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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 08, 2024, 07:30:02 PM
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Who you got??
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I've never in my life heard of someone using mayo for a grilled cheese. Is this a regional thing? I voted the standard butter, but this may change in the next hour, after I try mayo.
Unrelated to the poll, but I like to slice up a tomato and putting it in the middle while it cooks.
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I was oh-so-briefly enraged by this until i saw the unanimous results.
Side question:
how do y’all feel about making it with sliced pickle inside? Is that still a grilled cheese or does it take on a new moniker?
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My coworker goes on regular grilled cheese making kicks and she adds arugula. Sometimes ham or bacon.
Here’s the part where I wish I could say I voted Fred Gall. ;)
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The only mayonnaise that is accepted is Miracle Whip. Because sugar.
Whose nasty ass is heating up mayonnaise and eating it? Probably the same people who microwave fish.
Gross.
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Well, mayo on a hamburger bun face down and heated on the a skillet is next level when making cheeseburger.
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Well, mayo on a hamburger bun face down and heated on the a skillet is next level when making cheeseburger.
I’m going to send you to Neptune: have you cooked hamburger patty in a cast iron skillet with clarified butter? It makes the burger have little crispies.
It makes an awful mess splattering, but damn is it worth it.
(I’m ignoring you said to put mayonnaise on the bun and cook it. I can’t believe you also microwave your fish and torture everyone in the office, you monster)
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My grandma used to make me grilled pastrami melts on rye with the mayo technique and they were out of this world delicious. That being said I’ve never attempted it myself, I always use Kerry gold butter for those types of things.
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Great topic.
Was a butter guy for the longest time but after trying mayo, done deal.
Easier to spread, browns up real nice. Mayo is awesome.
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Dry, just cheese and bread with a bit of mustard for dipping. Also only in the pub after a load of pints. If you even been to Ireland you know.
God I'd love pints in Grogans on William St in Dublin right now with a toastie.
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Great topic.
Was a butter guy for the longest time but after trying mayo, done deal.
Easier to spread, browns up real nice. Mayo is awesome.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
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Butter, two slices of cheese and a slice or two of smoked ham. Nothing else.
Mayo can frig off.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
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Butter, maybe some whole grain mustard or sliced tomato if I’m feeling luxurious
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Are we talking inside the grilled cheese or on the outside for crisping? I just make a regular old grilled cheese using good country white bread, then a tiny amount of Duke's mayo on the outsides to get it crispy on the cast iron.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
Yeah not gonna use cheese board quality cheddar. The mild stuff works great, I shred it and use it for nachos all the time as well.
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Mayo me
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Mayo spends on and looks better after cooking but tasted fattier than it should, I was one and done after that experiment.
I'll just leave the butter out for a few minutes for it to soften. Or I'll just use a low heat on the pan and use the butter as the fat to fry the sandwich in, toss in a nob of it before flipping to grill the other side.
For greens I prefer a heartier, easier to assemble leafy vege like baby spinach or rocket. Lettuce elevates the bread unevenly and usually spills out during the flip. Even if some of the rocket creeps out and gets lightly toasted it taste great.
Adding greens to a grilled cheese may be a sin, venturing into BLT territory, but I'm trying to get all my food groups in here.
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My first time trying mayo turned out to be a low fat mayo so the bread never even crisped up. Even tho it was my fault I'm committed to butter forever now
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I was oh-so-briefly enraged by this until i saw the unanimous results.
Side question:
how do y’all feel about making it with sliced pickle inside? Is that still a grilled cheese or does it take on a new moniker?
Pickle, ham and spicy bbq sauce maybe even supermarket big Mac sauce. If a plain cheese can still be counted as a pizza then adding extra bits to a sandwich should count as a toasted cheese
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A little bit of mayo on the outside of the bread and melted butter in the pan.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
American + mozz or provolone combo. Ultimate meltiness. Cheddar is most common in my fridge tho.
BUT if you don't have any tomato soup, this is all irrelevant since the sandwich loses about 50% of its allure without it
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An intense desire for grilled cheese and tomato soup comes out of nowhere to me at least a few times per year, much like the insatiable urge to eat clam chowder out of a sourdough bread bowl. Butter or mayo is cool. Mayo is great when you don't want to wait for the butter to get soft.
Once the thought takes over, you must feed the need.
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Mayo here, I find it toasts nicely and easier to spread. Also don't be afraid to experiment with different cheeses. I had a grilled cheese at Seatac airport a few weeks ago that had 4 different cheeses including brie which was quite delicious.
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Butter in the pan
Mayo inside the sandwich
I know, I’m gross
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What exactly is a 'grilled cheese's
Like, is it a piece of bread, with cheese and you put it in the oven under the griller?
Or like two pieces of bread, with cheese in the middle and you put it in the sandwich press?
Cause a toasted sandwich with ham/cheese/tomato is great. I like it with Jarslberg. My favourite cheese.
The Mayo thing I am not getting though. Mayo is for like cold sandwiches and wraps and salads, no?
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What exactly is a 'grilled cheese's
Like, is it a piece of bread, with cheese and you put it in the oven under the griller?
Or like two pieces of bread, with cheese in the middle and you put it in the sandwich press?
Cause a toasted sandwich with ham/cheese/tomato is great. I like it with Jarslberg. My favourite cheese.
The Mayo thing I am not getting though. Mayo is for like cold sandwiches and wraps and salads, no?
Never had mayo on something like a burger or hot turkey sandwich? Plain ass mayo in a salad never sat right with me...
The idea is basically using the fat in the mayo to fry and crisp the bread. Adds more tang than the classic butter, but also has a chance of going soggy if it isn't hot enough fast enough.
Risk v reward isn't worth it, imo
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
Yeah not gonna use cheese board quality cheddar. The mild stuff works great, I shred it and use it for nachos all the time as well.
Ched on nach is mand
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I never even knew mayo was a thing for grilled cheese until I really started to learn how to cook. Once I tried it, that was it for me, mayo all the way. It does everything that you want the butter to do, plus it gives it a slightly acidic bite along with the egginess. I'm also a nerd and will only eat mayo that I have made from scratch. Store bought is gross to me.
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Butter on the outside, mayo on the inside……
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Butter for me but like someone said earlier I like to put some tomato on the inside as well. Sometimes pickles. Been a minute since I've made a good grilled cheese though gonna have to come correct this weekend maybe.
As for the cheese, I would say anything goes everyones taste is different. Used to do dill havarti and cheddar pretty often, that shit was A+.
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Tomatoes are a good shout. Loads of pubs in Ireland also do cheese and ham toasties.
I'm gonna buy a toastie machine this week.
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Butter guy will try mayo asap.
I put a thin slice of creamy blue cheese into mine.
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Mayo once in a while.
Light butter. In the foreman grill if possible.
Horseradish Cheddar with sides. Sauteed sweet onions and peppers with mushrooms.
Yes yes yes.
Ev Olive oil over Mayo too
Especially if it's been used for the veggies.
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I don't fuck with it but banana mayo is a thing....
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The idea of this stuff as a dip/condiment disgusts me, but it could actually work in this scenario;
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/04/mayochup-heinz.jpg)
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I'd try it. I'm down to try anything that's not sea life.
I cannot never have been able to other than a tuna grinder.
That's a tuna sub with provolone melted across the top. I like mine LTPO mushrooms and sometimes extra veggies.
I wanna try to do cheddar cheese melt with shaved apple slices on like sourdough.
We need a grilled cheese chain
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I'd try it. I'm down to try anything that's not sea life.
I cannot never have been able to other than a tuna grinder.
That's a tuna sub with provolone melted across the top. I like mine LTPO mushrooms and sometimes extra veggies.
I wanna try to do cheddar cheese melt with shaved apple slices on like sourdough.
We need a grilled cheese chain
We could call it "Cheezus Christ"
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The only mayonnaise that is accepted is Miracle Whip. Because sugar.
Whose nasty ass is heating up mayonnaise and eating it? Probably the same people who microwave fish.
Gross.
miracle whip ruins everything it touches
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Miracle Whip was my gateway to real mayo. Actual mayo grossed me out, but the sweetness/artificialness of Miracle Whip on a BLT hit the spot for some reason. Eventually I started ordering proper club sandwiches, aiolis, etc and I was converted. Might fuck around and buy some MW for old time’s sake.
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The idea of this stuff as a dip/condiment disgusts me, but it could actually work in this scenario;
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/04/mayochup-heinz.jpg)
I laughed out loud the first time I heard this product. What like 5 no more than 10 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRntutn8udw
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I just made a grilled cheese with tomato using miracle whip. I didn't really notice a big difference. I would like to try this with real mayo sometime. I rarely use it and usually would just buy what's on sale.
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I grew up on butter but tried Mayo for a bit and it was just slightly off so I went back to butter.
I’m a firm believer that a “grilled cheese” only has cheese in it. If you add anything else, then it’s a toasted whatever-sandwich.
I love grilled cheeses and toasted sandwiches with all sorts of cheese but nothing compares to American cheese. It’s so comforting as an American. I rediscovered it over the pandemic so I always have Kraft singles in my fridge now. It’s always a good idea to just go make a grilled cheese when we you just need something to eat without a lot of effort.
In the Netherlands, they have toasties at bars, which are close to American paninis and they’re awesome.
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I've used olive oil to brown the bread when I didn't have butter. It tasted pretty good. I think anything oily like butter, mayo, olive oil can do the job but with slightly different flavors. I dip my grilled cheese sandwiches in mayo ketchup mixed together sometimes with some hot sauce in there too.
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What’s that ham and cheese dipped in egg sandwich called? Now that’s a sandwich…..
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What’s that ham and cheese dipped in egg sandwich called? Now that’s a sandwich…..
Monte Cristo.
And it needs a berry jam to spread or dip in afterwards.
That is indeed a sandwich.
(And I’m sorry, as appealing as you all are making the mayonnaise sound on a grilled cheese… I cannot in good conscience defile my butter on the outside, cheese on the inside, perfectly crisped and melted grilled cheese sandwich made expertly on a cast iron skillet. *with a side of tomato soup. You genius whoever mentioned that)
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I've used olive oil to brown the bread when I didn't have butter. It tasted pretty good. I think anything oily like butter, mayo, olive oil can do the job but with slightly different flavors. I dip my grilled cheese sandwiches in mayo ketchup mixed together sometimes with some hot sauce in there too.
Olive oil drizzle on a good hearty toasted slice with a little salt is so good. Highly recommended. Just not on white bread, some kind of whole grain, hearty wheat, something with seeds in it. That kinda thing.
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What’s that ham and cheese dipped in egg sandwich called? Now that’s a sandwich…..
And it needs a berry jam to spread or dip in afterwards.
That is indeed a sandwich.
(And I’m sorry, as appealing as you all are making the mayonnaise sound on a grilled cheese… I cannot in good conscience defile my butter on the outside, cheese on the inside, perfectly crisped and melted grilled cheese sandwich made expertly on a cast iron skillet. *with a side of tomato soup. You genius whoever mentioned that)
a side of tomato soup recognizes the need for some tanginess......
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Monte Cristo's are ULT
Basically a french toast melt. A sprinkle of powdered sugar and syrup or jam to dip.
Reminds me of the time i got a donut bacon grilled cheese at the fair. Heart stopping fs, but damn tasty.
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What’s that ham and cheese dipped in egg sandwich called? Now that’s a sandwich…..
And it needs a berry jam to spread or dip in afterwards.
That is indeed a sandwich.
(And I’m sorry, as appealing as you all are making the mayonnaise sound on a grilled cheese… I cannot in good conscience defile my butter on the outside, cheese on the inside, perfectly crisped and melted grilled cheese sandwich made expertly on a cast iron skillet. *with a side of tomato soup. You genius whoever mentioned that)
a side of tomato soup recognizes the need for some tanginess......
Well SOMEbody grew up with “If You Give a Mouse a Cookie” 8)
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
Yeah not gonna use cheese board quality cheddar. The mild stuff works great, I shred it and use it for nachos all the time as well.
Ched on nach is mand
You ok, bud?
Back to business:
Down for butter or mayo. To be honest, it’snot that much of a difference. Olive oil as a fat in the pan is a tasty alternative - not sure if this still counts as a grilled cheese.
American cheese or Kraft cheese slices are nice, but don’t have enough taste for me. Medium cheddar or medium Gouda is a better choice imo
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I remember talking to someone who moved here from France and she was so angry about Cheese in America….. ‘we have a hundred different cheeses….you just have ORANGE! Why?!.’
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butter every time....tried the mayo thing, didn't like it.
Funny thing is, in the uk we cook our cheese on toast under the grill (broiler ) ........where as our yankee friends fry their cheese sandwiches, and call them grilled. Its a bit like the whole pants / underwear confusion. Cheese on toast is an open sandwich, where as a 'cheese toastie' is our equivalent to the grilled cheese. As they say, two nations divided by a common language.
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butter every time....tried the mayo thing, didn't like it.
Funny thing is, in the uk we cook our cheese on toast under the grill (broiler ) ........where as our yankee friends fry their cheese sandwiches, and call them grilled. Its a bit like the whole pants / underwear confusion. Cheese on toast is an open sandwich, where as a 'cheese toastie' is our equivalent to the grilled cheese. As they say, two nations divided by a common language.
As a yank, a fried cheese sandwich doesn't have the same ring as a grilled cheese, even if it's more technically accurate.
Cheese toastie sounds dry af to my ears.
Do you eat those style sandwiches with a side of beans?
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Mayo feels very much like the V2 for me
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butter every time....tried the mayo thing, didn't like it.
Funny thing is, in the uk we cook our cheese on toast under the grill (broiler ) ........where as our yankee friends fry their cheese sandwiches, and call them grilled. Its a bit like the whole pants / underwear confusion. Cheese on toast is an open sandwich, where as a 'cheese toastie' is our equivalent to the grilled cheese. As they say, two nations divided by a common language.
As a yank, a fried cheese sandwich doesn't have the same ring as a grilled cheese, even if it's more technically accurate.
Cheese toastie sounds dry af to my ears.
Do you eat those style sandwiches with a side of beans?
a cheese toastie is 'dry' as you say, but delicious none the less.
Sure, serve cheese on toast with baked-beans, but that elevates it to a meal, rather than a snack. In this scenario I would probably got for beans on toast and garnish with grated cheese. Basically switch stance on the ingredients.
Anybody for Welsh rarebit?
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grew up on butter, store brand white bread and american cheese (sometimes white, sometimes yellow).
lately ive been trying to recreate the grilled cheese that i used to get at my fav old restaurant (RIP).
been doing different breads, thicker breads, and just bought half a loaf of sourdough to try that. also been doing different cheese - usually 2-3 at a time. as i understand it from an old employee, they used nice bread from a local bakery and did swiss, jack and a mild cheddar but i dont know how accurate that is based on what ive tried.
off to the kitchen i go! tonight its sourdough bread with a yellow kraft single, with some shredded monterrey jack and cheddar lightly sprinkled on top before i add the second piece of bread and flip it. will update tomorrow.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
Yeah not gonna use cheese board quality cheddar. The mild stuff works great, I shred it and use it for nachos all the time as well.
Ched on nach is mand
You ok, bud?
Back to business:
Down for butter or mayo. To be honest, it’snot that much of a difference. Olive oil as a fat in the pan is a tasty alternative - not sure if this still counts as a grilled cheese.
American cheese or Kraft cheese slices are nice, but don’t have enough taste for me. Medium cheddar or medium Gouda is a better choice imo
Olive oil only for a savory bread preferably with pine nuts and seeds on the crust, white bread has as a higher sugar content that clashes with the earthiness of the olive oil IMO.
Still a little bit away from lunch but I'm hankering for a grill cheese right now.
Edit: Olive oil works pretty good, doesn't get as nice of a fry on the bread like butter but the higher smoke point makes it easier to manage while giving the cheese more time to melt. Flavor wise butter wins hands down.
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
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Yah know what really taked grilled cheese to the next level? Homemade tomato soup.
Rip & Dip
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A lil yellow mustard inside is pretty nice.
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Butter is top tier, I've heard of mayonnaise on a cooking channel for grilled cheese and I tried mayo once it's not too bad it gives a nice crispiness the egg whites from mayo also has a neutral taste when frying.,
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
Yeah not gonna use cheese board quality cheddar. The mild stuff works great, I shred it and use it for nachos all the time as well.
Ched on nach is mand
You ok, bud?
Back to business:
Down for butter or mayo. To be honest, it’snot that much of a difference. Olive oil as a fat in the pan is a tasty alternative - not sure if this still counts as a grilled cheese.
American cheese or Kraft cheese slices are nice, but don’t have enough taste for me. Medium cheddar or medium Gouda is a better choice imo
Olive oil only for a savory bread preferably with pine nuts and seeds on the crust, white bread has as a higher sugar content that clashes with the earthiness of the olive oil IMO.
Still a little bit away from lunch but I'm hankering for a grill cheese right now.
Edit: Olive oil works pretty good, doesn't get as nice of a fry on the bread like butter but the higher smoke point makes it easier to manage while giving the cheese more time to melt. Flavor wise butter wins hands down.
depends on what qualifies as a white bread, where you live. If this is in the toast sandwich bread region, i absolutely agree. If the white bread is more towards ciabatta, i'd disagree. but i must admit that we would have left grilled cheese territory entirely then
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
Im from the Netherlands
What even is american cheese (these days)
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
Im from the Netherlands
What even is american cheese (these days)
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and Despair
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/06/03/magazine/03wmt/mag-03WMT-t_CA0-superJumbo.jpg)
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
Im from the Netherlands
What even is american cheese (these days)
Yeah, the key part is real "grilled cheese," not real cheese. The Netherlands has great cheese. A lot of which makes for great grilled cheeses and great toasties. But they're not a real grilled cheese the way that that plastic stuff is.
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Butter.
If you're not using american cheese on your GC you should be thrown in jail.
I think Brits call them cheese toasties. Jolly good.
Whats the Euro equivalent to american cheese?
Cheddar ?
I think a mild cheddar would work. But if you go too sharp/aged, cheddar gets more crumbly, oily, and runny.
Yeah not gonna use cheese board quality cheddar. The mild stuff works great, I shred it and use it for nachos all the time as well.
Ched on nach is mand
You ok, bud?
Back to business:
Down for butter or mayo. To be honest, it’snot that much of a difference. Olive oil as a fat in the pan is a tasty alternative - not sure if this still counts as a grilled cheese.
American cheese or Kraft cheese slices are nice, but don’t have enough taste for me. Medium cheddar or medium Gouda is a better choice imo
Olive oil only for a savory bread preferably with pine nuts and seeds on the crust, white bread has as a higher sugar content that clashes with the earthiness of the olive oil IMO.
Still a little bit away from lunch but I'm hankering for a grill cheese right now.
Edit: Olive oil works pretty good, doesn't get as nice of a fry on the bread like butter but the higher smoke point makes it easier to manage while giving the cheese more time to melt. Flavor wise butter wins hands down.
depends on what qualifies as a white bread, where you live. If this is in the toast sandwich bread region, i absolutely agree. If the white bread is more towards ciabatta, i'd disagree. but i must admit that we would have left grilled cheese territory entirely then
The store bought white bread we get is sliced, sugary and loaded with preservatives, only the legit stuff for grilled cheese sandoozles.
This thread would make the grilled cheese purist on Reddit lose their shit, but Slap isn't a slave to tradition or rules!
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I made one the other day with sharp cheddar and apple butter on multigrain with butter and it was like a dessert grilled cheese. Worth trying IMO.
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
Im from the Netherlands
What even is american cheese (these days)
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and Despair
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/06/03/magazine/03wmt/mag-03WMT-t_CA0-superJumbo.jpg)
If my grilled cheese isn't topped with micro plastics is it even a real American sandwich!?
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
Im from the Netherlands
What even is american cheese (these days)
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and Despair
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/06/03/magazine/03wmt/mag-03WMT-t_CA0-superJumbo.jpg)
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/Van-Aken-Modeling-Clay-1-lb-Yellow_71048033-68ce-453b-be51-d491e71a6d11_1.9ee59bff29d86c5427a5b382e7840884.jpeg)
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I’ve done the mayo on a grilled cheese and it works well, tastes really good, and is harder to burn, but I just prefer butter more. Ideally enough that it leaves some grease on your fingers after you eat it.
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Don't think i could even get american cheese over here, whatever it is
Sucks you can't have a real grilled cheese then.
Im from the Netherlands
What even is american cheese (these days)
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and Despair
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/06/03/magazine/03wmt/mag-03WMT-t_CA0-superJumbo.jpg)
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/Van-Aken-Modeling-Clay-1-lb-Yellow_71048033-68ce-453b-be51-d491e71a6d11_1.9ee59bff29d86c5427a5b382e7840884.jpeg)
Now we're getting somewhere...
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Fuck it, I use both.
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there's a "fried mayo" joke about SLAP in here somewhere but i dont got it
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there's a "fried mayo" joke about SLAP in here somewhere but i dont got it
That would actually be a great username…