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Title: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Tommes on December 02, 2009, 12:49:18 AM
Looks like one of the best Plazas ever!

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Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Bobbito on December 02, 2009, 01:11:49 AM
I dont know if Im the only one to notice but this skate plaza looks way gnarlier than anything in the states/Canada. Where we usually have like a 7 stair or something these dudes have a 12 or however many stairs that is. Double set looks pretty beefy also and the banks are long and tall. Looks fun nonetheless
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 01:19:15 AM
As shitty and overblown and mainstream as skating is getting...at least the world is getting some fucking amazing skateparks out of it.  This place looks sick!!
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: eelbermston on December 02, 2009, 04:55:08 AM
by the photos i never would of known its even a skatepark.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: mooraga on December 02, 2009, 06:50:36 AM
As shitty and overblown and mainstream as skating is getting...at least the world is getting some fucking amazing skateparks out of it.  This place looks sick!!
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Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: rawbertson. on December 02, 2009, 07:13:05 AM
as sick as that is, it sucks how shit like love park cant even exist anymore it gets so blown out and all the ledges get chunked

Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 02, 2009, 07:24:42 AM
you see those trees over there? 
i'd set up my tent right there and never leave.


Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: alrightythen on December 02, 2009, 07:35:08 AM
im really liking those long and not so steep rails. so much flow in that park
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: NickDagger on December 02, 2009, 07:41:41 AM
I'm  sorry, but that is a terrible design. Tons of wasted space, no variety of  obstacles(it looks like everything there is a set of stairs, a rail, or a bank and even in those there is not much variety-most of the stair sets are the same size, the rails are differently shaped but all nearly the same size and even the banks are all about the same) and no flow. It looks like kids will just fly down a bank or stairs, then fly down stairs or a rail.... then walk all the way back up to the top and repeat... all day.

Should make for some really non-robotic sk8rs AMIRTE?


Don't get me wrong, it looks sick for what it is, but look at the pictures, everyone is just kind of standing in the middle of the park, looking confused. I guess if you wanna skate rails and stairs all day you're in heaven.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: rawbertson. on December 02, 2009, 07:49:04 AM
nah it looks like theres other stuff too they didnt get everyything in those photos
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: NickDagger on December 02, 2009, 08:14:28 AM
And then it looks like the one quarterpipe they have there is a giant brick one, with pool coping, that looks to be 60 feet long... why? Why would you make it that long when no one can grind that coping for probably much distance at all, and most people want even be able to learn any tricks on it because it's too big for most to learn on. A much better design would have been to either have multiple quaterpipes of different heights, or if you want the long one, make it where it starts off small and gets bigger as you go along, and use some kind of coping that will actually let you grind for distances.

Atheistically it looks great, and I'd have a lot of fun there, I'm just saying that I bet what you see in the pictures(a handful of dudes ripping and 40-50 standing around with their hands in their pockets) is probably about all you would see here everyday.

Bad design.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Tko788 on December 02, 2009, 09:23:03 AM
have any of you even clicked the link? there's a video showing more of what the park has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jEEYq3O0M
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: kinky john on December 02, 2009, 09:43:08 AM
As shitty and overblown and mainstream as skating is getting...at least the world is getting some fucking amazing skateparks out of it.  This place looks sick!!

agreed, hopefully they'll last a while as well.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: rawbertson. on December 02, 2009, 10:12:38 AM
i would way rather just a couple old dudes ripping and everyone else standing around. see all those kids standing around? those are fucking douche bags who shouldnt even BE at the skate park in the first place. you should master basic skills before going to the skatepark and getting in people's way. if some old fuck can skate it then so should some little kid with no fear. they will learn to skate it or else they can get fucking bent for all i fucking care. id way rather see that quarter pipe design than just some standard cement job. they have those everywhere.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: crest on December 02, 2009, 10:31:16 AM
id be stoked to have this nearby.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Cthulhu! on December 02, 2009, 10:43:57 AM
id be stoked to have this nearby.

Oh for sure. I'd love it if one of these plazas would be built around my area.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 12:19:22 PM
I'm  sorry, but that is a terrible design. Tons of wasted space, no variety of  obstacles(it looks like everything there is a set of stairs, a rail, or a bank and even in those there is not much variety-most of the stair sets are the same size, the rails are differently shaped but all nearly the same size and even the banks are all about the same) and no flow. It looks like kids will just fly down a bank or stairs, then fly down stairs or a rail.... then walk all the way back up to the top and repeat... all day.

Should make for some really non-robotic sk8rs AMIRTE?


Don't get me wrong, it looks sick for what it is, but look at the pictures, everyone is just kind of standing in the middle of the park, looking confused. I guess if you wanna skate rails and stairs all day you're in heaven.

I see your point...but this is the whole skate plaza vs. skate park debate.  I personally enjoy skateparks more (better flow, generally more fun) but skate plazas are built to replicate a street environment.  Street spots not built for skating generally don't have alot of flow.  Obviously they wanted a plaza so that's what they got.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Firebert on December 02, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
you can still flow through that plaza if you have some style
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: MartinLedge on December 02, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
it sucks how shit like love park cant even exist anymore it gets so blown out and all the ledges get chunked
true but its still my favorite spot ive ever skated.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
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I'm  sorry, but that is a terrible design. Tons of wasted space, no variety of  obstacles(it looks like everything there is a set of stairs, a rail, or a bank and even in those there is not much variety-most of the stair sets are the same size, the rails are differently shaped but all nearly the same size and even the banks are all about the same) and no flow. It looks like kids will just fly down a bank or stairs, then fly down stairs or a rail.... then walk all the way back up to the top and repeat... all day.

Should make for some really non-robotic sk8rs AMIRTE?


Don't get me wrong, it looks sick for what it is, but look at the pictures, everyone is just kind of standing in the middle of the park, looking confused. I guess if you wanna skate rails and stairs all day you're in heaven.
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I see your point...but this is the whole skate plaza vs. skate park debate.  I personally enjoy skateparks more (better flow, generally more fun) but skate plazas are built to replicate a street environment.  Street spots not built for skating generally don't have alot of flow.  Obviously they wanted a plaza so that's what they got.
Skateparks are for old people and people that skate contests. Skate plazas are for people that skate street.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: yeah dude! on December 02, 2009, 01:33:33 PM
Wait... do people not consider skate plazas to be skate parks?
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Dcon on December 02, 2009, 01:35:43 PM
that brick QP look so fun..
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Camel Lights on December 02, 2009, 02:03:21 PM
shit looks too gnarly. Pretty sure I would kill myself at this park/plaza/whatever.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: X_x on December 02, 2009, 02:34:39 PM
Wait... do people not consider skate plazas to be skate parks?

I know right.

Same fucking thing at its very basis.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Smurph on December 02, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jEEYq3O0M
Okay, that's it! Somebody needs to regulate and monitor european skateboarding edits. At this stage the only euro edits I'd even consider watching are Antiz and Cliché edits... virtually all the rest can go fuck themselves. There should be a test implemented in order for all Europeans to attain a licence before any of them are allowed to download music/apply this music to skateboarding/upload to the internet.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 02:52:11 PM
That was better than that faggot ass dinosaur jr and animal collective queer shit that most of you lames listen to.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: NickDagger on December 02, 2009, 03:07:15 PM
The video makes it look better than the photos actually.

Street plazas are fine, the point i'm making is the DESIGN is bad.

Look at all the area that is just flat ground. Look at the 20 ft tall bank to ledge that probably no one will skate, look at all the sets of stairs that are the same size.

I'd cum in my jeans if this was built in my town, the point is that it could have been designed much better.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 03:13:17 PM
Skateparks are for old people and people that skate contests. Skate plazas are for people that skate street.

Or for people who like to do more than nollie heel noseslides on ledges...

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Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: zipzinger666 on December 02, 2009, 03:17:20 PM
hehe i know this kid who just moved here from Madrid a few months ago, I wonder if hes bummed that he just left that for 15 degree weather and snow...
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Lurkenstock on December 02, 2009, 06:06:23 PM
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I'm  sorry, but that is a terrible design. Tons of wasted space, no variety of  obstacles(it looks like everything there is a set of stairs, a rail, or a bank and even in those there is not much variety-most of the stair sets are the same size, the rails are differently shaped but all nearly the same size and even the banks are all about the same) and no flow. It looks like kids will just fly down a bank or stairs, then fly down stairs or a rail.... then walk all the way back up to the top and repeat... all day.

Should make for some really non-robotic sk8rs AMIRTE?


Don't get me wrong, it looks sick for what it is, but look at the pictures, everyone is just kind of standing in the middle of the park, looking confused. I guess if you wanna skate rails and stairs all day you're in heaven.
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I see your point...but this is the whole skate plaza vs. skate park debate.  I personally enjoy skateparks more (better flow, generally more fun) but skate plazas are built to replicate a street environment.  Street spots not built for skating generally don't have alot of flow.  Obviously they wanted a plaza so that's what they got.
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Skateparks are for old people and people that skate contests. Skate plazas are for people that skate street.
Wow, for someone who likes to call people out on being haters all the time, you sure sound like one yourself quite often.
I'm an older guy myself and I like both.
Skate plaza, skate park, whatever.
I think every good park should have variety.

Some people like big flowing transition type of stuff, some people like ledge/manny/gap type of stuff.
Ideally there is something for everybody at a good park, why would you want to limit yourself to any one type of terrain?
I'll skate fucking anything, yet you seem to be so anti everything that isn't 100 percent tech and street oriented.
Why is that?
Not trying to instigate, just genuinely curious.

I mean you should skate whatever it is that you like the most and whatever you are comfortable on, but I think you'd probably be surprised if you opened up your mind a little and just skated other types of stuff other than ledges and mannys or whatever else you seem to exclusively skate in your everyday routine.
You claim to be one of the best if not THE best skateboarder that posts here.
In my eyes the best skaters are the ones that can skate anything and be comfortable on any terrain and rip everything.
Can you honestly say that you are fairly proficient or really good at other types of skating besides stairs, ledge lines, mannys and flatground?
Again, I'm really genuinely curious and I don't wish to get into it with you even if you think this sounds like it.

By the way I was wondering how old old is when you say that skateparks are for old people.
I know you're a younger dude yourself, but seriously, what's old to you?
20? 25? 30? 35? 40?
Again, not trying to be a dick, so relax, I am only curious as to how you arrive at some of the things you post.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 02, 2009, 08:12:33 PM
skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     



anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   


Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: TheFreshSC on December 02, 2009, 08:13:55 PM
looks like a lot of fun, but i probably would end up skating the flat ledge and ledge to drop all day. the plaza is burly
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 08:57:40 PM
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I'm  sorry, but that is a terrible design. Tons of wasted space, no variety of  obstacles(it looks like everything there is a set of stairs, a rail, or a bank and even in those there is not much variety-most of the stair sets are the same size, the rails are differently shaped but all nearly the same size and even the banks are all about the same) and no flow. It looks like kids will just fly down a bank or stairs, then fly down stairs or a rail.... then walk all the way back up to the top and repeat... all day.

Should make for some really non-robotic sk8rs AMIRTE?


Don't get me wrong, it looks sick for what it is, but look at the pictures, everyone is just kind of standing in the middle of the park, looking confused. I guess if you wanna skate rails and stairs all day you're in heaven.
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I see your point...but this is the whole skate plaza vs. skate park debate.  I personally enjoy skateparks more (better flow, generally more fun) but skate plazas are built to replicate a street environment.  Street spots not built for skating generally don't have alot of flow.  Obviously they wanted a plaza so that's what they got.
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Skateparks are for old people and people that skate contests. Skate plazas are for people that skate street.
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Wow, for someone who likes to call people out on being haters all the time, you sure sound like one yourself quite often.
I'm an older guy myself and I like both.
Skate plaza, skate park, whatever.
I think every good park should have variety.

Some people like big flowing transition type of stuff, some people like ledge/manny/gap type of stuff.
Ideally there is something for everybody at a good park, why would you want to limit yourself to any one type of terrain?
I'll skate fucking anything, yet you seem to be so anti everything that isn't 100 percent tech and street oriented.
Why is that?
Not trying to instigate, just genuinely curious.

I mean you should skate whatever it is that you like the most and whatever you are comfortable on, but I think you'd probably be surprised if you opened up your mind a little and just skated other types of stuff other than ledges and mannys or whatever else you seem to exclusively skate in your everyday routine.
You claim to be one of the best if not THE best skateboarder that posts here.
In my eyes the best skaters are the ones that can skate anything and be comfortable on any terrain and rip everything.
Can you honestly say that you are fairly proficient or really good at other types of skating besides stairs, ledge lines, mannys and flatground?
Again, I'm really genuinely curious and I don't wish to get into it with you even if you think this sounds like it.

By the way I was wondering how old old is when you say that skateparks are for old people.
I know you're a younger dude yourself, but seriously, what's old to you?
20? 25? 30? 35? 40?
Again, not trying to be a dick, so relax, I am only curious as to how you arrive at some of the things you post.

People that "skate everything" are lame, because they're mediocre at all the aspects usually, Jack of all trades master of none. That shits lame. Until there are more kids like langi and ben hatchell that are actually decent at all the aspects of skating, it means nothing.

as far as old goes, when you're around 25 you should start transitioning into skating transition, so when you're truly old(in skateboarding) like 30+ you can go to channel street or something and not get laughed at by the young kids.
skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     



anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   




What's funny is that you're preaching consistency, but you would say people like mike mo, p-rod and shane are "boring", and they're the most consistent. For the record, most of the main kids i see at both wilmington and the la plaza(including myself) are consistent as fuck. Skateparks in general make you consistent, it's just people are consistent at different stuff. A kid that goes to a plaza is probably consistent at doing tricks down stairs, where as a kid that goes to skateparks that just have/are mostly transition is probably consistent at 360 fly outs.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 09:51:09 PM
People that "skate everything" are lame

That statement pretty much negates anything you ever have to say.  I don't think more ignorant or idiotic words could be said.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 09:52:35 PM
I like how you took it out of context, idiot.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: TheFreshSC on December 02, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
^^ COTG, lets skate sometime. i'll probably go skate LA plaza this weekend
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 10:18:27 PM
I like how you took it out of context, idiot.

No...because even in context your point just isn't true.  Skateboarding isn't a contest.  It's about having fun on your board.  The more different aspects of skating you learn, the more you can enjoy yourself in any situation you find yourself.

Also...learning to 5-0 in a bowl will only make your 5-0's on a ledge better and more controlled.  And vice versa.  Everything you learn on a skateboard will give you more board control and make you better overall.  I spent a good year skating mainly transition and had a blast.  This summer I started really pushing myself to skate more ledges and rails and found alot of tech tricks I hadn't tried in a couple years came to me much easier.  I have alot more board control now because I spent awhile skating fast and doing basic tricks on big transition.  Every single style of skating is as important as any other.  P.Rod isn't better than Tony Trujillo...but Tony's not better than P.Rod.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 10:26:46 PM
^^ COTG, lets skate sometime. i'll probably go skate LA plaza this weekend
I hate that place. Go to wilmington.

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I like how you took it out of context, idiot.
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No...because even in context your point just isn't true.  Skateboarding isn't a contest.  It's about having fun on your board.  The more different aspects of skating you learn, the more you can enjoy yourself in any situation you find yourself.

Also...learning to 5-0 in a bowl will only make your 5-0's on a ledge better and more controlled.  And vice versa.  Everything you learn on a skateboard will give you more board control and make you better overall.  I spent a good year skating mainly transition and had a blast.  This summer I started really pushing myself to skate more ledges and rails and found alot of tech tricks I hadn't tried in a couple years came to me much easier.  I have alot more board control now because I spent awhile skating fast and doing basic tricks on big transition.  Every single style of skating is as important as any other.  P.Rod isn't better than Tony Trujillo...but Tony's not better than P.Rod.
How is it not true. I said most of those niggas are jack of all trades masters of none, and you named one(tony trujillo). Someone that skates vert could come and do 90% of the shit tony trujillo does like nothing, and find someone that skates street and you'll get the same results. Basking in mediocrity is not cool.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 10:46:58 PM
Basking in mediocrity is not cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBz_o0C8-5M

Need I say more??
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 10:50:23 PM
If you compared a like level of the shit you're doing on transition i guarantee it's lower level than that. You also can't do any of those tricks, where as i can do all of those tricks cruising around.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 10:51:24 PM
Look at the comments.    ;D
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 02, 2009, 11:01:18 PM
Ahhhhhh COTG...you're missing my whole point.  You're line was decent, you have good style, but by professional skateboarding standards it was VERY MEDIOCRE.  I'm saying skating is about fun so who gives a shit?  You're saying mediocre skating is wack...so taking your own words into consideration, maybe you should quit since you aren't busting hammers down 16 stairs.

You're the one who claims to be "better than everyone on Slap."  I never claimed to be anything.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: VictoriousOG on December 02, 2009, 11:04:14 PM
This is great, since I'll be going to Spain this summer.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 11:05:24 PM
I'm glad you're judging someone that isn't a pro skateboarder on pro skateboarder standards. That's the difference. Me comparing tony t to other pros is totally different. Also, if you seen the shit i was capable of now you wouldn't be saying it's mediocre, by any standard. Actually that line isn't even mediocre, I've seen pros do less, and it probably took them longer.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: busey on December 02, 2009, 11:10:27 PM
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Basking in mediocrity is not cool.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBz_o0C8-5M

Need I say more??
not to boost anyone's ego but you can't deny that's a sick line.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: TheFreshSC on December 02, 2009, 11:21:49 PM
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Basking in mediocrity is not cool.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBz_o0C8-5M

Need I say more??
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not to boost anyone's ego but you can't deny that's a sick line.

real talk
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: pushdaily on December 02, 2009, 11:37:03 PM
homedude was stiffer than a new pair of jeans... do yourself a favor get some looser style and clothing.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 02, 2009, 11:38:26 PM
homedude was stiffer than a new pair of jeans... do yourself a favor get some looser style and clothing.
Sorry my style wasn't fake enough for you.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: pushdaily on December 02, 2009, 11:49:27 PM
its ok! put a lil more effort into it and maybe ill like ya 
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: TheFreshSC on December 02, 2009, 11:56:54 PM
COTG, i'll do my best to get to wilmington this weekend if you're down to skate.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Lurkenstock on December 03, 2009, 12:19:07 AM
Okay COTG, you said

"People that "skate everything" are lame, because they're mediocre at all the aspects usually, Jack of all trades master of none. That shits lame. Until there are more kids like langi and ben hatchell that are actually decent at all the aspects of skating, it means nothing.

as far as old goes, when you're around 25 you should start transitioning into skating transition, so when you're truly old(in skateboarding) like 30+ you can go to channel street or something and not get laughed at by the young kids."


I see.
So I guess it's safe to say that you're not a fan of guys like Keegan, McCrank or Rattray for example, or even Daewon or Haslam, because all of those guys "skate everything" and they are pretty fucking far from mediocre.
Or were you just talking about regular Joes that aren't pros?
Yeah, because then there are guys out there (like me) that aren't exactly shredders on everything or even one specific thing for that matter, but aren't fucking slouches at them either.
Maybe it's just me then, I'd rather be at least decent and somewhat proficient on almost everything instead of just being really, really good at just one specific style of skating, and not having a fucking clue at others.
It just opens you up to enjoy more shit and no matter where you end up sessioning, you'll be fine and not completely fucking lost and not able to do jack shit in certain situations.

As far as what you think about age, that's pretty crazy but I didn't expect much different.
I'm guessing you're like 20-21, around there right?
Are you telling me that in 4 or 5 years you're going to be moving out of the streets and concentrating on skating transitions?
Really?
And 30+ is truly old?
Do you have any idea how many fucking ridiculously good pros out there are 30+?
I'm just saying, pro or not, not everybody that age or older is a bowl barney that can't 360 flip or nollie heel, you do realize that is possible don't you?

Anyway, I just fail to see how people would want to limit themselves like that.
You should be stoked, you have a bunch of good parks in L.A., why only skate Wilmington or the LA plaza when just off the top of my head there's Culver, Hawthorne, and the new Venice park too? I'm sure there's more.
I've been to Wilmington a couple of times, it was okay. I had fun there but I wouldn't want to stay there all day. Why not at least mix it up now and then, step out of your comfort zone?

Just a suggestion, don't trip.
I'm sure you'll have something to say but that's part of what makes this all so fun.
Later.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 12:59:25 AM
Okay COTG, you said

"People that "skate everything" are lame, because they're mediocre at all the aspects usually, Jack of all trades master of none. That shits lame. Until there are more kids like langi and ben hatchell that are actually decent at all the aspects of skating, it means nothing.

as far as old goes, when you're around 25 you should start transitioning into skating transition, so when you're truly old(in skateboarding) like 30+ you can go to channel street or something and not get laughed at by the young kids."


I see.
So I guess it's safe to say that you're not a fan of guys like Keegan, McCrank or Rattray for example, or even Daewon or Haslam, because all of those guys "skate everything" and they are pretty fucking far from mediocre.
Or were you just talking about regular Joes that aren't pros?
Yeah, because then there are guys out there (like me) that aren't exactly shredders on everything or even one specific thing for that matter, but aren't fucking slouches at them either.
Maybe it's just me then, I'd rather be at least decent and somewhat proficient on almost everything instead of just being really, really good at just one specific style of skating, and not having a fucking clue at others.
It just opens you up to enjoy more shit and no matter where you end up sessioning, you'll be fine and not completely fucking lost and not able to do jack shit in certain situations.

As far as what you think about age, that's pretty crazy but I didn't expect much different.
I'm guessing you're like 20-21, around there right?
Are you telling me that in 4 or 5 years you're going to be moving out of the streets and concentrating on skating transitions?
Really?
And 30+ is truly old?
Do you have any idea how many fucking ridiculously good pros out there are 30+?
I'm just saying, pro or not, not everybody that age or older is a bowl barney that can't 360 flip or nollie heel, you do realize that is possible don't you?

Anyway, I just fail to see how people would want to limit themselves like that.
You should be stoked, you have a bunch of good parks in L.A., why only skate Wilmington or the LA plaza when just off the top of my head there's Culver, Hawthorne, and the new Venice park too? I'm sure there's more.
I've been to Wilmington a couple of times, it was okay. I had fun there but I wouldn't want to stay there all day. Why not at least mix it up now and then, step out of your comfort zone?

Just a suggestion, don't trip.
I'm sure you'll have something to say but that's part of what makes this all so fun.
Later.
Why would i not be a fan of daewon, or to a lesser extent haslam? They're actually amazing at street skating. Those other dudes are whatever. They're not killing at street, and they're not killing at transition, they're just doing regular shit. Doing a bunch of regular shit all the time is lame. I want to see some amazing shit whether I'm watching someone skate street, vert, transition whatever.

I'm not saying as soon as you turn 25 just stop skating street and skate transition exclusively. I'm just saying when you're around that age if you're skating 3 hours a day skate 30 minutes of transition and gradually add more time to the transition as you get older. That way when you're 30 something you can go chill with all the other old people at channel street and not stink it up. Yes, 30 is the very start of oldness when you're doing physical activity.
You're still relatively young in the real world, but in skateboarding, or any other physical activity(except golf or something) you're old.

I honestly don't see how I'm "limiting" myself. Choosing to skate where i want isn't limiting myself. Wilmington has everything that i like skating in the same spot. It has ledges, a flatbar, stairs with a baby rail, and even fake transition. That's basically all the aspects of street skating in one place. Never crowded, and one of the only places where mexicans don't kill black people.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: GnarlesManson on December 03, 2009, 01:00:58 AM
so,um, skateboardings pretty tight
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: kilgore. on December 03, 2009, 01:07:20 AM
COTG>OLD PEOPLE
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: The Mess on December 03, 2009, 01:19:04 AM
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Basking in mediocrity is not cool.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBz_o0C8-5M

Need I say more??
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not to boost anyone's ego but you can't deny that's a sick line.

it's malcolm watson circa gumbo.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 01:22:17 AM
it's malcolm watson circa gumbo.
I think it's time for you to put the blunt down.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: The Mess on December 03, 2009, 01:25:28 AM
it did cross my mind. but now i'm watching malcolm manhandle usc in that part. thanks.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: vihreekerma on December 03, 2009, 02:42:13 AM
That Madrid place looks cool! I will probably go there sometime...  Btw Sick line cotg! 
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on December 03, 2009, 03:27:24 AM
If Tony Trujillo is mediocre and TK has 'stee' then I don't know what to think anymore...
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jacquesknife on December 03, 2009, 03:34:34 AM
Good or bad design, it still looks to have some awesome features. Having brick banks looks so much fun.

Whether you think it's the greatest laid out park or not, you are still gonna skate it and make it fun. Street skating in general is about making the most of what is around so just apply it to that.

Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: EricLogan on December 03, 2009, 04:45:34 AM
Look at the comments.    ;D

double face-palming so hard right now
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 03, 2009, 06:05:52 AM
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skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     

anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   

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What's funny is that you're preaching consistency, but you would say people like mike mo, p-rod and shane are "boring", and they're the most consistent. For the record, most of the main kids i see at both wilmington and the la plaza(including myself) are consistent as fuck. Skateparks in general make you consistent, it's just people are consistent at different stuff. A kid that goes to a plaza is probably consistent at doing tricks down stairs, where as a kid that goes to skateparks that just have/are mostly transition is probably consistent at 360 fly outs.

mike mo is good at skating perfect set up spots and thats it.  he couldn't throwdown at the brooklyn banks, he couldn't throwdown at manny mania.  instead that chump stayed using tampons for his leaky vagina.  just say no to mike mo.
p-rod aka captain yawn skates like a handicapped snail on xanax.  hes put me into a coma several times with his slowboarding parts.  i'm not saying prod sucks, i'm saying hes boring to watch.
i dont know who this shane guy is so i'm not going to comment on him, but if you like him i probably won't.     

its funny how you say you want to make it in skateboarding but you limit yourself to a couple of aspect of it.  kids are always asking me, "how do i get sponsored, how do i get noticed?  and my answer has always been the same, don't limit yourself, learn to skate everything and have fun doing it.
you hate on the dudes doing their own thing but stair/rail/ledge kids are a dime a dozen these days so why would anyone notice you?  why would anyone care?
you say skateparks are lame but if you get flow/am/pro status, you're going to be doing demos at skateparks.  you really think the team manager is going to be happy watching you skate flatground and a box the whole time?   

imagine you got on a company and you go to your first demo and all you're doing is fliptricks and ledge tricks.  then mike v(who i know you can't stand) shows up and starts flying all over the place doing his "cornball" tricks". 
who do you think the kids are going to remember?  COTG, the guy who skates like everyone else in town? or mike v the guy who skates like nobody else they'd ever seen? 
its going to be mike v 10 out of 10 times. he'll stay selling more boards than you, sign more autographs than you, get more kids hyped on skating than you and make more of a lasting impression than you.  the dude you hate so much, the dude you think sucks so bad, we'll be remember long after you've been forgotten.  think about that. 




Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jacquesknife on December 03, 2009, 06:23:11 AM
Totally! So many skate videos now are just slight variations of the same old tricks and lines, and although they are tech as fuck, they soon fade from memory. How many sets of stairs have you seen flipped?!!

However, I will always remember the sort of shit Mike V does (wack or not).
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Beeda Weeda on December 03, 2009, 06:41:40 AM
I think we can all agree that arguing with COTG is pointless, he's the best skater to post on slap, none of us are any good.
I mean seriously, he did a nollie heel flip noseslide, and a noseslide nollieheel out....you guys need to stop fucking around and eaccept him as our king.
Scott Pazelt would be proud.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 07:19:52 AM
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skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     

anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   

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What's funny is that you're preaching consistency, but you would say people like mike mo, p-rod and shane are "boring", and they're the most consistent. For the record, most of the main kids i see at both wilmington and the la plaza(including myself) are consistent as fuck. Skateparks in general make you consistent, it's just people are consistent at different stuff. A kid that goes to a plaza is probably consistent at doing tricks down stairs, where as a kid that goes to skateparks that just have/are mostly transition is probably consistent at 360 fly outs.
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mike mo is good at skating perfect set up spots and thats it.  he couldn't throwdown at the brooklyn banks, he couldn't throwdown at manny mania.  instead that chump stayed using tampons for his leaky vagina.  just say no to mike mo.
p-rod aka captain yawn skates like a handicapped snail on xanax.  hes put me into a coma several times with his slowboarding parts.  i'm not saying prod sucks, i'm saying hes boring to watch.
i dont know who this shane guy is so i'm not going to comment on him, but if you like him i probably won't.     

its funny how you say you want to make it in skateboarding but you limit yourself to a couple of aspect of it.  kids are always asking me, "how do i get sponsored, how do i get noticed?  and my answer has always been the same, don't limit yourself, learn to skate everything and have fun doing it.
you hate on the dudes doing their own thing but stair/rail/ledge kids are a dime a dozen these days so why would anyone notice you?  why would anyone care?
you say skateparks are lame but if you get flow/am/pro status, you're going to be doing demos at skateparks.  you really think the team manager is going to be happy watching you skate flatground and a box the whole time?   

imagine you got on a company and you go to your first demo and all you're doing is fliptricks and ledge tricks.  then mike v(who i know you can't stand) shows up and starts flying all over the place doing his "cornball" tricks". 
who do you think the kids are going to remember?  COTG, the guy who skates like everyone else in town? or mike v the guy who skates like nobody else they'd ever seen? 
its going to be mike v 10 out of 10 times. he'll stay selling more boards than you, sign more autographs than you, get more kids hyped on skating than you and make more of a lasting impression than you.  the dude you hate so much, the dude you think sucks so bad, we'll be remember long after you've been forgotten.  think about that. 





Mike mo came in 3rd at manny mania, and brooklyn banks is the gayest spot on earth for the record. I'm not limiting myself, I'm skating the way i like skating. I can guarantee if someone came in here and said they didn't skate stairs and rails, or didn't skate street all together you wouldn't say they were limiting themselves, you would say some gay shit about being "unique", and "raw".

As far as "doing their own thing" none of the dudes you like are "doing their own thing". If combo tricks, no complys, and fake transition is popular at the time, you're not "doing your own thing" you're skating exactly like everyone else, but for some reason (i guess because the tricks are gayer) these people think they're "different" or "creative".

The only reason people remeber mike v is because it's hard to forget something that's hysterically funny to watch.
I think we can all agree that arguing with COTG is pointless, he's the best skater to post on slap, none of us are any good.
I mean seriously, he did a nollie heel flip noseslide, and a noseslide nollieheel out....you guys need to stop fucking around and eaccept him as our king.
Scott Pazelt would be proud.

8)
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 03, 2009, 07:44:35 AM
and brooklyn banks is the gayest spot on earth for the record.

Nice comeback there pal.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Beeda Weeda on December 03, 2009, 07:46:24 AM
COTG IS THE BEST SKATEBOARDER EVA, AND YOU KNOW ITS TRUE CAUSE I AM TYPIGN IN CAPS!
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: rawbertson. on December 03, 2009, 07:49:30 AM
i dont know man i learned nollie heelflip last night i think i am comin up in the ranks on slap
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: jeremyrandall on December 03, 2009, 07:55:16 AM
i dont know man i learned nollie heelflip last night i think i am comin up in the ranks on slap

Just learn em into noseslides and you'll be "a good skateboarder."  Cause we all know nollie heel noseslides are what separate good skateboarders from the shitty ones.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 07:56:08 AM
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i dont know man i learned nollie heelflip last night i think i am comin up in the ranks on slap
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Just learn em into noseslides and you'll be "a good skateboarder."  Cause we all know nollie heel noseslides are what separate good skateboarders from the shitty ones."
Now you're coming around.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 03, 2009, 08:03:28 AM
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skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     

anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   

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What's funny is that you're preaching consistency, but you would say people like mike mo, p-rod and shane are "boring", and they're the most consistent. For the record, most of the main kids i see at both wilmington and the la plaza(including myself) are consistent as fuck. Skateparks in general make you consistent, it's just people are consistent at different stuff. A kid that goes to a plaza is probably consistent at doing tricks down stairs, where as a kid that goes to skateparks that just have/are mostly transition is probably consistent at 360 fly outs.
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mike mo is good at skating perfect set up spots and thats it.  he couldn't throwdown at the brooklyn banks, he couldn't throwdown at manny mania.  instead that chump stayed using tampons for his leaky vagina.  just say no to mike mo.
p-rod aka captain yawn skates like a handicapped snail on xanax.  hes put me into a coma several times with his slowboarding parts.  i'm not saying prod sucks, i'm saying hes boring to watch.
i dont know who this shane guy is so i'm not going to comment on him, but if you like him i probably won't.     

its funny how you say you want to make it in skateboarding but you limit yourself to a couple of aspect of it.  kids are always asking me, "how do i get sponsored, how do i get noticed?  and my answer has always been the same, don't limit yourself, learn to skate everything and have fun doing it.
you hate on the dudes doing their own thing but stair/rail/ledge kids are a dime a dozen these days so why would anyone notice you?  why would anyone care?
you say skateparks are lame but if you get flow/am/pro status, you're going to be doing demos at skateparks.  you really think the team manager is going to be happy watching you skate flatground and a box the whole time?   

imagine you got on a company and you go to your first demo and all you're doing is fliptricks and ledge tricks.  then mike v(who i know you can't stand) shows up and starts flying all over the place doing his "cornball" tricks". 
who do you think the kids are going to remember?  COTG, the guy who skates like everyone else in town? or mike v the guy who skates like nobody else they'd ever seen? 
its going to be mike v 10 out of 10 times. he'll stay selling more boards than you, sign more autographs than you, get more kids hyped on skating than you and make more of a lasting impression than you.  the dude you hate so much, the dude you think sucks so bad, we'll be remember long after you've been forgotten.  think about that. 





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Mike mo came in 3rd at manny mania, and brooklyn banks is the gayest spot on earth for the record. I'm not limiting myself, I'm skating the way i like skating. I can guarantee if someone came in here and said they didn't skate stairs and rails, or didn't skate street all together you wouldn't say they were limiting themselves, you would say some gay shit about being "unique", and "raw".

As far as "doing their own thing" none of the dudes you like are "doing their own thing". If combo tricks, no complys, and fake transition is popular at the time, you're not "doing your own thing" you're skating exactly like everyone else, but for some reason (i guess because the tricks are gayer) these people think they're "different" or "creative".

The only reason people remeber mike v is because it's hard to forget something that's hysterically funny to watch.

lets be clear, mike mo he did not earn it.  i was there, he landed 1 memorable trick, halfcab flip backside flip out and he only landed it once.   that was pretty much it, while other dudes were landing mad shit and got no love whatsoever.  he got money because the judges were stacked in his favor, and thats the ultimate gay shit if you ask me.        
just like chico won the previous year because koston was judging.  i love chico as much as the next guy but he didn't land shit and walked away with $$$.   thats another reason why i stopped respecting koston as a person.  contests are just a way for whoevers friend to make extra cash without actually earning it, and that shit is lame as fuck.

and when have i commented on what/who i like?  i like all skateboarding.  stair/rail/fliptricks skaters only bother me if thats the only thing in their part.  i don't care on way or the other what someone is doing(lame trendy tricks or otherwsie) as long as they're not boring to watch. 

p-rod doing flip tricks down stairs, skating rails and getting tech on ledges is old already.  he did it the city stars video(his best part to date AFAIC) and should have moved onto something else.  i'd be stoked if he put out some miniramp footage but no, he puts out the same parts doing the same tricks going slow as hell, thats why i find him uninteresting to watch.  its the same deal with mike mo or anyone else who does the same thing all the time, its fuckin lame.

its cool, i know i'll never learn nollieflip noseslides and be awesome like you.  i don't have to because at the end of the day, i'll always have more fun than you.  you can continue to look at skateboarding with a jocks perspective, thats your thing, being the best and thats all that matters.   


     
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: EricLogan on December 03, 2009, 08:17:21 AM
nollie heel noses on flat ledges suck
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: rawbertson. on December 03, 2009, 08:29:43 AM
you know how that guy said "kids at skate plazas only get 1 trick per day"
thats regular
if anything i just see kids putting down more and more insane shit than ever before
our park got this brand new bowl and its all BMX, and old guys, and a few kook little kids that sakte it
then we have a "street" section which is pretty wack. its like a table top, a stair case with hubbas and handrail, and a pyramid hip, and like 1 flat ledge. its real lame. id way rather have the straight up street plaza like they have in the city 1 town over.

i see this one kid who used to be a nobody (not the guys in the videos)
then they built this fucking amazing plaza in their city
and now i seen this guy hanging out there with his girlfriend who skates (lol) but he is fucking destroying that shit daily
he does kicfklip bs nosegrind like every try on these gnarly ass ledge-to-drops
3 flips up the stairs in the line too
so much nuts shit on command
all these kids who skate there are fucking so much better than everyone else now

www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11-CYvteow

http://www.newlineskateparks.com/Video/?v=24

Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Sleazy on December 03, 2009, 08:38:02 AM
anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   

that's pretty much how i skate

it's kind of weird for me though because i don't really fit in with the barney guys, they will make "street skater" comments to me from time to time and i actually try new tricks and fall. some guys i know call me the street geezer. but with the kids it's the opposite like i'm this tranny only guy. but the truth is that i just like to skate everything except things that are so big that i don't want to mess with the slam because i will slam because i get bored with doing the same old same old safe shit. i don't film, i'm not trying to get sponsored and like lurk said, i like to be able to skate whatever and not be limited. so i don't skate 13 foot tranny and i don't skate 13 stair drops. but i'll skate a little drop and i'll skate a 5 foot tight tranny with a foot of vert on it.

but i think COTG should skate what he's into, that line was sick and it sounds like he's heading for a similar path to what i took. do as good as you can while you can and when you get older if it's not your career you mellow out a bit. except i don't think you have to limit yourself to just transition. transition can be gnarlier than street. you just at some point have to mellow out and stop breaking yourself off on gnarly shit.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 03, 2009, 08:43:34 AM
who said 1 trick per day?  i said its a one trick set up spot to film at.  please learn to read.

the video you posted shows exactly what i'm talking about.  he had two 2 trick lines(i consider 4 tricks or more an actual line, sorry i have higher standards) and the rest was him doing 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick.  its good but its beat and only proves my point.  if he did those tricks in 1 line, i'd give him mad props,  right now hes getting a "meh" rating from me because its impossible for me to tell if he did it first try or 50th try.

i've said this in the past many times, i enjoy everyones skating but i will not give anyone respect until i see them skate in person.
video clips/parts only tells me you got a filmer with a camera, nothing more.   
    


Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Sleazy on December 03, 2009, 08:51:05 AM
i get what your saying faster but i'm sure even booze puts quite a few tries into his lines when he's filming. and when i'm trying something new i'll try it a billion times in a row. sure if i land it i keep going but that's just part of learning something.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 03, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
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anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   
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that's pretty much how i skate

it's kind of weird for me though because i don't really fit in with the barney guys, they will make "street skater" comments to me from time to time and i actually try new tricks and fall. some guys i know call me the street geezer. but with the kids it's the opposite like i'm this tranny only guy. but the truth is that i just like to skate everything except things that are so big that i don't want to mess with the slam because i will slam because i get bored with doing the same old same old safe shit. i don't film, i'm not trying to get sponsored and like lurk said, i like to be able to skate whatever and not be limited. so i don't skate 13 foot tranny and i don't skate 13 stair drops. but i'll skate a little drop and i'll skate a 5 foot tight tranny with a foot of vert on it.


sometimes the old man throws down when i'm feeling it, sometimes i'm content doing ollies all day.  as far as the younger kids that talk shit on me, the majority of them are going to quit anyway so their opinion means nothing to me.  the only way it would bother me is if some lifer came up talking shit but that would never happen because lifers don't give a shit about what you're doing or not doing, they only care that you're still doing it and having fun doing it.      

thats the difference between the older generation and newer.  
old dudes don't care and young dudes care too much.


Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 08:56:50 AM
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skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     

anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   

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What's funny is that you're preaching consistency, but you would say people like mike mo, p-rod and shane are "boring", and they're the most consistent. For the record, most of the main kids i see at both wilmington and the la plaza(including myself) are consistent as fuck. Skateparks in general make you consistent, it's just people are consistent at different stuff. A kid that goes to a plaza is probably consistent at doing tricks down stairs, where as a kid that goes to skateparks that just have/are mostly transition is probably consistent at 360 fly outs.
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mike mo is good at skating perfect set up spots and thats it.  he couldn't throwdown at the brooklyn banks, he couldn't throwdown at manny mania.  instead that chump stayed using tampons for his leaky vagina.  just say no to mike mo.
p-rod aka captain yawn skates like a handicapped snail on xanax.  hes put me into a coma several times with his slowboarding parts.  i'm not saying prod sucks, i'm saying hes boring to watch.
i dont know who this shane guy is so i'm not going to comment on him, but if you like him i probably won't.     

its funny how you say you want to make it in skateboarding but you limit yourself to a couple of aspect of it.  kids are always asking me, "how do i get sponsored, how do i get noticed?  and my answer has always been the same, don't limit yourself, learn to skate everything and have fun doing it.
you hate on the dudes doing their own thing but stair/rail/ledge kids are a dime a dozen these days so why would anyone notice you?  why would anyone care?
you say skateparks are lame but if you get flow/am/pro status, you're going to be doing demos at skateparks.  you really think the team manager is going to be happy watching you skate flatground and a box the whole time?   

imagine you got on a company and you go to your first demo and all you're doing is fliptricks and ledge tricks.  then mike v(who i know you can't stand) shows up and starts flying all over the place doing his "cornball" tricks". 
who do you think the kids are going to remember?  COTG, the guy who skates like everyone else in town? or mike v the guy who skates like nobody else they'd ever seen? 
its going to be mike v 10 out of 10 times. he'll stay selling more boards than you, sign more autographs than you, get more kids hyped on skating than you and make more of a lasting impression than you.  the dude you hate so much, the dude you think sucks so bad, we'll be remember long after you've been forgotten.  think about that. 





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Mike mo came in 3rd at manny mania, and brooklyn banks is the gayest spot on earth for the record. I'm not limiting myself, I'm skating the way i like skating. I can guarantee if someone came in here and said they didn't skate stairs and rails, or didn't skate street all together you wouldn't say they were limiting themselves, you would say some gay shit about being "unique", and "raw".

As far as "doing their own thing" none of the dudes you like are "doing their own thing". If combo tricks, no complys, and fake transition is popular at the time, you're not "doing your own thing" you're skating exactly like everyone else, but for some reason (i guess because the tricks are gayer) these people think they're "different" or "creative".

The only reason people remeber mike v is because it's hard to forget something that's hysterically funny to watch.
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lets be clear, mike mo he did not earn it.  i was there, he landed 1 memorable trick, halfcab flip backside flip out and he only landed it once.   that was pretty much it, while other dudes were landing mad shit and got no love whatsoever.  he got money because the judges were stacked in his favor, and thats the ultimate gay shit if you ask me.        
just like chico won the previous year because koston was judging.  i love chico as much as the next guy but he didn't land shit and walked away with $$$.   thats another reason why i stopped respecting koston as a person.  contests are just a way for whoevers friend to make extra cash without actually earning it, and that shit is lame as fuck.

and when have i commented on what/who i like?  i like all skateboarding.  stair/rail/fliptricks skaters only bother me if thats the only thing in their part.  i don't care on way or the other what someone is doing(lame trendy tricks or otherwsie) as long as they're not boring to watch. 

p-rod doing flip tricks down stairs, skating rails and getting tech on ledges is old already.  he did it the city stars video(his best part to date AFAIC) and should have moved onto something else.  i'd be stoked if he put out some miniramp footage but no, he puts out the same parts doing the same tricks going slow as hell, thats why i find him uninteresting to watch.  its the same deal with mike mo or anyone else who does the same thing all the time, its fuckin lame.

its cool, i know i'll never learn nollieflip noseslides and be awesome like you.  i don't have to because at the end of the day, i'll always have more fun than you.  you can continue to look at skateboarding with a jocks perspective, thats your thing, being the best and thats all that matters.   


     
This is why nothing you say ever has any merit. I can guarantee kerry getz is one of your favorite skates, and he puts out the exact same part for 12 years. P rod doesn't skate slow, there's one line in the nike video where he's going slow, the rest are no push lines where he grinds/slides long as fuck on both tricks, which means you have to be going fast. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Just say you don't like p-rod, because you're a hater. Don't get caught contradicting by fabricating reasons to try and justify your hate.
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anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   
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that's pretty much how i skate

it's kind of weird for me though because i don't really fit in with the barney guys, they will make "street skater" comments to me from time to time and i actually try new tricks and fall. some guys i know call me the street geezer. but with the kids it's the opposite like i'm this tranny only guy. but the truth is that i just like to skate everything except things that are so big that i don't want to mess with the slam because i will slam because i get bored with doing the same old same old safe shit. i don't film, i'm not trying to get sponsored and like lurk said, i like to be able to skate whatever and not be limited. so i don't skate 13 foot tranny and i don't skate 13 stair drops. but i'll skate a little drop and i'll skate a 5 foot tight tranny with a foot of vert on it.

but i think COTG should skate what he's into, that line was sick and it sounds like he's heading for a similar path to what i took. do as good as you can while you can and when you get older if it's not your career you mellow out a bit. except i don't think you have to limit yourself to just transition. transition can be gnarlier than street. you just at some point have to mellow out and stop breaking yourself off on gnarly shit.
This is exactly what I'm saying. Try to rip while you can.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 03, 2009, 09:15:43 AM
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skate plazas are for people who can only throw down 1 trick at a time. 

the whole place is a 1 trick set up spot for people to film at.  thats what street skating has turned into at this point.  its funny how people will do a trick they can land 1 out of 50 tries, film it, then think it means something.  somewhere, somehow, skateboarding forgot the importance of consistency.  now people just throw up a prayer, look completely regular, and hope they roll away while they're being filmed.  its almost like we're going back to the 90s but its worse. 
 
i watched jason dill part in mosiac the other day and the whole part was all lines, no one trick nothing, no lucky bullshit.  he mixed up all types of skating into his lines and all his tricks were done with style and showed his consistency, thats a true pro IMO.  all these one trick ponies with their 1 trick after 1 trick after 1 trick can beat it.  its nothing but a giant snooze fest and i'm fresh out of coffee.     

anyway, the place looks fun.  i would find a way to land as many tricks as possible without stopping.  my goal would be to get a trick(stupid or otherwise) on every little part of that park, then go home and have a beer.   

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What's funny is that you're preaching consistency, but you would say people like mike mo, p-rod and shane are "boring", and they're the most consistent. For the record, most of the main kids i see at both wilmington and the la plaza(including myself) are consistent as fuck. Skateparks in general make you consistent, it's just people are consistent at different stuff. A kid that goes to a plaza is probably consistent at doing tricks down stairs, where as a kid that goes to skateparks that just have/are mostly transition is probably consistent at 360 fly outs.
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mike mo is good at skating perfect set up spots and thats it.  he couldn't throwdown at the brooklyn banks, he couldn't throwdown at manny mania.  instead that chump stayed using tampons for his leaky vagina.  just say no to mike mo.
p-rod aka captain yawn skates like a handicapped snail on xanax.  hes put me into a coma several times with his slowboarding parts.  i'm not saying prod sucks, i'm saying hes boring to watch.
i dont know who this shane guy is so i'm not going to comment on him, but if you like him i probably won't.     

its funny how you say you want to make it in skateboarding but you limit yourself to a couple of aspect of it.  kids are always asking me, "how do i get sponsored, how do i get noticed?  and my answer has always been the same, don't limit yourself, learn to skate everything and have fun doing it.
you hate on the dudes doing their own thing but stair/rail/ledge kids are a dime a dozen these days so why would anyone notice you?  why would anyone care?
you say skateparks are lame but if you get flow/am/pro status, you're going to be doing demos at skateparks.  you really think the team manager is going to be happy watching you skate flatground and a box the whole time?   

imagine you got on a company and you go to your first demo and all you're doing is fliptricks and ledge tricks.  then mike v(who i know you can't stand) shows up and starts flying all over the place doing his "cornball" tricks". 
who do you think the kids are going to remember?  COTG, the guy who skates like everyone else in town? or mike v the guy who skates like nobody else they'd ever seen? 
its going to be mike v 10 out of 10 times. he'll stay selling more boards than you, sign more autographs than you, get more kids hyped on skating than you and make more of a lasting impression than you.  the dude you hate so much, the dude you think sucks so bad, we'll be remember long after you've been forgotten.  think about that. 

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Mike mo came in 3rd at manny mania, and brooklyn banks is the gayest spot on earth for the record. I'm not limiting myself, I'm skating the way i like skating. I can guarantee if someone came in here and said they didn't skate stairs and rails, or didn't skate street all together you wouldn't say they were limiting themselves, you would say some gay shit about being "unique", and "raw".

As far as "doing their own thing" none of the dudes you like are "doing their own thing". If combo tricks, no complys, and fake transition is popular at the time, you're not "doing your own thing" you're skating exactly like everyone else, but for some reason (i guess because the tricks are gayer) these people think they're "different" or "creative".

The only reason people remeber mike v is because it's hard to forget something that's hysterically funny to watch.
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lets be clear, mike mo he did not earn it.  i was there, he landed 1 memorable trick, halfcab flip backside flip out and he only landed it once.   that was pretty much it, while other dudes were landing mad shit and got no love whatsoever.  he got money because the judges were stacked in his favor, and thats the ultimate gay shit if you ask me.        
just like chico won the previous year because koston was judging.  i love chico as much as the next guy but he didn't land shit and walked away with $$$.   thats another reason why i stopped respecting koston as a person.  contests are just a way for whoevers friend to make extra cash without actually earning it, and that shit is lame as fuck.

and when have i commented on what/who i like?  i like all skateboarding.  stair/rail/fliptricks skaters only bother me if thats the only thing in their part.  i don't care on way or the other what someone is doing(lame trendy tricks or otherwsie) as long as they're not boring to watch. 

p-rod doing flip tricks down stairs, skating rails and getting tech on ledges is old already.  he did it the city stars video(his best part to date AFAIC) and should have moved onto something else.  i'd be stoked if he put out some miniramp footage but no, he puts out the same parts doing the same tricks going slow as hell, thats why i find him uninteresting to watch.  its the same deal with mike mo or anyone else who does the same thing all the time, its fuckin lame.

its cool, i know i'll never learn nollieflip noseslides and be awesome like you.  i don't have to because at the end of the day, i'll always have more fun than you.  you can continue to look at skateboarding with a jocks perspective, thats your thing, being the best and thats all that matters.   

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This is why nothing you say ever has any merit. I can guarantee kerry getz is one of your favorite skates, and he puts out the exact same part for 12 years. P rod doesn't skate slow, there's one line in the nike video where he's going slow, the rest are no push lines where he grinds/slides long as fuck on both tricks, which means you have to be going fast. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Just say you don't like p-rod, because you're a hater. Don't get caught contradicting by fabricating reasons to try and justify your hate.

kerry getz is good but hes not my favorite skater by a long shot.  i don't have any favorites outside of the skaters i grew up watching.
p-rod skates slow my man, he just knows how wax a ledge and sit on his tricks.  i never once said i hated p-rod, only that i find his skating boring.  why is that consider hate?
and for the record, theres only 1 skater that i just can't stand and thats TK.
i don't know him personally but whenever i do see him, hes running his mouth and trying to act like hes the shit and that goes for everyone.

its cool my dude, you concentrate on being the best skateboader, i'll continue to settle for mediocrity.


Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Locbrew on December 03, 2009, 10:26:24 AM
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As shitty and overblown and mainstream as skating is getting...at least the world is getting some fucking amazing skateparks out of it.  This place looks sick!!
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Post by: yeah dude! on December 03, 2009, 10:54:52 AM
nollie heel noses on flat ledges suck

 :-[ :-\ :-[ :-\ :-[ :-\ :'(
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Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on December 03, 2009, 11:26:12 AM
are you wearing a spyderbilt shirt in that line COTG?
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Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
Nah that's a skateshop shirt.
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Post by: alrightythen on December 03, 2009, 12:34:04 PM
COTG IS THE BEST SKATEBOARDER EVA, AND YOU KNOW ITS TRUE CAUSE I AM TYPIGN IN CAPS!
hell yeah
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: rawbertson. on December 03, 2009, 12:51:09 PM
paul skates fast enough, ronson lambert, now that fucker goes too slow
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Post by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on December 03, 2009, 01:08:30 PM
Nah that's a skateshop shirt.

They be biters yo

(http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/A87JS/100.jpg)
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Post by: Sleazy on December 03, 2009, 01:13:11 PM
pauls not a power skater and that what i enjoy most on video. so i enjoy his parts but they aren't what i watch to get hyped to go skate because i can't really relate it to how i skate, kind of like a bob burnquest or rodney mullen part.

but watching him skate in person is impressive as fuck and his speed matches real well to his rediculously casual approach to really hard tricks. i've never seen someone destroy a prop like prod did and almost look bored while doing it and never once fall or loose control of his board. it was truely one of the more amazing things i've seen in skating. guys definitely ledgend status in my book. truely amazing skater. but i'd say the same thing about bob or rodney.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Gnarfunkell on December 03, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
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Basking in mediocrity is not cool.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBz_o0C8-5M


dude u got mad buttery ass steeze and every trick u did was perfect beyond teaching
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Post by: GnarlesManson on December 03, 2009, 02:55:28 PM
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Nah that's a skateshop shirt.
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They be biters yo

(http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/A87JS/100.jpg)
its the same company, the "skate shop" is inside a surf shop thats owned by the same people as that.
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Post by: ChildoftheGhetto on December 03, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
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Look at the comments.    ;D
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double face-palming so hard right now
I'm happy no one acknowledged this. I hope you feel like the cornball you are now.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: sirfinbar on December 03, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
I think we should collectively retire "insults based on the fact that COTG did a nollie heel noseslide" because they are stale as fuck and were never all that funny to begin with, maybe I'm just saying that because I can't do that trick? It's funny how hard some posters fail when they really think they're being clever with the insults, he's right about that part.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: 3rd Person Jimmy on December 03, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
I think we should collectively retire "insults based on the fact that COTG did a nollie heel noseslide" because they are stale as fuck and were never all that funny to begin with, maybe I'm just saying that because I can't do that trick? It's funny how hard some posters fail when they really think they're being clever with the insults, he's right about that part.

But Jimmy noticed where you avatar shoud be on why you signed up.
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: NickDagger on December 03, 2009, 04:09:46 PM
Dude COTG has sick style, and I'm not being sarcastic.
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Post by: thugnificent on December 03, 2009, 04:47:03 PM
i've said this in the past many times, i enjoy everyones skating but i will not give anyone respect until i see them skate in person.
video clips/parts only tells me you got a filmer with a camera, nothing more.   

thats because your a homo
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: H8R part 4 on December 03, 2009, 05:18:41 PM
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i've said this in the past many times, i enjoy everyones skating but i will not give anyone respect until i see them skate in person.
video clips/parts only tells me you got a filmer with a camera, nothing more.   
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thats because your a homo


thats almost as good as the your mom, but not quite...
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Beeda Weeda on December 04, 2009, 07:27:00 AM
dude, you are better than most proz
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: frisco on December 04, 2009, 07:37:55 AM
seeing prod skate in person was amazing, I was at the girl/chocolate high fives up the i5 tour at tsawwassen and he killed it, and like Sleazy was saying, looked like he wasnt trying at all and almost looked bored

seeing Russ Milligan skate though is still the most memorable, not because he was doing anything overly insane, but he was extremely consistent, throughout the day there is no way he fell, landing everything so relaxed

im sure seeing any of the dudes that I consider 'boring' (not many) in person, i'd quickly change my mind

Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: gordon bombay on December 04, 2009, 08:21:08 AM
pee rod
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Post by: Gomez on December 05, 2009, 01:21:05 AM
kerry getz is good but hes not my favorite skater by a long shot.  i don't have any favorites outside of the skaters i grew up watching.
p-rod skates slow my man, he just knows how wax a ledge and sit on his tricks.  i never once said i hated p-rod, only that i find his skating boring.  why is that consider hate?
and for the record, theres only 1 skater that i just can't stand and thats TK.
i don't know him personally but whenever i do see him, hes running his mouth and trying to act like hes the shit and that goes for everyone.

its cool my dude, you concentrate on being the best skateboader, i'll continue to settle for mediocrity.



0:50-1:16. fast no push lines, and only the last one could you say "he just knows how to sit on his tricks." and knowing how to to sit on a fakie shove crook is nothing to scoff at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lentTEX4t04
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Smurph on December 05, 2009, 04:41:32 AM
I just love how this went from the new plaza in Madrid to how fast Paul Rodriguez skates...
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Post by: vihreekerma on December 05, 2009, 09:12:23 AM
This thread was about a plaza in Madrid and it turned to a discussion about COTG and his skatin'  8)
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Post by: ZachTFLd on December 05, 2009, 09:29:13 AM
Mark Gonzales' intro for Tony Trujillo in te SOTY video.

"Be-lee dat!"
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: alrightythen on December 07, 2009, 05:38:28 AM
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kerry getz is good but hes not my favorite skater by a long shot.  i don't have any favorites outside of the skaters i grew up watching.
p-rod skates slow my man, he just knows how wax a ledge and sit on his tricks.  i never once said i hated p-rod, only that i find his skating boring.  why is that consider hate?
and for the record, theres only 1 skater that i just can't stand and thats TK.
i don't know him personally but whenever i do see him, hes running his mouth and trying to act like hes the shit and that goes for everyone.

its cool my dude, you concentrate on being the best skateboader, i'll continue to settle for mediocrity.



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0:50-1:16. fast no push lines, and only the last one could you say "he just knows how to sit on his tricks." and knowing how to to sit on a fakie shove crook is nothing to scoff at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lentTEX4t04
am i the only one that really felt a porn vibe in the start of that clip? you know the shitty acting and stuff
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Sleazy on December 07, 2009, 08:47:48 AM
^

"one more thing before i leave, what do you think about this..."

* whips it out *

paul shuts the rail down switch
Title: Re: New Skateplaza in Madrid
Post by: Tommes on December 18, 2009, 12:27:22 AM
back to the topic here is a video of the opening of the park,...

http://www.skatefilms.tv/component/option,com_seyret/Itemid,31/task,videodirectlink/id,409/

skip the spanish and start at 1:07