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Re: Move over Supreme. $1400 Mama Skate pants are in town.
« Reply #960 on: August 25, 2023, 02:39:09 AM »
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Regardless of how you feel about her, the fact that people need to resort to gofundmes in this country for healthcare costs is so fucked up.
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Best economy in the world and it can't even afford a model resembling free healthcare for its citizens. What a joke lmao
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Don't think there's many countries that just give away free ACL surgeries. 
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It's not technically "free", but when I'm in the hospital I pay a fixed 25 euro per day rate regardless of whether I'm laying in bed or being operated on. All procedures included. And a couple of physio visits afterwards.
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And what's the waiting time/chances you'll ever actually get surgery?
Australia isn't as good as many places with it's free healthcare (altho still better than many others) and I've known many people (and been one myself) who are just on an endless waiting list for surgery and have had to find a way to take care of it privately or figure out a way to live without it. Even still with something like an ACL the options for free surgery may not involve something that can get you skateboarding etc and just be something that can get you able to work again.

I'd say, by comparison to a lot of countries, we ( Australia ) have a pretty decent setup. I've had so many injuries that required surgery over the years.

I fractured my wrist pretty badly a few months back. Did it on a Friday morning and was booked in for surgery on the Sunday. Plates, screws and all.

I have private health cover but I was able to chose to go public. Cost me a total of zero dollars and I waited a weekend.

Our taxes pay for this public healthcare. This included follow ups with the surgeon and options for physio as a follow up.

Again, this was all free and pretty quick. Also available to anyone.

It's just a shame that this same tax payer financed initiative is seen by many people in the US as being socialist by design. and you know, socialism seems to be a dirty word in America. Obamacare seemed like a good deal but it was shot down. Now ya'll are still stuck with bankrupting medical bills.

I hope it works out for you guys at some point.


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Re: Move over Supreme. $1400 Mama Skate pants are in town.
« Reply #961 on: August 25, 2023, 03:18:01 AM »
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Regardless of how you feel about her, the fact that people need to resort to gofundmes in this country for healthcare costs is so fucked up.
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Best economy in the world and it can't even afford a model resembling free healthcare for its citizens. What a joke lmao
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Don't think there's many countries that just give away free ACL surgeries. 
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It's not technically "free", but when I'm in the hospital I pay a fixed 25 euro per day rate regardless of whether I'm laying in bed or being operated on. All procedures included. And a couple of physio visits afterwards.
[close]
And what's the waiting time/chances you'll ever actually get surgery?
Australia isn't as good as many places with it's free healthcare (altho still better than many others) and I've known many people (and been one myself) who are just on an endless waiting list for surgery and have had to find a way to take care of it privately or figure out a way to live without it. Even still with something like an ACL the options for free surgery may not involve something that can get you skateboarding etc and just be something that can get you able to work again.
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I'd say, by comparison to a lot of countries, we ( Australia ) have a pretty decent setup. I've had so many injuries that required surgery over the years.

I fractured my wrist pretty badly a few months back. Did it on a Friday morning and was booked in for surgery on the Sunday. Plates, screws and all.

I have private health cover but I was able to chose to go public. Cost me a total of zero dollars and I waited a weekend.

Our taxes pay for this public healthcare. This included follow ups with the surgeon and options for physio as a follow up.

Again, this was all free and pretty quick. Also available to anyone.

It's just a shame that this same tax payer financed initiative is seen by many people in the US as being socialist by design. and you know, socialism seems to be a dirty word in America. Obamacare seemed like a good deal but it was shot down. Now ya'll are still stuck with bankrupting medical bills.

I hope it works out for you guys at some point.
Lol guess I'm just unlucky. There's a very long story I won't get into but took me over 2 years and thousands of dollars to get my wrist fixed. About a year and a half after I got my wrist surgery done privately I got a phone call telling my I finally got a date for my public surgery which would have been in another six months or so. I've known a few people who just learnt how to live with fucked knees too because they couldn't wait anymore for surgery.

I try not to hate on Aus healthcare it's def better than a huge amount of the world. Had a cancer scare (hate that term feels like stolen Valor) couple years back and managed to get a surgery done in just under 3 months but there's a follow up surgery I need to get that Ive been on the waiting list for for almost 3 years now. But that's more illness vs injury and covid stuff is still really slowing down the process

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point is it's not always this super easy cheap thing everyone day dreams about. There's a ton of luck involved.
It's a knee jerk reaction for me to "well actually..." I need to stop with seeing as a thread like this comes up every six weeks lol
« Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 03:28:59 AM by Mean salto »

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Re: Move over Supreme. $1400 Mama Skate pants are in town.
« Reply #962 on: August 25, 2023, 03:42:59 AM »
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Regardless of how you feel about her, the fact that people need to resort to gofundmes in this country for healthcare costs is so fucked up.
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Best economy in the world and it can't even afford a model resembling free healthcare for its citizens. What a joke lmao
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Don't think there's many countries that just give away free ACL surgeries. 
[close]

It's not technically "free", but when I'm in the hospital I pay a fixed 25 euro per day rate regardless of whether I'm laying in bed or being operated on. All procedures included. And a couple of physio visits afterwards.
[close]
And what's the waiting time/chances you'll ever actually get surgery?
Australia isn't as good as many places with it's free healthcare (altho still better than many others) and I've known many people (and been one myself) who are just on an endless waiting list for surgery and have had to find a way to take care of it privately or figure out a way to live without it. Even still with something like an ACL the options for free surgery may not involve something that can get you skateboarding etc and just be something that can get you able to work again.
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I'd say, by comparison to a lot of countries, we ( Australia ) have a pretty decent setup. I've had so many injuries that required surgery over the years.

I fractured my wrist pretty badly a few months back. Did it on a Friday morning and was booked in for surgery on the Sunday. Plates, screws and all.

I have private health cover but I was able to chose to go public. Cost me a total of zero dollars and I waited a weekend.

Our taxes pay for this public healthcare. This included follow ups with the surgeon and options for physio as a follow up.

Again, this was all free and pretty quick. Also available to anyone.

It's just a shame that this same tax payer financed initiative is seen by many people in the US as being socialist by design. and you know, socialism seems to be a dirty word in America. Obamacare seemed like a good deal but it was shot down. Now ya'll are still stuck with bankrupting medical bills.

I hope it works out for you guys at some point.
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Lol guess I'm just unlucky. There's a very long story I won't get into but took me over 2 years and thousands of dollars to get my wrist fixed. About a year and a half after I got my wrist surgery done privately I got a phone call telling my I finally got a date for my public surgery which would have been in another six months or so. I've known a few people who just learnt how to live with fucked knees too because they couldn't wait anymore for surgery.

I try not to hate on Aus healthcare it's def better than a huge amount of the world. Had a cancer scare (hate that term feels like stolen Valor) couple years back and managed to get a surgery done in just under 3 months but there's a follow up surgery I need to get that Ive been on the waiting list for for almost 3 years now. But that's more illness vs injury and covid stuff is still really slowing down the process

Edit: TLDR
point is it's not always this super easy cheap thing everyone day dreams about. There's a ton of luck involved.
It's a knee jerk reaction for me to "well actually..." I need to stop with seeing as a thread like this comes up every six weeks lol

It's hard when you are the person waiting but the thing to remember is that it is a triage system. Those who need it most are bumped up ahead of you to keep the nations general level of health to a certain standard.

By and large, that works. It's not flawless. But you are past the life or death part currently (Yes, I am pertaining to know your entire medical record from a single comment on a skateboard forum) so those in worse shape go above you.
I'm not trying to lecture you or put across that you don't know this.
Right now, you are waiting because someone else needs it more right now.

Like I say; it's hard when you are the person waiting but hopefully you are ok and able to manage enough to get by.

I'm from the UK. Three knee surgeries. A Broken arm. Some other odds and ends over the years.
I pay £9.65 currently for each prescribed medicine as I am employed. If I weren't employed, it would be free.
Hospitals, doctors, surgeries...even the crutches I walk out on...never paid a penny. Never waited too long, either.

I think each case with my knee has taken 6 months from the day I got hurt all the way through diagnosis to surgery to physio discharging me.

It's pretty good. It's paid for from my taxes are 20% of my income. I'm fine with that level of taxation for all the things it covers.

I've never thought about medical insurance once in my life. Ever.

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Re: Move over Supreme. $1400 Mama Skate pants are in town.
« Reply #963 on: August 25, 2023, 03:44:19 AM »
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Regardless of how you feel about her, the fact that people need to resort to gofundmes in this country for healthcare costs is so fucked up.
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Best economy in the world and it can't even afford a model resembling free healthcare for its citizens. What a joke lmao
[close]
Don't think there's many countries that just give away free ACL surgeries. 
[close]

It's not technically "free", but when I'm in the hospital I pay a fixed 25 euro per day rate regardless of whether I'm laying in bed or being operated on. All procedures included. And a couple of physio visits afterwards.
[close]
And what's the waiting time/chances you'll ever actually get surgery?
Australia isn't as good as many places with it's free healthcare (altho still better than many others) and I've known many people (and been one myself) who are just on an endless waiting list for surgery and have had to find a way to take care of it privately or figure out a way to live without it. Even still with something like an ACL the options for free surgery may not involve something that can get you skateboarding etc and just be something that can get you able to work again.
[close]

I'd say, by comparison to a lot of countries, we ( Australia ) have a pretty decent setup. I've had so many injuries that required surgery over the years.

I fractured my wrist pretty badly a few months back. Did it on a Friday morning and was booked in for surgery on the Sunday. Plates, screws and all.

I have private health cover but I was able to chose to go public. Cost me a total of zero dollars and I waited a weekend.

Our taxes pay for this public healthcare. This included follow ups with the surgeon and options for physio as a follow up.

Again, this was all free and pretty quick. Also available to anyone.

It's just a shame that this same tax payer financed initiative is seen by many people in the US as being socialist by design. and you know, socialism seems to be a dirty word in America. Obamacare seemed like a good deal but it was shot down. Now ya'll are still stuck with bankrupting medical bills.

I hope it works out for you guys at some point.
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Lol guess I'm just unlucky. There's a very long story I won't get into but took me over 2 years and thousands of dollars to get my wrist fixed. About a year and a half after I got my wrist surgery done privately I got a phone call telling my I finally got a date for my public surgery which would have been in another six months or so. I've known a few people who just learnt how to live with fucked knees too because they couldn't wait anymore for surgery.

I try not to hate on Aus healthcare it's def better than a huge amount of the world. Had a cancer scare (hate that term feels like stolen Valor) couple years back and managed to get a surgery done in just under 3 months but there's a follow up surgery I need to get that Ive been on the waiting list for for almost 3 years now. But that's more illness vs injury and covid stuff is still really slowing down the process

Edit: TLDR
point is it's not always this super easy cheap thing everyone day dreams about. There's a ton of luck involved.
It's a knee jerk reaction for me to "well actually..." I need to stop with seeing as a thread like this comes up every six weeks lol
[close]

It's hard when you are the person waiting but the thing to remember is that it is a triage system. Those who need it most are bumped up ahead of you to keep the nations general level of health to a certain standard.

By and large, that works. It's not flawless. But you are past the life or death part currently (Yes, I am pertaining to know your entire medical record from a single comment on a skateboard forum) so those in worse shape go above you.
I'm not trying to lecture you or put across that you don't know this.
Right now, you are waiting because someone else needs it more right now.

Like I say; it's hard when you are the person waiting but hopefully you are ok and able to manage enough to get by.

I'm from the UK. Three knee surgeries. A Broken arm. Some other odds and ends over the years.
I pay £9.65 currently for each prescribed medicine as I am employed. If I weren't employed, it would be free.
Hospitals, doctors, surgeries...even the crutches I walk out on...never paid a penny. Never waited too long, either.

I think each case with my knee has taken 6 months from the day I got hurt all the way through diagnosis to surgery to physio discharging me.

It's pretty good. It's paid for from my taxes are 20% of my income. I'm fine with that level of taxation for all the things it covers.

I've never thought about a need for medical insurance once in my life. Ever.

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Re: Move over Supreme. $1400 Mama Skate pants are in town.
« Reply #964 on: August 25, 2023, 03:52:35 AM »
Regardless of how you feel about her, the fact that people need to resort to gofundmes in this country for healthcare costs is so fucked up.


Oh but she doesn't 'need' the money, just doesn't want to pay for it herself. 

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Re: Move over Supreme. $1400 Mama Skate pants are in town.
« Reply #965 on: August 25, 2023, 04:20:17 AM »
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Regardless of how you feel about her, the fact that people need to resort to gofundmes in this country for healthcare costs is so fucked up.
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Best economy in the world and it can't even afford a model resembling free healthcare for its citizens. What a joke lmao
[close]
Don't think there's many countries that just give away free ACL surgeries. 
[close]

It's not technically "free", but when I'm in the hospital I pay a fixed 25 euro per day rate regardless of whether I'm laying in bed or being operated on. All procedures included. And a couple of physio visits afterwards.
[close]
And what's the waiting time/chances you'll ever actually get surgery?
Australia isn't as good as many places with it's free healthcare (altho still better than many others) and I've known many people (and been one myself) who are just on an endless waiting list for surgery and have had to find a way to take care of it privately or figure out a way to live without it. Even still with something like an ACL the options for free surgery may not involve something that can get you skateboarding etc and just be something that can get you able to work again.
[close]

I'd say, by comparison to a lot of countries, we ( Australia ) have a pretty decent setup. I've had so many injuries that required surgery over the years.

I fractured my wrist pretty badly a few months back. Did it on a Friday morning and was booked in for surgery on the Sunday. Plates, screws and all.

I have private health cover but I was able to chose to go public. Cost me a total of zero dollars and I waited a weekend.

Our taxes pay for this public healthcare. This included follow ups with the surgeon and options for physio as a follow up.

Again, this was all free and pretty quick. Also available to anyone.

It's just a shame that this same tax payer financed initiative is seen by many people in the US as being socialist by design. and you know, socialism seems to be a dirty word in America. Obamacare seemed like a good deal but it was shot down. Now ya'll are still stuck with bankrupting medical bills.

I hope it works out for you guys at some point.
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Lol guess I'm just unlucky. There's a very long story I won't get into but took me over 2 years and thousands of dollars to get my wrist fixed. About a year and a half after I got my wrist surgery done privately I got a phone call telling my I finally got a date for my public surgery which would have been in another six months or so. I've known a few people who just learnt how to live with fucked knees too because they couldn't wait anymore for surgery.

I try not to hate on Aus healthcare it's def better than a huge amount of the world. Had a cancer scare (hate that term feels like stolen Valor) couple years back and managed to get a surgery done in just under 3 months but there's a follow up surgery I need to get that Ive been on the waiting list for for almost 3 years now. But that's more illness vs injury and covid stuff is still really slowing down the process

Edit: TLDR
point is it's not always this super easy cheap thing everyone day dreams about. There's a ton of luck involved.
It's a knee jerk reaction for me to "well actually..." I need to stop with seeing as a thread like this comes up every six weeks lol
[close]

It's hard when you are the person waiting but the thing to remember is that it is a triage system. Those who need it most are bumped up ahead of you to keep the nations general level of health to a certain standard.

By and large, that works. It's not flawless. But you are past the life or death part currently (Yes, I am pertaining to know your entire medical record from a single comment on a skateboard forum) so those in worse shape go above you.
I'm not trying to lecture you or put across that you don't know this.
Right now, you are waiting because someone else needs it more right now.

Like I say; it's hard when you are the person waiting but hopefully you are ok and able to manage enough to get by.

I'm from the UK. Three knee surgeries. A Broken arm. Some other odds and ends over the years.
I pay £9.65 currently for each prescribed medicine as I am employed. If I weren't employed, it would be free.
Hospitals, doctors, surgeries...even the crutches I walk out on...never paid a penny. Never waited too long, either.

I think each case with my knee has taken 6 months from the day I got hurt all the way through diagnosis to surgery to physio discharging me.

It's pretty good. It's paid for from my taxes are 20% of my income. I'm fine with that level of taxation for all the things it covers.

I've never thought about medical insurance once in my life. Ever.
It's all good. That's kinda the point I was trying to make from the start.
 Knee injury is low priority so expect to wait a while.(and if you can't wait expect to pay) 
« Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 04:42:29 AM by Mean salto »