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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: perverted super otaku! on April 09, 2017, 06:01:38 AM
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I know there is already a woodshop thread, but this seems like it could be helpful. I'll try to keep it updated, so feel free to contribute or correct, plus I cant remember any from pennswood or SC... I know scum.co is in there somewhere?
edit: I'll put an asterisk* beside companies using 2 or more
P.S. Stix:
FA/Hockey*
Welcome
917
Habitat*
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine*
Lifeblood
Plan B
Element
Pizza
Snack
Foundation(pro models)
Meow
Numbers
Vagrant
BBS(bareback/generator):
DLX Brands
Baker
Alien Workshop
Polar
Magenta
Primitive
Alltimers
Habitat*
FA/Hockey*
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Black Label
Birdhouse
Theories
Toy Machine*
Sk8Mafia
DGK
$lave
The Killing Floor
Hook-Ups/JK Industries
Traffic
Pass-Port
Frog
Scram
Dwindle(DSM):
Enjoi
Santa Cruz
Almost
Darkstar
Blind
Palace
Creature
5Boro
Flip?
Evisen*(EU/Asia)
Skateboard Cafe(rumored to be moving to HLC)
Control:
Studio
Pennswood:
American Nomad
Scum Co.
Coda
Lovenskate
TERROR OF PLANET X
South Central:
Bacon
Dieta
Fixer
Vacation
Politic
Northern Co.
Evisen*(North America)
Chapman:
Zoo York
Hopps
Quincy:
Lurkville
Jart(HLC):
Sk8Mafia(Europe)
Jart
Cruzade
Sour
Habitat(Europe)
Flip(Europe)
The National Skateboard Co.
SOVRN(Europe)
Watson:
Stereo(re-issue)
Blockhead
Assault
Prime:
Fixer
Dead-End
Stereo
Clutch:
Lewis Cruise
Brujaria
Program
Dailan Huahong(China):
Chocolate
Girl
Toy Machine*(NA: price-point, EU: Pro Boards etc.)
Foundation?
Alien Workshop* (Euro/price point boards?)
Plan B* (Euro/price point boards?)
Element* (Euro/price point boards?)
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
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cheers man! updated ;)
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
Would lurkville be sc ?
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PS: primitive
BBS : Alltimers
Habitat: BBS and PS ?
Dwindle: Palace
Chapman: Hopps
There's tons more ie when in doubt it's BBS
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I thought Primitive was BBS/Gen
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I thought Primitive was BBS/Gen
It is afaik... unless they switched over?
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BBS:
Some of the FA/Hockey get made there when Ps stix can't make em (AVE Terminator deck, AA first pro deck on Hockey)
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Numbers
P.S Stix:
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine
Dwindle:
Creature
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BBS:
Some of the FA/Hockey get made there when Ps stix can't make em (AVE Terminator deck, AA first pro deck on Hockey)
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Numbers
P.S Stix:
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine
Dwindle:
Creature
Not the one I just stopped riding.
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pennswood:
scumco
terror from planet x
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Lifeblood is PS stix unlike the other Unheard brands.
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BBS:
Some of the FA/Hockey get made there when Ps stix can't make em (AVE Terminator deck, AA first pro deck on Hockey)
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Numbers
P.S Stix:
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine
Dwindle:
Creature
My AVE Terminator was PSstix
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Zero is dwindle
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Lifeblood is PS stix unlike the other Unheard brands.
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
Chapman doesn't do Theories. I believe Generator does Theories.
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
Would lurkville be sc ?
Lurkville is done by Quincy Woodwrights.
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Literally every single FA and Hockey deck that has come into my shop since I have had an account for the last 2 years has been PS Stix.
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Literally every single FA and Hockey deck that has come into my shop since I have had an account for the last 2 years has been PS Stix.
andrew allen drunk driver is generator.
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Lifeblood is PS stix unlike the other Unheard brands.
dieta should still be south central.
as is vacation and politic.
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Is Lib Tech the only brand left that makes their own boards?
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Anybody know what Fancy Lad uses? I really liked the last board I rode
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Anybody know what Fancy Lad uses? I really liked the last board I rode
chapman
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Is Lib Tech the only brand left that makes their own boards?
Powell.....
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Gen/Bbs
Black Label
Birdhouse
Watson
Assault and a lot of shaped decks for companies like Dogtown etc...
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anyone who thinks santa cruz and creature is dwindle must be crazy, i know they are not dwindle.
dwindle laser labels all theyre decks on the top ply and i know sc and creature dont have it and i could swear that sc and creature is done by ps stix, i feel most nhs stuff has some relation/deal with paul shmitt
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i feel most nhs stuff has some relation/deal with paul shmitt
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/a8XivWE78nwvm/200_s.gif)
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Is Lib Tech the only brand left that makes their own boards?
http://fickleskateboards.com (http://fickleskateboards.com)
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anyone who thinks santa cruz and creature is dwindle must be crazy, i know they are not dwindle.
dwindle laser labels all theyre decks on the top ply and i know sc and creature dont have it and i could swear that sc and creature is done by ps stix, i feel most nhs stuff has some relation/deal with paul shmitt
Many people on here have said they are dwindle, they do not etch the decks because it is a "secret". Do you have any other reasons for your claims?
I'm just going with consensus here pretty much, and no has ever said stix, but many people have asid dwindle, don't they say made in china on them also? ps are mexico.
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anyone who thinks santa cruz and creature is dwindle must be crazy, i know they are not dwindle.
dwindle laser labels all theyre decks on the top ply and i know sc and creature dont have it and i could swear that sc and creature is done by ps stix, i feel most nhs stuff has some relation/deal with paul shmitt
I'm just going with consensus here pretty much, and no has ever said stix, but many people have asid dwindle, don't they say made in china on them also? ps are mexico.
NHS decks are definitely not PS Stix. I've had a Flip and a Creature recently and they did not feel or look like PS Stix and the Flip had a Made in China sticker. Maybe not Dwindle but some other factory in China.
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anyone who thinks santa cruz and creature is dwindle must be crazy, i know they are not dwindle.
dwindle laser labels all theyre decks on the top ply and i know sc and creature dont have it and i could swear that sc and creature is done by ps stix, i feel most nhs stuff has some relation/deal with paul shmitt
I'm just going with consensus here pretty much, and no has ever said stix, but many people have asid dwindle, don't they say made in china on them also? ps are mexico.
Doesn't NHS(santa cruz) have their own woodshop?
Maybe they do double duty. NHS decks have gotten cheaper.
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
Chapman doesn't do Theories. I believe Generator does Theories.
Correct.
Sk8mafia is Generator/Jart?
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
Would lurkville be sc ?
Lurkville is Quincy Wood rights out of michigan.
Add Northern Co to South Central.
Nhs uses dsm.
Also A woodshop called Clutch Distribution that will fool some people into thinking it's bbs/generator
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BBS:
Some of the FA/Hockey get made there when Ps stix can't make em (AVE Terminator deck, AA first pro deck on Hockey)
Deathwish
Heroin
Isle
Numbers
P.S Stix:
Quasi
Wknd
Toy Machine
Dwindle:
Creature
Same. Both AVE terminators I have are PS
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Is Watson still going? I know they made toy and fancy lad boards at one point?
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They do the stereo re-issue stuff and blockhead.....
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And Assault.
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FA not using PS has nothing to do with "when they can't do it." I've
Talked to Paul Schmitt and it's due to price or politics -- or how the FA folks are feeling that day. The wood biz is all politics and pennies--with the manufacturers making their coin on quantity.
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Pennswood:
Coda
Lovenskate
Scum Co
TERROR OF PLANET X
South Central:
Snack
It would be nice if you edit the first post, so that the information can be easily found.
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Pennswood:
Coda
Lovenskate
Scum Co
TERROR OF PLANET X
South Central:
Snack
It would be nice if you edit the first post, so that the information can be easily found.
Ive been doing that all along.... ;)
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For European distro HLC make Jart, Sk8mafia and Cruzade. Used to do Habitat but not sure if they still do or nit.
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For European distro HLC make Jart, Sk8mafia and Cruzade. Used to do Habitat but not sure if they still do or nit.
Is HLC the Jart factory?
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Pennswood:
Blast Skates
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Thought coda was chapman, not pennswood
Don't really understand why we needed a second thread, This one is playing out just like the first one. Could have just posted your list in there..
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sc does bacon and those other unheardpdx brands. don't forget chapman which does theories i believe. pennswood also does american nomad
Would lurkville be sc ?
Add Northern Co to South Central.
Nhs uses dsm.
Also A woodshop called Clutch Distribution that will fool some people into thinking it's bbs/generator
thats crazy, my bad to everyone correcting me on sc/creature but ive had a sc and tried my friends creature board and it didnt feel like a dwindle deck, maybe maybe the wood i didnt but should of noticed but man this is wiggin me out. i gotta hit the shop and kook out inspecting the latest sc or creature decks now
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For European distro HLC make Jart, Sk8mafia and Cruzade. Used to do Habitat but not sure if they still do or nit.
Yeah, do some shop boards too but I have heard they are really difficult to deal with so we always keep it in the UK for our boards.
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sc in wood shop talk is, by default, south central. Not santa cruz.
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sc in wood shop talk is, by default, south central. Not santa cruz.
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Thought coda was chapman, not pennswood
Don't really understand why we needed a second thread, This one is playing out just like the first one. Could have just posted your list in there..
Figured it would be good to have an easy to find up to date list, that isnt buried in a massive old thread? the other thread is more speculation/critique now
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Evisen?
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Evisen is supposed to be DSM(diwndle?)
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Plan B - PS Stix
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Also, Prime does all the heritage stuff Dune works on(blue,world ind licensed,j lee bowie decks)
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Fixer is Prime wood I believe... in case someone didn't already catch that. Ask Ultimate Phil.
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anyone who thinks santa cruz and creature is dwindle must be crazy, i know they are not dwindle.
dwindle laser labels all theyre decks on the top ply and i know sc and creature dont have it and i could swear that sc and creature is done by ps stix, i feel most nhs stuff has some relation/deal with paul shmitt
Companies can choose to not get the laser labeling at dsm. The latest PAlace decks I've seen do not have the laser engravement but most of em had the dsm premium woodshop sticker either on the front or side of the deck.
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Is girl & chocolate still a mystery?
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Is girl & chocolate still a mystery?
If you call them up a worker will tell you that they aren't allowed to reveal that information.
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Is girl & chocolate still a mystery?
Word has it they use somewhere called "Excel" I googled it and this came up, seems likely
http://www.skateboard-factory-china.com/ (http://www.skateboard-factory-china.com/)
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Sorry to bump thread but I'd like some woodshop info on the "mountain" graphic Northern Co did a season back. The shape I had was an 8.5 popsicle with a 15 inch wheelbase, ti-dye woodstain and red top ply. I'm pretty sure Pennswood pressed it but would like to see what y'all think. I emailed the dude from Northern and he said they've switched woodshops and won't be doing that shape anymore. But he didn't say which woodshop pressed it to begin with. Anyone know if Pennswood does the same shape for any other brands? An 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase on domestic wood is like a holy grail for me.
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Thanks Clamy. This has surely been discussed before but does Pennswood have a minimum order amount? Would they sell me a stack of blanks in that shape? Not trying to be the next Mike Kirk just can't find any other brands that use that shape. Thanks for any info
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Is creature really dwindle?? I was thinking my next deck might be a creature but I'm not down with dwindle wood. That's a real disappointment if true.
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Is creature really dwindle?? I was thinking my next deck might be a creature but I'm not down with dwindle wood. That's a real disappointment if true.
No it's Navs making decks in his garage ofcourse it's Dwindle ffs
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Thanks Clamy. This has surely been discussed before but does Pennswood have a minimum order amount? Would they sell me a stack of blanks in that shape? Not trying to be the next Mike Kirk just can't find any other brands that use that shape. Thanks for any info
50 decks...I think all the wood shops ask for company name and tax ID. You could start your own company.
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Is creature really dwindle?? I was thinking my next deck might be a creature but I'm not down with dwindle wood. That's a real disappointment if true.
They're still under NHS.
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Any idea on Blvd?
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Is creature really dwindle?? I was thinking my next deck might be a creature but I'm not down with dwindle wood. That's a real disappointment if true.
Easy there, tiger
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Thanks again for the info clamy and pigeon. Looks like I'm out of luck but it's not the end of the world.
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Sorry to bump thread but I'd like some woodshop info on the "mountain" graphic Northern Co did a season back. The shape I had was an 8.5 popsicle with a 15 inch wheelbase, ti-dye woodstain and red top ply. I'm pretty sure Pennswood pressed it but would like to see what y'all think. I emailed the dude from Northern and he said they've switched woodshops and won't be doing that shape anymore. But he didn't say which woodshop pressed it to begin with. Anyone know if Pennswood does the same shape for any other brands? An 8.5 with a 15" wheelbase on domestic wood is like a holy grail for me.
a Snack 8.5 is right up your alley then, I had an 8.6 shape and it was one of the best boards ever. lasted a long ass time.
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I emailed snack forever ago asking about their WB measurements and they never replied :(
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Any idea on Blvd?
Based on basically nothing I want to say generator?
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Based on basically nothing I want to say generator?
I haven't had a blvd, but syndrome was using woodchuck.
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a Snack 8.5 is right up your alley then, I had an 8.6 shape and it was one of the best boards ever. lasted a long ass time.
Will definitely check out Snack if I ever make it to a shop that stocks them.
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I emailed snack forever ago asking about their WB measurements and they never replied :(
8.5 and 8.6 were both 14.5 when i contacted them last year
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Anyone know what kind of wood slave uses?
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Anyone know what kind of wood slave uses?
Generator/bareback.....slave fucking rules!!!
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Is creature really dwindle?? I was thinking my next deck might be a creature but I'm not down with dwindle wood. That's a real disappointment if true.
Nah NHS owns their own woodshop which they moved to china in the mid 2000's and it's been there ever since.
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Is creature really dwindle?? I was thinking my next deck might be a creature but I'm not down with dwindle wood. That's a real disappointment if true.
Nah NHS owns their own woodshop which they moved to china in the mid 2000's and it's been there ever since.
Interesting, Pals that work in skate shops etc. who I know are authorities on this matter have said all NHS is DSM. How current is your info?/how do you know? Willing to change any listing if better or more complete info comes about
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question
if NHS is using DSM, are they using all DSM construction? So like are all NHS boards R7?
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It's funny w. Crail stuff....if they were DSM I'd actually feel better about them....
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It's funny w. Crail stuff....if they were DSM I'd actually feel better about them....
I probably would too. it's about picking the lesser of two evils here...and Dwindle is it
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It's funny w. Crail stuff....if they were DSM I'd actually feel better about them....
I probably would too. it's about picking the lesser of two evils here...and Dwindle is it
Crailtap boards have too much of a durability issue, they kinda feel like PS stix (Light and poppy) but for a week at most.
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Someone got insights on where 5boro decks are pressed? Currently skating the vhs2 series and besides the unusual long tail this board is still crispy after almost 20 sessions and holds up really well.
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Someone got insights on where 5boro decks are pressed? Currently skating the vhs2 series and besides the unusual long tail this board is still crispy after almost 20 sessions and holds up really well.
DSM
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In this ever changing landscape of wood shops and skate brands, I believe this is the most up to date list at the moment. You still left out Zero on DSM, are we still considering them a brand?
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Someone got insights on where 5boro decks are pressed? Currently skating the vhs2 series and besides the unusual long tail this board is still crispy after almost 20 sessions and holds up really well.
Thanks pso!
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How do you check to see if a board is dead before buying? Is it the tone of the wood after knocking on it or what?
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In this ever changing landscape of wood shops and skate brands, I believe this is the most up to date list at the moment. You still left out Zero on DSM, are we still considering them a brand?
I was wondering about them actually and didn't know who they were made by, Jamie said in an interview he is having the new boards made by someone else since they left dwindle distribution? was it BBS? I cant remember, but do remember him saying they wont be dwindle
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Someone got insights on where 5boro decks are pressed? Currently skating the vhs2 series and besides the unusual long tail this board is still crispy after almost 20 sessions and holds up really well.
Thanks pso!
If I remember correctly some of those VHS series boards were pressed by south central though. Maybe the one you have is SC pressed? Who's board was it? I know the Trahan one was SC. This workshop/brand thing is the most confusing shit ever.
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anyone know where ripndip decks are made? they're usa made.
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It's funny w. Crail stuff....if they were DSM I'd actually feel better about them....
I probably would too. it's about picking the lesser of two evils here...and Dwindle is it
For me, the Crail boards are like a lottery. Last two I have had, including the one I am riding, were really crisp.
The one prior to that though was shit the moment I stood on it and nothing worked at all. So if you are into not knowing at all if a board is going to work, and consider yourself a bit of a gambler, Crail are the boards for you.
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When all you know is 'China' then you can't expect much....I think that's often the problem is quality control and consistency is bad..... DSM though I don't believe that to be totally true....
If I have an option I'd buy PS, BBS, or USA...but I don't think the DSM stuff is that bad....truth..id never buy a cliche board namely cause of the graphics....
Zero I think is going made in USA....not sure where....
Hey any one know anything about Trump and putting duties on imported wood? Is it going to change the game or nah.....
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Someone got insights on where 5boro decks are pressed? Currently skating the vhs2 series and besides the unusual long tail this board is still crispy after almost 20 sessions and holds up really well.
Thanks pso!
If I remember correctly some of those VHS series boards were pressed by south central though. Maybe the one you have is SC pressed? Who's board was it? I know the Trahan one was SC. This workshop/brand thing is the most confusing shit ever.
Interesting. I got the silvester eduardo board
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I agree it's confusing they've done a couple different things
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Anybody have a clue what woodshop the new Palace decks are? They aren't DSM.
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Anybody have a clue what woodshop the new Palace decks are? They aren't DSM.
They apparently stopped laser etching them as dwindle boards, but they are supposedly still DSM, if they say made in China id say there is like a 99% chance they are still DSM, because I think literally every legit brand made in China except girl is DSM
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I don't totally believe that....I think there is a bunch of price point stuff that is China not DSM. I think crail is the same factories.....
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I don't totally believe that....I think there is a bunch of price point stuff that is China not DSM. I think crail is the same factories.....
Do you mean price-points from legit company's? or price point off brands? I've seen lots of random cheapies made in China like Think when it was around and their equivalents were Chinese mystery wood.
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When all you know is 'China' then you can't expect much....I think that's often the problem is quality control and consistency is bad..... DSM though I don't believe that to be totally true....
If I have an option I'd buy PS, BBS, or USA...but I don't think the DSM stuff is that bad....truth..id never buy a cliche board namely cause of the graphics....
Zero I think is going made in USA....not sure where....
Hey any one know anything about Trump and putting duties on imported wood? Is it going to change the game or nah.....
More like because they don't exist.
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any word on where consolidated gets their boards pressed?
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I don't totally believe that....I think there is a bunch of price point stuff that is China not DSM. I think crail is the same factories.....
there's a lot of them on Alibaba. There is a factory that listed girl and chocolate as the first 2 brands in their company profile, along with some Tumyeto brands, Plan B and Element. (this same factory also makes baseball bats for adidas)
They quoted me 9$ per printed board... I may start a brand guys
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Thanks for updating this. Who does The Killing Floor? Sorry if mentioned, I did a ctrl + F search on each page.
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Thanks for updating this. Who does The Killing Floor? Sorry if mentioned, I did a ctrl + F search on each page.
Killing floor is Bareback/generator or what ever the hell it is.
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I don't totally believe that....I think there is a bunch of price point stuff that is China not DSM. I think crail is the same factories.....
there's a lot of them on Alibaba. There is a factory that listed girl and chocolate as the first 2 brands in their company profile, along with some Tumyeto brands, Plan B and Element. (this same factory also makes baseball bats for adidas)
They quoted me 9$ per printed board... I may start a brand guys
This is what I was talking about.....I always thought it was the same as a toy machine pp deck....
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(https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB11q4qQVXXXXasXVXXq6xXFXXX9/200432476/HTB11q4qQVXXXXasXVXXq6xXFXXX9.jpg)
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/HBD-S-Canadian-Maple-Blank-Skateboard_292991293.html?spm=a2700.8443308.0.0.NMAUyt (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/HBD-S-Canadian-Maple-Blank-Skateboard_292991293.html?spm=a2700.8443308.0.0.NMAUyt)
I'd go through with it if I weren't leaving the country next month... I had 2 chocolate boards last year, and I liked them.
$90 for 10 decks plus $130
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hmm well that confuses things slightly but I guess Crail uses that company for all their boards and Tum Yeto uses it for price points
So I guess the Crail mystery shop is Dalian Huahong Sports Tool Co., Ltd.? confirmed?
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I live in Finland and all the Toy Machine boards I've had have been made in China. I think it was in the previous woodshop thread also that they use a different manufacturer for the European market.
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I live in Finland and all the Toy Machine boards I've had have been made in China. I think it was in the previous woodshop thread also that they use a different manufacturer for the European market.
Oh true I remember people complaining about that a couple times, maybe they are all from Dailan Huahong
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I live in Finland and all the Toy Machine boards I've had have been made in China. I think it was in the previous woodshop thread also that they use a different manufacturer for the European market.
Could be. I had three 8.25" ones and they all had very different shapes. 14.25" wheelbase on two of them. Other one with a short ass tail and the other one with a huge tail and a nose. The third one had a 14" wheelbase and was just way too short and tiny. I got tired of the gamble with Toy Machine boards and the fact that they sell us different shit than they do over in the US, so I can't trust any of the measurements I google either. Also Toy Machine graphics have gone downhill steep, so I won't buy any in the foreseeable future as there are load of better choices out there.
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any company out there make a popsicle in a 8.6-8.75 with a 15 inch wheelbase and 33 length?
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hmm well that confuses things slightly but I guess Crail uses that company for all their boards and Tum Yeto uses it for price points
So I guess the Crail mystery shop is Dalian Huahong Sports Tool Co., Ltd.? confirmed?
Toy machine at least... if not all TumYeto
(https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1XBQBQFXXXXaYapXXq6xXFXXXZ/200432476/HTB1XBQBQFXXXXaYapXXq6xXFXXXZ.jpg)
(http://shop.tumyeto.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/m/tm_lastsupper_h.jpg)
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Does anyone know how the wood quality / shape of new AWS decks compare to those from the mid-2000's? Haven't purchased one since then but I'm considering giving one a try.
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any company out there make a popsicle in a 8.6-8.75 with a 15 inch wheelbase and 33 length?
http://minilogoskateboards.com/products/ (http://minilogoskateboards.com/products/) so, I assume other skateone brands as well.
181 K15 8.5" 33.5" 15"
250 K21 8.75" 33" 15"
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the new alien decks are generator
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Does anyone know how the wood quality / shape of new AWS decks compare to those from the mid-2000's? Haven't purchased one since then but I'm considering giving one a try.
my friend had an 8.5 that felt roomy, big nose and tail. not the tapered, pointy decks from 15 years ago at all
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any company out there make a popsicle in a 8.6-8.75 with a 15 inch wheelbase and 33 length?
http://minilogoskateboards.com/products/ (http://minilogoskateboards.com/products/) so, I assume other skateone brands as well.
181 K15 8.5" 33.5" 15"
250 K21 8.75" 33" 15"
It's a 9", but the new Toy Machine Sketchy Monster deck is 9x 32.8, 15" Wb
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any company out there make a popsicle in a 8.6-8.75 with a 15 inch wheelbase and 33 length?
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Quasi_QXS_Three_Red_Deck/descpage-QUQXS3RDK.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Quasi_QXS_Three_Red_Deck/descpage-QUQXS3RDK.html) isn't a 15in wheelbase though. 14.75
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any company out there make a popsicle in a 8.6-8.75 with a 15 inch wheelbase and 33 length?
yo CINCI!
i think SLAVE has some options....friend of mine skates a 8.5 slave board that seems to be 33 length. i think they have some 8.6 popsicles with a 33 legth too!
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Skate Mental?
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Skate Mental?
not sure but werent they Crail wood at one point? and that seems to be Dailan Huahong?
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not sure but werent they Crail wood at one point? and that seems to be Dailan Huahong?
Thanks - I would prefer my boards don't travel around the world twice before i get it, but I always come back to DSM boards. Was thinking of trying skate mental but not sure now.
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Anyone know how to check a PS Stix serial number and find out the shape/size? I ordered a Toy Machine 8.5 Ed Templeton deck from Tactics, and when it arrived it was actually a Leo Romero graphic, but the factory barcode sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap still had it labeled as a 8.5 x 32.25 Ed T.
I've ridden a bunch of the Toy Machine 8.5 x 32.25s, and this shape was def not one of them. This one had a super full, square nose, and I really enjoyed skating it. Would like to reliably find another (local shop rarely ever carries TM unfortunately).
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Anyone know how to check a PS Stix serial number and find out the shape/size? I ordered a Toy Machine 8.5 Ed Templeton deck from Tactics, and when it arrived it was actually a Leo Romero graphic, but the factory barcode sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap still had it labeled as a 8.5 x 32.25 Ed T.
I've ridden a bunch of the Toy Machine 8.5 x 32.25s, and this shape was def not one of them. This one had a super full, square nose, and I really enjoyed skating it. Would like to reliably find another (local shop rarely ever carries TM unfortunately).
I had an instagram discussion with Paul Schmitt and gave him a serial number. He was able to tell me the dimensions, when it was pressed and what company it was for. Super crazy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBPZkcwUEc/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBPZkcwUEc/)
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not sure but werent they Crail wood at one point? and that seems to be Dailan Huahong?
Thanks - I would prefer my boards don't travel around the world twice before i get it, but I always come back to DSM boards. Was thinking of trying skate mental but not sure now.
skate mental hasn't been crailtap for a few years now
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Anyone know how to check a PS Stix serial number and find out the shape/size? I ordered a Toy Machine 8.5 Ed Templeton deck from Tactics, and when it arrived it was actually a Leo Romero graphic, but the factory barcode sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap still had it labeled as a 8.5 x 32.25 Ed T.
I've ridden a bunch of the Toy Machine 8.5 x 32.25s, and this shape was def not one of them. This one had a super full, square nose, and I really enjoyed skating it. Would like to reliably find another (local shop rarely ever carries TM unfortunately).
Don't know how many you bought but since Toy changed woodshops from Generator to PS...they are more blunted than before for sure....
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It's funny w. Crail stuff....if they were DSM I'd actually feel better about them....
I probably would too. it's about picking the lesser of two evils here...and Dwindle is it
For me, the Crail boards are like a lottery. Last two I have had, including the one I am riding, were really crisp.
The one prior to that though was shit the moment I stood on it and nothing worked at all. So if you are into not knowing at all if a board is going to work, and consider yourself a bit of a gambler, Crail are the boards for you.
I reckon you can pick 'em just by looking at the concave, and by buying a recently released graphic. If the concave and shape looks proper, like it would the best, truest one out of the batch of 5 (or maybe more). Also learnt not to order them online. I'm convinced they send the shittier ones to big online stores.
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Anyone know how to check a PS Stix serial number and find out the shape/size? I ordered a Toy Machine 8.5 Ed Templeton deck from Tactics, and when it arrived it was actually a Leo Romero graphic, but the factory barcode sticker on the outside of the shrinkwrap still had it labeled as a 8.5 x 32.25 Ed T.
I've ridden a bunch of the Toy Machine 8.5 x 32.25s, and this shape was def not one of them. This one had a super full, square nose, and I really enjoyed skating it. Would like to reliably find another (local shop rarely ever carries TM unfortunately).
I had an instagram discussion with Paul Schmitt and gave him a serial number. He was able to tell me the dimensions, when it was pressed and what company it was for. Super crazy.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBPZkcwUEc/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBPZkcwUEc/)
Yeah, my first move was actually to send him a DM, but after he didn't respond for a few days, I turned to Slap...
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not sure but werent they Crail wood at one point? and that seems to be Dailan Huahong?
Thanks - I would prefer my boards don't travel around the world twice before i get it, but I always come back to DSM boards. Was thinking of trying skate mental but not sure now.
Any idea who they are using now?
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yo it would be kinda sick if you could access the serial number databases, you could look up your board's serial #and find out all the details, including shape, making it easier to find the exact shape you want all the time by having search criteria based off the shape and manufacture date to find the newest ones
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Not sure what this could help us find out about where skate mental wood is coming from, but they are distributing through Grizzly now???
from Skate mental insta
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWd1omJlPvI/?taken-by=skatemental&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BWd1omJlPvI/?taken-by=skatemental&hl=en)
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Any one know where the DOG boards are pressed?
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Not sure what this could help us find out about where skate mental wood is coming from, but they are distributing through Grizzly now???
from Skate mental insta
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWd1omJlPvI/?taken-by=skatemental&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BWd1omJlPvI/?taken-by=skatemental&hl=en)
I know they did a recent collaboration with grizzly and skatemental - and as a part of the release they did a run of a few boards. so according to this post seems like its a new partnership.
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Any one know where the DOG boards are pressed?
Clutch, like a less durable and poppy BBS, not the greatest but definitely enjoyably skate-able for a month or so
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
shit.. how did i miss them, I think they are BBS but not 100% sure
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
they are bbs/generator.
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Local board company uses Quincy? Are they any good? I don't feel like spending 50$ on some shit quality wood if it sucks.
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A shop here uses them for their boards. I liked mine, it felt a lot like BBS to me. They're pretty durable, but I do know a guy who got a warped board, so be careful I guess.
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I use Quincy for my little board company. Hands down, the strongest boards I've seen, straight up.
Good: strong, snappy, durable, USA made.
Bad: limited shapes, but thats really about it.
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Alright, I'm going to take your guys word on this and buy one of their boards then.
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I don't know why they don't mark on boards US made. ...
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
they are bbs/generator.
I don't know about the boards you get in america, but they started out at bbs/generator but switched to HLC since they're both based in spain after the first or second delivery.
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
they are bbs/generator.
Are there any Sours getting sold in North America?
I've never seen one for sale here afaik, so maybe they have switched to HLC entirely
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
they are bbs/generator.
I've never seen one for sale here afaik, so maybe they have switched to HLC entirely
Sour can be acquired in America. Saw them in person at Cowtown, I think Seasons may have had them as well.
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Does anyone know where the Sour boards are pressed? I want to support them but on the other hand, I'm in love with BBS/Generator decks...
they are bbs/generator.
I've never seen one for sale here afaik, so maybe they have switched to HLC entirely
Sour can be acquired in America. Saw them in person at Cowtown, I think Seasons may have had them as well.
Tactics has some Sour as well.
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anyone know who produces the friend ship?
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anyone know who produces the friend ship?
I think its BBS
Edit: Sidenote on this, is JT Aultz working as a board maker now?
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not sure but werent they Crail wood at one point? and that seems to be Dailan Huahong?
Thanks - I would prefer my boards don't travel around the world twice before i get it, but I always come back to DSM boards. Was thinking of trying skate mental but not sure now.
Any idea who they are using now?
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Tum Yeto - Foundation and TM specifically, are the shapes the same? pointy (like regular reals) or more on the full side? Finally found some short decks with long WBs and want to give them as shot.
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FA not using PS has nothing to do with "when they can't do it." I've
Talked to Paul Schmitt and it's due to price or politics -- or how the FA folks are feeling that day. The wood biz is all politics and pennies--with the manufacturers making their coin on quantity.
I think a lot of people don't realize how often board companies switch between wood shops. Also, I don't think people realize just how different two boards from the same wood shop can be, even boards from the same run. That's why I don't buy boards online anymore, because I've made the mistake of buying duplicate boards thinking they'd be the same when you can tell the decks came from opposite ends of the board pile.
As far as brands by woodshop are concerned, Fancy Lad & Supreme get their boards from Chapman.
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FA not using PS has nothing to do with "when they can't do it." I've
Talked to Paul Schmitt and it's due to price or politics -- or how the FA folks are feeling that day. The wood biz is all politics and pennies--with the manufacturers making their coin on quantity.
I think a lot of people don't realize how often board companies switch between wood shops. Also, I don't think people realize just how different two boards from the same wood shop can be, even boards from the same run.
The major of distributors of which there is like 4(crail, dlx, dwindle and baker boys", all use one woodshop exclusively so the majority of companies never change woodshops, most other major companies only use one shop exclusively... what your saying here isnt really true, I listed the ones that switch between two and it's only AWS, Habitat and FA, Hockey and some Tum Yeto
Dwindle presses one board at a time, so their boards are the most consistently shaped, most press 4-5 at once and that creates 5 different concaves from one press
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BBS I think.....
I haven't had a Hookups board in a while. but these do have the made in mexico skate within your abilities sticker. That's bbs right?
JK boards are probably the same. They both use have a similar pointier shape
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FA not using PS has nothing to do with "when they can't do it." I've
Talked to Paul Schmitt and it's due to price or politics -- or how the FA folks are feeling that day. The wood biz is all politics and pennies--with the manufacturers making their coin on quantity.
I think a lot of people don't realize how often board companies switch between wood shops. Also, I don't think people realize just how different two boards from the same wood shop can be, even boards from the same run.
Dwindle presses one board at a time, so their boards are the most consistently shaped, most press 4-5 at once and that creates 5 different concaves from one press
What I'm saying is true, and once your list becomes more complete & updated you'll see it for yourself.
The bigger the company, the more likely they are to stick with one woodshop. Their orders are usually far too large to switch wood shops at the drop of a hat & require more planning so the shops can facilitate their order quantity. However, the amount of smaller board companies far outnumber the established big brands at this point, and those companies shop around like crazy. And I'm not talking making your pro boards at one woodshop & having your price point decks made at another/ different shops based on geographical location like the ones you've listed, I'm talking having your major full price runs divided between different wood shops for the same region.
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Yeah, well dude that info isn't relevant to most people, there might be more small brands than large ones but go into any shop and 80-100% of the boards will be from the big 4 distros(Baker Boys, Crail, Dlx and Dwindle), all of whom use one woodshop exclusively. My idea wasn't include literally every brand from a dude who wanted to turn himself pro by making his own company or whatever, it's a list of widely available boards from legit(my opinion) brands, pretty much everyone on the set-up thread/ SLAP rides a board from the list.
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not sure but werent they Crail wood at one point? and that seems to be Dailan Huahong?
Thanks - I would prefer my boards don't travel around the world twice before i get it, but I always come back to DSM boards. Was thinking of trying skate mental but not sure now.
Any idea who they are using now?
Yeah anyone got ideas? Supposedly this Ben Degros guy on YouTube said they're made by bbs/gen but from my experience they look like they're still whatever crailtap does cause the shape and dimensions are exactly the same as most girl boards I.e. 8x31.625 with 14wb rounded nose and tail and the contour on the kicks aren't deep and sloped like bbs/gen decks
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Whoah....you lurk Teds brothers YouTube channel too?
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did we get to the bottom of evisen's woodshop? new series is the bomb!
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Yeah, well dude that info isn't relevant to most people, there might be more small brands than large ones but go into any shop and 80-100% of the boards will be from the big 4 distros(Baker Boys, Crail, Dlx and Dwindle), all of whom use one woodshop exclusively. My idea wasn't include literally every brand from a dude who wanted to turn himself pro by making his own company or whatever, it's a list of widely available boards from legit(my opinion) brands, pretty much everyone on the set-up thread/ SLAP rides a board from the list.
Yeah I'm not talking about some Bullshit brands, I'm talking about board companies Slap actually fucks with. Why would you think I was mentioning hole in the wall shop board program brands? Do you think Northern Co is a bullshit company that was made so Steve Fletch could turn himself pro?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BODpUS-AOdW/?hl=en&taken-by=pennswood (https://www.instagram.com/p/BODpUS-AOdW/?hl=en&taken-by=pennswood)
Like I said, the more your list grows the more you might learn something. But if you're not gonna make a comprehensive list then why make another one to begin with? If you only care about big brands that never change wood shops, we could have just referred to Lance's old posts. It doesn't seem like you're updating the list anyway, and if you're being persnickety about these brands not being "legit" then maybe this wasn't the thread for you to start.
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I don't even know what this argument is about but just jumping in to say that brands like Snack, Northern Co, Scumco etc. definitely don't fall under the "dude who wanted to turn himself pro by making his own company or whatever" category and the fact that most boards on a typical skateshop wall come from one of the big distributors is a good argument for trying to support smaller brands.
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I don't even know what this argument is about but just jumping in to say that brands like Snack, Northern Co, Scumco etc. definitely don't fall under the "dude who wanted to turn himself pro by making his own company or whatever" category and the fact that most boards on a typical skateshop wall come from one of the big distributors is a good argument for trying to support smaller brands.
My sentiment exactly. I get that everyone wants to argue about the board market being over saturated and the bigger companies having to downsize as a result, but I'd rather see the market share spread around to those who are bringing something new to the table. When companies become too big for too long, they end up in a state of complacency and end up like present day Girl...
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Whoah....you lurk Teds brothers YouTube channel too?
Ahaha yeah he's legit, knows how to skate and use the product thoroughly and review it, I was trying to find what he was talking about when he mentioned this thread but I don't see skate mental under bbs/gen
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did we get to the bottom of evisen's woodshop? new series is the bomb!
Apparently dwindle
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haha yeah, nothing definitive I guess, but someone or a couple people said dwindle in this thread and/or others
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Looks like Foundation is back at PSstix (at least the current pro models are)
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Looks like Foundation is back at PSstix (at least the current pro models are)
yoo cheers for the update!
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Habitat and Flip are made on HLC for Europe, also The National skate Co is manufactured on HLC
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Any of the EuroPals have ridden a Sour board recently? How are they, what are the dimensions (e.g. Lenght, Wb for a 8.25)? I will check them in person in the local shop but thought that some input wouldn't hurt beforehand.
Thanks for keeping the thread up to date PSO!
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Any of the EuroPals have ridden a Sour board recently? How are they, what are the dimensions (e.g. Lenght, Wb for a 8.25)? I will check them in person in the local shop but thought that some input wouldn't hurt beforehand.
Thanks for keeping the thread up to date PSO!
I went to the Sour HQ/shop last month, they didn't have any board of my size because they were waiting the new drop that was just released this week. They have their own shapes and the new Jart construction is really good. Should be a good deck.
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Cheers guys! cool to see the Euro pals getting proper boards from the big some of the US companies finally
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Any of the EuroPals have ridden a Sour board recently? How are they, what are the dimensions (e.g. Lenght, Wb for a 8.25)? I will check them in person in the local shop but thought that some input wouldn't hurt beforehand.
Thanks for keeping the thread up to date PSO!
I went to the Sour HQ/shop last month, they didn't have any board of my size because they were waiting the new drop that was just released this week. They have their own shapes and the new Jart construction is really good. Should be a good deck.
Yeah, I saw that the new board series arrived in one of my locals, thats why I asked. Will check them and hopefully the shapes are any good (for my taste).
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Any of the EuroPals have ridden a Sour board recently? How are they, what are the dimensions (e.g. Lenght, Wb for a 8.25)? I will check them in person in the local shop but thought that some input wouldn't hurt beforehand.
Thanks for keeping the thread up to date PSO!
I went to the Sour HQ/shop last month, they didn't have any board of my size because they were waiting the new drop that was just released this week. They have their own shapes and the new Jart construction is really good. Should be a good deck.
Yeah, I saw that the new board series arrived in one of my locals, thats why I asked. Will check them and hopefully the shapes are any good (for my taste).
User: s.k.a.t.a.n is skating Sour board as seen in set-up thread, and he's in EU so I'd ask him for further questions.
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Any of the EuroPals have ridden a Sour board recently? How are they, what are the dimensions (e.g. Lenght, Wb for a 8.25)? I will check them in person in the local shop but thought that some input wouldn't hurt beforehand.
Thanks for keeping the thread up to date PSO!
I went to the Sour HQ/shop last month, they didn't have any board of my size because they were waiting the new drop that was just released this week. They have their own shapes and the new Jart construction is really good. Should be a good deck.
Yeah, I saw that the new board series arrived in one of my locals, thats why I asked. Will check them and hopefully the shapes are any good (for my taste).
Spot on, thanks man!
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BBS I think.....
Anyone that can confirm?
Does the guy from Colony still post here? Who were they pressed by again?
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Does anyone know who presses Doom Sayers Club and Transportation Unit?
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Does anyone know who presses Doom Sayers Club and Transportation Unit?
doomsayers should still be bareback.
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Does anyone know who presses Doom Sayers Club and Transportation Unit?
Transportation Unit is PS and Doomwood is BBS
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BBS I think.....
Does the guy from Colony still post here? Who were they pressed by again?
Re: jeremy klein has sent you a package
"I have a few left, they are now on the front page of my website. I use the same woodshop as baker, Deathwish, real, antihero. Glad you like the boards."
From Klein himself...
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Got a Krooked board with an " IV" stamped on it, is that generator/BBS?
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Got a Krooked board with an " IV" stamped on it, is that generator/BBS?
Yeah. the IV is where the deck was in the stack when it was pressed.
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BBS I think.....
Does the guy from Colony still post here? Who were they pressed by again?
"I have a few left, they are now on the front page of my website. I use the same woodshop as baker, Deathwish, real, antihero. Glad you like the boards."
From Klein himself...
nice one!
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What am I, chopped liver?
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What am I, chopped liver?
lol shit, I only asked because you said "I think....", I always value your input and opinion on gear and hold it in high regard
I used to really like pate as a kid so chopped liver isn't all bad anyway!
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Thanks!
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did we get to the bottom of evisen's woodshop? new series is the bomb!
http://permanentdist.com/about-us/ (http://permanentdist.com/about-us/) is saying south central and I can't find them on dwindle's page anymore...
maybe I'll hit them up on insta...
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maybe I'll hit them up on insta...
This is what happens when people try to make lists without researching each point on the list, as if things aren't subject to change...
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maybe I'll hit them up on insta...
ahh right on, cheers! also says on the Evisen page "Evisen skateboards are proudly manufactured in the USA by one of the most in-demand woodshops in the country, and for the first time ever – the brand is now available in the United States thru PERMANENT."
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did we get to the bottom of evisen's woodshop? new series is the bomb!
maybe I'll hit them up on insta...
This is what happens when people try to make lists without researching each point on the list, as if things aren't subject to change...
lol dude why even bother trying to troll?, I guarantee this is the most up-to date and accurate list anywhere and it was made with the help of everyone that contributes, I defy you to find me a better one or you could always make your own? if you don't like the idea of a list why even bother to click on the thread? It must be one of two reasons, to fail at trolling or because your own company isn't listed and you're butthurt about it
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We are the truth....signed....chop liver....
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We got some Scumco boards in the other day, I always ride em even though I hate pennswood. The ones that came in had made in Canada stickers, They also look and felt different from Penns. Anyone know if they switched and if so what woodshop they came out of because they look awesome.
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We got some Scumco boards in the other day, I always ride em even though I hate pennswood. The ones that came in had made in Canada stickers, They also look and felt different from Penns. Anyone know if they switched and if so what woodshop they came out of because they look awesome.
I'll guess Control, are they light, snappy and have squared off sides you can feel around the edges of the deck? compared to the more curved sanding on boards normally?
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We got some Scumco boards in the other day, I always ride em even though I hate pennswood. The ones that came in had made in Canada stickers, They also look and felt different from Penns. Anyone know if they switched and if so what woodshop they came out of because they look awesome.
control is the fucking worst wood shop.
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We got some Scumco boards in the other day, I always ride em even though I hate pennswood. The ones that came in had made in Canada stickers, They also look and felt different from Penns. Anyone know if they switched and if so what woodshop they came out of because they look awesome.
Not gonna say control is shitty...but I like pennswood.....yes...control has a more square bevel...and the ones I've seen are pretty mellow
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Does the guy from Colony still post here? Who were they pressed by again?
"I have a few left, they are now on the front page of my website. I use the same woodshop as baker, Deathwish, real, antihero. Glad you like the boards."
From Klein himself...
good lookin out
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https://www.thepalomino.com/collections/latest/products/evisen-usgrow-jewel-8-25 (https://www.thepalomino.com/collections/latest/products/evisen-usgrow-jewel-8-25)
And now we're hearing DSM again... I really wanted a board from this series, and to support these guys after their new vid blows minds, but I don't know if I can do dwindle wood
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Ohh looks like they are using SC for NA and DSM for EU and Asia, thanks man! And dwindle makes some of the best boards IMO most definitely skate-able, I'd say give it a try
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Anyone know who presses Skateboard Cafe?
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Anyone know who presses Skateboard Cafe?
Yeah
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Anyone know who presses Skateboard Cafe?
Pretty sure it was DSM/dwindle and have been told by my local skate shop they are going over to HLC/Jart.
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Pretty sure it was DSM/dwindle and have been told by my local skate shop they are going over to HLC/Jart.
Sweeet, thanks man
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Ohh looks like they are using SC for NA and DSM for EU and Asia, thanks man! And dwindle makes some of the best boards IMO most definitely skate-able, I'd say give it a try
Why would they do that ??? ugh... I just want to skate one of those jewel/ tama boards from that series!
I think you're in the minority on that dwindle wood, you have some good experience with them?
I swear I'm just going to buy a magenta/ passport because I don't have to worry about about whacky colored plies and low quality wood. Currently eyeing up a few Northern Co.s too though
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I think it's just to save on shipping costs and import tax etc.
I am in the Dwindle preference minority, but from my experience, they come super stiff and stay stiff and poppy longer than anything else, apparently some Pros on non dwindle companies also ride dwindle boards and I feel like this isn't a coincidence
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I can't believe Scumco would stop using pennswood.
Makes me never want another scumco :-X
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I can't believe Scumco would stop using pennswood.
Makes me never want another scumco :-X
In their defense - pennswood is really hard to deal with.
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I've actually heard that about Generator too, sup with all that?
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I know it's 'cool' to shit on Dwindle and I'm personally not a fan of any of their brands when it comes to aesthetics but they really do make some of the best boards on the market. How many companies are using resin epoxy glue, doing individual board pressing and offer a 30 day warranty against breakage? Oh and their quality control is pretty fucking top notch as well. No fucked up misaligned drilled holes or funky ass concave ala PS Stix. Dwindle has even recently jumped on the fullshape/shovel nose trend with some of their new shapes as well.
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We got some Scumco boards in the other day, I always ride em even though I hate pennswood. The ones that came in had made in Canada stickers, They also look and felt different from Penns. Anyone know if they switched and if so what woodshop they came out of because they look awesome.
I love boards pressed at Control. The shapes are good and I really like the mellow concave.
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sup with all that?
Don't know why they choose to ignore people that give them thousands of dollars - pretty weird if you ask me. If I took your money, I would at least return your e-mails/phone calls.
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^^Can second that. Not here to throw shade or advance anything negative but Penns been jamming people up. It does not surprise me one bit that Scumco had to use Control for a run.
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I can't believe Scumco would stop using pennswood.
Makes me never want another scumco :-X
In their defense - pennswood is really hard to deal with.
I just liked that they were Pittsburgh based and PA pressed. It was the easiest way to support local. Pennswood IG hasn't posted in like 2 months, so I'm not surprised to hear they're absent with business.
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That's fucked!, the amount of money it takes get a run of decks for a shop or smaller company could probably sink them if they don't see the returns for the investment, basically putting their business into pennswood's hands and having them ghost you would be completely fucked, that is shocking
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Looks like Flip is doing a small run PS pressed thing for Lance
https://flipskateboards.myshopify.com/
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^^^ @firebert @heritage I have to admit that we are running behind on production, and I am a week or more behind on emails basically because I am spending 12-16 hours a day in the shop trying to catch up. However your posts are making it sound like we took someone?s money and did not come through with the highest quality boards we can make. The following posts seem like they formed an opinion based on your posts that makes us at Pennswood look like we don?t value every customer we work with as friends and business partners. Scumco has a new line of boards coming through the shop now which will be out in a few weeks. They are trying some boards from another wood shop as their price point boards.
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Ehhhh! Get fucked boys. Pennswood came out swinging.
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@Pennswood - I love your boards and have always gone out of my way to support brands that use your woodshop. My post wasn't anything negative, as I even prefaced it with. Good on you for setting the record straight. Continued success.
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Ehhhh! Get fucked boys. Pennswood came out swinging.
You think admitting you're understaffed is coming out swinging? A business should at least pick-up the phone or answer emails for their clients, that's the most basic level of customer service that should be continuous regardless of demand, is this normally how things in skate woodshops work?
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is this normally how things in skate woodshops work?
Normally how things work is you move overseas to save on labor costs and skirt regulations. Pennswood hasn't done that and they deserve credit for trying.
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is this normally how things in skate woodshops work?
Quality>Quantity
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is this normally how things in skate woodshops work?
Move what overseas? There are a handful of woodshops in North America and only P.S. from my understanding moved to China at one point but it wasn't financially worthwhile so they went to Mexico, as Paul Schmitt stated in a fairly recent interview. DSM was opened in China right off the bat, as with other Chinese woodshops.
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I think in this context "overseas" means "not made in America"
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Move what overseas?
My mistake. Should have said out of the US rather than overseas. Misinformed choice of words on my part.
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Ohh gotcha, and fair enough, I think Generator started US made and moved and have heard they are still pretty impossible to deal with, so there is that too
I was just shocked at the no response thing
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Ehhhh! Get fucked boys. Pennswood came out swinging.
It was a joke friend. Calm down It'll be okay.
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Ehhhh! Get fucked boys. Pennswood came out swinging.
You know the story of The Boy who Cried Joke right?
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Ehhhh! Get fucked boys. Pennswood came out swinging.
He joked so many times people stop believing he was jokes.
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Ohh gotcha, and fair enough, I think Generator started US made and moved and have heard they are still pretty impossible to deal with, so there is that too
I was just shocked at the no response thing
Can't be that hard to deal with if half the industry is using them.....
Gotta like if pennswood isn't returning emails but is on slap.....they got their priorities right.....
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Ohh gotcha, and fair enough, I think Generator started US made and moved and have heard they are still pretty impossible to deal with, so there is that too
I was just shocked at the no response thing
Can't be that hard to deal with if half the industry is using them.....
Gotta like if pennswood isn't returning emails but is on slap.....they got their priorities right.....
from what i have heard generator isnt taking on new customers, they have a lot of market share but might not be able to keep up with the demand.
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Strikes me they have more capacity than than their competitors which is why companies have used them lately ie FA, Habitiat....
There are a ton of new companies though and I'm sure at some point they may prioritize......sounds like lots of people making boards....not sure how many boards are selling though....
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Strikes me they have more capacity than than their competitors which is why companies have used them lately ie FA, Habitiat....
There are a ton of new companies though and I'm sure at some point they may prioritize......sounds like lots of people making boards....not sure how many boards are selling though....
Everyone and their mom is making boards now, and there are only so many [good] woodshops to go around you know? This is why smaller board cos. do different woodshop runs, it's about the woodshops availability after they handle groups like DLX/Primitive/BBoys/PlanB (and those are just the bigger groups, well not sure about PlanB tho;) But you get the point. PSstix has got to be at capacity of late with all the new companies springing up.
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I am in the Dwindle preference minority, but from my experience, they come super stiff and stay stiff and poppy longer than anything else, apparently some Pros on non dwindle companies also ride dwindle boards and I feel like this isn't a coincidence
I know it's 'cool' to shit on Dwindle and I'm personally not a fan of any of their brands when it comes to aesthetics but they really do make some of the best boards on the market. How many companies are using resin epoxy glue, doing individual board pressing and offer a 30 day warranty against breakage? Oh and their quality control is pretty fucking top notch as well. No fucked up misaligned drilled holes or funky ass concave ala PS Stix. Dwindle has even recently jumped on the fullshape/shovel nose trend with some of their new shapes as well.
cheers boys!
I contacted a shop over here and they confirmed that these boards do indeed have DSM stickers on them.
So many brands I want to support at the moment so I don't know if I can do the made in China thang...
Still drooling though
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In another thread someone mentioned Craig is using the same wood as deluxe. Can anyone confirm?
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Got the Brian Wenning reissue in Europe - Made in EU = Jart.
The following Brands are now pressed Jart in and for Europe:
Sour (EU Market)
Flip Skateboards (EU Market)
Sk8mafia (EU Market)
Habitat Skateboards (EU Market)
SOVRN (EU Market)
https://store.hlcdist.com/skateboard/skateboard-decks.html
Had a Sour 8.1 this spring by Jart, shape sucked and heavy, the Habitat BW looks good from a shape perspective but the wood seems thick compared to Bareback/South Central or it is just the way the edges are sanded.
Had some South Central Poltic Boards this summer and I can admit best wood and shapes but nearly impossible to get SC wood in Europe. Skated one Scumco (Pennswood?) and it felt so much chunckier compared to the South Central Boards.
Anyone know where to get SC Wood in Europe (not UK) please let me know.
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nice one, Jart really takin over the EU, damn!
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In another thread someone mentioned Craig is using the same wood as deluxe. Can anyone confirm?
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/580/anotheronelol.jpg)
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Got the Brian Wenning reissue in Europe - Made in EU = Jart.
The following Brands are now pressed Jart in and for Europe:
Sour (EU Market)
Flip Skateboards (EU Market)
Sk8mafia (EU Market)
Habitat Skateboards (EU Market)
SOVRN (EU Market)
https://store.hlcdist.com/skateboard/skateboard-decks.html
Had a Sour 8.1 this spring by Jart, shape sucked and heavy, the Habitat BW looks good from a shape perspective but the wood seems thick compared to Bareback/South Central or it is just the way the edges are sanded.
Had some South Central Poltic Boards this summer and I can admit best wood and shapes but nearly impossible to get SC wood in Europe. Skated one Scumco (Pennswood?) and it felt so much chunckier compared to the South Central Boards.
Anyone know where to get SC Wood in Europe (not UK) please let me know.
This is a webstore based in the UK with a bunch of Scum.co boards, not sure how the shipping or whatever works if thats why you said no UK, and you may already be familiar with it
https://www.thepalomino.com/collections/boards?page=4
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I can't believe Scumco would stop using pennswood.
Makes me never want another scumco :-X
In their defense - pennswood is really hard to deal with.
lol so true. they're impossible it's really obvious why nobody uses them.
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This is a webstore based in the UK with a bunch of Scum.co boards, not sure how the shipping or whatever works if thats why you said no UK, and you may already be familiar with it
https://www.thepalomino.com/collections/boards?page=4
Thanks, I meant SC = South Central and not Scumco, still got 2 new Scumco Boards at home but I prefer the South Central wood.
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Realized that Traffic is missing from the list. Should be Generator according to online sources.
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oh man, that was a huge fuck up, shit! added and much respect to traffic
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This is a webstore based in the UK with a bunch of Scum.co boards, not sure how the shipping or whatever works if thats why you said no UK, and you may already be familiar with it
https://www.thepalomino.com/collections/boards?page=4
Thanks, I meant SC = South Central and not Scumco, still got 2 new Scumco Boards at home but I prefer the South Central wood.
I believe the only shop in the euro area (UK, soz m8) stocking a hint of south central is slugger stocking hammers
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oh man, that was a huge fuck up, shit! added and much respect to traffic
They're another flip flopper. You should really just follow wood shops on instagram and add what you see, because you haphazardly add (and refuse to add) to your list accurately. If I made another account and said that my shop just got in a run of PS Stix Palace boards, you'd probably run to add it to your list without question.
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But I'm pretty sure someone would correct it.....
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oh man, that was a huge fuck up, shit! added and much respect to traffic
They're another flip flopper. You should really just follow wood shops on instagram and add what you see, because you haphazardly add (and refuse to add) to your list accurately. If I made another account and said that my shop just got in a run of PS Stix Palace boards, you'd probably run to add it to your list without question.
If Generator is the flip, which woodshop is the flop? Care to enlighten us instead of repeating that a woodshop thread is obsolete?
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oh man, that was a huge fuck up, shit! added and much respect to traffic
They're another flip flopper. You should really just follow wood shops on instagram and add what you see, because you haphazardly add (and refuse to add) to your list accurately. If I made another account and said that my shop just got in a run of PS Stix Palace boards, you'd probably run to add it to your list without question.
If Generator is the flip, which woodshop is the flop? Care to enlighten us instead of repeating that a woodshop thread is obsolete?
Not particularly, seeing as my previous suggestions weren't added to the list after providing proof of my claims; there's no incentive to keep giving him fish to eat, so instead I chose to teach him how to fish for himself.
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oh man, that was a huge fuck up, shit! added and much respect to traffic
They're another flip flopper. You should really just follow wood shops on instagram and add what you see, because you haphazardly add (and refuse to add) to your list accurately. If I made another account and said that my shop just got in a run of PS Stix Palace boards, you'd probably run to add it to your list without question.
If Generator is the flip, which woodshop is the flop? Care to enlighten us instead of repeating that a woodshop thread is obsolete?
Not particularly, seeing as my previous suggestions weren't added to the list after providing proof of my claims; there's no incentive to keep giving him fish to eat, so instead I chose to teach him how to fish for himself.
Check out this big fucking baby.
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pennswood isn't returning emails but is on slap.....they got their priorities right.....
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whos doing LE now? were under blitz then moved to elements "the branch" or whatever so are they on ps same as element and plan b?
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This is a webstore based in the UK with a bunch of Scum.co boards, not sure how the shipping or whatever works if thats why you said no UK, and you may already be familiar with it
https://www.thepalomino.com/collections/boards?page=4
Thanks, I meant SC = South Central and not Scumco, still got 2 new Scumco Boards at home but I prefer the South Central wood.
I believe the only shop in the euro area (UK, soz m8) stocking a hint of south central is slugger stocking hammers
also just realised (dunno if u give a fuck) that another uk shop called note carry politic, another SC pressed co
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whos doing LE now? were under blitz then moved to elements "the branch" or whatever so are they on ps same as element and plan b?
I don't know who they are under now but the Flintstones board I bought almost a year ago was from Surplus Distribution. They are no longer on Surplus' site though and the LE site itself has dwindled down to 2 pages. The home page has no info, just 3 catalog items and the only other page is the catalog with a few more items.
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What about Meow?
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whos doing LE now? were under blitz then moved to elements "the branch" or whatever so are they on ps same as element and plan b?
I don't know who they are under now but the Flintstones board I bought almost a year ago was from Surplus Distribution. They are no longer on Surplus' site though and the LE site itself has dwindled down to 2 pages. The home page has no info, just 3 catalog items and the only other page is the catalog with a few more items.
deck came and had a mexico label on it, stix?
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What about Meow?
ps stix.
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Updated! nice one guys ;)
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passport isn't included either?
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Yep....good work....passport is BBS in North America at least.....
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Yep....good work....passport is BBS in North America at least.....
Europe too.
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that was definitely a glaring omission, thanks guys!
there really are a shitload of awesome board co.'s out there, damn!
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Yep....good work....passport is BBS in North America at least.....
I saw in another thread you said Hoopla was made by Powell, do they make their own boards? I guess they are the same wood as mini-logo?, which also haven't been added
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yah hoopla is Powell but not sure if like minilogo=China or flight deck=USA....
I was referring to the rest of the parts on the set up, minilogo stuff is decent for beginners....
Most of po wells stuff pressed in the US had a sticker on it I think.....
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Is bbs the wood shop and generator the distribution for them?
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Anyone got Info on Skate shop deck wood. Like active, pharmacy boards? I know Val surf used to print boards on crailtap wood back in the day. active has those chocolate collab boards for each location. Any info on stuff like that?
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If we post that shit in here....someone might lose their mind...
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Is bbs the wood shop and generator the distribution for them?
I think that BBS makes all the boards and does most of the graphics, and generator does the graphics for smaller runs. I remember when some Generator boards(Magenta) had Made in USA on them, even though i'm pretty sure sure the actual deck was made in Mexico, so I also think Generator was a way to put USA on Mexican boards before the cat was out of the bag.
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Numbers is PS Stix not generator.
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Generator = BBS
1905 Diamond Street
San Marcos, CA 92078
http://www.generatordistribution.com/contact-1/
http://www.bbsmfg.com/contact.html
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Numbers is PS Stix not generator.
Yup. The only Numbers deck I saw was PS. Alien also used both, though the last 2 I saw were PS.
If 5Boro switched to DSM that's news to me - used to be that other China mfg that brands use once they can't afford the wood they actually want. Never knew the name of that mfg.
What's the woodshop that made 1031? They did Send Help for a while too... the boards are gross. Shrink wrap is very brittle and breaks/rips easy... usually red or blue dyes. Made in USA.
BBS is the best, SC gets my vote for second.
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Numbers is PS Stix not generator.
Yup. The only Numbers deck I saw was PS. Alien also used both, though the last 2 I saw were PS.
If 5Boro switched to DSM that's news to me - used to be that other China mfg that brands use once they can't afford the wood they actually want. Never knew the name of that mfg.
What's the woodshop that made 1031? They did Send Help for a while too... the boards are gross. Shrink wrap is very brittle and breaks/rips easy... usually red or blue dyes. Made in USA.
BBS is the best, SC gets my vote for second.
Beer City pressed the decks for 1031. I've never seen a Send Help in person but I know they are USA made and assumed it was Beer City also. Kinda sucks. If they where BBS wood I would try them out.
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Vagrant skates is PS Stix. Does anyone know what Program is using? They were using PS when they were being distributed through welcome but now they're on their own. Also, could anyone confirm 917 is still using PS Stix? Was checking one out at a shop yesterday and didn't see a PS serial number, just a made in mex sticker
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Anyone got Info on Skate shop deck wood. Like active, pharmacy boards? I know Val surf used to print boards on crailtap wood back in the day. active has those chocolate collab boards for each location. Any info on stuff like that?
I think active boards are DLX wood.
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aight updated cheers guys, since the end of 2017 is approaching anyone wanna take up the torch and start the 2018 thread...? You could copy/paste all, some or none of mine if you'd like
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i had a numbers that was generator.
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hmm i winder i they are using both or if they have switched over, anyone get a bbs number recently?
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yeah I think someone had mentioned this before.....I have a feeling companies may have a preference ie. ps Stix but if they can't pump em out quick enough it's BBS.....
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Numbers is PS Stix not generator.
Yup. The only Numbers deck I saw was PS. Alien also used both, though the last 2 I saw were PS.
If 5Boro switched to DSM that's news to me - used to be that other China mfg that brands use once they can't afford the wood they actually want. Never knew the name of that mfg.
What's the woodshop that made 1031? They did Send Help for a while too... the boards are gross. Shrink wrap is very brittle and breaks/rips easy... usually red or blue dyes. Made in USA.
BBS is the best, SC gets my vote for second.
I could have sworn 5boro used chapman. Granted I haven't had one in about a year so a lot can change
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I could have sworn 5boro used chapman. Granted I haven't had one in about a year so a lot can change
They stopped using Chapman at least 3 years ago now. I had one of the original VHS series in 2014 and they had already switched to China wood at that point.
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Program just told me they now use Clutch. Used to be PS Stix prior to their departure from being distributed by Welcome. I've never heard of Clutch before, anyone have any experience with decks made there?
I use Clutch now. Good boards, really snappy.
Made in Mexico, good variety of shapes, the guys that run it all skate and it’s reflected in the product. Plus they have cool things like split veneers. They’re solid overall but it’s their shapes I like the most. They have a 8.5 that’s a hair under 8.6 which I personally really like.
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I use Clutch now. Good boards, really snappy.
Made in Mexico, good variety of shapes, the guys that run it all skate and it’s reflected in the product. Plus they have cool things like split veneers. They’re solid overall but it’s their shapes I like the most. They have a 8.5 that’s a hair under 8.6 which I personally really like.
Thanks a lot for the reply! I'll be trying out one of Program's new boards soon.
I just picked up a local guy’s shop deck and he uses Clutch. Shape, pop, and flex all feel really good. Had a nice little flat ground sesh on it today.
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Doesn't Clutch do Dogtown and that weird DOGGOD antwuan deal?
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Anyone skating any of the newer crail stuff? Better?
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^ I saw a jovontae crail thing and his reissue is ps stix. Old flatter concave too (7.5model tho)
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Nah....that's just for the one offs.....
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Aight, thanks for the latest updates guys ;)
Still wondering if there are any BBS's in the latest Numbers batches, or all P.S., like J Soy mentioned they probably just use both as need demands, just trying to narrow it down by season or drop a bit if that's possible
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Aight, thanks for the latest updates guys ;)
Still wondering if there are any BBS's in the latest Numbers batches, or all P.S., like J Soy mentioned they probably just use both as need demands, just trying to narrow it down by season or drop a bit if that's possible
I’ve had 5 numbers boards since February and they have all been ps stix. I asked my local shop who I got it from and they said the first drop some were bbs but since the second they have all been ps stix. They aren’t lasered on the top bolts like most ps boards I’m wondering if maybe someone confused that for bbs?
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Aight, thanks for the latest updates guys ;)
Still wondering if there are any BBS's in the latest Numbers batches, or all P.S., like J Soy mentioned they probably just use both as need demands, just trying to narrow it down by season or drop a bit if that's possible
Mine wasn't marked either.
Other then possibly feel, how were you able to identify they were PS without it? Just curious.
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Aight, thanks for the latest updates guys ;)
Still wondering if there are any BBS's in the latest Numbers batches, or all P.S., like J Soy mentioned they probably just use both as need demands, just trying to narrow it down by season or drop a bit if that's possible
Mine wasn't marked either.
Other then possibly feel, how were you able to identify they were PS without it? Just curious.
I think PS uses a lighter finishing substance, and the shapes are usually steeper/weirder and the grain wears differently, so i guess not that easily... but you could tell comparing maybe, oh also the warning stickers might help
I'll just leave Numbers as PS and can adjust if anyone ends up with a new bbs from them
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Aight, thanks for the latest updates guys ;)
Still wondering if there are any BBS's in the latest Numbers batches, or all P.S., like J Soy mentioned they probably just use both as need demands, just trying to narrow it down by season or drop a bit if that's possible
Mine wasn't marked either.
Other then possibly feel, how were you able to identify they were PS without it? Just curious.
They have a laser engraving of the girl doing math with her hands bbs boards don’t have laser engraving if there’s ever an engraving “built by bbs” it’s stamped into the wood not laser. The veneer or finish on the top is different and the shapes and concave is different between BBs and Ps that you can always tell if you look at a bunch of bbs and ps side by side from different brands, ps stix tend to be more rectangular and the rails are less rounded than a generator, also the stains are slightly different. Bbs also has I II III IV for where it was on the press stamped on the top bolts numbers don’t have that not even under the sticker instead they have a single dot imprint like ps stix do . Final reason is that the guys at the shop noticed the first ever drop were BBS/generator with the warning labels and I II III IV markings and then when the second drop came in they were different with the girl doing math laser engraved like ps stix are and just looked different looked exactly like ps stix wood.
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That dot is ps stix, i dunno what it’s used for but every ps board has it.
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How shitty is dwindle wood these days?
I really want to buy an enjoi at some point because I love those guys (and gal), but I don’t want a poopy board. They say their boards single pressed and use some gnarly epoxy that’s probably illegal in the US, which all sounds interesting, but I’ve heard bad stuff about the boards over the years.
I don’t give a shit that they’re made in China, because so is everything else i own. I just don’t want a board that sucks.
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When you buy it look at the top bolts, you want it to say Resin 7 Hard Rock Maple if its not hard rock maple don't get it. Also don't buy the ones with 30 day warranty (unless it says hard rock maple) look for 60 or 90 day warranty ones but above all look for it to say hard rock somewhere on the packaging instead of just resin epoxy hybrid or resin 7 or 100 percent canadian maple. Usually if you are buying the pro decks instead of logo ones it will be a 90 day warranty and hard rock maple and those ones are crisp and really good. All the impact stuff is amazing.
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IMO even the basic "Resin" price-point ones hold up as well or better than a lot of whats out there. The Resin-7's last forever though. Dwindle's boards are good, go for it and you might be pleasantly surprised.
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IMO even the basic "Resin" price-point ones hold up as well or better than a lot of whats out there. The Resin-7's last forever though. Dwindle's boards are good, go for it and you might be pleasantly surprised.
I’m always surprised at the hate for dwindle boards because they are really light and crisp and they offer different price points which is unique and they have really good labeling of the dimensions and concave and steep kick or mellow kick and the impact ones are probably the best boards other than Powell flight. But are you a heavy guy? The price point ones have pressure cracked around the bolts really fast for me 3 times it’s the only boards to ever do that to me. Or you get a dry one and they snap under the front bolts I respectfully disagree they last longer than most stuff out there. They are lower priced decent bang for your buck if you are tight on cash but they don’t last longer than literally anything. Also the budget ones usually have a really mellow shape with small noses. It would be the baseline they build those decks into completes with no name trucks to sell to Zumiez. I would spend the extra 20 bucks buy the regular priced hard rock ones and those are equal or better than ps stix or bbs.
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IMO even the basic "Resin" price-point ones hold up as well or better than a lot of whats out there. The Resin-7's last forever though. Dwindle's boards are good, go for it and you might be pleasantly surprised.
Actually there are kind of three, The budget ones don’t even say 100 percent Canadian Maple. Those suck. Then ones that say resin 7 100 percent Canadian Maple which I would say is equal to everything out there. Then the pro name boards that also say hard rock maple are really awesome. The impact plus is the best thing I’ve tried. Anyways that is just my opinions what I’ve noticed about dwindle boards I saw tj Rogers in toronto once and asked him a bunch of questions about dwindle boards cause I was curious and he told me about looking out for it to say hard rock or get the impact. I dunno the pricing in the USA but in Canada impact is almost the same price as a regular deck or sometimes just the same price which is really awesome.
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I also don't jump down anything so there is that may be the reason for our differing experiences, but for me the cheap ones have lasted pretty much as long as the R-7's, but the R-7's do keep super rigid longer when the pricepoints are a little saggy but still very skate-able.
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Pretty sure BBS doesn't mark all their boards with the Roman numerals just some DLX stuff....I thought I saw laser etching on habitat stuff after they switched....
I don't think dwindles stuff is bad but I still try and avoid buying stuff from China when I can and I'm not crazy about the brands anyhow....I skated a bunch of resin boards when they first came out and thought they were fine...
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do any of you know what woodshop makes frog boards?
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do any of you know what woodshop makes frog boards?
Generator.
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Just seen some insta stories of Girl or Crailtap on a China deck factory so I assume that they keep doing with the same wood...
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I think it's different but still China....
They'll obviously never do it but if they just did dwindle...id be psyched....
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yo otaku, who is doing scram's boards?
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Generator doing some Plan B is new, no?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc2hPDrjQZ7/
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Could be...I'm gonna guess it's PS being too busy....
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yo otaku, who is doing scram's boards?
looks like generator
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWvbDEJDXep/
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noice!
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Added ;)
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Is there a thread about what the difference is between the woodshops? I've heard generator is stiffer but longer lasting, ps stix poppy but get soggy quick, but I don't know anything about the others.
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Is there a thread about what the difference is between the woodshops? I've heard generator is stiffer but longer lasting, ps stix poppy but get soggy quick, but I don't know anything about the others.
Those are the only two that matter really in terms of big time board companies, Pennswood or South Central are great but only indy companies tend to use those.
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yo otaku, who is doing scram's boards?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWvbDEJDXep/
Why the fuck is Generator taking pics of boards in Planet Fitness?
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crust punx getting buff?
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Could be...I'm gonna guess it's PS being too busy....
Elijah boards are top priority, yo.
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is the 8.62 Elijah shape as good as it looks?
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Is Alien Workshop PS Stix right now or BBS/Generator?
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Is Alien Workshop PS Stix right now or BBS/Generator?
They are Generator. Very long nose and tails.
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Is wknd still ps stix? What about habitat?
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Is Alien Workshop PS Stix right now or BBS/Generator?
They are Generator. Very long nose and tails.
I was looking for the same question, thanks pals!
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Right now even the stuff that normally is PS isn't always.....id just look for the PS number.....
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Right now even the stuff that normally is PS isn't always.....id just look for the PS number.....
That's difficult to do when ordering online.
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Ask the shop.....
Element...there ya go....that's my answer......
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Anyone have any info on the woodshop pressing Charlie Thomas' brand, Preservation Co? The local shop just got a shipment in and they have a few shapes that look fun. One has the shovel nose and squarish tail, similar to the Black Label Curb Crusher with the skate crutch graphic that Im riding now. If I was to stack both decks together, its almost identical (besides the graphics), so Im guessing BBS.
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Anyone have any info on the woodshop pressing Charlie Thomas' brand, Preservation Co? The local shop just got a shipment in and they have a few shapes that look fun. One has the shovel nose and squarish tail, similar to the Black Label Curb Crusher with the skate crutch graphic that Im riding now. If I was to stack both decks together, its almost identical (besides the graphics), so Im guessing BBS.
Answering my own question here. A few of their deck are PS and the others just have the dot and width size stamped on the top front truck holes.
Standing on the deck, they feel a little wobbly. The concave has a weird, super flat bottom with a med concave that shoots up pretty quickly. I passed on them all...
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IIRC, Globe is Dwindle
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IIRC, Globe owns Dwindle
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riding a studio board right now. it seems like they are the only ones that press their boards at Control. the board has a nice shape. wish the nose and tail was a little more steep, but that's just me that like a steep nose and tail. it's very springy, it feels soggy to stand on but ollies springs you up in the air. been skating it every day for soon a month and it holds up nicely. could absolutely skate it for some more weeks. but my local shop is having a spring sale, so i'm picking up a polar deck, since i feel like they serve me the best.
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Sorry to bump an oldish thread, but I figured it would be more appropriate to ask here than start a new one. I’m in the market for blanks and was curious if anyone knows where SoCal skate shop sources theirs from? They won’t reveal. Also, how are Chapman’s? Never rode one but they seem to be a top supplier of blanks with direct shipment no matter how many you order, and I’m curious if anyone can attest to their quality. Much appreciated.
There's a 2018 woodshop thread.
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Found this information pretty mindblowing, so felt the need to join and say thanks to the OP for putting this together.
I saw mention of a newer woodshop thread but couldn't find it so am posting in this one.
I am in my 30s now and genuinely always thought that pro decks were all made in the countries that the brands were from. And thought if any brands were outsourcing oversease it would be the huge companies that have been around forever like powell, but it turns out they are one of the few to still make their own boards in the USA!
I live very close to "A third foot" skateboards (England) so perhaps them making their own boards on a very small scale in a very DIY sort of way made me think that is how everyone does it.
Skateboard decks are expensive, especially US brands if you live outside the USA. The price for a US brand pro deck in the UK is around $80 which is insanely expensive for a piece of plywood. I always thought the expense was justified through it being made on a very small scale, like short run screen printed T shirts or posters. Making them almost like collectable pieces of art.
This has inspired me to start making my own!
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The 2019 thread is Literally on the FIRST page