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Title: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Stylites on October 17, 2007, 06:06:42 PM
from the SGV interview here:
http://www.whatissgv.com/hollaration%20folder/SCOTT%20JOHNSTON%20folder/scottj.html

"I guess that's what I've been up to. I've got a video part, or somewhat of a video part in the Lakai video. That should show what I've been up to skating-wise the past couple of years."
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Post by: kev on October 17, 2007, 06:09:40 PM
Boo-urns.
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Post by: Stylites on October 17, 2007, 06:11:18 PM
"You truly are the king of kings"
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: marty. on October 17, 2007, 06:13:04 PM
Did that page fuck up anyone else's eyes? When I went back to Slap after reading through that, everything has a pinkish tint to it.

But yeah, it sucks that his part isn't gonna be as long, but whatever he puts out I'm sure it's gonna be good. I was kinda hoping that he'd go all out for this part though, since it's probably gonna be his last.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: bentmode on October 17, 2007, 06:15:30 PM
of course, why wouldnt there be shared parts in the lakai video?
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: gub on October 17, 2007, 06:19:07 PM
not too surprised, but if you haven't seen it, check this SJ full four minutes featuring some classic steely dan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rV5DfliI0

peeeeeeeeeggggggggg
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: jesus0nvi4gra on October 17, 2007, 06:24:41 PM
Did that page fuck up anyone else's eyes? When I went back to Slap after reading through that, everything has a pinkish tint to it.

But yeah, it sucks that his part isn't gonna be as long, but whatever he puts out I'm sure it's gonna be good. I was kinda hoping that he'd go all out for this part though, since it's probably gonna be his last.

Yeah, I thought I was trippin for a second, weird.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: PAWL on October 17, 2007, 06:32:10 PM
Did that page fuck up anyone else's eyes? When I went back to Slap after reading through that, everything has a pinkish tint to it.


ugggh. yeah.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: SR Junky on October 17, 2007, 06:48:05 PM
not too surprised, but if you haven't seen it, check this SJ full four minutes featuring some classic steely dan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rV5DfliI0

peeeeeeeeeggggggggg

That is THE part.  He is like so sketchy but like so cleann at the same time.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: NickDagger on October 17, 2007, 07:20:57 PM
Way to go Scott, give every person on earth EXACTLY what they've come to expect from you.

Seriously doesn't he have like 4 pro models?

FILM A FUCKIN PART
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: jesus0nvi4gra on October 17, 2007, 07:27:07 PM
I'm not sure about you guys but that sounded to me like he's retiring any second.  He basically talks about he's totally over it and he can't do anything new and how he's all up in designing shoes nowadays.  That interview was depressing, and I don't even like him that much.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: ??? on October 17, 2007, 07:30:38 PM
Boo-urns.

I was saying boo-urns
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Alexactly on October 17, 2007, 07:35:32 PM
His 12 tricks will be the best in the video, and among the best this decade.
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Post by: skatebored on October 17, 2007, 07:41:21 PM
His 12 tricks will be the best in the video, and among the best this decade.

are you sure?
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: MyUserName on October 17, 2007, 07:45:05 PM
maybe in fully flared terms 'somewhat of a part' means three minutes. therefore all the 'full' parts will be 6+ minutes!

...wishful thinking.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Bill on October 17, 2007, 08:17:13 PM
I'm not sure about you guys but that sounded to me like he's retiring any second.  He basically talks about he's totally over it and he can't do anything new and how he's all up in designing shoes nowadays.  That interview was depressing, and I don't even like him that much.

He already pretty much is retired. He doesn't have a board anymore. Fully Flared is going to be it for him. After that, he's just going to work at Lakai designing shoes.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: shutupbitch on October 17, 2007, 09:57:59 PM
At least he's knows when to call it quits. I felt the same way. Yeah, that interview was depressing but it's good to hear he's got a steady job and open arms.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: clientele. on October 17, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
tell me something i don't know.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: rollo on October 18, 2007, 01:25:01 AM
knows when to calll it quits? scotty was rad but i think he should have after yeah right.
it just seems so obvious hes barely been skating the last couple of years.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: metsuri on October 18, 2007, 01:46:52 AM
At least he's knows when to call it quits. I felt the same way. Yeah, that interview was depressing but it's good to hear he's got a steady job and open arms.

I thought that was a real honest read, I didn't find it depressing at all. Quite the opposite. Seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders. I also thought the intro was really well written, summed his skating up real nicely.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: brooklyn brawler on October 18, 2007, 01:51:50 AM
My eyes are hurt from that page.

Edit: I keep reading parts of it, so I can come back here and see the pink again.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: max power on October 18, 2007, 04:56:34 AM
is anyone really surprised?
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Post by: shutupbitch on October 18, 2007, 08:13:05 AM
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At least he's knows when to call it quits. I felt the same way. Yeah, that interview was depressing but it's good to hear he's got a steady job and open arms.
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I thought that was a real honest read, I didn't find it depressing at all. Quite the opposite. Seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders. I also thought the intro was really well written, summed his skating up real nicely.

depressing to hear about him not being stoked on skating. Not saying he's depressing. He's a great candidate for that job cause it's the details that matter when designing and he seems kind of nerdy on that tip. Anyways, cool dude and glad to hear he has a kid... I'm wondering if he changes his bib 10 times a feeding??? ;)
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: 89-90pistons on October 18, 2007, 08:17:11 AM
I love the 180 to switch crooks he does in modus.
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Post by: flipbacklipshuv on October 18, 2007, 08:36:34 AM
that dude BLOWS . after that bullshit he put out in 5 flavors i LOST all respect. best thing in his career was the 180 switch crooks on that gap to ledge in Mike C's Part. everything else was just blah blah blah blah blah ..
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Post by: TotallyAwesome on October 18, 2007, 08:38:20 AM
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At least he's knows when to call it quits. I felt the same way. Yeah, that interview was depressing but it's good to hear he's got a steady job and open arms.
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I thought that was a real honest read, I didn't find it depressing at all. Quite the opposite. Seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders. I also thought the intro was really well written, summed his skating up real nicely.
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depressing to hear about him not being stoked on skating. Not saying he's depressing. He's a great candidate for that job cause it's the details that matter when designing and he seems kind of nerdy on that tip. Anyways, cool dude and glad to hear he has a kid... I'm wondering if he changes his bib 10 times a feeding??? ;)

SJ was up in SF for a while....were you in LA at that point?  I'd figure you'd be tight with him....maybe not.

Personally, I like SJ a lot.  He hasn't had a full video part in a long time but i'm always looking forward to seeing his footy (Does that remind anyone of another Girl camp rider????)
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 18, 2007, 08:43:33 AM
He has really good style, but for a while now he's just been kinda doing the same old tricks. If its time to go, its time to go. I'll appreciate the part more knowing that this 180 switch crook maybe the last one of his ever.

Either that or he realizes that comebacks are the hot new thing, and is bowing out just so he can have a big comeback later.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: beeda weeda on October 18, 2007, 08:46:40 AM
I'm happy he is bowing down, that lakai ad with him bs 50 50ing a dumpster earlie rthis year, late last year was when I was officially over him. He really hasn't had a full part since let the horns blow.
No hate on the guy, but I am happy he is giivng up his spot to sombody more deserving.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: shutupbitch on October 18, 2007, 08:49:31 AM
He has really good style, but for a while now he's just been kinda doing the same old tricks. If its time to go, its time to go. I'll appreciate the part more knowing that this 180 switch crook maybe the last one of his ever.

Either that or he realizes that comebacks are the hot new thing, and is bowing out just so he can have a big comeback later.

stop blowing my cover! I'm working on hyphy things to say and am staging fights left and right for my comeback. Still don't have footy though.

Nah, it's very admirable of him to say those types of things. I have a lot more respect  for him now. And if I'm in the house for the premiere I'd expect a
standing applause for him after the part is done.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: FrenchFuck on October 18, 2007, 09:10:33 AM
Either that or he realizes that comebacks are the hot new thing, and is bowing out just so he can have a big comeback later.

"the hot new thing" are you fucking regular? Honestly. I never liked this guy and he will never make a comeback.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Matze on October 18, 2007, 09:11:35 AM
not too surprised, but if you haven't seen it, check this SJ full four minutes featuring some classic steely dan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rV5DfliI0

peeeeeeeeeggggggggg

does anyone know the cover version of this song from the early nineties?
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 18, 2007, 09:13:05 AM
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Either that or he realizes that comebacks are the hot new thing, and is bowing out just so he can have a big comeback later.
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"the hot new thing" are you fucking regular? Honestly. I never liked this guy and he will never make a comeback.
Good point. Clearly I am a fool. Honestly
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: H8R vol.2 on October 18, 2007, 09:19:21 AM
maybe hes a nice guy in person but i never got past the i'm-too-cool image he gives off.
i wish the best of luck to him.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: bothersome on October 18, 2007, 09:28:09 AM
always a fan of sj.
never got the too cool vibe, just someone who doesn't want to put out something they didn't like.
wether it was up to "par" or not.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: cold budweisers on October 18, 2007, 09:38:38 AM
i've always liked scott johnston too, instead of being 'too cool' he just seems more tasteful.  he pretty much explains it in that interview though.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 18, 2007, 09:41:03 AM
Cool? Tasteful? Whatever. Dudes super preppy and tends to confuse the average wear-a-shirt-3-days-in-a-row skater
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: kronichles on October 18, 2007, 10:58:40 AM
nicest dude ever.  he knows when to bow out and that gives me more respect for him.  i like the fact he acknowledged that even HE doesnt want to do another feeble grind again.  hope to see a solid part in ff.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: magnet on October 18, 2007, 12:07:31 PM
Better be a decent part considering it's probably meticulously pieced together footage from the past few years.  It's about time he did move on though.  Four pro model shoes was a bit much for someone who was kind of over it.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: 94 on October 18, 2007, 03:17:21 PM
Ive always liked SJ his skating is stylish and perfect as hell. Yeah its annoying about the lack of footage but thats my only complaint.He looks like a model or something hehe with his perfect shirts and shit but thats just him I suppose. I would like to see a edit of his stuff in yeah right,hot chocolate,beware of the flair and any 411/guest footage whatever from 2000 onwards,eg stussy tours or whatever.That would seem like a full part and would be cool to watch in one edit and it would all look pretty much the same camera qaulity. Then make a edit of his mad circle stuff/early chocolate stuff etc etc.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Math Professor on October 18, 2007, 04:26:14 PM
SJ can do no wrong in my book.  I'd rather see him with a pro model than... Ed Templeton, Jeremy Klien, or Chris Lambert.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: hawalibi on October 18, 2007, 04:43:13 PM
Damn. Some people tend to forget that this guy is line-up in the best video of all time...
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Duffy on October 18, 2007, 04:47:13 PM
Ive always liked SJ his skating is stylish and perfect as hell. Yeah its annoying about the lack of footage but thats my only complaint.He looks like a model or something hehe with his perfect shirts and shit but thats just him I suppose. I would like to see a edit of his stuff in yeah right,hot chocolate,beware of the flair and any 411/guest footage whatever from 2000 onwards,eg stussy tours or whatever.That would seem like a full part and would be cool to watch in one edit and it would all look pretty much the same camera qaulity. Then make a edit of his mad circle stuff/early chocolate stuff etc etc.

Early Chocolate stuff?
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Asylum on October 18, 2007, 04:58:22 PM
My eyes fucking hurt now.
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Post by: Sony MDR V2 headphones on October 18, 2007, 05:00:39 PM
As unlikely as it seems, I still have faith in Scott to pull off at least a 3 minute part.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Duffy on October 18, 2007, 05:53:05 PM
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not too surprised, but if you haven't seen it, check this SJ full four minutes featuring some classic steely dan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rV5DfliI0

peeeeeeeeeggggggggg
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does anyone know the cover version of this song from the early nineties?

Not sure what you mean, but you might mean the De La Soul song Eye Know, Dawon used it in New World Order.. hope that helped.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Jesse on October 18, 2007, 06:18:13 PM
Dudes super preppy and tends to confuse the average wear-a-shirt-3-days-in-a-row skater

God forbid that should happen...

Real heads don't care about that shit and are more confused with how his switch front tails are just so butters.

I also never really understood why skaters get so mad about a skater they claim to not like's part being too short. What, you wanna watch 4 minutes of some dude who you think dresses funny and aint feelin? This makes no sense.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: friction! on October 18, 2007, 07:49:14 PM
SJ can do no wrong in my book.  I'd rather see him with a pro model than... Ed Templeton, Jeremy Klien, or Chris Lambert.

i assure you, ed is ripping way harder than scott johnston has in years.
what a foolish thing to say.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: bothersome on October 18, 2007, 09:23:32 PM
It's foolish to have an opinion?
Get over yourself.
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Post by: Tha J-train on October 18, 2007, 10:02:33 PM



what a foolish thing to say.
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haha sounds like something you'd hear watching the next chronicles of narnia movie
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: shutupbitch on October 18, 2007, 10:05:35 PM
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SJ can do no wrong in my book.  I'd rather see him with a pro model than... Ed Templeton, Jeremy Klien, or Chris Lambert.
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i assure you, ed is ripping way harder than scott johnston has in years.
what a foolish thing to say.

Ed is good. SJ is good.

SJ will be missed.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: madgrimy on October 18, 2007, 11:22:01 PM
dude should have gotten out of the way a while ago...danny garcia could still be on lakai
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Alexactly on October 19, 2007, 01:26:24 AM
You should be in a trash compactor.
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Post by: biggums mcgee on October 19, 2007, 01:33:14 AM
these kids in kc/dc were talking about how they watched scott johnston skate a two stair across from their apartment for a good three hours..if this is true, I wish more pros did shit like that
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: The Laps of Alps. on October 19, 2007, 06:22:33 AM
SJ is the fuckin man! are you kidding!
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: TheMoneyMellon on October 19, 2007, 06:59:05 AM
Cool? Tasteful? Whatever. Dudes super preppy and tends to confuse the average wear-a-shirt-3-days-in-a-row skater
Yeah, when I watch one of his parts I'm thinking "Man this guy has on some clean clothes! What the fuck am I gonna do?!?"

P.S. I don't think that skating in a shirt for three days is normal, you might want to check that out.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: 94 on October 19, 2007, 10:33:39 AM
I meant his early chocolate stuff meaning THE Chocolate Tour and just anything Choco related around that time.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: BallDontLie on October 19, 2007, 10:35:28 AM
I liked his hot chocolate bits. Seems like he's got a nice crib.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: The Laps of Alps. on October 19, 2007, 10:44:55 AM
make up your minds
you want ronson lamberts to put out full 2 song parts or good clean tricks every now and then
sure the dude doesnt have much shit ever out there
and 4 pro shoes

maybe hes busy actually skateboarding though, not documenting every little thing, like the rest of the normal skate population
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 19, 2007, 11:22:15 AM
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Dudes super preppy and tends to confuse the average wear-a-shirt-3-days-in-a-row skater
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God forbid that should happen...

Real heads don't care about that shit and are more confused with how his switch front tails are just so butters.

I also never really understood why skaters get so mad about a skater they claim to not like's part being too short. What, you wanna watch 4 minutes of some dude who you think dresses funny and aint feelin? This makes no sense.
Apparently your desire to be arrogant has outweighed your ability to read and respond to what was written.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Math Professor on October 19, 2007, 11:35:00 AM
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SJ can do no wrong in my book.  I'd rather see him with a pro model than... Ed Templeton, Jeremy Klien, or Chris Lambert.
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i assure you, ed is ripping way harder than scott johnston has in years.
what a foolish thing to say.
  Yeah... Ed's still ripping no question about that.  But I'm just saying I'd rather see an SJ pro model than an Ed Templeton.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Jesse on October 19, 2007, 03:19:28 PM
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God forbid that should happen...

Real heads don't care about that shit and are more confused with how his switch front tails are just so butters.

I also never really understood why skaters get so mad about a skater they claim to not like's part being too short. What, you wanna watch 4 minutes of some dude who you think dresses funny and aint feelin? This makes no sense.
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Apparently your desire to be arrogant has outweighed your ability to read and respond to what was written.

Ok, so the Slap boards speak some new form of douchebaggery that I am not yet familiar with. When I read this thread, it was full of nothing but stupid kids complaining about how SJ's video part would be too short, while at the same time dissing him. Then someone, who was jealous that SJ knows how to use a washing machine, made some stupid comment about how he's clean and confuses the dirtier, less intelligent skaters.

You should find the nearest product toss and get yourself a new shirt, your stinky clothes are starting to make your opinions equally unbearable. Is that easier to understand?
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Alexactly on October 19, 2007, 07:26:13 PM
Woah did turkey lurkey really just accuse someone else of being arrogant?
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Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 22, 2007, 09:36:16 AM
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God forbid that should happen...

Real heads don't care about that shit and are more confused with how his switch front tails are just so butters.

I also never really understood why skaters get so mad about a skater they claim to not like's part being too short. What, you wanna watch 4 minutes of some dude who you think dresses funny and aint feelin? This makes no sense.
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Apparently your desire to be arrogant has outweighed your ability to read and respond to what was written.
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Ok, so the Slap boards speak some new form of douchebaggery that I am not yet familiar with. When I read this thread, it was full of nothing but stupid kids complaining about how SJ's video part would be too short, while at the same time dissing him. Then someone, who was jealous that SJ knows how to use a washing machine, made some stupid comment about how he's clean and confuses the dirtier, less intelligent skaters.

You should find the nearest product toss and get yourself a new shirt, your stinky clothes are starting to make your opinions equally unbearable. Is that easier to understand?
Rad. First of all, I wasn't insulting him with the clean-cut comment. I was just making note of the fact that people were saying he is this and that, when really, he's just a clean cut guy in a culture that has been known to have more than a few dirts. You took it as me saying "Scott Johnston is really clean and I am so dirty! Fuck him!"- Which isn't what I said, and why I responded with the comment about you being arrogant in the first place. You assumed I had some opinion which wasn't there, then tried to act like you were all better than me for making that comment. Thats why you failed at responding to what was written.

The "real heads" comment is where you come off as even more dumb and arrogant. First of all, I think a point can be made that he does have clean style, but his trick selection is lacking. The guy has had multiple pro shoes, but hasn't done anything interesting since before the damn company existed. To hear that he can't even come up with a full part kind of implies that he is still not pulling it together. Its more of a confirmation of what everybody was thinking, despite hoping that he was capable of more. He apparently even knows that its time to go... so I guess he's not a "real head."  Its that quote "real head," that gets to me. Ok, you've posted on this message board for a while, that don't make you hardcore. We know if we are real or not. I've been skating for 15 years, virtually every day. I moved out west so I could skate all year, and into a house with all of my skate friends who have done the same, and its all of our #1 focus. But I guess since I have a different opinion than you about some dude who skates in videos I must be some sort of poser. Though, I'm pretty sure you probably are just some fat bitch living in Indiana or some shit. I bet if I saw you skate I wouldn't consider you a "real head."
So anyway, please learn to read before you decide that its time to get arrogant.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: ad4m on October 22, 2007, 10:59:32 AM
i hardly ever post on these boards because 9 out of 10 times the topics are unbearably trife, but i can't resist putting in my two cents about SJ. anyone who disses this guy is seriously lacking taste. Look at any of his footage and try to find anything that would be considered sketchy (with the exception of the nollie tailslide down hubba  in which he landed kinda weird.)  The dude may not be pushing the technical limits of skating, but any of his footage is guaranteed to be clean and properly executed. He's not gonna go out to the hot new skate spots and try to one up the guy who was there before him, and i really respect him for that. it's almost as if he puts alot of thought into his footage rather than going out and filming every single day just for the sake of doing so. He said it perfectly in that interview, he made it in skateboarding with his style,  and i hold him up there on the list of steezy skaters. and yeah, his footage has always been scarce, but like gino or pappalardo i would much rather see a quality sequence or clip every once in awhile than to see too much of the guy. it keeps things fresh, and keeps you wanting more. one last thing: bear in mind that scott's not a young buck anymore (i believe he's 34) and for someone to be putting anything out there at that age is pretty impressive by itself. not everyone can push it past 30 like carroll and danny way have, so pay some respect to scott because the guy has definitely paid his dues and he did it in a way that is unique only to him.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 22, 2007, 11:04:40 AM
Your opinion is respectable. You go into why you like him, and thats cool.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: ad4m on October 22, 2007, 02:09:14 PM
yeah, i mean i'm not asking anyone to become a full blown fan of scott's skating, but don't hate on someone who's been pro for over a decade and has had some really good sponsors. something had to get him there, lakai, chocolate and stussy wouldn't sponsor someone who didn't have what it takes to be pro.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 22, 2007, 02:44:40 PM
Hey, I'm just saying that I think his best days are behind him, and I personally think its a very classy thing to do, bowing out like this. It IS chocolate. Crailtap will let anybody stay on as long as they want. The only thing that got me pissed was the arrogant "real heads" bullshit.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Jesse on October 22, 2007, 04:58:07 PM
Rad. First of all, I wasn't insulting him with the clean-cut comment. I was just making note of the fact that people were saying he is this and that, when really, he's just a clean cut guy in a culture that has been known to have more than a few dirts. You took it as me saying "Scott Johnston is really clean and I am so dirty! Fuck him!"- Which isn't what I said, and why I responded with the comment about you being arrogant in the first place.

Your pointing out that he is clean cut was just rather redundant. I mean, why bring that up, unless you were trying to diss dude because of it? You coming back with "I was just making note of the fact that people were saying he is this and that, when really, he's just a clean cut guy in a culture that has been known to have more than a few dirts" is even more pointless. Great, you pointed out that most skaters are dirty, but Scott Johnston knows how to use soap, where does that fit into this discussion?

Furthermore, although I am arrogant, (what an amazing deduction, congrats columbo) my assuming that you were dissing SJ is not a strong indication of my arrogance. Instead, its a stronger indicator of your poor ability in making your thoughts clear in writing. It really read like you were dissing dude. But that's besides the point.

Thats why you failed at responding to what was written.

Dumb conclusion.  One can only fail at responding to what was written by not responding at all. to what was written.  You failed at communicating your thoughts effectively. Big difference.

First of all, I think a point can be made that he does have clean style, but his trick selection is lacking.

This is personal opinion of yours based on an extremely relative subject. You believe that he doesn't do the right tricks, or enough tricks. Someone else might enjoy his ability to make even what some might consider simple tricks look solid and clean.  A wise man always chooses quality over quantity.

The guy has had multiple pro shoes, but hasn't done anything interesting since before the damn company existed.

Another opinion on a relative subject.  They weren't exactly giving boards away when dude went pro. There weren't as many dudes with shoes as there today as when SJ got his own signature shoe.  They don't exactly give those out to slackers, so he had to have done something to achieve his status right? So really, who the fuck are you to say whether a dude should be pro or not? If you don't like a pro, don't buy their shit. A company turns someone pro based on their ability to sell boards. For some skaters, this means accumulating as much footage as possible. Other pros have had great success with a very minimal amount of actual skating. If a pro can sell his pro models without skating, or with a very small portion of footage, then what's the problem?

To hear that he can't even come up with a full part kind of implies that he is still not pulling it together.

You suck at thinking. That's a very bad deduction.  For one, it only implies that "he is not still pulling it together" to other people who think that a pro is only worth his most recent footage (I call these people dumbfucks).  Someone who is not so bad at thinking would consider that it could rather imply that he just doesn't want to film a full part. I mean, dude is grown, why should he have to film a full part these days? Dude can just skate, let the teenagers have all the fun in filming a full video part, because that's something that is just so fucking fun to do. 

When, exactly, did skateboarding become nothing more than video parts? When did a pro's worth rest solely on said video parts? If your board still sells then you can do whatever the fuck you want. Pro skateboarders don't owe you anything. You aren't guaranteed a full video part from a guy who is pro. If someone's shit stops selling, they should step down. If SJ's name aint selling boards anymore, and he doesn't want to try to sell himself through a video part, he should step down. But the idea of yours that a video part implies whether or not a pro can still cut it is some of the most regular shit ever written on here.

Its that quote "real head," that gets to me. Ok, you've posted on this message board for a while, that don't make you hardcore.

I haven't posted on this messageboard for a long while, actually.  I used to post here rather frequently, but that was years ago. I never said, nor implied, that it made me hardcore.

We know if we are real or not. I've been skating for 15 years, virtually every day. I moved out west so I could skate all year, and into a house with all of my skate friends who have done the same, and its all of our #1 focus. But I guess since I have a different opinion than you about some dude who skates in videos I must be some sort of poser.

I really could not give a fuck who you are or what your life story is.  You, however, for some reason feel the need to validate yourself as a "real head" to some dude (who you don't even respect at that) on the internet.  Basically, you're only a poser if you give a fuck about being called a poser.   

Though, I'm pretty sure you probably are just some fat bitch living in Indiana or some shit.

Wow, you called me fat. Nice one. And you called me out for living in the midwest (Ohio, actually). Do you want some sort of prize for your shining examples of verbal fisticuffs? How bout I make you a plaque that says "Theotis Beaglesly, 100% Not A Poser!" would that be cool?

I bet if I saw you skate I wouldn't consider you a "real head."

Am I supposed to care about this statement? Yeah, you probably would question my validity as a skateboarder based on the extremely limited amount of footage I've acquired in all my years skating, I'll give you that.


Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 23, 2007, 10:03:08 AM
You are really dumb. If I wanted to I too could go through and tear your post apart like you tried with mine. But I don't want to type so much so I'll just do a couple of points. Shit like "Pros don't owe you anything." Yeah. My ass. If they weren't pro they wouldn't owe shit. But if you want people to buy your product or support you at all, you better act right.
If you look, right before my post people wrote shit about him that seemed to be a lot of assumptions about him just because he is clean cut. I pointed out that people seem to be confused and that he is just clean-cut, nothing more, nothing less. Its not redundant at that point.
You assumed things from my post that were never written, I don't see how I failed to "communicate [my] thoughts effectively" when you were responding to shit that was never written or implied.
A lot of my shit is subjective, its a messageboard, jackass. Its not like my opinions are that crazy. First of all, he himself said he was going to retire. So that means that he and the company have come to the same conclusion as me about his future as a pro skateboarder.

Calling you out for being a fat bitch from the middle of nowhere isn't that hard when you say shit like, "They weren't exactly giving boards away when dude went pro. There weren't as many dudes with shoes as there today as when SJ got his own signature shoe.  They don't exactly give those out to slackers, so he had to have done something to achieve his status right?" Which I translated into "the skateboard industry is SO smart, they always make good decisions,  I think Scott Johnston is probably good because Rick Howard said so." How fucking dumb can you be? Especially when its in reference to the crailtap frat. Not only that, Lakai was founded around 2000. Plenty of people had pro model shoes by then.

Also, when I talked about him failing to pull it together, that was in response to you not understanding how people could be annoyed by the fact that he isn't putting out a full part and the fact that his trick selection is so small. Get it? People hoped for more from him, and are bummed that he isn't delivering.

Scott Johnston had some pretty decent older footage, but its time for him to gracefully bow out, which he apparently plans to do.

Let me say though Jesse, I do love the fact that you called my writing redundant right below a quote of something I wrote, then quoted the same words again. Its definitively redundant, and quite funny
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: NickDagger on October 23, 2007, 10:15:27 AM
I seriously LOVE his clean style and trick selection  BUT...

I think you should have to film a full part for each shoe you come out with, or per every 2 years you have pro boards out.

That seriously seems like the lightest you could ask for someone with their name on a fucking shoe-and Scott just hasn't put out more than 30 seconds of footage every 2 years....since like Mad Circle days.

I'm sorry, but that's kinda lame.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: FTW on October 23, 2007, 10:31:40 AM
4 min sj your on oo on
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Zurg on October 23, 2007, 11:45:25 AM
kind of an echo of my last post, but is anyone, save for a few, really pushing skating? better off just skating with style and speed
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 23, 2007, 11:57:28 AM
kind of an echo of my last post, but is anyone, save for a few, really pushing skating? better off just skating with style and speed
Those few you "save for" are what make skateboarding worth watching, the rest are just clutter.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: hawalibi on October 23, 2007, 12:14:34 PM
You retards talk without knowing. 

S J is featured in the video of the decade.  Maybe he wont have  4 minutes of footage,  but his footage level will be fully flared-level.

Enough said.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 23, 2007, 12:28:56 PM
"Talk without knowing?"

You just called a video that hasn't come out yet the video of the decade.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Jesse on October 23, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
A lot of my shit is subjective, its a messageboard, jackass. Its not like my opinions are that crazy.

Your opinions aren't crazy, they're just stupid.  Of course its a messageboard, of course shit is subjective, that's my point. You can't judge a person's worth as a pro based on something as subjective as trick selection, or trick quantity. Well, if you own a company you can, but when you argue that Scott Johnston shouldn't be pro because he has limited footage of tricks you don't like you just sound like any other hater on here.

Shit like "Pros don't owe you anything." Yeah. My ass. If they weren't pro they wouldn't owe shit. But if you want people to buy your product or support you at all, you better act right.

Define "act right?" For someone who got so butt hurt about me using the term "real heads," you quite non-chalantly throw out an equally mind bending term.  Really though, pro skateboarders don't owe you shit, quit thinking like a twelve year old.  Whoever you support is a personal choice. Nobody is making you buy any particular brand of skateboards.  This isn't a communist country where you have to line up for the one brand of skateboards there is. You have many choices. Whatever company you choose to support, you support for personal reasons. Pros don't owe you shit. Skateboarding don't owe you shit.  You can choose to buy a board or not buy a board based on whoever is still putting out full video parts, but that does not mean that a pro has to put out a full video part in order to still keep his name on a board.

Calling you out for being a fat bitch from the middle of nowhere isn't that hard when you say shit like, "They weren't exactly giving boards away when dude went pro. There weren't as many dudes with shoes as there today as when SJ got his own signature shoe.  They don't exactly give those out to slackers, so he had to have done something to achieve his status right?" Which I translated into "the skateboard industry is SO smart, they always make good decisions.

No, only a dumbfuck like yourself could be capable of drawing that conclusion.  Scott Johnston came up during an era when skateboarding was barely scraping by. He proved, as you would call it, his "worth" by showing what a clean and solid style he had, during a time when not too many people had similarly clean styles. he had the last part in Let The Horns Blow, and you're acting like dude never did anything. Dude was in the mags every month for several years straight. Give him a fucking break. You seem to believe that pros can only remain pro if the keep putting out footage, this is some ridiculous new way of looking at skateboarding typical of a 15 year old, not someone who claims to be as down as you and has been skating for 15 years. Its the company who decides who remains pro, and the pro themselves, not some douchebag who thinks they owe him something because he rides a skateboard.

But yea, how much I weigh and where I live are two things that are completely relevant to this. The only real reason your try to stick in these little disses is because you have nothing else to say, and because your whole argument is bullshit. Its also because you're just another dumb fucking kid used to other dumb fucking kids on the current version of this board, so its really not surprising and I've come to expect nothing less.

I think Scott Johnston is probably good because Rick Howard said so." How fucking dumb can you be? Especially when its in reference to the crailtap frat. Not only that, Lakai was founded around 2000. Plenty of people had pro model shoes by then.

I think Scott Johnston is good because of the skating he has done over the years. I don't give a fuck about all the skaters the industry tries to shove down my throat, and I generally tend to appreciate the pros who were skating when I was growing up. You mention the crailtap frat. I don't know anything about that, I don't read that site. Is that anything like the skate fraternity you live in with all your other friends who moved out to cali to be down skaters who aren't posers? Yes, Lakai was founded around 200, but SJ had skated for DC for years before that and had earned a pro model before he ever got one.

Also, when I talked about him failing to pull it together, that was in response to you not understanding how people could be annoyed by the fact that he isn't putting out a full part and the fact that his trick selection is so small.

You're right, I don't understand how people could be annoyed by that. I don't really give too much of a fuck whether someone puts out a whole part or not. I don't expect them to give me anything. I've never bought a Scott Johnston board. In all my years skating I've barely ever bought a Girl/Choco product. I watch their vids and am stoked on most of their riders skating. I don't expect a full video part from every pro. As long as I'm stoked on a video I'm happy. Even if I only bought Chocolate boards, that still wouldn't mean he owed me something. It was my choice, for whatever reason, to buy the boards I buy. Skateboarding doesn't owe you shit. And again, to you his trick selection seems small, a lot of other people would disagree with you and say the quality of his tricks make up for it. Dude is aesthetically pleasing as all fuck to watch skate. I really don't give a fuck if he isn't throwing down combo manual tricks or skating handrails. There is way more to skating than what you think it should be. There are way more things that factor into someone being pro than video footage.

People hoped for more from him, and are bummed that he isn't delivering.

That sounds like that's a personal problem for the people that expected him to deliver to them whatever it was they wished he was going to deliver.  Again, this goes back to your moronic idea that skateboarding owes you something. You shouldn't expect so much from other people because you feel they owe you something, when they don't.

Scott Johnston had some pretty decent older footage, but its time for him to gracefully bow out, which he apparently plans to do.

If he retires, whatever, if not, whatever. Your opinion that a pro has to constantly prove himself through footage is still a really stupid opinion.

Let me say though Jesse, I do love the fact that you called my writing redundant right below a quote of something I wrote, then quoted the same words again. Its definitively redundant, and quite funny

Yeah, I only wish it could have been as funny as when you called me arrogant.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on October 23, 2007, 02:39:36 PM
1) We're both arrogant
2) pros owe everything to their fanbase. Without them, they'd be nothing
3)You're an idiot, stop pretending pro skateboarders are these super people, their just people who skate.
4) Scott Johnston apparently disagrees with you. HE is the one who said he is calling it quits. I ain't calling for a resignation
5) I'm done with you.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Zurg on October 23, 2007, 03:14:37 PM
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kind of an echo of my last post, but is anyone, save for a few, really pushing skating? better off just skating with style and speed
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Those few you "save for" are what make skateboarding worth watching, the rest are just clutter.

gotta disagree, i prefer some of the clutter to the limit pushers
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: Jesse on October 23, 2007, 03:45:51 PM
1) We're both arrogant

Yes, but your level of arrogance is pretty absurd, and I wasn't the one who got all butt hurt over it.

2) pros owe everything to their fanbase. Without them, they'd be nothing.

To an extent. But, thankfully, not everyone is regular like you are. A lot of people support pros who don't skate. Look at Kelch for a fine example of someone who went pro after they basically quit and sold tons of boards off not skating.

3)You're an idiot, stop pretending pro skateboarders are these super people, their just people who skate.

It's "they're" dude. You can't call someone an idiot if you fuck that kinda shit up. I'm not pretending pro skateboarders are super people, that's more of you being the fucking regular person that you are. I know they're just people who skate. That's why I don't expect anything from them. You are the one who is pretending they are super people by expecting grown dudes to keep coming out with part after part after part. If they are just people who skate to you, then why do you expect so fucking much from them? If you don't want them to be pro, don't buy the fucking pro model. Skateboarding don't owe you shit.

4) Scott Johnston apparently disagrees with you. HE is the one who said he is calling it quits. I ain't calling for a resignation

I never said he shouldn't retire. Maybe you should take your own advice, and learn how to fucking respond to what was written, dumbass. I said if he retires whatever, if he doesn't then whatever too. I said that your idea that pros have to constantly come out with video parts as part of "acting right" is a ridiculous and down right moronic idea. I said that just because Scott Johnston is retiring, it does not mean that it is in any way validating your moronic idea.

5) I'm done with you.

Then please, stop assaulting me (and the board as a whole) with your ridiculous ideas of how skateboarding should be. I would love to never read another post of yours (where did the ignore function go to anyways?). It would also be nice if you stopped trying to call people out for qualities you embrace about yourself, and it would be even better if you stopped the use of vague and blanketing terms in skateboarding when they cause you such a high level of butt hurtedness. Basically, stop being such a hypocritical bitch, and stop polluting this place with your garbage ass opinions.

There was a time before kids like you ruined this place. It would be nice to see it come back again.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: The Laps of Alps. on November 23, 2007, 01:50:20 PM
so how long was Scooch's part?
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: beeda weeda on November 23, 2007, 01:52:32 PM
I'd guess about 45 seconds
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: 94 on November 23, 2007, 02:10:35 PM
Wo alot of long ass posts. I heard SJs lakai shit was super good,cant wait till december to check it out. Ive always liked the dude fucking clean style but still a movable stlyish style. Hes like the Vogue of skateboarding or something,him being mad clean is just him ive always enjoyed every clip of his footage,qaulity not quantity. Thats how crails always been, Gabe rodriguez only had one full part  that being paco and I treasure every bit of footage he filmed, mouse etc. Same with Guy (before now) Shamil randle,Tae etc etc.They might not have filmed that much but every footage is pure fucking gold.

Wasnt the Skateboard Pro industry started cause skateboarders didnt wanna work in a office or whatever? Like someone said Pros dont owe you shit and I dont care who isnt "putting in work" I just enjoy watching footage of skateboarders I like ranging from Carroll, Shawn Connely, Cardiel, Trevor Prescott all those SF dudes,the mid 90s ny dudes like Pang etc I love skate videos and skate parts from skaters I like, thats it. Ill buy there board or whatever its just skateboarding, like what you like and ignore what you dont. Its all been said so many times before. Skateboardings attracting a lot of either pussy skateboarders who are scared about getting mud on there supra hoodys or just ones with jock 100% effort army style critic cunts who feel like they own skateboarding when there only 13 years old. Bottom line SJ is cool his footage is great and hes a human being who has to live.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: VictorOG on November 23, 2007, 02:13:44 PM
Did that page fuck up anyone else's eyes? When I went back to Slap after reading through that, everything has a pinkish tint to it.
Same thing happened to me.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: toque on November 23, 2007, 03:58:08 PM
Gabe rodriguez only had one full part  that being paco and I treasure every bit of footage he filmed


yeah i just watched that this morning and was pretty hyped on that section,  paulo too..........although it kind of makes me sad that he just kills paco in the end you know?  i know he isn't an evil guy and he was just acting but that still kind of bums me out......


i kind of liked reading all the long posts from those two guys, I like how jesse has all these points and uses some big words but still throws a lot of "hip hop"  type stuff in there.......
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: hubskateman on November 23, 2007, 05:03:42 PM
Does anyone know sj's super long part in what? a fit video right?

hasnt anyone mentioned that, part is like 4 min long!

dude ragging on johnston doesnt really skateboard, he's going into it far too much

Man, this skateboarder looked like he really tried so hard that day! I like him alot more than luigi!
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: bothersome on November 23, 2007, 05:13:35 PM
Mad Circle "Let the horns blow" and ftc penal code are scotts 2 longest parts.
his most talked about is 5 flavors imo.
Title: Re: SJ not giving the full 4 minutes
Post by: The Laps of Alps. on November 23, 2007, 05:38:41 PM
yeah but luigi is pretty good too cmon naw