DEAN ALTERS PEOPLE'S REPS. WHAT A FAGGOT.

[Alan]

even if you discount this fact, and my opinion, entirely, dean is still a fascist, environment fuddling cunt
based on his censorship and banning.

Word. What makes it worse is that his bosses actually condone such behaviour, which makes any kind of change for the better impossible.

[Gomez]

i don't care what you say, the fucking title of this thread is "DEAN ALTERS PEOPLE'S REPS. WHAT A FAGGOT." clearly, strangefires, rep is at the very least the biggest thing you're pissed about, and you're only trying to pretend like there's a bigger picture because you don't want to seem as lame as you really are.

i love how some ppl are so one-minded and just say who gives a fuck, i dont care etc. they lack the ability to see that this just like what... the 5th, 6th, 7th? time dean has abused his power. obviously its not about the fucking number so stop acting like you're some kind of badass for not caring. if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd realize that the rep abuse affects the board. or you dont care about or enjoy the boards at all... in which case why the fuck are you here?

i'm curious as to how this doesn't mean that i don't enjoy the boards because i don't care that a mod is abusing the rep system. i completely agree with the general thesis of your second post, but then again, i've already stated that i think it's lame to delete posts to censor the boards, there's no denying that. but the fact of the matter is that you didn't say "if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd realize that the censoring of posts affects the board." because that's all there is to it. if dean exclusively abused the rep system, it wouldn't affect anyone's enjoyment of the board that doesn't care deeply about the rep system; it's the censoring of posts that affects everyone's enjoyment of the boards (although i haven't noticed any post deleting since the vicky thing so i'll just take your word for it). funny thing is, even if dean was exclusively abusing the rep system, this thread would still exist, except you would have no argument against it other than the fact that you cherish your rep deeply. let me say once again that censoring the boards is really fucking lame, i enjoy how liberal this board is compared to pretty much any other forum worth posting on. you clearly have the poorest of reading comprehension skills to read through this thread and then still manage to make a claim like this:

no one cares about the rep you fucking ignorant dipshit.

[strangefires]

stop posting, gomez

[professor pocket pussy]

i don't care what you say, the fucking title of this thread is "DEAN ALTERS PEOPLE'S REPS. WHAT A FAGGOT." clearly, strangefires, rep is at the very least the biggest thing you're pissed about, and you're only trying to pretend like there's a bigger picture because you don't want to seem as lame as you really are.

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i love how some ppl are so one-minded and just say who gives a fuck, i dont care etc. they lack the ability to see that this just like what... the 5th, 6th, 7th? time dean has abused his power. obviously its not about the fucking number so stop acting like you're some kind of badass for not caring. if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd realize that the rep abuse affects the board. or you dont care about or enjoy the boards at all... in which case why the fuck are you here?

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i'm curious as to how this doesn't mean that i don't enjoy the boards because i don't care that a mod is abusing the rep system. i completely agree with the general thesis of your second post, but then again, i've already stated that i think it's lame to delete posts to censor the boards, there's no denying that. but the fact of the matter is that you didn't say "if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd realize that the censoring of posts affects the board." because that's all there is to it. if dean exclusively abused the rep system, it wouldn't affect anyone's enjoyment of the board that doesn't care deeply about the rep system; it's the censoring of posts that affects everyone's enjoyment of the boards (although i haven't noticed any post deleting since the vicky thing so i'll just take your word for it). funny thing is, even if dean was exclusively abusing the rep system, this thread would still exist, except you would have no argument against it other than the fact that you cherish your rep deeply. let me say once again that censoring the boards is really fucking lame, i enjoy how liberal this board is compared to pretty much any other forum worth posting on. you clearly have the poorest of reading comprehension skills to read through this thread and then still manage to make a claim like this:

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no one cares about the rep you fucking ignorant dipshit.

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can you not see how abuse of mod ability is abuse of mod ability?  thats my point.  hes consistently and constantly demonstrated abuse of his powers.  all this is, is another way for him to abuse his powers.  i don't understand how you can't see how that will affect the boards unless you truly believe that if he is allowed to abuse the "rep system" unignored that it won't lead to more bullshit abuse like he has demonstrated in the past.  for fucks sake the dude banned anyone who said something disagreeing with him.  obviously he has an inferiority(or superiority i dont know what the correct term is) complex that leads him to have to demonstrate some sort of control on others.  no matter how little it is i dont think unjustified abuse of power should go unacknowledged.  its obvious that others feel this way too.  also by the statements you pick out, and assertions you claim, your arguments only prove to show how you feel about the rep system whether you realize it or not which i find quite amusing.

[ice nine]

This is exactly why I said gomez can't respond to anyone over 16. He never understands what people wrie, and makes bullheaded statements/retorts, forcing people to rephrase their points over and over and brings the thread to a halt.

[strangefires]

This is exactly why I said gomez can't respond to anyone over 16. He never understands what people wrie, and makes bullheaded statements/retorts, forcing people to rephrase their points over and over and brings the thread to a halt.

loool

[Gomez]

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i don't care what you say, the fucking title of this thread is "DEAN ALTERS PEOPLE'S REPS. WHAT A FAGGOT." clearly, strangefires, rep is at the very least the biggest thing you're pissed about, and you're only trying to pretend like there's a bigger picture because you don't want to seem as lame as you really are.

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i love how some ppl are so one-minded and just say who gives a fuck, i dont care etc. they lack the ability to see that this just like what... the 5th, 6th, 7th? time dean has abused his power. obviously its not about the fucking number so stop acting like you're some kind of badass for not caring. if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd realize that the rep abuse affects the board. or you dont care about or enjoy the boards at all... in which case why the fuck are you here?

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i'm curious as to how this doesn't mean that i don't enjoy the boards because i don't care that a mod is abusing the rep system. i completely agree with the general thesis of your second post, but then again, i've already stated that i think it's lame to delete posts to censor the boards, there's no denying that. but the fact of the matter is that you didn't say "if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd realize that the censoring of posts affects the board." because that's all there is to it. if dean exclusively abused the rep system, it wouldn't affect anyone's enjoyment of the board that doesn't care deeply about the rep system; it's the censoring of posts that affects everyone's enjoyment of the boards (although i haven't noticed any post deleting since the vicky thing so i'll just take your word for it). funny thing is, even if dean was exclusively abusing the rep system, this thread would still exist, except you would have no argument against it other than the fact that you cherish your rep deeply. let me say once again that censoring the boards is really fucking lame, i enjoy how liberal this board is compared to pretty much any other forum worth posting on. you clearly have the poorest of reading comprehension skills to read through this thread and then still manage to make a claim like this:

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no one cares about the rep you fucking ignorant dipshit.

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can you not see how abuse of mod ability is abuse of mod ability? �thats my point. �hes consistently and constantly demonstrated abuse of his powers. �all this is, is another way for him to abuse his powers. �i don't understand how you can't see how that will affect the boards unless you truly believe that if he is allowed to abuse the "rep system" unignored that it won't lead to more bullshit abuse like he has demonstrated in the past. �for fucks sake the dude banned anyone who said something disagreeing with him. �obviously he has an inferiority(or superiority i dont know what the correct term is) complex that leads him to have to demonstrate some sort of control on others. �no matter how little it is i dont think unjustified abuse of power should go unacknowledged. �its obvious that others feel this way too. �also by the statements you pick out, and assertions you claim, your arguments only prove to show how you feel about the rep system whether you realize it or not which i find quite amusing.

it's been established that dean needs to be removed from power, no question about it, dude is lame and abusing his power. but the whole point of this board is that you can talk about skating and say whatever the fuck you want without being censored. hell, cotg talks shit on whiteley, the main dude behind slap, all the time and he's still around to post. on any other forum other than like 4chan, that would get you an automatic ban, no questions. so as long as that's not an issue, anyone can fully enjoy these forums. talk shit on skaters or dudes you don't like on here, solicit links for skate videos that just came out as long as they're passed out via pm, shit you can even take a photo of a dude and photoshop it into gay porn and the mods don't care. that's what makes this board worth going to, and so no, if the rep abuse was left ignored but you could still say whatever the fuck you wanted and not have to worry about censorship of any kind, then this board would still be equally enjoyable. yeah, it's lame and he shouldn't be able to do it, but at the end of the day, that's not the main issue that should be brought up here, and yet it was the main one being discussed until you started posting in it. again, check the thread title.

[professor pocket pussy]

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This is exactly why I said gomez can't respond to anyone over 16. He never understands what people wrie, and makes bullheaded statements/retorts, forcing people to rephrase their points over and over and brings the thread to a halt.

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loool

i was giving him the benefit of the doubt but after reading his above post i apologize.  its like he only hears what he wants to hear.

[Gomez]

This is exactly why I said gomez can't respond to anyone over 16. He points out the lameness in what people write, forcing people, like strangefires, to completely change their point brings the thread to a halt.

fixed.

[Alan]

Anybody who abuses their power in any way possible should be held accountable. It's that simple.

[Raped by Harpoon]

Oh my God the sanctity of Slap is tainted! I'm going to shit myself in anger!

But yeah, abusing your powers as a mod on an internet forum about skateboarding is pretty low on the social scale.

GET IT TOGETHER!

[Beer Wizard]

...Gomez the other arguments have already been had.  This one is just another log adding to fire of dean's mod abuse.  You really should make sure you know what you are talking about before you make such bullshit claims.

The stuff you said about being able to argue with who you want, photoshop who into what you want, and all the "rawness" that makes this message board worth going to would not be here if the bullshit abuse was not drawn attention too.  It would just keep on going on.

Look how eerily similar the results of these two threads are

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=44370.0

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=48576.0

among other topics which dean has deleted to hide his censorship bullshit.

[Sleazy]

i can't believe that whitely continues to let dean shit all over his hard work with this kind of silly shit. come on whitely, how much is going to be too much with this guy?

[Alan]

I don't think it's Whiteley, it's the HS bosses who keep the shithead here. Maybe they should consider that one of the reasons this forum became popular is because the mods weren't acting like Dean and Bantam.

I'm sure Mark would rather have the forums regulate themselves as in the past, rather than having to have meetings with the management about Dean.

[Gomez]

...Gomez the other arguments have already been had.  This one is just another log adding to fire of dean's mod abuse.  You really should make sure you know what you are talking about before you make such bullshit claims.

The stuff you said about being able to argue with who you want, photoshop who into what you want, and all the "rawness" that makes this message board worth going to would not be here if the bullshit abuse was not drawn attention too.  It would just keep on going on.

Look how eerily similar the results of these two threads are

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=44370.0

http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=44370.0

among other topics which dean has deleted to hide his censorship bullshit.

yeah, that's why i've stated like three times that dean needs to be taken out of power for being corrupted and generally lame. it would be like if gipper could just delete the posts of anyone he has an argument with. i'm just pointing out the lameness in strangefires focus of the thread that they created. it's not like his message is dean alters people's reps, which is a serious issue because that will most likely lead to him deleting posts, threads, etc. that would make sense, and i would have no arguments. however, you've just proven that he's already doing that. so wouldn't that be the more serious issue here? why even bring up the rep thing except as as an added example of his lameness?

[whiteley]

i don't know how much clearer i can make it-- dean is not under my control. he does not work for slap, he works for high speed productions. i do not decide what to do or not do with him. i have certainly had conversations with him about all of this, and i have had conversations with the bosses about it, too, but i can't direct what happens more than telling him and the bosses what i think, nor add anything more to this conversation. i'm sorry, but the whole thing is out of my hands.

[Sleazy]

is it possible to get someone who can take accountability to speak up in the forum then? surely you guys aren't ok with the things he's doing? and if you guys are ok at least be on the table about so people can know that this place has changed for good and there's no going back.

[ChildoftheGhetto]

HAHAHAHAHA slap can't forrest edwards dean.

[Beer Wizard]

i don't know how much clearer i can make it-- dean is not under my control. he does not work for slap, he works for high speed productions. i do not decide what to do or not do with him. i have certainly had conversations with him about all of this, and i have had conversations with the bosses about it, too, but i can't direct what happens more than telling him and the bosses what i think, nor add anything more to this conversation. i'm sorry, but the whole thing is out of my hands.

Then may I propose that we as a message board collectively some how draw attention of this issue to the higher ups at high speed production or who ever needs to be notified.  I'm sure Gipper or someone could write a convincing argument.  It's fairly obvious that even the other mods are sick of having to deal with his bullshit.

Not to sound all political and mighty and shit, but as users who enjoy this message board we should at least try to do something.

[The Donger]

It could be worse. On the Thrasher boards your Rep and Post numbers get knocked down to zero and threads get deleted just because your a the new guy there, then they ban your account.

[professor pocket pussy]

It could be worse. On the Thrasher boards your Rep and Post numbers get knocked down to zero and threads get deleted just because your a the new guy there, then they ban your account.

exactly and no one gives a shit about the thrasher message boards do they?  but if something is not done this place will slowly turn into that shit.  obviously the high speed dudes can't be that fucking out of touch that realize that the uncensored untouched content and opinions is what makes this place worth coming to.  or maybe they are and should somehow be made aware.

[ChildoftheGhetto]

you're taking this a little too seriously. All he's doing is banning people that talk shit on him, and altering reps of people he likes/doesn't like. I would have never noticed any of this shit if it hadn't been brought to my attention, and now that it has, I still don't care.

[professor pocket pussy]

you're taking this a little too seriously. All he's doing is banning people that talk shit on him, and altering reps of people he likes/doesn't like. I would have never noticed any of this shit if it hadn't been brought to my attention, and now that it has, I still don't care.

nigga what if he does some bitch shit and you wanna call him out on it but you can't because he'll fucking ban you.  what if he continues to do lame ass shit but no one can say anything because they'll get banned.  he'll continue to lame this place up to his thrasher message board standards.   once it gets there you won't be able to say any of the fucking shit you say.  with the shit you say you'd be banned pretty much instantly on any other message board.  and don't say you don't enjoy this place, you're on here all the time so don't even play that shit.

[Alan]

obviously the high speed dudes can't be that fucking out of touch that realize that the uncensored untouched content and opinions is what makes this place worth coming to.  or maybe they are and should somehow be made aware.

Out of touch? Never.

http://www.thrashermagazine.com/component/option,com_hwdvideoshare/Itemid,90/lang,en/task,viewvideo/video_id,901/

[Ronald Wilson Reagan]

This thread is so dumb. I gotta say that I am hyped, yet again, that Gomez has me calling him regular in his sig with a facepalm. It prevents me from having to do that after every post he makes.

[whiteley]

dean as well as the higher ups are all gone from the office this week, so you're gonna have to just wait for now because there is nothing to be done immediately. i will send an email today to the people who need to see it and show them that this is flaring up again. that's all i can do right now, but i will do it.
as far as far as being on the table, i'm on it at all times. i'm not hiding anything. my conversations with dean have been like this: chill out, don't take things so personally, don't abuse your position, take a step back and just be a part of the forum. i know he gets it, and i also know he gets heated and bummed and trips out sometimes. and i've said it in front of the bosses, too.
i understand you are unhappy, i do, and i will do my best to remedy it. please be understanding of the fact that it is not something that is in my control, but that i do have the best interests of this place in mind. i get that it is important to you guys, i get the principle of it, and so i will address it again.
for now, please chill as there is nothing more to do about it currently-- i promise i will send the email today.

[rawbertson.]

you're taking this a little too seriously. All he's doing is banning people that talk shit on him, and altering reps of people he likes/doesn't like. I would have never noticed any of this shit if it hadn't been brought to my attention, and now that it has, I still don't care.

Brooklyn Brawler did this exact same type of shit he was never banned he was encouraged, so we either have a whole lot of new people to slap or people who are just butthurt because now their buddy is not stroking thier e-cock

[CigaretteBeer]

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you're taking this a little too seriously. All he's doing is banning people that talk shit on him, and altering reps of people he likes/doesn't like. I would have never noticed any of this shit if it hadn't been brought to my attention, and now that it has, I still don't care.

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Brooklyn Brawler did this exact same type of shit he was never banned he was encouraged, so we either have a whole lot of new people to slap or people who are just butthurt because now their buddy is not stroking thier e-cock

I really really miss the BB days. Slap definitely seems to be under control of all the shittiest posters now and this place is sucking more and more each day. Is it a bunch of new people or did everyone who was good just decide to leave?

[ChildoftheGhetto]

Exactly. Now that it's affecting people other than childoftheghetto and rawbertson negatively, it's suddenly a problem. Brooklyn brawler deleted a shitload of my posts, lowered my rep, and altered some of my posts. And they gave some fag my name, and had him saying a bunch of homo shit. If it wasn't a problem then, it shouldn't be a problem now.

[H8R part 4]

how long did the mods and co. keep rawbum out of temp gnar? 
it didn't seem to bother anyone when the power was being abused in their favor, right? 

contrary to popular belief this forum its not a democracy.  its privately owned and he works for the privately owned.  theres really nothing more to be said.
i'm not trying to justify his actions but if someone didn't like you and they went out of their way to be a dick to you every chance they got(dean doesn't get much love on slap), and you were the one in a position of power, wouldn't you fuck with them?  you can't keep poking someone and expect them not to poke you back.   
and really, whats with you dudes trying to get him fired?  are you honestly trying to mess with the mans livelihood?  thats how he eats and pays his bills and you want him fired so he doesn't alter/delete stuff?  thats a bit much don't you think? 

i don't approve of what dean has been doing, i think its petty on his part but people need to let go and move on.