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Title: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Wienerboy on January 12, 2023, 05:41:08 PM
The fit is a timeless fit featured throughout movies and pop culture. It's the greaser look, obviously. Italian mobsters, Mexican gang members, the pimp in Taxi Driver. Take off Ace Ventura's Hawaiian shirt and he's dressed the same. Check out Denzel Washington in Devil in a Blue Dress. My great grandfather wore that fit, white tee tucked up high into some slacks - old man shit. Aged Chinese men in Beijing wear this exact outfit when strolling the block at sunset as if it's their pajamas.

Dylan used to dress like Arto when he was growing up around Arto and spending a lot of time with him. Then as he started hanging with Dill more, his style became more like Dill's. Dill is inspired by greasers too it's easy to tell and he was dressing like that at the time.

I love Dylan just as much as anyone and miss his elegance but that ain't his look.

Berle's abrupt switch of style to knock-off this same greaser look was embarrassing and I was also annoyed with Swan Pablo and his similar style for a long time.

Anyways. Nothing is original. Time to give up folks.

So let's make a SLAP Forum Boards skate brand and make our own boards. We've got that one guy who designed those sick graphics to help out AWS...
 
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: dannyprovolone on January 12, 2023, 05:58:46 PM
dont do drugs kids
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: ok boomer on January 12, 2023, 06:04:12 PM
This is a good book report. B+
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 12, 2023, 06:07:10 PM
Well you’ve convinced me.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: SatanicPanic on January 12, 2023, 06:09:59 PM
Ethan Fowler wore it before them and I’m sure it wasn’t his idea either.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: FatGuy92 on January 12, 2023, 06:13:30 PM
The fit is a timeless fit featured throughout movies and pop culture. It's the greaser look, obviously. Italian mobsters, Mexican gang members, the pimp in Taxi Driver. Take off Ace Ventura's Hawaiian shirt and he's dressed the same. Check out Denzel Washington in Devil in a Blue Dress. My great grandfather wore that fit, white tee tucked up high into some slacks - old man shit. Aged Chinese men in Beijing wear this exact outfit when strolling the block at sunset as if it's their pajamas.

Dylan used to dress like Arto when he was growing up around Arto and spending a lot of time with him. Then as he started hanging with Dill more, his style became more like Dill's. Dill is inspired by greasers too it's easy to tell and he was dressing like that at the time.

I love Dylan just as much as anyone and miss his elegance but that ain't his look.

Berle's abrupt switch of style to knock-off this same greaser look was embarrassing and I was also annoyed with Swan Pablo and his similar style for a long time.

Anyways. Nothing is original. Time to give up folks.

So let's make a SLAP Forum Boards skate brand and make our own boards. We've got that one guy who designed those sick graphics to help out AWS...
 

of course Dylan didn't invent the look and i don't think anyone is claiming that, but nobody else really dressed like him in skateboarding, which is why in the context of skateboarding, Dylan is brought up. regardless of where he took inspiration from, he undeniably had his own thing going and he rocked the fuck out of it. not sure what your point is if you personally admit that you were annoyed with Berle and Sean Pablo adopting that same look.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Lou Strux on January 12, 2023, 06:15:38 PM
Whatever.
I was into Ishod’s “Cosby sweater” phase.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Candied cigarettes on January 12, 2023, 06:17:00 PM
Lol who do you think you are?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Lame_Nigga on January 12, 2023, 06:17:47 PM
He didn’t invent the look but he perfected it which is why it’s talked about.

And a Slap board brand would never work because we’d all say we’d buy someone’s pro model if they ever turned pro and then we’d never buy them
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: sluggers on January 12, 2023, 06:28:55 PM
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter if you ship to Mali.

Can your next assignment be to break down the Matt Hensley fashion craze of cargos, chukkas, and chain wallets.?

Much obliged.

Free Slave with Gettysburg Address griptape
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: skate_or_dingus on January 12, 2023, 06:35:58 PM
 Username checks out.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: big_kev_215 on January 12, 2023, 06:40:08 PM
If your argument is that this is a timeless fit that isn’t exclusive to Dylan, why are you annoyed with Berle and Sean Pablo for adopting it?

Templeton “Welcome to Hell” - sickest fits
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: versacekid420 on January 12, 2023, 08:04:44 PM
Shuuuutttt uuuuuup
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: boogs on January 12, 2023, 08:05:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XaxoXWR_00
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: shannamal on January 12, 2023, 08:29:04 PM
im hijaking this thread


i've decided that this brand, satisfy running, is the running version of dylan

(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/cFDIJPJ6sbxCvuEVs_Bf6nyh6i4=/1600x1067/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/24105441/satisfy-running-trailism-FT.jpg)

shirts with holes!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0524/9024/0175/products/satisfy-running-mothtech-t-shirt-heather-grey-7_1160x.jpg?v=1656888200)


(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/https%3A%2F%2Fhypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2022%2F08%2Fsatisfy-trailism-collection-running-2.jpg?q=75&w=800&cbr=1&fit=max)

that's all
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: sluggers on January 12, 2023, 08:34:48 PM
Actually, for all the Fred Gall Slap love, we have never narrowed down a signature Fred Gall kit.

Weekend homework, Slappers.!
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: doublesteveburger on January 12, 2023, 08:52:06 PM
Off colored heather grey shirt with mystery stain, Jeans, half cabs



Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: modern life is war on January 12, 2023, 10:25:20 PM
Plenty of people in alternative scenes were doing the same look years before Dylan did it which is where he probably got it from. I'm struggling not to use the word hipster here but it was definitely already a trend in that crowd. When i was in college i mostly hung out with art school students and their uniform was like 4 hole dr martens, cuffed black jeans, plain black belts and a white band t shirt tucked in to the jeans.

I feel like in general skate and alternative culture feed off each other for fashion trends but that one definitely came through alternative culture first
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: somethingmustbreaknow on January 12, 2023, 11:30:59 PM
all these paragraphs on dylan. fits, where it came from, who wore it in their careers etc. but no mention of arne stein? gtfo  >:(
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: greenbeans on January 12, 2023, 11:54:50 PM
This thread needs to be focused
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: livin on a speyer on January 13, 2023, 01:27:20 AM
Was this outfit a gimmick?
Lots of people here tend to think that heavy metal clothes are a gimmick. Are hip hop clothes a gimmick?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: HeapsCool on January 13, 2023, 01:37:56 AM
Am I gimmick?  :-[
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: livin on a speyer on January 13, 2023, 02:05:04 AM
Am I gimmick?  :-[
Need to know
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: RoughStylin on January 13, 2023, 03:36:25 AM
Who said Dylan outfit? (post 2017)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mean salto on January 13, 2023, 03:45:13 AM
Who said Dylan outfit? (post 2017)

Feel like I probably have but don't see what the fuss is about. It's an easy way to describe a certain style of the time. You say Dylan everybody instantly pictures what you're talking about just like if you said penny or dill or trapasso or whoever
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: tadej Pog on January 13, 2023, 03:47:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XaxoXWR_00


fucking dope song. One of the best nas albuns.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: manysnakes on January 13, 2023, 04:59:12 AM
SWAN PABLO
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: HyenaChaser on January 13, 2023, 05:01:30 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/TtmKfdg/Berle-Dylan.jpg)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: yungtaskforce on January 13, 2023, 05:03:19 AM
im not wearing a wife beater until I can fill it out w my scrawny ass
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: thebacker on January 13, 2023, 05:06:12 AM
bro youre like years late to be complaining about this kind of stuff

go touch some grass
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: shotvx on January 13, 2023, 05:08:22 AM
Steve Olson.... 8)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Wienerboy on January 13, 2023, 05:31:11 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/TtmKfdg/Berle-Dylan.jpg)

Haha, good stuff.

Forgot how many Slappers can't wait to jump on threads to cool guy everyone. What I meant to do was ask is - why is it still called the "Dylan outfit" - bridging fashion and skating isn't anything particularly new.

To me, he followed in the footsteps of people like Greco, Ellington, Dill and even Heath.

Greco’s Vans Escobars are the first skate shoe that I know of that were designed to look like a dress shoe or loafer.

So why is Dylan attributed with popularizing this mob look? As people said, he's not the first one in skateboarding to do this by a longshot. I think it’s more because skateboarding kept getting more and more mainstream as he was coming up and so more eyes were on him. That plus he’s a hot dude. But it was others before him that pioneered the fashion / model / skate connection.

I mentioned Berle and SP to counter my own argument, that not everyone dressed as an old timey mobster is doing the "Dylan cosplay". However, when it comes to Berle / SP, these two were blatantly copying Dylan because of their abrupt style change and close proximity to him or FA.

Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: landedprimo on January 13, 2023, 05:34:20 AM
The fit is a timeless fit featured throughout movies and pop culture. It's the greaser look, obviously. Italian mobsters, Mexican gang members, the pimp in Taxi Driver. Take off Ace Ventura's Hawaiian shirt and he's dressed the same. Check out Denzel Washington in Devil in a Blue Dress. My great grandfather wore that fit, white tee tucked up high into some slacks - old man shit. Aged Chinese men in Beijing wear this exact outfit when strolling the block at sunset as if it's their pajamas.

Dylan used to dress like Arto when he was growing up around Arto and spending a lot of time with him. Then as he started hanging with Dill more, his style became more like Dill's. Dill is inspired by greasers too it's easy to tell and he was dressing like that at the time.

I love Dylan just as much as anyone and miss his elegance but that ain't his look.

Berle's abrupt switch of style to knock-off this same greaser look was embarrassing and I was also annoyed with Swan Pablo and his similar style for a long time.

Anyways. Nothing is original. Time to give up folks.

So let's make a SLAP Forum Boards skate brand and make our own boards. We've got that one guy who designed those sick graphics to help out AWS...
 

I'm sick of hearing about this now too, but only since you brought it up.

Edit: I agree Slap needs it own brand haha
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: hotstudios_on_youtube on January 13, 2023, 05:42:00 AM
dylan got with girls, unlike the rest of us
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: KGB on January 13, 2023, 05:51:33 AM
It’s called the “Berle” now. Get with the program.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: sle_epy on January 13, 2023, 05:55:56 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/TtmKfdg/Berle-Dylan.jpg)
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Haha, good stuff.

Forgot how many Slappers can't wait to jump on threads to cool guy everyone. What I meant to do was ask is - why is it still called the "Dylan outfit" - bridging fashion and skating isn't anything particularly new.

To me, he followed in the footsteps of people like Greco, Ellington, Dill and even Heath.

Greco’s Vans Escobars are the first skate shoe that I know of that were designed to look like a dress shoe or loafer.

So why is Dylan attributed with popularizing this mob look? As people said, he's not the first one in skateboarding to do this by a longshot. I think it’s more because skateboarding kept getting more and more mainstream as he was coming up and so more eyes were on him. That plus he’s a hot dude. But it was others before him that pioneered the fashion / model / skate connection.

I mentioned Berle and SP to counter my own argument, that not everyone dressed as an old timey mobster is doing the "Dylan cosplay". However, when it comes to Berle / SP, these two were blatantly copying Dylan because of their abrupt style change and close proximity to him or FA.

Was going to say, he's the hottest one out of all of them so he's the most memorable. He also did it best. Dill always looked homeless and is not attractive, Dylan looked like he was walking out of an art gallery or off the stage at a show with a trail of women behind him. Of course guys idolized him the most so it's his look in your minds. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Wienerboy on January 13, 2023, 06:14:15 AM
Quote from: Eivetsskates

Was going to say, he's the hottest one out of all of them so he's the most memorable. He also did it best. Dill always looked homeless and is not attractive, Dylan looked like he was walking out of an art gallery or off the stage at a show with a trail of women behind him. Of course guys idolized him the most so it's his look in your minds. Makes sense.

Yeah, good point. Best answer here
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: HyenaChaser on January 13, 2023, 06:23:17 AM
George Orton probably did the first frontside air.

But Tony Alva made it look good.

Whose name do you remember?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Wienerboy on January 13, 2023, 06:26:53 AM
George Orton probably did the first frontside air.

But Tony Alva made it look good.

Whose name do you remember?

Also a good point, but my argument is still that Greco was the orig AND made it look good, but doesn't receive enough credit.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: skate_or_dingus on January 13, 2023, 07:32:31 AM
It’s called the “Berle” now. Get with the program.

 I thought it was the Bubba Jackson?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: jerrygurneyscream on January 13, 2023, 07:42:25 AM
maybe youd stop hearing about the dylan fit so much if you stopped wearing the dylan fit so much bro
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: ggrimmedd on January 13, 2023, 07:46:39 AM
People need to get over the "someone stole dylan style" stuff, it's a classic and almost universal combination of clothing, the only thing is that dylan beautiful skating and body type suits very nice the super model look with ragged expensive shit, combos like that making a big impact on and off skateboarding.

Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on January 13, 2023, 07:53:09 AM
Whenever this topic comes up it's very easy to tell whose cultural point of reference begins and ends strictly within skateboarding.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: manysnakes on January 13, 2023, 08:04:29 AM
Whenever this topic comes up it's very easy to tell whose cultural point of reference begins and ends strictly within skateboarding.

(https://media.gq-magazine.co.uk/photos/5ec662e1657c42308f35b4db/master/w_1920%2Cc_limit/20200521-dylan-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Sizzle on January 13, 2023, 08:24:06 AM
Technically you need cuffed jeans or a vneck t for full Dylan fit, just blue jeans and tight white t aren’t a full Dylan fit
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 13, 2023, 08:32:31 AM
No one ever tries to talk about Dylan with me.

I'd probably just say rip nice imps and quickly start talking about products.

I've realized that no one wants to talk about Kalis and his contributions to switch so trucks will have to do

Why you riding those Indys? Don't you know that NHS is some kook shit?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 13, 2023, 09:22:40 AM
No one ever tries to talk about Dylan with me.

You tryin to talk Dylan, bro?  It can be arranged.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: SatanicPanic on January 13, 2023, 09:25:13 AM
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Whenever this topic comes up it's very easy to tell whose cultural point of reference begins and ends strictly within skateboarding.
[close]

(https://media.gq-magazine.co.uk/photos/5ec662e1657c42308f35b4db/master/w_1920%2Cc_limit/20200521-dylan-03.jpg)
Weird to see Alice Cooper without his eye makeup
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Watson on January 13, 2023, 09:33:19 AM
dont do drugs kids

Disagree.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: GAY on January 13, 2023, 09:50:02 AM
This is the first time I've ever heard of someone being less than delighted with Swan.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: ok boomer on January 13, 2023, 10:17:17 AM
im hijaking this thread


i've decided that this brand, satisfy running, is the running version of dylan

(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/cFDIJPJ6sbxCvuEVs_Bf6nyh6i4=/1600x1067/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/24105441/satisfy-running-trailism-FT.jpg)

shirts with holes!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0524/9024/0175/products/satisfy-running-mothtech-t-shirt-heather-grey-7_1160x.jpg?v=1656888200)


(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/https%3A%2F%2Fhypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2022%2F08%2Fsatisfy-trailism-collection-running-2.jpg?q=75&w=800&cbr=1&fit=max)

that's all

i'll try out that tassled shirt
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: manysnakes on January 13, 2023, 10:28:07 AM
im hijaking this thread


i've decided that this brand, satisfy running, is the running version of dylan

(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/cFDIJPJ6sbxCvuEVs_Bf6nyh6i4=/1600x1067/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/24105441/satisfy-running-trailism-FT.jpg)

shirts with holes!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0524/9024/0175/products/satisfy-running-mothtech-t-shirt-heather-grey-7_1160x.jpg?v=1656888200)


(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/https%3A%2F%2Fhypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2022%2F08%2Fsatisfy-trailism-collection-running-2.jpg?q=75&w=800&cbr=1&fit=max)

that's all

It's painfully obvious in retrospect, but they just went ahead and did a Rapha for running, huh?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: backfliptofiftyfifty on January 13, 2023, 10:35:14 AM
so true! dylan should have dressed like corey duffel!
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Esquivel on January 13, 2023, 10:40:53 AM
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im hijaking this thread


i've decided that this brand, satisfy running, is the running version of dylan

(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/cFDIJPJ6sbxCvuEVs_Bf6nyh6i4=/1600x1067/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/24105441/satisfy-running-trailism-FT.jpg)

shirts with holes!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0524/9024/0175/products/satisfy-running-mothtech-t-shirt-heather-grey-7_1160x.jpg?v=1656888200)


(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/https%3A%2F%2Fhypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2022%2F08%2Fsatisfy-trailism-collection-running-2.jpg?q=75&w=800&cbr=1&fit=max)

that's all
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It's painfully obvious in retrospect, but they just went ahead and did a Rapha for running, huh?

All my clothes used to look like this when I lived in Wales and smoked cheap hash all day.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: manysnakes on January 13, 2023, 10:43:42 AM
Expand Quote
Expand Quote
im hijaking this thread


i've decided that this brand, satisfy running, is the running version of dylan

(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/cFDIJPJ6sbxCvuEVs_Bf6nyh6i4=/1600x1067/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/24105441/satisfy-running-trailism-FT.jpg)

shirts with holes!

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0524/9024/0175/products/satisfy-running-mothtech-t-shirt-heather-grey-7_1160x.jpg?v=1656888200)


(https://image-cdn.hypb.st/https%3A%2F%2Fhypebeast.com%2Fimage%2F2022%2F08%2Fsatisfy-trailism-collection-running-2.jpg?q=75&w=800&cbr=1&fit=max)

that's all
[close]

It's painfully obvious in retrospect, but they just went ahead and did a Rapha for running, huh?
[close]

All my clothes used to look like this when I lived in Wales and smoked cheap hash all day.

Sounds rad.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: twic3 on January 13, 2023, 10:49:41 AM
Its kinda crazy how one guy decision to start shopping at H&M and wear fitted clothes revolutionize skateboarding
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on January 13, 2023, 11:35:37 AM
Dylan didn't invent it, but he DID bring it to skateboarding and he perfected it.

It looked great because he was a tall, slender, beautiful dude.

I'm short, I look like a off season bodybuilder, and would look like absolute garbage in those clothes ...
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Roisto on January 13, 2023, 12:41:19 PM
Personally I'm really looking forward to seeing how it affects the next Tired video that they're not hearing about the "Dylan Outfit" anymore.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Dummklaus on January 13, 2023, 01:00:31 PM
mandatory arne stein mentioning  8)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: j....soy..... on January 13, 2023, 01:15:21 PM
Isn’t everyone just running some incarnation of polar jeans? 
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: quackquack on January 13, 2023, 02:02:49 PM
Am I still allowed to discuss Dylan's Infit, or is that not allowed either?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Urtripping on January 13, 2023, 02:34:33 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fvWRhqM/358c93f0-2cda-42b8-aa58-9220e5c27603-1-7fb24950b8234929b4a63b3eaade2dd2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: McBrandt on January 13, 2023, 02:42:11 PM
There's that guy on Stereo that's really going for the whole dylan thing, he's kind of like a middle class man's arne stein cause he has better skills and a modeling contract.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Watson on January 13, 2023, 02:58:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fvWRhqM/358c93f0-2cda-42b8-aa58-9220e5c27603-1-7fb24950b8234929b4a63b3eaade2dd2.jpg)

Aged Chinese men in Beijing wear this exact outfit when strolling the block at sunset as if it's their pajamas.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: skunty on January 13, 2023, 03:27:50 PM
it is a socially created term, arising from subjective opions of individuals interacting with each other into an idea that is widely recognized by a whole group. it's basically just because dylan was influential, and if you don't feel or see that influence yourself you're not going to grasp it easily by explanation. Easiest way I could put it is that skateboarding at the time had become hesh, fresh, or goofy, and he represented something new that was none of those and was very cool.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: HeapsCool on January 13, 2023, 05:55:22 PM
Honestly singlets are great. Very versatile for throwing a button up shirt over. Our grand dads were onto something.

Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 13, 2023, 06:13:41 PM
How do you all think Dylan would be dressing today?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: livin on a speyer on January 13, 2023, 06:29:39 PM
How do you all think Dylan would be dressing today?
Hesh
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: tadej Pog on January 13, 2023, 06:50:17 PM
How do you all think Dylan would be dressing today?

2005 Wade D cosplay.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: manysnakes on January 14, 2023, 05:48:41 AM
How do you all think Dylan would be dressing today?

(https://media.gq-magazine.co.uk/photos/5ec662e1657c42308f35b4db/master/w_900,c_limit/20200521-dylan-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: marty mcfly on January 14, 2023, 06:10:13 AM
That’s my favorite version of Dylan’s outfit (because grey,or white shoes always look better imo)
I keep calling it Dylan outfit just to piss you off,op…who ever you are
https://youtu.be/eII-LR76jWY
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Pipe Dreamer on January 14, 2023, 06:16:55 AM
Says he is tired of hearing about it, then proceeds to start a new thread about it.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: sluggers on January 14, 2023, 03:21:46 PM
it is a socially created term, arising from subjective opions of individuals interacting with each other into an idea that is widely recognized by a whole group. it's basically just because dylan was influential, and if you don't feel or see that influence yourself you're not going to grasp it easily by explanation. Easiest way I could put it is that skateboarding at the time had become hesh, fresh, or goofy, and he represented something new that was none of those and was very cool.

“Very cool” was definitely not the response to Dylan’s style, kit, and loafer shoes at the time.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 14, 2023, 04:32:33 PM
The thing with that look is that you’d have to win some genetic lottery to pull it off as good as he did.

You need long beautiful legs, thin thighs, no body fat to speak of, but relatively broad shoulders.  The first adjectives which should come to mind when others think of you should be agile, lithe, nimble.  If that does not describe you, don’t even attempt it.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: BootsWithTheFerg on January 14, 2023, 04:53:08 PM
The thing with that look is that you’d have to win some genetic lottery to pull it off as good as he did.

You need long beautiful legs, thin thighs, no body fat to speak of, but relatively broad shoulders.  The first adjectives which should come to mind when others think of you should be agile, lithe, nimble.  If that does not describe you, don’t even attempt it.

He died of lukemia mate. Not exactly the genetic jackpot. He was skin and bones cause he was sick, not because of some Uber strict fitness routine and diet. He could barley eat. He was dying. That's why he looked the way he did. Look at him in time to shine vs when he died and all the in between and you can watch his body deteriorate in real time.


Not that it really matters. Nor is it any disrespect to the terminally ill. But you could get that same physique with a meth addiction or bulimia. His body gave up. He was dying.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: modern life is war on January 14, 2023, 04:55:58 PM
The thing with that look is that you’d have to win some genetic lottery to pull it off as good as he did.

You need long beautiful legs, thin thighs, no body fat to speak of, but relatively broad shoulders.  The first adjectives which should come to mind when others think of you should be agile, lithe, nimble.  If that does not describe you, don’t even attempt it.

*cough* elijah berle
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: dannyprovolone on January 14, 2023, 05:02:18 PM
shouts out to the good homie arne stien
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: landedprimo on January 14, 2023, 05:06:16 PM
This thread makes me want to go clothes shopping
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 14, 2023, 05:24:20 PM
There's that guy on Stereo that's really going for the whole dylan thing, he's kind of like a middle class man's arne stein cause he has better skills and a modeling contract.

Andrey Tarasov


Skated with him back in 2015 as he was residing in Georgia at the time & he was at the local park I was at while I was down visiting relatives. Say what you will but seeing him skate then was wild. Great style, skated fast & wasn’t your typical young kid with no idea.

 I get the dislike for the look or style associated with Dylan. It’s simply not for everyone. I’ve been into the look for awhile myself & it certainly has to also do with playing in bands, getting into printmaking & meeting others who were part of the music scene & art scene. Obviously skating & admiring Dylan too. Love loafers, love tucking my shirt in, all of it. But it’s certainly not a carbon copy. Never was. Just influence from Dylan & many others in the world.

Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything. Not sure if that’s because they don’t actually care or they’re pissed that everyone else has the same DC’s & polar board, polar pants & a Depop account with a similar name.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: ok boomer on January 14, 2023, 05:53:01 PM
In the future, we all will wear Dylan outfits or go straight to jail
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Sizzle on January 14, 2023, 06:13:44 PM
Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything.

Not trying to be funny but where are you skating where people would openly rip on you for a Dylan fit?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 14, 2023, 06:29:26 PM
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Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything.
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Not trying to be funny but where are you skating where people would openly rip on you for a Dylan fit?

I am simply saying in general & referring to some of the posts on here & the comments made in the past.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Sizzle on January 14, 2023, 06:41:45 PM
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Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything.
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Not trying to be funny but where are you skating where people would openly rip on you for a Dylan fit?
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I am simply saying in general & referring to some of the posts on here & the comments made in the past.
Yeah NYC nobody thinks about it negatively I don’t think, every Dylan fit guy tries to skates fast so you gotta respect it
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: switchfakie on January 14, 2023, 08:01:34 PM
have to agree with you, was really confused when gifted hater made his statements about berle & for some reason said that he had too big of a body for that fit. berle looks like any old greaser with that fit
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 14, 2023, 08:18:33 PM
have to agree with you, was really confused when gifted hater made his statements about berle & for some reason said that he had too big of a body for that fit. berle looks like any old greaser with that fit

I remember seeing that & that confirming GH knew nothing outside of skate culture. My friend & I were discussing how this happens when there are any reference made when interacting with some people & they are only skate references or about skate culture. Same with music. Only able to talk about music from skate videos which is just about the saddest thing to hear….
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: jgonzalez on January 14, 2023, 08:37:16 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fvWRhqM/358c93f0-2cda-42b8-aa58-9220e5c27603-1-7fb24950b8234929b4a63b3eaade2dd2.jpg)

When you use your allowance to buy the deck with the F word on it
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Allen. on January 14, 2023, 10:11:35 PM
Really wish I had seen the OG Arne Stein video. It feels like when I missed out on that mid-day Greg Hunt mind field b-roll stream because I was working during the pandemic.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: tuesday on January 15, 2023, 04:59:55 AM
OP is Arne Stein
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: manysnakes on January 15, 2023, 06:05:40 AM
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The thing with that look is that you’d have to win some genetic lottery to pull it off as good as he did.

You need long beautiful legs, thin thighs, no body fat to speak of, but relatively broad shoulders.  The first adjectives which should come to mind when others think of you should be agile, lithe, nimble.  If that does not describe you, don’t even attempt it.
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He died of lukemia mate. Not exactly the genetic jackpot. He was skin and bones cause he was sick, not because of some Uber strict fitness routine and diet. He could barley eat. He was dying. That's why he looked the way he did. Look at him in time to shine vs when he died and all the in between and you can watch his body deteriorate in real time.


Not that it really matters. Nor is it any disrespect to the terminally ill. But you could get that same physique with a meth addiction or bulimia. His body gave up. He was dying.

Actually no, getting cancer doesn’t make you super hot.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: boogs on January 15, 2023, 06:51:41 AM
In the future, we all will wear Dylan outfits or go straight to jail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SvtikTkrM
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Fartknocker415 on January 15, 2023, 07:17:27 AM
Are you kidding me, rieder kit was basically Post-American apparel. Thin t shirts and skinny jeans double cuffed up to flood. He just took out the colors really. Might as well be wearing a deep v in some instances
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: WorldsbestWeedsm0ker on January 15, 2023, 08:03:35 AM
Dylan didn’t wear dickies 874 and wife beaters - he wore black skinny jeans and torn up v necks - different looks , I’d say Dylan’s look was more euro designer vibes then greaser vibes , both looks are stripped down - like no logos on t shirts etc. but the greaser look that Berle goes for is much more LA gangster like the movie “blood in blood out” while Dylan dressed more like a Parisian poet with alcoholism
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mean salto on January 15, 2023, 08:06:38 AM
Dylan wore lots of stuff. He even wore cargo pants at the X games. It's not a big deal
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: WorldsbestWeedsm0ker on January 15, 2023, 08:17:22 AM
Dylan wore lots of stuff. He even wore cargo pants at the X games. It's not a big deal

“It’s not a big deal” we all j debating here - ur tryna make it sound like he didn’t have one super dialed in style - he did and he didn’t dress like “eh I wear lots of stuff” at all he had one of the most specific looks a pro skater has ever had . Also when did he wear cargos? Can’t find evidence anywhere , I’m sure he did though and I wanna see
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mean salto on January 15, 2023, 08:36:57 AM
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Dylan wore lots of stuff. He even wore cargo pants at the X games. It's not a big deal
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“It’s not a big deal” we all j debating here - ur tryna make it sound like he didn’t have one super dialed in style - he did and he didn’t dress like “eh I wear lots of stuff” at all he had one of the most specific looks a pro skater has ever had . Also when did he wear cargos? Can’t find evidence anywhere , I’m sure he did though and I wanna see

https://youtu.be/6rPJ3UrpCzQ
I meant more it's no big deal referring to this style as the Dylan style.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Wienerboy on January 15, 2023, 05:18:33 PM
yuge deal
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: backside_reacharound on January 16, 2023, 01:44:53 AM
he was a legendary cocksman, looked great on the board, and if you try to dress like him you'll just look like a dime store rip-off so don't do it
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Jewel Runner on January 16, 2023, 04:27:22 AM
What about the Austyn Gillette outfit?

Edit: nvm one rocks the v-neck and the other the round neck

(http://blog.side-shore.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TeamHandsome_Austyn_Dylan-620x350.jpg)
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: McBrandt on January 18, 2023, 09:29:26 AM
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There's that guy on Stereo that's really going for the whole dylan thing, he's kind of like a middle class man's arne stein cause he has better skills and a modeling contract.
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Andrey Tarasov


Skated with him back in 2015 as he was residing in Georgia at the time & he was at the local park I was at while I was down visiting relatives. Say what you will but seeing him skate then was wild. Great style, skated fast & wasn’t your typical young kid with no idea.

 I get the dislike for the look or style associated with Dylan. It’s simply not for everyone. I’ve been into the look for awhile myself & it certainly has to also do with playing in bands, getting into printmaking & meeting others who were part of the music scene & art scene. Obviously skating & admiring Dylan too. Love loafers, love tucking my shirt in, all of it. But it’s certainly not a carbon copy. Never was. Just influence from Dylan & many others in the world.

Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything. Not sure if that’s because they don’t actually care or they’re pissed that everyone else has the same DC’s & polar board, polar pants & a Depop account with a similar name.

I'm on your side bro. I watch Andrey's footage and I enjoy seeing people skate in something other than a garbage bag outfit. It's a rarity these days. Let's talk loafers, I need new ones that are similar to Dylan's, like drivers with flat soles don't have the tread going up the heel
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: No Wave Comply on January 20, 2023, 11:22:46 AM
Ethan Fowler wore it before them and I’m sure it wasn’t his idea either.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Lou Strux on January 21, 2023, 04:49:21 PM
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Ethan Fowler wore it before them and I’m sure it wasn’t his idea either.
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Ethan Fowler was just a dime store Neil Young with those sweaters & boot cuts. Even had the shaggy haircut during that time period.
*Chef Boyardee’s kiss*
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: j....soy..... on January 21, 2023, 06:25:45 PM
Someone always does something first but everyone remembers the one who made it popular…..duh…
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: ok boomer on January 22, 2023, 06:25:04 AM
I can’t do a V neck. Makes me feel like the neck is ruined on my shirt and gives me anxiety. So no “the Dylan outfit” for me.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Dooky-shoes on January 22, 2023, 09:03:24 AM
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Ethan Fowler wore it before them and I’m sure it wasn’t his idea either.
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Templeton was running something pretty similar before him. People have and always will wear plain white shirts jeans/dickies and I’m here for it. Classic style that goes well paired with a wooden toy
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Allen. on January 22, 2023, 10:56:55 AM
Listen I’m fucking tired of hearing about
 “czar Nicholas needs to be overthrown” okay?
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 22, 2023, 02:24:19 PM
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There's that guy on Stereo that's really going for the whole dylan thing, he's kind of like a middle class man's arne stein cause he has better skills and a modeling contract.
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Andrey Tarasov


Skated with him back in 2015 as he was residing in Georgia at the time & he was at the local park I was at while I was down visiting relatives. Say what you will but seeing him skate then was wild. Great style, skated fast & wasn’t your typical young kid with no idea.

 I get the dislike for the look or style associated with Dylan. It’s simply not for everyone. I’ve been into the look for awhile myself & it certainly has to also do with playing in bands, getting into printmaking & meeting others who were part of the music scene & art scene. Obviously skating & admiring Dylan too. Love loafers, love tucking my shirt in, all of it. But it’s certainly not a carbon copy. Never was. Just influence from Dylan & many others in the world.

Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything. Not sure if that’s because they don’t actually care or they’re pissed that everyone else has the same DC’s & polar board, polar pants & a Depop account with a similar name.
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I'm on your side bro. I watch Andrey's footage and I enjoy seeing people skate in something other than a garbage bag outfit. It's a rarity these days. Let's talk loafers, I need new ones that are similar to Dylan's, like drivers with flat soles don't have the tread going up the heel

Loafers that I like are/own: https://www.nordstrom.com/s/zanzara-ford-driver-men/6765304?color=BLACK&utm_content=41909276811&utm_term=pla-296893209809&utm_channel=low_nd_shopping_standard&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=674509628&adpos=&creative=158306485123&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&acctid=21700000001689570&dskeywordid=92700050129443446&lid=92700050129443446&ds_s_kwgid=58700005468308379&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007631122&dsproductgroupid=296893209809&product_id=2386895&merchid=1243147&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&locationid=9007442&targetid=pla-296893209809&campaignid=674509628&adgroupid=41909276811&gbraid=0AAAAAD8eAEmoaQu2xRkn0I_idjoBccx9m&gbraid=0AAAAAD8eAEmoaQu2xRkn0I_idjoBccx9m&gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q6vUvbEo6HzGSa9d9v3m2i5iPaQ08iog7NhkAFNtqakGa4ZXbvYLChoCxisQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: McBrandt on January 22, 2023, 02:40:19 PM
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There's that guy on Stereo that's really going for the whole dylan thing, he's kind of like a middle class man's arne stein cause he has better skills and a modeling contract.
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Andrey Tarasov


Skated with him back in 2015 as he was residing in Georgia at the time & he was at the local park I was at while I was down visiting relatives. Say what you will but seeing him skate then was wild. Great style, skated fast & wasn’t your typical young kid with no idea.

 I get the dislike for the look or style associated with Dylan. It’s simply not for everyone. I’ve been into the look for awhile myself & it certainly has to also do with playing in bands, getting into printmaking & meeting others who were part of the music scene & art scene. Obviously skating & admiring Dylan too. Love loafers, love tucking my shirt in, all of it. But it’s certainly not a carbon copy. Never was. Just influence from Dylan & many others in the world.

Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything. Not sure if that’s because they don’t actually care or they’re pissed that everyone else has the same DC’s & polar board, polar pants & a Depop account with a similar name.
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I'm on your side bro. I watch Andrey's footage and I enjoy seeing people skate in something other than a garbage bag outfit. It's a rarity these days. Let's talk loafers, I need new ones that are similar to Dylan's, like drivers with flat soles don't have the tread going up the heel
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Loafers that I like are/own: https://www.nordstrom.com/s/zanzara-ford-driver-men/6765304?color=BLACK&utm_content=41909276811&utm_term=pla-296893209809&utm_channel=low_nd_shopping_standard&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=674509628&adpos=&creative=158306485123&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&acctid=21700000001689570&dskeywordid=92700050129443446&lid=92700050129443446&ds_s_kwgid=58700005468308379&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007631122&dsproductgroupid=296893209809&product_id=2386895&merchid=1243147&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&locationid=9007442&targetid=pla-296893209809&campaignid=674509628&adgroupid=41909276811&gbraid=0AAAAAD8eAEmoaQu2xRkn0I_idjoBccx9m&gbraid=0AAAAAD8eAEmoaQu2xRkn0I_idjoBccx9m&gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q6vUvbEo6HzGSa9d9v3m2i5iPaQ08iog7NhkAFNtqakGa4ZXbvYLChoCxisQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I can’t get with those. Tread goes up the heel and there is nothing over the instep bone. I want these but in suede

MJNY Mens Casual Comfortable Genuine Leather Lightweight Driving Moccasins Classic Fashion Penny Loafer Slip On Breathable Driving Loafer https://a.co/d/20rzbGC
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: fineslime on January 22, 2023, 02:57:42 PM
I always read the title of this thread as a question.

"Tired of hearing about the "Dylan outfit?""

No. It's a great outfit.
Title: Re: Tired of hearing about the "Dylan Outfit"
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on January 22, 2023, 03:07:58 PM
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There's that guy on Stereo that's really going for the whole dylan thing, he's kind of like a middle class man's arne stein cause he has better skills and a modeling contract.
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Andrey Tarasov


Skated with him back in 2015 as he was residing in Georgia at the time & he was at the local park I was at while I was down visiting relatives. Say what you will but seeing him skate then was wild. Great style, skated fast & wasn’t your typical young kid with no idea.

 I get the dislike for the look or style associated with Dylan. It’s simply not for everyone. I’ve been into the look for awhile myself & it certainly has to also do with playing in bands, getting into printmaking & meeting others who were part of the music scene & art scene. Obviously skating & admiring Dylan too. Love loafers, love tucking my shirt in, all of it. But it’s certainly not a carbon copy. Never was. Just influence from Dylan & many others in the world.

Honestly when you see it in the wild or when I go out & skate with my shirt tucked in, no one says a word or at least has the guts to say anything. Not sure if that’s because they don’t actually care or they’re pissed that everyone else has the same DC’s & polar board, polar pants & a Depop account with a similar name.
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I'm on your side bro. I watch Andrey's footage and I enjoy seeing people skate in something other than a garbage bag outfit. It's a rarity these days. Let's talk loafers, I need new ones that are similar to Dylan's, like drivers with flat soles don't have the tread going up the heel
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Loafers that I like are/own: https://www.nordstrom.com/s/zanzara-ford-driver-men/6765304?color=BLACK&utm_content=41909276811&utm_term=pla-296893209809&utm_channel=low_nd_shopping_standard&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=674509628&adpos=&creative=158306485123&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&acctid=21700000001689570&dskeywordid=92700050129443446&lid=92700050129443446&ds_s_kwgid=58700005468308379&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000007631122&dsproductgroupid=296893209809&product_id=2386895&merchid=1243147&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&locationid=9007442&targetid=pla-296893209809&campaignid=674509628&adgroupid=41909276811&gbraid=0AAAAAD8eAEmoaQu2xRkn0I_idjoBccx9m&gbraid=0AAAAAD8eAEmoaQu2xRkn0I_idjoBccx9m&gclid=CjwKCAiA2rOeBhAsEiwA2Pl7Q6vUvbEo6HzGSa9d9v3m2i5iPaQ08iog7NhkAFNtqakGa4ZXbvYLChoCxisQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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I can’t get with those. Tread goes up the heel and there is nothing over the instep bone. I want these but in suede

MJNY Mens Casual Comfortable Genuine Leather Lightweight Driving Moccasins Classic Fashion Penny Loafer Slip On Breathable Driving Loafer https://a.co/d/20rzbGC

Got it. Those aren’t too bad. I have some loafers from that brand but they feel cheap.