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Title: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 09:37:41 AM
just curious anyone know anything?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mean salto on February 08, 2022, 09:47:56 AM
Nazis. It's all Nazis.
https://youtu.be/Iwxsay44LUY
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: roomservice on February 08, 2022, 09:48:37 AM
gator killed his girlfriend
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 09:52:52 AM
gator killed his girlfriend
Damn just found out about this skater, wasn't as filled in on who he was but this is pretty dark gonna read into it more online hella curious
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 09:55:21 AM
Nazis. It's all Nazis.
https://youtu.be/Iwxsay44LUY
tf this was crazy to see didnt think the two would ever collide
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on February 08, 2022, 10:05:01 AM
Han shoots first
(https://i.ibb.co/2y1dwGC/han.gif) (https://ibb.co/DtHQN0v)
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Post by: lilboosie on February 08, 2022, 10:27:04 AM
One time I saw colt cannon wearing cargo khakis and circas, so I bought cargo khakis and circas
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 10:30:08 AM
One time I saw colt cannon wearing cargo khakis and circas, so I bought cargo khakis and circas
i mean i dont blame you best combo out there to this day.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on February 08, 2022, 10:38:17 AM
andrew langi stole nick merlino's laptop and denied it, but then returned it when confronted again.

ps ps ps ps kitty!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: WPG on February 08, 2022, 10:49:05 AM
Van Wastell death :(

Gershon Mosley/ Andrew Reynolds incident
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2018/08/14/happened-gershon-mosley/

Anyone have info on Tosh Townend car crash? Only heard about that one recently and it bummed me out, but I haven’t found any concrete details about it
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheDingus on February 08, 2022, 10:51:32 AM
Focus this thread. So fucking dumb.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: GardenSkater77 on February 08, 2022, 11:02:02 AM
Heath never landed a trick. It was all computers.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 08, 2022, 11:06:05 AM
Heath never landed a trick. It was all computers.


My first local skateshop was run by a guy who actually did believe that all skate videos were just CGI.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 11:09:23 AM
andrew langi stole nick merlino's laptop and denied it, but then returned it when confronted again.

ps ps ps ps kitty!
damn found an old rumour about it on another thread did this really happen? is it in an interview anywhere?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on February 08, 2022, 11:11:03 AM
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andrew langi stole nick merlino's laptop and denied it, but then returned it when confronted again.

ps ps ps ps kitty!
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damn found an old rumour about it on another thread did this really happen? is it in an interview anywhere?

nick's free lunch
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Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 11:12:22 AM
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Heath never landed a trick. It was all computers.
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My first local skateshop was run by a guy who actually did believe that all skate videos were just CGI.
haha i wonder if these people still exist
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mr. Stinky on February 08, 2022, 11:14:57 AM
Snuggle Bandit.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cynical cow on February 08, 2022, 11:15:23 AM
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gator killed his girlfriend
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Damn just found out about this skater, wasn't as filled in on who he was but this is pretty dark gonna read into it more online hella curious
There is a documentary about it
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on February 08, 2022, 11:15:24 AM
Van Wastell death :(

Gershon Mosley/ Andrew Reynolds incident
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2018/08/14/happened-gershon-mosley/

Anyone have info on Tosh Townend car crash? Only heard about that one recently and it bummed me out, but I haven’t found any concrete details about it

damn. lines up with my impressions upon meeting reynolds a few times. maybe the dude is just harboring some demons. amazing skater nonetheless
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lowcalcium on February 08, 2022, 11:24:06 AM
Read this: https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/10/31/the-good-bad-and-the-ugly-shiloh-greathouse/

Truly haunting:

 "In 1991 I did a demo in Virginia with Rodney Mullen, Kareem Campbell, Chris Pastras and Jason Lee. This trip marked a moment in my life I’ll never forget – not because who was on it but because of what I encountered in the outskirts of Virginia."

I hit up Shiloh like a man on IG, but he couldn't remember where in VA this transpired.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: KGB on February 08, 2022, 11:27:21 AM
If you drink and skate it gives you superpowers. It really makes your coordination spot on.
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Post by: Paul Cicero on February 08, 2022, 11:29:39 AM
Read this: https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/10/31/the-good-bad-and-the-ugly-shiloh-greathouse/

Truly haunting:

 "In 1991 I did a demo in Virginia with Rodney Mullen, Kareem Campbell, Chris Pastras and Jason Lee. This trip marked a moment in my life I’ll never forget – not because who was on it but because of what I encountered in the outskirts of Virginia."

I hit up Shiloh like a man on IG, but he couldn't remember where in VA this transpired.

FUCK
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
Read this: https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/10/31/the-good-bad-and-the-ugly-shiloh-greathouse/

Truly haunting:

 "In 1991 I did a demo in Virginia with Rodney Mullen, Kareem Campbell, Chris Pastras and Jason Lee. This trip marked a moment in my life I’ll never forget – not because who was on it but because of what I encountered in the outskirts of Virginia."

I hit up Shiloh like a man on IG, but he couldn't remember where in VA this transpired.
damn thats a pretty interesting read thanks hahah
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on February 08, 2022, 11:33:07 AM
https://secondhandembarrassment.blogspot.com/2010/02/casper-friendly-ghost.html
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on February 08, 2022, 11:34:20 AM
http://fflzine.blogspot.com/2012/05/jordan-richter-interview-pt-2.html
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jerrygurneyscream on February 08, 2022, 11:40:24 AM
this forums is many mean times to users... i seen that lots of u make insult to every sk8r on website this,, i haev a story that u shud have hearing



that girl you called a slut in class today...she is pussy broke. the boy you called lame...he can do a hamstand. ... that girl you pushed down the other day...she dead ,,. that girl you called fat..she dad is fedding her icecream 2nite. the old man you made fun of cause of the ugly scars... he is a gost.. the boy you made fun of for crying...he was cut onion.. ..you think you know them. guess what? you don't!

so please think about what you say and done in online an in neighberhood (in real life). thx.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: versacekid420 on February 08, 2022, 11:41:20 AM
dane burman poked holes in chris wimers cup
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: tuesday on February 08, 2022, 11:43:33 AM
Just one word: magnets
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheDraught on February 08, 2022, 11:43:45 AM
Before Nike SB crashed the party, the whole skateboard industry was controlled by just 4 former pro freestylers.

Welinder, Pierre André, Mullen and Rocco.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 11:44:46 AM
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this forums is many mean times to users... i seen that lots of u make insult to every sk8r on website this,, i haev a story that u shud have hearing



that girl you called a slut in class today...she is pussy broke. the boy you called lame...he can do a hamstand. ... that girl you pushed down the other day...she dead ,,. that girl you called fat..she dad is fedding her icecream 2nite. the old man you made fun of cause of the ugly scars... he is a gost.. the boy you made fun of for crying...he was cut onion.. ..you think you know them. guess what? you don't!

so please think about what you say and done in online an in neighberhood (in real life). thx.
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so deep good read
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man! on February 08, 2022, 11:47:51 AM
Grant Taylor is better than Ishod.

Jason Dill is a phony

Prod on Jordan

Tom Know of Isle
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
Before Nike SB crashed the party, the whole skateboard industry was controlled by just 4 former pro freestylers.

Welinder, Pierre André, Mullen and Rocco.

the 4 Monarchs, Nike should just leave they never belonged here in the first place ngl
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: steeloctopus on February 08, 2022, 11:51:12 AM
Some Brazilian tech bros started a shoe brand and plastered their logo all over the berries.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: PuffinMuffin on February 08, 2022, 11:56:16 AM
Hard to believe that rainbow_equality post is almost a decade old. The real dark obscure fact is we're old as fuck, and will soon be dead and forgotten.  :(
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 12:03:02 PM
Grant Taylor is better than Ishod.

Jason Dill is a phony

Prod on Jordan

Tom Know of Isle

"jason dill is a phony" absolutely %0 false
 and %100 true
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Prostate Exam on February 08, 2022, 12:13:46 PM
RedBull doesn't give you wings, just pound some white claws at a Wu-Tang concert instead
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mr. Stinky on February 08, 2022, 12:14:18 PM
Hard to believe that rainbow_equality post is almost a decade old. The real dark obscure fact is we're old as fuck, and will soon be dead and forgotten.  :(

All of us will someday join the old man with ugly scars as gost.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on February 08, 2022, 12:15:19 PM
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Before Nike SB crashed the party, the whole skateboard industry was controlled by just 4 former pro freestylers.

Welinder, Pierre André, Mullen and Rocco.
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the 4 Monarchs, Nike should just leave they never belonged here in the first place ngl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNFn2mPDhr4
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheLurper on February 08, 2022, 12:25:14 PM
I heard the skate scenes in Gleaming the Cube weren't actually done by Christian Slater.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: DannyDee on February 08, 2022, 12:32:55 PM
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Before Nike SB crashed the party, the whole skateboard industry was controlled by just 4 former pro freestylers.

Welinder, Pierre André, Mullen and Rocco.
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the 4 Monarchs, Nike should just leave they never belonged here in the first place ngl
It was broken before NikeSB entered. DVS/Lakai under Platinum (surfers and Tim Gavin) wasn't freestylers and prior to that DC (Damon Way and Ken Block).
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BapBoy on February 08, 2022, 12:41:49 PM
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Before Nike SB crashed the party, the whole skateboard industry was controlled by just 4 former pro freestylers.

Welinder, Pierre André, Mullen and Rocco.
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the 4 Monarchs, Nike should just leave they never belonged here in the first place ngl
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It was broken before NikeSB entered. DVS/Lakai under Platinum (surfers and Tim Gavin) wasn't freestylers and prior to that DC (Damon Way and Ken Block).
yeah still doesn't change the fact they don't belong here 
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: The real veganshawn on February 08, 2022, 12:54:53 PM
gator killed his girlfriend
When?? I know he killed her friend
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on February 08, 2022, 12:56:49 PM
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gator killed his girlfriend
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When?? I know he killed her friend

True, Brandi is still alived.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: mattchew on February 08, 2022, 12:57:24 PM
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gator killed his girlfriend
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When?? I know he killed her friend

Yeah this bothered me, Gator murdered his girlfriends close friend. Even more fucked up tbh.
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Post by: Ankle_Lift on February 08, 2022, 01:46:05 PM
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Heath never landed a trick. It was all computers.
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My first local skateshop was run by a guy who actually did believe that all skate videos were just CGI.
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haha i wonder if these people still exist

Absolutely they do. A guy I work with was legitimately telling us one lunch break that 9/11 was actually CGI and didn't actually happen. He had recently watched a YouTube video about it.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 08, 2022, 02:24:31 PM
Heath never landed a trick. It was all computers.

This is how it was done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MH8WVrD5I
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on February 08, 2022, 02:33:54 PM
It’s been on here before but DLX caught some pretty heavy shit from the Hells Angels ( either from lawyers or actual members depending on the story)  for using Hells Angels symbols on a REAL board. I have a pic somewhere of the graphic…

There are multiple stories about people kooking themselves out of the industry by sleeping with girlfriends / wives etc…

Edit..

(https://i.ibb.co/2hQKvvY/E0-BB91-FE-5616-49-AD-8866-D08924-F188-C0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/54ycrrx)

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Post by: Faxmachine on February 08, 2022, 02:42:11 PM
Gator He killed and necrophilla the person he killed. That’s Nasty. Tha Dude Couldn’t  Even Ollie. Learn to Ollie.Slap pies are cool but Ollie’s is betters you will be better even if it’s just cuz you be better then mark  Anthony and his bitch ass no Ollie psycho vibes.
Skateboarding like punk rock has been a place where nazis been hiding out in plain site. Jason Jesse and even Indy trucks symbol is that shit. But that came from punk. Punk has always given a pass to the nazis. Before I forget why did Cory duffel have that skull with the Nazi cap to smash in the first place? Punk rock and nazis kissing  in a tree. Id be lying if I said I’ve never seen any punk people wearing swastikas. Never saw Darby crash or souise and the banshee wearing that shit. Pretty sure the Sex Pistols never wore that shit either. No reason dead kenedys sang a song about “nazi punks fuck off” No nazi problem there I guess. But I mean the voice of the the suburbs into music is punk. Punk is suburban music. Why is just all 80s Ronald Regan talking though a snotty kids voice and the nazi pass given is weird. I don’t think there is like A nazi vibe other music seens. Like No one’s gonna hand you a hard core vegan zine with Some super racist fascist shit tuck into it between band interviews at the wutang show but they might at that earth crisis opens for slayer or Metallica show. Well. I guess  Let’s talk about raves. That shit was dumb fun. When the raves came out in the USA we went crazy. the rave age was amazing. It was The first time we saw pressure  flips and xtc Everyone in the questionable video besides Rodney was high as a kite on xtc.
Duffy wasn’t just grinding rails he was also grinding his teeth grinding them rails rave on  but let’s be Drugs. Lot of drugs and that lifestyle promoted. Skateboarding is a drug tooJulian Stranger isn’t his real name. jeremey Klein got jarret berry kicked off birdhouse cuz he is gay.
That wasn’t really Ron Allen’s father
Just some sort of racist joke made by white peoples
Steve Berra cried when the bird man hit the apple weed pipe.
1 out of 5 of your favorite skaters has herpes or beats women
Tony hawk didn’t do the loop first
Skateboarding isn’t a career
Heath kirchart shit in Leigh Petersons backpack on tour and that was the last we saw of Leigh. He hates skateboarding Now Don’t be like Leigh. Don’t let shit bother you. But honestly
Johna hill has convinced people he skated and that bothers me. He is an actor. He be acting good. He don’t skate. He ain’t about it. Never let posers throw flags.
Jim Theilbald makes his riders apologize for woke points or fear of cancel cuz they rapped along to a song with the n word.Danny Way has a pet brick in the closet and never send your kid too Woodward. It  has a pedo problem
Neil Hendrix and Brian Patch are free
 Terry Kennedy  killed a man and Slap message board Pals  used to collectively mock his mental illness. Shalom






Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: DannyDee on February 08, 2022, 02:58:18 PM
It’s been on here before but DLX caught some pretty heavy shit from the Hells Angels ( either from lawyers or actual members depending on the story)  for using Hells Angels symbols on a REAL board. I have a pic somewhere of the graphic…

There are multiple stories about people kooking themselves out of the industry by sleeping with girlfriends / wives etc…

Edit..

(https://i.ibb.co/2hQKvvY/E0-BB91-FE-5616-49-AD-8866-D08924-F188-C0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/54ycrrx)
I get skateboarding has always had some edgelord stuff to their graphics. But, I would have thought anyone who lived in the Bay Area would realize how dumb an idea this actually is. Not just for the company, but for the idiot kid who bought it and might be spotted (potentially not even realizing its significance at the time of purchase).
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Post by: pro club blanks on February 08, 2022, 03:03:24 PM
Ronson Lambert doesnt like skateboarding anymore because of Bronze 56k
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Post by: $$LESH on February 08, 2022, 03:05:46 PM
tony hawk married tanner burzinskis mom so him and riley are step brothers. not dark but sure is obscure
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 08, 2022, 03:08:36 PM
skateboard hardware is not specifically designed for skateboards
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: JANUS on February 08, 2022, 03:14:04 PM
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Hard to believe that rainbow_equality post is almost a decade old. The real dark obscure fact is we're old as fuck, and will soon be dead and forgotten.  :(
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All of us will someday join the old man with ugly scars as gost.

I mean shit, I’m already pussy broke.
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Post by: skunty on February 08, 2022, 03:18:24 PM
Justin pierce
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: mattchew on February 08, 2022, 03:23:47 PM
skateboard hardware is not specifically designed for skateboards

Are you trying to tell me Bronze isn’t core?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Underpressureflips on February 08, 2022, 03:24:12 PM
There’s a bar in LA owned by skaters called “black”. Pretty dark fact imho.
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Post by: HORSES on February 08, 2022, 03:24:22 PM
The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.


Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: DannyDee on February 08, 2022, 03:56:50 PM
The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.
Wasn't Ave on that trip and sober by then. I believe there is a photo of him on that trip with Van in Berlin. Either way a terrible result, and who knows who did what, what exactly happened, and what would have happened given the seriousness of opioid addiction.
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Post by: DESTROYER OF SENSES on February 08, 2022, 04:15:08 PM
CHAD FERNANDEZ BEATS WOMEN
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: dannyprovolone on February 08, 2022, 04:17:07 PM
There’s a bar in LA owned by skaters called “black”. Pretty dark fact imho.

hm...is it same guys who started that brand for minorities called "chocolate"?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: augustmoon on February 08, 2022, 04:29:24 PM
Pretty sure Jay Adams was involved in a gay bashing murder and the industry still treats him like some kind of Messiah

I always wondered how many bodies must be buried on the grounds of Skateopia.  More than a few people must have OD’d there over the years.  Wasn’t the owner notorious for having underage girlfriends?  That place is overdue for a true crime doc.  Don’t hear about it much these days
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Post by: c-dock on February 08, 2022, 04:30:58 PM
steve borra is scientology
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: nicotinewheel on February 08, 2022, 04:39:52 PM
skate industry is an op designed to distract/depoliticize youth while slowly degrading their physical ability to resist
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: dannyprovolone on February 08, 2022, 04:42:15 PM
Pretty sure Jay Adams was involved in a gay bashing murder and the industry still treats him like some kind of Messiah

*cough* danny way *cough*
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: OldSkater on February 08, 2022, 05:53:26 PM
On August 5, 1987, while driving a rented BMW 316 in Enniskillen, Northern Ireland, Matthew Broderick crossed into the wrong lane and collided head-on with a Volvo. The driver, Anna Gallagher, 28, and her mother, Margaret Doherty, 63, were both killed instantly.
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Post by: ziggy on February 08, 2022, 06:07:51 PM
just curious anyone know anything?

all i know is that i don’t know nothing
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: gabba ghoul on February 08, 2022, 06:40:19 PM
On August 5, 1987, while driving a rented BMW 316 in Enniskillen, Northern Ireland, Matthew Broderick crossed into the wrong lane and collided head-on with a Volvo. The driver, Anna Gallagher, 28, and her mother, Margaret Doherty, 63, were both killed instantly.
woman of the year caitlyn jenner did the same thing.
but charlie sheen is the bad 2 and a halrf men and kanye is the bad kardashian husband.
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Post by: Gene_Harrogate on February 08, 2022, 06:47:31 PM
That guy didn’t actually steal Koston’s wallet.
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Post by: cky enthusiast on February 08, 2022, 07:30:33 PM
lenny kirk is worth a google OP
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Post by: DannyDee on February 08, 2022, 07:42:44 PM
lenny kirk is worth a google OP
Just watch this. Then do the google deep dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXiwxD9Pa4&ab_channel=VICE
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Cthunderw on February 08, 2022, 08:42:35 PM
Ryan Smith on The Bunt talking about how JT and Zero just churned through rail-chompers makes me wonder how many other burnt out and bitter former skaters are out there from other companies, especially from that era.
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on February 08, 2022, 08:43:11 PM
Ryan Smith on The Bunt talking about how JT and Zero just churned through rail-chompers makes me wonder how many other burnt out and bitter former skaters are out there from other companies, especially from that era.

See: Foundation
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Post by: Cthunderw on February 08, 2022, 08:50:21 PM
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Ryan Smith on The Bunt talking about how JT and Zero just churned through rail-chompers makes me wonder how many other burnt out and bitter former skaters are out there from other companies, especially from that era.
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See: Foundation
I had literally typed "for example the cast of That's Life. Gareth Stehr can't be doing well." but decided to delete it and leave my post open for other interpretation.
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Post by: gsosa on February 08, 2022, 09:14:43 PM
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Read this: https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/10/31/the-good-bad-and-the-ugly-shiloh-greathouse/

Truly haunting:

 "In 1991 I did a demo in Virginia with Rodney Mullen, Kareem Campbell, Chris Pastras and Jason Lee. This trip marked a moment in my life I’ll never forget – not because who was on it but because of what I encountered in the outskirts of Virginia."

I hit up Shiloh like a man on IG, but he couldn't remember where in VA this transpired.
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damn thats a pretty interesting read thanks hahah
Dude that was FUCKED
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thanksgiving on February 08, 2022, 09:34:45 PM
http://fflzine.blogspot.com/2012/05/jordan-richter-interview-pt-2.html
Great read, thx for the share.
I think his challenging of what Thrasher and etc. promtoes as/into skateboarding is a tough and important question to ask.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thanksgiving on February 08, 2022, 09:36:35 PM
Pretty sure Jay Adams was involved in a gay bashing murder and the industry still treats him like some kind of Messiah

Anything to back this?
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Post by: SatanicPanic on February 08, 2022, 09:55:11 PM
The Willy grind wasn’t invented by Willy Santos, it was invented by some other Willy
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Post by: manysnakes on February 08, 2022, 10:03:26 PM
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Pretty sure Jay Adams was involved in a gay bashing murder and the industry still treats him like some kind of Messiah

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Quote from: Vice
The initial New York Times obituary on his death failed to mention that Adams, who, as their headline says, "changed skateboarding into something radical," participated in what looks an awful lot like a hate crime a few decades ago. A more in-depth follow-up story published Sunday with the title "In Empty Pools, Sport's Pioneer Found a Way to Make a Splash" devotes one sentence to it: "In 1982 he was convicted of felony assault for involvement in the stomping death of a gay man at a concert in Hollywood."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jmbbk3/maybe-we-shouldnt-be-so-sentimental-about-a-gay-bashing-skateboarder-658
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on February 08, 2022, 10:08:46 PM
Oh I heard a good one - read this Blind item and tell me if it sounds like a famous skateboarder turned actor

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/01/todays-blind-items-standoff.html
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Chavo on February 08, 2022, 10:23:26 PM
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Pretty sure Jay Adams was involved in a gay bashing murder and the industry still treats him like some kind of Messiah

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The initial New York Times obituary on his death failed to mention that Adams, who, as their headline says, "changed skateboarding into something radical," participated in what looks an awful lot like a hate crime a few decades ago. A more in-depth follow-up story published Sunday with the title "In Empty Pools, Sport's Pioneer Found a Way to Make a Splash" devotes one sentence to it: "In 1982 he was convicted of felony assault for involvement in the stomping death of a gay man at a concert in Hollywood."
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/jmbbk3/maybe-we-shouldnt-be-so-sentimental-about-a-gay-bashing-skateboarder-658

Most of the article contradicts the main source he used (Juice interview) and the book excerpt at the end.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: braksabbath on February 08, 2022, 10:40:57 PM
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http://fflzine.blogspot.com/2012/05/jordan-richter-interview-pt-2.html
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Great read, thx for the share.
I think his challenging of what Thrasher and etc. promtoes as/into skateboarding is a tough and important question to ask.
Skate hard, drink hard, become a legend mural
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: scary on February 08, 2022, 10:56:14 PM
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Nazis. It's all Nazis.
https://youtu.be/Iwxsay44LUY
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tf this was crazy to see didnt think the two would ever collide

Pretty crazy if this predates the skateboard and downtown can’t claim they invented it anymore
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mean salto on February 08, 2022, 11:11:31 PM
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Nazis. It's all Nazis.
https://youtu.be/Iwxsay44LUY
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tf this was crazy to see didnt think the two would ever collide
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Pretty crazy if this predates the skateboard and downtown can’t claim they invented it anymore
Its at the latest 1945 (but probably earlier) but it's probably down to opinion if it counts as a skateboard or not. I'm not going to look it up but I think the Nazis may have invented roller skates too. I doubt Germans want to use these examples as them inventing the skateboard so they let the Cali surf bros have it.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: pdknox on February 08, 2022, 11:12:23 PM
Dude did you know that the baker crew used to be the rowdiest bunch in the game?  They had been giving skateboarding a bad name since 2000. Then they all mostly popped out a few kids (the spanky,boss) and now have mellowed out just in time to release baker 4
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: biggietoms on February 08, 2022, 11:17:53 PM
Ellington didnt get fucked up that night
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lo-fi Explosion on February 09, 2022, 01:19:32 AM
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Nazis. It's all Nazis.
https://youtu.be/Iwxsay44LUY
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tf this was crazy to see didnt think the two would ever collide
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Pretty crazy if this predates the skateboard and downtown can’t claim they invented it anymore
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Its at the latest 1945 (but probably earlier) but it's probably down to opinion if it counts as a skateboard or not. I'm not going to look it up but I think the Nazis may have invented roller skates too. I doubt Germans want to use these examples as them inventing the skateboard so they let the Cali surf bros have it.

So 1010 is just a traditionalist  :0)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Chippybeat on February 09, 2022, 02:55:06 AM
The correct answer here is: I-level Skateboards.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thebestskateboarderever on February 09, 2022, 03:41:37 AM
nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on February 09, 2022, 04:02:18 AM
A lot of decks released by most major brands from the usual woodshops are actually made of Himalayan Cedar, an important timber tree in Pakistan, Kashmir, and north-western India. But these particular batches are also laminated with pure, 100% organic, free range, Kosher walrus cum. And goddamn, do these decks slap.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Freelancevagrant on February 09, 2022, 04:18:21 AM
It wasn’t Owen Wilson.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on February 09, 2022, 04:22:35 AM
the spanky
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Pipe Dreamer on February 09, 2022, 04:52:51 AM
Sean Goff (former Brand X & Death Box Pro) was stabbed by Lucien Hendricks (former Dogtown Pro) in the 1980s when they were rivals in the UK Vert scene.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: radcunt on February 09, 2022, 04:55:20 AM
Read this: https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/10/31/the-good-bad-and-the-ugly-shiloh-greathouse/

Truly haunting:

 "In 1991 I did a demo in Virginia with Rodney Mullen, Kareem Campbell, Chris Pastras and Jason Lee. This trip marked a moment in my life I’ll never forget – not because who was on it but because of what I encountered in the outskirts of Virginia."

I hit up Shiloh like a man on IG, but he couldn't remember where in VA this transpired.

Love it!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: WavyDavy on February 09, 2022, 05:08:35 AM
Sean Goff (former Brand X & Death Box Pro) was stabbed by Lucien Hendricks (former Dogtown Pro) in the 1980s when they were rivals in the UK Vert scene.

Oh shit

https://sidewalkmag.com/longform/lucian-hendricks-made-of-stone-2

"Then I had a fight with Sean Goff. I was on angel dust, in the moment. We were in a place in the middle of nowhere, on a beach. Me and all the London boys were doing crazy things, I had an altercation with Sean, then I got thrown off Vision. Everything I worked for disappeared. I mean it wasn’t like he was stabbed, it was more scratched. It didn’t matter, but at the same time it did, because it was quite a wrong thing to do. You know, you shouldn’t really do that kind of thing and I paid the price, got thrown off all my companies, lost all my sponsorships. It was really lame on my behalf."
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mouth on February 09, 2022, 05:29:40 AM
The darkest part is that i remember most of this stuff happening the first time round...
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jorge on February 09, 2022, 06:06:10 AM
nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cucktard on February 09, 2022, 06:13:29 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill

But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: gabba ghoul on February 09, 2022, 06:19:45 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
i knew it was stratosphere right away. is this a skate forum or a global history forum?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: UselessAsshole on February 09, 2022, 06:23:33 AM
The gator documentary is up in YouTube if anyone's curious or hasn't seen it yet. He is garbage and should stay in jail.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vw8IzWWwTMs


My dumb ass can't figure out how to embed on here anymore
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thebestskateboarderever on February 09, 2022, 06:33:55 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
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i knew it was stratosphere right away. is this a skate forum or a global history forum?

didnt know what stratosphere was, checked it out and yes the s in their logo is an OG cut out SS nazi logo.
even worse that they think its cool to do SS tags to make it clear it refers to nazi germany.
nothing more important than to know and teach history even when we as a collective are on a skate website.
if somebody knows them or the owner please tell them to stop. its not cool or edgy.
always felt weird when those anti hero dudes would roll up with eagle on their boards, fucking independent trucks with the iron cross on it and at worse are sponsored by stratosphere skateboards (looking at you grant).
it all CLEARLY refers to every single logo nazi germany has used.
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Post by: gabba ghoul on February 09, 2022, 06:42:52 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
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i knew it was stratosphere right away. is this a skate forum or a global history forum?
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didnt know what stratosphere was, checked it out and yes the s in their logo is an OG cut out SS nazi logo.
even worse that they think its cool to do SS tags to make it clear it refers to nazi germany.
nothing more important than to know and teach history even when we as a collective are on a skate website.
if somebody knows them or the owner please tell them to stop. its not cool or edgy.
sure. read about the holodomor and the sickle and hammer doesn't seem so cool anymore.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Coastal Fever on February 09, 2022, 06:47:20 AM
It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thebestskateboarderever on February 09, 2022, 06:59:20 AM
explains a lot..
thats messed up. fitting for this thread.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZHQbDdv/112-1126554-nazi-symbol-metal-png-clip-library-stock-luftwaffe.png) (https://ibb.co/ZHQbDdv)(https://i.ibb.co/NYc4LZf/c791-950x1000-0.png) (https://ibb.co/NYc4LZf)
(https://i.ibb.co/9s8q9qn/SS-Logo.png) (https://ibb.co/9s8q9qn)

look guys i found these cool ass logos in this clip art folder. think we should use em? will tell everybody how exlusivly good our products are to make them the new standard in skateboarding and publish those logos everywhere.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jorge on February 09, 2022, 07:00:25 AM
It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
Desperate to cancel.  Grant is actually super laid back and friendly most certainly not a racist or nazi.  His dad-while not laid back or friendly at all if you don't know him, is also not a racist and has sponsored/been friends with tons of ATL locals for years. 
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: nicotinewheel on February 09, 2022, 07:04:16 AM
US is the home of the 4th reich, only ops, dummies, and dupes still rock with the overt symbols.
I'd put these skate nazis in the dummy/dupe category (context not apologetics).

Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on February 09, 2022, 07:06:34 AM
The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.

What happened?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on February 09, 2022, 07:33:24 AM
It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)

I get your reach - we're all products of our parents.

But I like to imagine baby Grant didn't say "Daddy, daddy! Put the SS on the garage!" Dude is just skating. Also can't recall any controversy or really anything that can pin Grant as some ig douche. Nice try tho, correct me if i'm wrong nerds
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Post by: manysnakes on February 09, 2022, 07:56:30 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill

It's pointless. People on Slap are obsessed with divining the hidden meaning of every symbol in the skate industry, which is apparently controlled by secret Nazis, rather than a bunch of drunk morons who, in a pre-woke period, believed that some right wing imagery most closely associated by with outlaw biker gangs, looked cool.

Because, you see, if a gentile sees a certain image, they have a Manchurian Candidate-like reaction and automatically restart the holocaust, and similarly Jews like me encounter the letters "SS" and have epigenetic memory of my grandmother's door in the shtetl getting kicked in by the District of Galicia. This action causes me to curl into a ball for the next six months.
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Post by: manysnakes on February 09, 2022, 08:12:46 AM
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The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.
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What happened?

Van Wastell was using (heroin, I think). His teammates took it away from him, I assume hoping to help. Later that night, he either fell from or jumped out of a window and died.
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Post by: slapfight simba on February 09, 2022, 08:16:37 AM
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The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.
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What happened?
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Van Wastell was using (heroin, I think). His teammates took it away from him, I assume hoping to help. Later that night, he either fell from or jumped out of a window and died.
never come between a man and his heroin
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on February 09, 2022, 08:21:15 AM
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The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.
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What happened?
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Van Wastell was using (heroin, I think). His teammates took it away from him, I assume hoping to help. Later that night, he either fell from or jumped out of a window and died.
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never come between a man and his heroin

Well it's definitely not a good idea to get someone off of heroin by stealing their stash while they're on a tour in Europe, forcing them to go cold turkey in a strange hotel room thousands of miles from their family or anyone qualified to handle someone going through heroin withdrawl.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thebestskateboarderever on February 09, 2022, 08:51:46 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
[close]
Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
[close]

It's pointless. People on Slap are obsessed with divining the hidden meaning of every symbol in the skate industry, which is apparently controlled by secret Nazis, rather than a bunch of drunk morons who, in a pre-woke period, believed that some right wing imagery most closely associated by with outlaw biker gangs, looked cool.

Because, you see, if a gentile sees a certain image, they have a Manchurian Candidate-like reaction and automatically restart the holocaust, and similarly Jews like me encounter the letters "SS" and have epigenetic memory of my grandmother's door in the shtetl getting kicked in by the District of Galicia. This action causes me to curl into a ball for the next six months.

its very very important to teach people about the meaning behind the symbols. i do not believe those guys were just fans of biker gangs. and if so do your research since anything those guys talk about is being the real deal. its pretty emberassing and fake to not know your knowledge behind those logos and ripping them of to make your skateboards look cool.. you really think those guys were that fake?
makes the revive john hill board almost more hell ride
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on February 09, 2022, 08:55:31 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
[close]
Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
[close]

It's pointless. People on Slap are obsessed with divining the hidden meaning of every symbol in the skate industry, which is apparently controlled by secret Nazis, rather than a bunch of drunk morons who, in a pre-woke period, believed that some right wing imagery most closely associated by with outlaw biker gangs, looked cool.

Because, you see, if a gentile sees a certain image, they have a Manchurian Candidate-like reaction and automatically restart the holocaust, and similarly Jews like me encounter the letters "SS" and have epigenetic memory of my grandmother's door in the shtetl getting kicked in by the District of Galicia. This action causes me to curl into a ball for the next six months.
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its very very important to teach people about the meaning behind the symbols. i do not believe those guys were just fans of biker gangs. and if so do your research since anything those guys talk about is being the real deal. its pretty emberassing and fake to not know your knowledge behind those logos and ripping them of to make your skateboards look cool.. you really think those guys were that fake?

No, I sincerely believe that they were smuggling covert Nazi imagery into all parts of skateboarding in order to resurrect the Fourth Reich.

Edit - I guess that would be constitute the Fourth Reich, not resurrect.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: thebestskateboarderever on February 09, 2022, 09:04:43 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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It's pointless. People on Slap are obsessed with divining the hidden meaning of every symbol in the skate industry, which is apparently controlled by secret Nazis, rather than a bunch of drunk morons who, in a pre-woke period, believed that some right wing imagery most closely associated by with outlaw biker gangs, looked cool.

Because, you see, if a gentile sees a certain image, they have a Manchurian Candidate-like reaction and automatically restart the holocaust, and similarly Jews like me encounter the letters "SS" and have epigenetic memory of my grandmother's door in the shtetl getting kicked in by the District of Galicia. This action causes me to curl into a ball for the next six months.
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its very very important to teach people about the meaning behind the symbols. i do not believe those guys were just fans of biker gangs. and if so do your research since anything those guys talk about is being the real deal. its pretty emberassing and fake to not know your knowledge behind those logos and ripping them of to make your skateboards look cool.. you really think those guys were that fake?
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No, I sincerely believe that they were smuggling covert Nazi imagery into all parts of skateboarding in order to resurrect the fourth reich.

this or they were just close to biker nazi gangs because biker nazi gangs are just human beings like us skateboarders. s/o jason jesse
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Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jorge on February 09, 2022, 09:05:19 AM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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It's pointless. People on Slap are obsessed with divining the hidden meaning of every symbol in the skate industry, which is apparently controlled by secret Nazis, rather than a bunch of drunk morons who, in a pre-woke period, believed that some right wing imagery most closely associated by with outlaw biker gangs, looked cool.

Because, you see, if a gentile sees a certain image, they have a Manchurian Candidate-like reaction and automatically restart the holocaust, and similarly Jews like me encounter the letters "SS" and have epigenetic memory of my grandmother's door in the shtetl getting kicked in by the District of Galicia. This action causes me to curl into a ball for the next six months.
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its very very important to teach people about the meaning behind the symbols. i do not believe those guys were just fans of biker gangs. and if so do your research since anything those guys talk about is being the real deal. its pretty emberassing and fake to not know your knowledge behind those logos and ripping them of to make your skateboards look cool.. you really think those guys were that fake?
GT is friends with Ishod and rides for Julien Strangers company.  If he is a racist Nazi he isn't doing a very good job.

Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Colin Robinson on February 09, 2022, 09:28:47 AM
The gator documentary is up in YouTube if anyone's curious or hasn't seen it yet. He is garbage and should stay in jail.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vw8IzWWwTMs


My dumb ass can't figure out how to embed on here anymore

We actually watched this in my deviant behaviors psychology course back in college and I’m pretty sure I was the only one who knew of the events prior and had the context of the late 80’s/early 90’s skating industry.

Side note: some other dude in the class wanted to find out more about 1010 after watching it, this was in 2011 or 2012 before his nazi shit was exposed.

But yeah, great doc, you owe it to yourself to watch it sometime if you haven’t.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on February 09, 2022, 09:32:25 AM
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The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.
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What happened?
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Van Wastell was using (heroin, I think). His teammates took it away from him, I assume hoping to help. Later that night, he either fell from or jumped out of a window and died.

Dam that's sad
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: CossRooper on February 09, 2022, 11:09:33 AM
Dan Wolfe didn't actually look at the clouds, fool

Fully Flared explosions were CGI done by Industrial Light and Magic/Lucasfilm, it's in the liner notes of the special edition DVD
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on February 09, 2022, 11:21:19 AM
Dan Wolfe didn't actually look at the clouds, fool

Fully Flared explosions were CGI done by Industrial Light and Magic/Lucasfilm, it's in the liner notes of the special edition DVD

spike jonze has used a decent bit of pyrotechnics, i think this explosion is real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxHxAwSuQT8&ab_channel=TylerWherley
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: tom on February 09, 2022, 11:48:16 AM
Jason Dill once manipulated a teenage boy to let him inside his parent's house and then stayed there for weeks. To make matters worse, the kid's dad was having a documentary filmed about his rapidly declining mental health and Dill had no qualms with being caught on camera taking advantage of this sick old man. Really dark stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on February 09, 2022, 12:08:05 PM
Dan Wolfe didn't actually look at the clouds, fool

Fully Flared explosions were CGI done by Industrial Light and Magic/Lucasfilm, it's in the liner notes of the special edition DVD

ILM does practical effects, as well. They probably designed the pyrotechnics.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: The real veganshawn on February 09, 2022, 12:08:42 PM
Friend of mine worked for high speed in the 90s and said Thrasher were regularly run bail photos and also would edit photos to make stuff like bigger then it was
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: DannyDee on February 09, 2022, 12:12:23 PM
Friend of mine worked for high speed in the 90s and said Thrasher were regularly run bail photos and also would edit photos to make stuff like bigger then it was
Isn't it well established that a ton of photos or even sequences run feature bail photos. I remember DGKalis going in depth on this at one point. Although you should never run a photo where the trick wasn't made at that session, or you end up in a Dompierre situation.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Paul Cicero on February 09, 2022, 12:18:31 PM
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Friend of mine worked for high speed in the 90s and said Thrasher were regularly run bail photos and also would edit photos to make stuff like bigger then it was
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Isn't it well established that a ton of photos or even sequences run feature bail photos. I remember DGKalis going in depth on this at one point. Although you should never run a photo where the trick wasn't made at that session, or you end up in a Dompierre situation.

Was it on here @DannyDee ?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 09, 2022, 12:40:21 PM
Jason Dill once manipulated a teenage boy to let him inside his parent's house and then stayed there for weeks. To make matters worse, the kid's dad was having was documentary filmed about his rapidly declining mental health and Dill had no qualms with being caught on camera taking advantage of this sick old man. Really dark stuff.

I see what you did there. Nice.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: WPG on February 09, 2022, 01:55:02 PM


Fully Flared explosions were CGI done by Industrial Light and Magic/Lucasfilm, it's in the liner notes of the special edition DVD
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https://youtu.be/2Zwp4aho740
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Rocko on February 09, 2022, 02:26:01 PM
Reynolds has only taken one ice bath :-(
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Highonangeldust on February 09, 2022, 03:06:12 PM
Alexis Sablone eats grapes at the grocery store and doesn’t pay for them
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on February 09, 2022, 03:37:59 PM
Alexis Sablone eats grapes at the grocery store and doesn’t pay for them

Blueberries, actually. (https://i.ibb.co/649qsSH/CFE6-DF72-265-E-42-A3-B7-F8-4-BA534-D76213.jpg) (https://ibb.co/649qsSH)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: DannyDee on February 09, 2022, 03:54:50 PM
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Friend of mine worked for high speed in the 90s and said Thrasher were regularly run bail photos and also would edit photos to make stuff like bigger then it was
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Isn't it well established that a ton of photos or even sequences run feature bail photos. I remember DGKalis going in depth on this at one point. Although you should never run a photo where the trick wasn't made at that session, or you end up in a Dompierre situation.
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Was it on here @DannyDee ?
Yeah, forgot which thread though. It was at least half a decade ago.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: work_lurker on February 09, 2022, 05:22:15 PM
Nobody in Dying to Live actually died
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 09, 2022, 05:39:05 PM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
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i knew it was stratosphere right away. is this a skate forum or a global history forum?

So this is the ‘nazi’ S in stratosphere, correct?

(https://i.postimg.cc/zG3X3PxW/4-A30-D653-9727-4100-9531-04517-E49-E318.png) (https://postimg.cc/gxFPT4Fk)

If that’s the case, you’re mistaken. That’s the KISS s.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fy4BSF7b/0391-E24-D-9168-4106-9381-A9-E6-FE75232-D.png) (https://postimg.cc/Hc2Qf6hG)

and get after Jamie for Mystery.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nrYYjLcd/084-C4218-6270-4130-9231-D046-E26-B48-FE.png) (https://postimg.cc/RJhn24tf)

Sorry. But the SS bolts are different. Oh and punch a nazi every chance you get.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mean salto on February 09, 2022, 06:56:57 PM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
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i knew it was stratosphere right away. is this a skate forum or a global history forum?
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So this is the ‘nazi’ S in stratosphere, correct?

(https://i.postimg.cc/zG3X3PxW/4-A30-D653-9727-4100-9531-04517-E49-E318.png) (https://postimg.cc/gxFPT4Fk)

If that’s the case, you’re mistaken. That’s the KISS s.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fy4BSF7b/0391-E24-D-9168-4106-9381-A9-E6-FE75232-D.png) (https://postimg.cc/Hc2Qf6hG)

and get after Jamie for Mystery.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nrYYjLcd/084-C4218-6270-4130-9231-D046-E26-B48-FE.png) (https://postimg.cc/RJhn24tf)

Sorry. But the SS bolts are different. Oh and punch a nazi every chance you get.
Kiss has to use a different logo in Germany and mystery had trouble in Germany because of the logo. When it comes to what is the bolts s the Germans probably know best.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 09, 2022, 06:57:26 PM
what does grant taylor know about
operation paper clip. where are his relatives from. germany by way of argentina prolly. weird coincidence i guess
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Plan9Customs on February 09, 2022, 07:23:36 PM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
(https://i.ibb.co/jJmX1MB/Bildschirmfoto-2022-02-09-um-12-37-21.png) (https://ibb.co/jJmX1MB)(https://i.ibb.co/chwwtzN/SS-Panzerdiv-Hitler-Jugend-Vereidigung-Hitler-Youth-unit-taking-oath-1944-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chwwtzN)


always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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But the Nazi ss was first, and it’s an obvious derivative of that well-known usage. despite what you interpret it as.

Most people will automatically associate it with Nazi Germany, as almost no-one knows Stratosphere.

If Stratosphere is in fact the real meaning, why didn’t they pick a less controversial way of writing the S’s?
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i knew it was stratosphere right away. is this a skate forum or a global history forum?
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So this is the ‘nazi’ S in stratosphere, correct?

(https://i.postimg.cc/zG3X3PxW/4-A30-D653-9727-4100-9531-04517-E49-E318.png) (https://postimg.cc/gxFPT4Fk)

If that’s the case, you’re mistaken. That’s the KISS s.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fy4BSF7b/0391-E24-D-9168-4106-9381-A9-E6-FE75232-D.png) (https://postimg.cc/Hc2Qf6hG)

and get after Jamie for Mystery.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nrYYjLcd/084-C4218-6270-4130-9231-D046-E26-B48-FE.png) (https://postimg.cc/RJhn24tf)

Sorry. But the SS bolts are different. Oh and punch a nazi every chance you get.
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Kiss has to use a different logo in Germany and mystery had trouble in Germany because of the logo. When it comes to what is the bolts s the Germans probably know best.
Good point. I had no idea about they had to change their fonts for German merch/tours. Was just going on the letters(which are clearly different since the tops are cropped. Not saying they aren’t close or defending their use just going on looks only). As fs180 said punch a nazi even if they skate. Did anyone mention the Godoys yet?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: whoami on February 09, 2022, 07:27:20 PM
Most of my friends from Atlanta can attest Thomas is not really an all inclusive type of guy if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: work_lurker on February 11, 2022, 01:00:50 PM
Caswell Berry actually had a shaved head before
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Brguy on February 11, 2022, 01:58:47 PM
It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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Post by: jakeumms on February 11, 2022, 02:17:20 PM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
OK they were born in the southern part of the United States so if they need to fly a flag there is dumb one with the same ass colors they can use. The Confederate or "Rebel' flag is the flag they flew when they waged a war to continue to enslave people. And they fucking lost. They lost then and they would lose now. It's just a little piece of poop at the end to let you know how they really feel because coded messages were all they had left. Anyone flying it for any other reason is a self deluded asshole. It really only means one thing.
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Post by: Lou Strux on February 11, 2022, 02:27:39 PM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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OK they were born in the southern part of the United States so if they need to fly a flag there is dumb one with the same ass colors they can use. The Confederate or "Rebel' flag is the flag they flew when they waged a war to continue to enslave people. And they fucking lost. They lost then and they would lose now. It's just a little piece of poop at the end to let you know how they really feel because coded messages were all they had left. Anyone flying it for any other reason is a self deluded asshole. It really only means one thing.
Fax!
Also, this got me thinking of what a modern iteration of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard would have on its roof?
Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: HORSES on February 11, 2022, 02:34:17 PM
Most of my friends from Atlanta can attest Thomas is not really an all inclusive type of guy if you know what I mean.


Word is from some friends in Atlanta that  Thomas Taylor isn't Grant's biological dad.
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Post by: work_lurker on February 11, 2022, 02:49:24 PM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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OK they were born in the southern part of the United States so if they need to fly a flag there is dumb one with the same ass colors they can use. The Confederate or "Rebel' flag is the flag they flew when they waged a war to continue to enslave people. And they fucking lost. They lost then and they would lose now. It's just a little piece of poop at the end to let you know how they really feel because coded messages were all they had left. Anyone flying it for any other reason is a self deluded asshole. It really only means one thing.
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Fax!
Also, this got me thinking of what a modern iteration of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard would have on its roof?
Your thoughts?

Millions of peaches, peaches for free.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mean salto on February 11, 2022, 07:06:23 PM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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OK they were born in the southern part of the United States so if they need to fly a flag there is dumb one with the same ass colors they can use. The Confederate or "Rebel' flag is the flag they flew when they waged a war to continue to enslave people. And they fucking lost. They lost then and they would lose now. It's just a little piece of poop at the end to let you know how they really feel because coded messages were all they had left. Anyone flying it for any other reason is a self deluded asshole. It really only means one thing.
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Fax!
Also, this got me thinking of what a modern iteration of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazard would have on its roof?
Your thoughts?
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Millions of peaches, peaches for free.
It would be a gritty reboot of dukes of Hazzard. They main guys would be black the flag would be rainbow and they'd be trying to get away from a racist homophobic boss hog.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 11, 2022, 08:32:44 PM
Muska still hasn’t found true love
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Post by: Lou Strux on February 11, 2022, 10:54:29 PM
Danny Way spawned Chris Jolson’s baby w/ Chris’s wife Julia during their 2 week separation.
This is why the child’s name is Daniel Junior & not Christopher #2.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Pho King Hung Lo Mein on February 12, 2022, 12:17:07 AM
gator killed his girlfriend

Dark?  Absolutely!

Obscure?  Eh! (*Larry David inflection).

Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Pho King Hung Lo Mein on February 12, 2022, 12:27:35 AM
Other than that, I suppose the Fabry banging Sheffey's wife and Sheffey on finding out, beating Fabry to a bloody pulp and running him out of professional skateboarding is pretty dark for me.  Just not sure how obscure it actually is.  Not to mention I've got pretty delicate sensibilities.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: quaintly on February 12, 2022, 02:08:26 AM
does anyone know if a small child really died at a vert demo in the 80,s after a board flew out and hit them in the head?
is this rumour , myth, urban legend , or a factual skateboarding dark hidden secret?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: behavioralguide on February 12, 2022, 03:41:13 AM
Other than that, I suppose the Fabry banging Sheffey's wife and Sheffey on finding out, beating Fabry to a bloody pulp and running him out of professional skateboarding is pretty dark for me.  Just not sure how obscure it actually is.  Not to mention I've got pretty delicate sensibilities.

out of all of the wife's he goes for sheffey's
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Brguy on February 12, 2022, 03:58:52 AM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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Anyone flying it for any other reason is a self deluded asshole. It really only means one thing.
Yikes.
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Post by: Mean salto on February 12, 2022, 04:02:14 AM
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Other than that, I suppose the Fabry banging Sheffey's wife and Sheffey on finding out, beating Fabry to a bloody pulp and running him out of professional skateboarding is pretty dark for me.  Just not sure how obscure it actually is.  Not to mention I've got pretty delicate sensibilities.
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out of all of the wife's he goes for sheffey's
How big is sheffey actually? There's all these stories of him being a unit but I don't really see it.
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Post by: Don on February 12, 2022, 05:08:48 AM
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Other than that, I suppose the Fabry banging Sheffey's wife and Sheffey on finding out, beating Fabry to a bloody pulp and running him out of professional skateboarding is pretty dark for me.  Just not sure how obscure it actually is.  Not to mention I've got pretty delicate sensibilities.
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out of all of the wife's he goes for sheffey's
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How big is sheffey actually? There's all these stories of him being a unit but I don't really see it.

You should dm him like a man saying exactly that
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Post by: pro club blanks on February 12, 2022, 06:41:31 AM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
The confederate flag originated as a battle flag for a unit led by a man who would go on to become the first grand wizard of the kkk.

Theres no defending that shit


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Post by: Mean salto on February 12, 2022, 07:04:53 AM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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The confederate flag originated as a battle flag for a unit led by a man who would go on to become the first grand wizard of the kkk.

Theres no defending that shit
https://youtu.be/mYwGKcUF63A footage of how the confederate flag originated
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Post by: work_lurker on February 12, 2022, 07:40:32 AM
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Other than that, I suppose the Fabry banging Sheffey's wife and Sheffey on finding out, beating Fabry to a bloody pulp and running him out of professional skateboarding is pretty dark for me.  Just not sure how obscure it actually is.  Not to mention I've got pretty delicate sensibilities.
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out of all of the wife's he goes for sheffey's
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How big is sheffey actually? There's all these stories of him being a unit but I don't really see it.

I’ve seen him at some North County skateparks and he is definitely a dude you do not want to collide into. He will win every single time. Really nice guy, great switch game, but for sure could still beat some ass if warranted. 
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on February 12, 2022, 08:01:06 AM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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OK they were born in the southern part of the United States so if they need to fly a flag there is dumb one with the same ass colors they can use. The Confederate or "Rebel' flag is the flag they flew when they waged a war to continue to enslave people. And they fucking lost. They lost then and they would lose now. It's just a little piece of poop at the end to let you know how they really feel because coded messages were all they had left. Anyone flying it for any other reason is a self deluded asshole. It really only means one thing.

This conversation always devolves into, "it's not hate, it's heritage", followed by the states rights argument. "States rights to do what"... "uhhhhhhh... you know stuff"

William Tecumseh Sherman was a great man. Anyone arguing for the display of the Confederate flag should do themselves the due diligence and read the articles of secession by each Confederate state as well as the Declarations of Causes by Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina. William Tecumseh Sherman was a hot sexy man.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Freelancevagrant on February 12, 2022, 08:12:36 AM
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.

Are you fucking serious? This is the textbook level of apathy and indifference that leads to historical atrocities.

First of all, the confederate battle flag was a symbol for an institution that whole heartedly believed in white supremacy, going as far as starting a war over it… there’s been quite a few other symbols associated with white supremacist institutions that are never questioned.

No one should be proud of where they are from, it’s ignorant as all fuck and a tactic used to sow division.

Here’s a few other fun tidbits for you, after the fall of the third reich, all symbols related to the national socialist workers party (nazi party) were fucking banned. So, as a way of being able to self identify was a neonazi, European white supremacists started using the confederate battle flag. Meaning that they recognize that this was a symbol of hate and inline with the same views that they held.

Also, after losing the war, the confederates fled to South America. Ironically, they were able to establish white ethnic enclaves in Brazil and Argentina. And it’s gotta be some wild coincidence that is exactly where the nazis fled too?
 
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Post by: Plan9Customs on February 12, 2022, 09:46:26 AM
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gator killed his girlfriend
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Dark?  Absolutely!

Obscure?  Eh! (*Larry David inflection).

Actually it was his ex’s friend he raped/murdered. Here’s something that you may not know, he sold the car he transported her corpse in to Koston very soon after that.
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Post by: rusty knees on February 12, 2022, 12:07:32 PM
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just curious anyone know anything?
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all i know is that i don’t know nothing

can totally picture hensley in hstreet vid
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Post by: switchfakie on February 12, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
not really totally obscure since the jason jesse scandal thread, but there were a lot of dudes who just accepted he was an open racist and didn't say shit about it
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Post by: bradtheraddad on February 14, 2022, 11:53:02 AM
The Willy grind wasn’t invented by Willy Santos, it was invented by some other Willy

I believe Derek Williams is the name you're looking for there. Willy Santos made it a point to clear that up in his Chromeball interview lol (I don't blame him): https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2011/08/chrome-ball-interview-30-willy-santos.html

Here's Derek's video part, willy grind happens around the 5 second mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASJeSa2HM4k
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on February 14, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
Reynolds has only taken one ice bath :-(

He also only ever ate one fruit
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Post by: Brguy on February 14, 2022, 12:44:40 PM
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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Are you fucking serious? This is the textbook level of apathy and indifference that leads to historical atrocities.

No one should be proud of where they are from, it’s ignorant as all fuck and a tactic used to sow division.
Yeah, it's not like everyone flying the flag is a nazi, thinking they are would be even more apathetic than failing to recognize the history, specially since a lot of people don't know/don't care about it and it's been a country/south thing for a long time for a lot of people.

And of course you can be proud of your location, it is one of the main things that will dictate your whole culture, pride doesn't mean you're gonna turn into a fascist tomorrow, it just means you appreciate the influence your surroundings had in you, an extension of self-esteem you could say. To draw a parallel imagine your pride in being a skater and all the situations it has put your through, same thing you just didn't choose it.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: frontfootimpossible on February 14, 2022, 01:18:00 PM
one of the founders of thrasher committed suicide in front of the mission police station in sf.
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Post by: $$LESH on February 14, 2022, 01:21:41 PM
tony karr’s real name is christian mabacaio. took his moms last name and went by his middle name or some shit like that
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Post by: Craig Lutzka on February 14, 2022, 01:41:29 PM
Jesus Fernandez actually went to Lyon to break that fucking fisheye.
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Post by: backside_frontside on February 14, 2022, 01:43:36 PM
Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet
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Post by: Brguy on February 14, 2022, 02:47:31 PM
do you want to respond to the rest of his post or what
Who? Me? No, not really. The rest of it doesn't concern to the point I'm making and it's just history anyways, what would I say? "No the nazis didn't flee this or that way"? It would be a lie.
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Post by: cky enthusiast on February 14, 2022, 02:49:15 PM
who? me? nah, im just the most obtuse person on the planet
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Post by: DarthDingusMaximus on February 14, 2022, 04:09:38 PM
To make it as a popular/lucrative skater business you have to sell your name like a whore.
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Post by: Not_Bruce on February 14, 2022, 04:43:04 PM
Elissa Steamer defended Jason Jesse despite all his white supremacy / nazi stuff. She is still his homie to this day , and has been one of the more respected people in the industry trying to rehab his image. At the DLX shop in SF Elissa told me that "slap" did not know Jason like she did. I thought she was tripping on that jenkem imo, what an absurd take. Elissa is a legend no doubt , but personally she lame.



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Post by: realbasedgod112 on February 14, 2022, 07:26:16 PM
that thrasher video of the guy greenscreening his trick wasn't a joke. Every pro just uses CGI for their parts, and you only 'go pro' when you get good enough at editing.

trust me guys fred gall came to me in a dream and told me it was true.
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Post by: roba on February 15, 2022, 02:27:58 AM
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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Are you fucking serious? This is the textbook level of apathy and indifference that leads to historical atrocities.

No one should be proud of where they are from, it’s ignorant as all fuck and a tactic used to sow division.
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Yeah, it's not like everyone flying the flag is a nazi, thinking they are would be even more apathetic than failing to recognize the history, specially since a lot of people don't know/don't care about it and it's been a country/south thing for a long time for a lot of people.

And of course you can be proud of your location, it is one of the main things that will dictate your whole culture, pride doesn't mean you're gonna turn into a fascist tomorrow, it just means you appreciate the influence your surroundings had in you, an extension of self-esteem you could say. To draw a parallel imagine your pride in being a skater and all the situations it has put your through, same thing you just didn't choose it.

that’s the thing though and that’s why i always thought that patriotism and nationalism were sketchy - the fact that you were born where you were born is a total accident and people who are proud of their birthplace usually don’t have anything else to be proud of. it’s literally the same thing as being proud about being white or some shit like that and often leads to xenophobia
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Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on February 15, 2022, 02:50:44 AM
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do you want to respond to the rest of his post or what
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Who? Me? No, not really. The rest of it doesn't concern to the point I'm making and it's just history anyways

How convinient
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Post by: ohcomeon on February 15, 2022, 03:28:20 AM
A former presidet of my country once said, you cant be proud of things you didnt achieve yourself.
Aka where your mom got creamed dont mean shit in the context that you could be proud of your country. You can like the place, you can be proud of your contribution to make it better, but blind nationalism is not a good route to go down.
Then again what would the pres. of Deutschland know about that sort of thing.

And yes, flying the looser flag of a bunch of racists, for sure makes people think you are racist too.
Doesnt really matter what you think it stands for.
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Post by: Jewel Runner on February 15, 2022, 03:38:52 AM
I don't know any facts but this is a great thread apart from the nazi discussion
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Post by: JamesFardy on February 15, 2022, 04:31:12 AM
Andrew is still in the ice bath.
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Post by: KGB on February 15, 2022, 05:24:41 AM
After you get that gnarly trick you must 360 flip after or it doesn’t count.
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Post by: pizzafliptofakie on February 15, 2022, 06:34:33 AM
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It’s owned by GT’s dad.  GT has/had a confederate flag in his house.  But yeah, total coincidence and no sus racist vibes at all that this family uses nazi imagery and has confederate flags in their homes.  Also nevermind that dude rocks the official facial hair of hate crimes;

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/action/players/full/new/3015639.jpg)
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Isn't the confederate flag a big southern thing? I don't get these people trying to associate it with nazis all the time, it's like you want a second civil war or something. I mean how many dictatorships there are in the world? Chill a little, let people be proud of their birthplace.
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The confederate flag originated as a battle flag for a unit led by a man who would go on to become the first grand wizard of the kkk.

Theres no defending that shit
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https://youtu.be/mYwGKcUF63A footage of how the confederate flag originated




it sucks so goddamn bad that Trevor passed away </3
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: stevedave on February 15, 2022, 07:00:54 AM
Andrew is still in the ice bath.

Thats because the ice is CGI, it's just a regular bath. 
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Post by: Cliff_Kaufman on February 15, 2022, 07:55:00 AM
Jason Lee named one of his kids Pilot Inspektor Lee
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Post by: Hastings on February 15, 2022, 08:11:29 AM
If you don't land a trick twice, the skateboard union considers it to be a fluke and you are not officially permitted to use it in your resume.
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Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on February 15, 2022, 08:35:00 AM
Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet

fuckin prove it
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Post by: Star Whores Episode I: The Fellatio Menace on February 15, 2022, 02:44:01 PM
Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)
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Post by: dakotalofton on February 15, 2022, 04:33:54 PM
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Andrew is still in the ice bath.
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there was no ice
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Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on February 15, 2022, 04:53:01 PM
Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)
jamie 'the chief' thomas also tried to publish the location of the albany pool in thrasher, they ultimately took the blurb out and replaced it with something like "then things got weird"

they filmed a porno at some east coast skatepark too. maybe bam's park? theres a photo of kerry getz front boarding a bump to rail and giving a thumbs up while people are fucking in the background
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Post by: WideFeet on February 15, 2022, 05:10:39 PM
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Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet
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fuckin prove it

Go on IG and check out Heckride’s story. Or, watch AO’s Pretty Sweet part and slow mo it yourself
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Post by: whoami on February 15, 2022, 05:15:50 PM
Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)
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Sucker punching someone is about as lame as it gets
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Post by: WideFeet on February 15, 2022, 05:18:30 PM
Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)

Pretty sure that was in Sacramento at Flatspot
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Post by: HolyFiver on February 15, 2022, 07:24:16 PM
Before Nike SB crashed the party, the whole skateboard industry was controlled by just 4 former pro freestylers.

Welinder, Pierre André, Mullen and Rocco.


And Reggie Barnes.. &#128561;&#128561;&#128561;
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Post by: manysnakes on February 15, 2022, 07:36:46 PM
Jason Lee named one of his kids Pilot Inspektor Lee

After the Granddaddy song “He’s Simple, He’s Dumb, He’s the Pilot”
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Post by: Gab on February 15, 2022, 11:31:27 PM
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Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)
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Pretty sure that was in Sacramento at Flatspot

Yes it definitely was
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: braksabbath on February 16, 2022, 12:10:34 AM
Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)

Sucker punching someone is about as lame as it gets
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Man was sucker punched in his heart
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: RoaryMcTwang on February 16, 2022, 02:15:02 AM
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Todd_falcon_Jenkem_Interview_Header_5.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Jewel Runner on February 16, 2022, 04:05:38 AM
Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)

Who sucker punched who? I'm assuming Duffel did

Is the Wes thing true? Seems petty lol
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cherry on February 16, 2022, 04:47:01 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/274030940_10166178053365092_7524959125118258068_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=XXmgw17WYMIAX_vPIiQ&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9nkMENif17TlbpSn5Wx9fpe4-oBFF3FHiLbaQy_ZYQHg&oe=6212BF36)

Haley Isaak and Dan corigan are actually the Mcpoyle twins from its always sunny

(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/273942804_10166178053630092_3183148857624537179_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=DgNR0qYJx8AAX-NX2aj&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT85mDLJcToIwlUn7L3SfRiK0pB49Ip09hsFVZcmGFXQIw&oe=621182A1)

Rumor has it they got into skating by bumping into Rodney Mullen outside paddy’s pub

(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/273873235_10166178055080092_7303730503088043280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=kYnnf4xrg6gAX_UZ-YH&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-1VLNCqHftWn_qFq3nJDn_YC2lN8KfDWTJw8yrSR_QNA&oe=6210FD8D)



Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: pdknox on February 16, 2022, 05:34:13 AM
always thought that beagle duffel pic was beagle fighting Corey for saying the n word
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Star Whores Episode I: The Fellatio Menace on February 16, 2022, 05:52:42 AM
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Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)
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Pretty sure that was in Sacramento at Flatspot
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Yes it definitely was

Thanks for clarifying. I tried to watch that season of KOTR and remembered Jim Greco wore that TK hoodie while in Denver, the same in which he got into the fight with the skateshop owner.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mean salto on February 16, 2022, 06:27:00 AM
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Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
(https://skateboardingsuckscom.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/beagle-beats-up-duffel.jpg)
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Pretty sure that was in Sacramento at Flatspot
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Yes it definitely was
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Thanks for clarifying. I tried to watch that season of KOTR and remembered Jim Greco wore that TK hoodie while in Denver, the same in which he got into the fight with the skateshop owner.
I feel like duffel gave his side of the story on MySpace or something at the time and was like beagle snuck up and pulled him off a ten foot wall and attacked him then pictures came out and he got clowned over the "ten foot wall"

Also didn't Koston fuck with some shop so they couldn't sell Indy or something because they didn't do whatever kotr bullshit.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cynical cow on February 16, 2022, 06:34:23 AM
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Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet
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fuckin prove it
i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: backside_frontside on February 16, 2022, 08:15:31 AM
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fuckin prove it
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.

After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on February 16, 2022, 08:33:09 AM
Duffman details the Beagle thing in his 9 Club interview. He is friends with the real Josh Beagle, and he had been going around saying that Beagle the filmer was not Beagle. Beagle the filmer took offense to that, and when his back was turned, yanked him off of a wall and punched him on the ground before running away.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Donkey Lips on February 16, 2022, 08:48:50 AM
Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road.

This was the event that brought Jamie to Slap. Jamie threw a temper tantrum because they didn't give him the location over the phone. He ended up finding it after asking rollerblades at a mall shop. The worst part was when Jamie was super upset over the whole thing and tried to get revenge by printing the location in the Thrasher article, but I guess Thrasher pulled it. He definitely had a Mean Girls phase.

Forgot to mention he wasn't given the location of the pool because the last time he was in Albany he ruined a spot to make a gap-to-rail thing and just acted like a weiner to everybody.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TastyBurrito on February 16, 2022, 08:59:36 AM
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Woodward has a "banned for life list" consisting of pros that hooked up with underaged girls at the nearby gymnastics camp while they visited.

When Fucking Awesome's website first launched, it consisted of only an online shop for $100 hoodies as well as a video montage from Bill Strobeck. Said video montage had no skating in it. Instead, it was a montage of footage of people having sex which he filmed through their apartment windows without consent.

James Brockman was beaten up by Shuriken Shannon for getting drunk and going on a racist tirade at him. Same for Andrew Reynolds and Gershon Mosely (there was even a Blind Graphic made for it).

Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

They filmed a porn scene at the Skate Lab park in Simi Valley. It concluded with the actor ejaculating on one of the ramps.

The stuff Andy Roy admitted to doing in his Big Brother Interview (Snuggle Bandit). This entire thread can subsist on things people admitted to in old Big Brother interviews.

Nate Sherwood apparently appeared in porn. I haven't seen proof of this, but it's been referenced enough times to either be true or an elaborate inside joke.

(not obscure to the older folks here) But Jamie Thomas threatened legal action on the Baker Team for trying to include a video of him skating around naked in Baker 2G.

Mike V made a documentary about all the fist fights he got into over the years. It's on youtube under Mike V's Greatest Hits.

Not really dark, but Lakai paid over six figures for the clips of Eric Koston skating in e's to use for Fully Flared.

Jamie Thomas canceled an account with a skate shop in Albany, NY because they wouldn't tell him the location of a secret bowl spot they wanted to hit for King of the Road. Similarly, Jim Greco was tasked with stealing a shirt from a skate shop in Denver for a KOTR challenge and ended up getting into a fistfight with the owner. It was in the credits of the DVD that came with the mag, but was pulled out in the youtube version.

Beagle beat up Corey Duffel in the middle of the course at the first Maloof Money Cup. Apparently, he sucker-punched him for hooking up with his girlfriend. Odd that Beagle and Corey Duffel would have the same taste in women.
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Who sucker punched who? I'm assuming Duffel did

Is the Wes thing true? Seems petty lol

How do you expect Wes to not smoke weed?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on February 16, 2022, 09:05:39 AM
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Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet
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fuckin prove it
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
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After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.

they ran the sequence as a girl ad way back and it looked sick as fuck, who gives a shit if he clipped
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: augustmoon on February 16, 2022, 12:32:18 PM
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He definitely had a Mean Girls phase.



He’s literally been like this his whole life
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Donkey Lips on February 16, 2022, 01:05:47 PM
There was the time Dan Murphy broke up with him and he was humble for a few hours.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: dakotalofton on February 16, 2022, 02:30:32 PM
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they filmed a porno at some east coast skatepark too. maybe bam's park? theres a photo of kerry getz front boarding a bump to rail and giving a thumbs up while people are fucking in the background





it was a porno at bams skatepark barn called Fantastic whores 4
believe Markovich was there to
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on February 16, 2022, 03:17:57 PM
Wes Kramer was banned from the Berrics for smoking weed while he was there.

man this is so funny but also the dumbest shit
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Owen on February 16, 2022, 04:57:44 PM
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fuckin prove it
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
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After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.
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they ran the sequence as a girl ad way back and it looked sick as fuck, who gives a shit if he clipped

What I took from the still frame posted was that as his wheels were behind the side of the table at the start that he didnt actually go over it, he just did a big ollie on flat next to the table. Is this the same conclusion others reached?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: doomstation55 on February 16, 2022, 05:19:28 PM
Bobby dekeyzer was bullied of DC Bc of his raging Harry Potter fandom.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: dannyprovolone on February 16, 2022, 05:22:58 PM
koston is a kook
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheDingus on February 16, 2022, 05:34:47 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/274030940_10166178053365092_7524959125118258068_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=XXmgw17WYMIAX_vPIiQ&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9nkMENif17TlbpSn5Wx9fpe4-oBFF3FHiLbaQy_ZYQHg&oe=6212BF36)

Haley Isaak and Dan corigan are actually the Mcpoyle twins from its always sunny

(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/273942804_10166178053630092_3183148857624537179_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=DgNR0qYJx8AAX-NX2aj&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT85mDLJcToIwlUn7L3SfRiK0pB49Ip09hsFVZcmGFXQIw&oe=621182A1)

Rumor has it they got into skating by bumping into Rodney Mullen outside paddy’s pub

(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/fr/cp0/e15/q65/273873235_10166178055080092_7303730503088043280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=kYnnf4xrg6gAX_UZ-YH&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-1VLNCqHftWn_qFq3nJDn_YC2lN8KfDWTJw8yrSR_QNA&oe=6210FD8D)

Amazing. Wonder when the women Dan abused are going to come out with their stories.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: yapple dapple on February 16, 2022, 05:58:07 PM
Can't confirm if this is a fact or not, But I heard Brad Staba mom slept with Ron Allen to get him on America Dream to open the doors to get him on Foundation.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Logic on February 16, 2022, 08:43:15 PM
https://www.surfertoday.com/skateboarding/eric-koston-facts-about-the-thai-american-street-skater
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Reed Richards on February 17, 2022, 08:09:33 AM
Elissa Steamer defended Jason Jesse despite all his white supremacy / nazi stuff. She is still his homie to this day , and has been one of the more respected people in the industry trying to rehab his image. At the DLX shop in SF Elissa told me that "slap" did not know Jason like she did. I thought she was tripping on that jenkem imo, what an absurd take. Elissa is a legend no doubt , but personally she lame.
Very lame. It’s just people taking up for their friends and not holding them accountable. Furthermore, it’s never up to a white person to absolve another white person of racism.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on February 17, 2022, 01:03:30 PM
Can't confirm if this is a fact or not, But I heard Brad Staba mom slept with Ron Allen to get him on America Dream to open the doors to get him on Foundation.

I remember this rumor, except I believe it was Fun, not American Dream. Supposedly one of the Walnut Creek guys was over at the condo where Brad and his Mom lived and saw Ron casually walk out of her room.

Any 1992 Visalia skate camp alumni here? There was a really attractive young lady from Pacifica who definitely wasn't 18 and was seen looking cozy with two different pros at two separate times who definitely were over 18. 
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: HatRemovalService on February 17, 2022, 01:17:29 PM
like Danny way killing a gay guy? idk actually
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on February 17, 2022, 01:23:03 PM
I once drunkenly stole a porno from Wade Speyer's house. The porno took place in this old west town that had fallen under a corrupt sheriff and his goons, and in between scenes of people fucking anyway, all the actors talked about The Snake, who was supposedly on his way to clean up the town and restore order. The Snake finally shows up for the last scene that he shares with two women. He's dressed exactly like Clint Eastwood in the Dollars Trilogy, and upon being disrobed by the women, it becomes clear to both them and the viewer why people call him The Snake. You'll have to watch it 'til the end to find out exactly why (no spoilers!).

Anyway, I only realized the next day that the porno was a rental so Wade probably had to go through the embarrassing and expensive ordeal of paying for its replacement. Sorry about that, Wade. I realize that this isn't exactly dark, and not really obscure, I guess. But it's a fact!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: chihuahuadad2000 on February 17, 2022, 01:32:49 PM
All the skateboarding facts you need to know are in this radio show.

https://youtu.be/0N1BRrkwqmI
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: yapple dapple on February 17, 2022, 04:59:19 PM
I once drunkenly stole a porno from Wade Speyer's house. The porno took place in this old west town that had fallen under a corrupt sheriff and his goons, and in between scenes of people fucking anyway, all the actors talked about The Snake, who was supposedly on his way to clean up the town and restore order. The Snake finally shows up for the last scene that he shares with two women. He's dressed exactly like Clint Eastwood in the Dollars Trilogy, and upon being disrobed by the women, it becomes clear to both them and the viewer why people call him The Snake. You'll have to watch it 'til the end to find out exactly why (no spoilers!).

Anyway, I only realized the next day that the porno was a rental so Wade probably had to go through the embarrassing and expensive ordeal of paying for its replacement. Sorry about that, Wade. I realize that this isn't exactly dark, and not really obscure, I guess. But it's a fact!
Was that when JJ, Karma, and Butch was staying there? If so we totally skated together.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 17, 2022, 08:31:22 PM
i dream of being able to casually mention skating with karma tsocheff
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: LostBearings on February 17, 2022, 11:17:41 PM
That some people think ams shouldn't be paid.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: KGB on February 18, 2022, 05:30:21 AM
That some people think ams shouldn't be paid.


 I am the some people.The term professional means you get paid, that’s what the difference is between am and pro. They should get flowed enough to sell product but not get a pay check until they are pro. Maybe some incentives here and there a long the way.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 18, 2022, 06:12:22 AM
there’s no meaningful distinction since you’re a 1099 anyway
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Post by: KGB on February 18, 2022, 06:31:28 AM
there’s no meaningful distinction since you’re a 1099 anyway
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 If your not sending a invoice your not going to receive a 1099. And since your not getting paid who are you going to invoice?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: behavioralguide on February 18, 2022, 06:35:02 AM
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That some people think ams shouldn't be paid.
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 I am the some people.The term professional means you get paid, that’s what the difference is between am and pro. They should get flowed enough to sell product but not get a pay check until they are pro. Maybe some incentives here and there a long the way.

so are you arguing that what goes as an am should be called a pro, irrelevant of them having a promodel?
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that brands should stop paying their am's, making them true amateurs?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: KGB on February 18, 2022, 06:40:20 AM
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That some people think ams shouldn't be paid.
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 I am the some people.The term professional means you get paid, that’s what the difference is between am and pro. They should get flowed enough to sell product but not get a pay check until they are pro. Maybe some incentives here and there a long the way.
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so are you arguing that what goes as an am should be called a pro, irrelevant of them having a promodel?
or
that brands should stop paying their am's, making them true amateurs?

I’m just stating the obvious difference between Pro and Am. That’s what separates professional from amateur, or at least that’s what it used to mean.
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Post by: behavioralguide on February 18, 2022, 06:43:03 AM
your only stating a(n arguably outdated) linguistic difference.

the reality today there is loads of am skaters getting paid.

So again, should they not be getting paid, or should they be called professionals?
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Post by: Mean salto on February 18, 2022, 06:44:05 AM
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That some people think ams shouldn't be paid.
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 I am the some people.The term professional means you get paid, that’s what the difference is between am and pro. They should get flowed enough to sell product but not get a pay check until they are pro. Maybe some incentives here and there a long the way.
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so are you arguing that what goes as an am should be called a pro, irrelevant of them having a promodel?
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I’m just stating the obvious difference between Pro and Am. That’s what separates professional from amateur, or at least that’s what it used to mean.
What it used to mean is irrelevant. The Olympics is supposed to be amateur event. They all get paid. You work you deserve to get paid. end of.
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Post by: cky enthusiast on February 18, 2022, 06:47:23 AM
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there’s no meaningful distinction since you’re a 1099 anyway
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what you just said doesn’t make sense!!
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Post by: KGB on February 18, 2022, 06:53:43 AM
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That some people think ams shouldn't be paid.
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so are you arguing that what goes as an am should be called a pro, irrelevant of them having a promodel?
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that brands should stop paying their am's, making them true amateurs?
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I’m just stating the obvious difference between Pro and Am. That’s what separates professional from amateur, or at least that’s what it used to mean.
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What it used to mean is irrelevant. The Olympics is supposed to be amateur event. They all get paid. You work you deserve to get paid. end of.

Yeah I see what your saying, I guess it only matters if you have a name on a board at this point.
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Post by: KGB on February 18, 2022, 06:55:48 AM
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there’s no meaningful distinction since you’re a 1099 anyway
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what you just said doesn’t make sense!!
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Care to point out the obvious? Because I don’t know what you mean by that
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Beeker on February 18, 2022, 07:05:38 AM
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Elissa Steamer defended Jason Jesse despite all his white supremacy / nazi stuff. She is still his homie to this day , and has been one of the more respected people in the industry trying to rehab his image. At the DLX shop in SF Elissa told me that "slap" did not know Jason like she did. I thought she was tripping on that jenkem imo, what an absurd take. Elissa is a legend no doubt , but personally she lame.
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Very lame. It’s just people taking up for their friends and not holding them accountable. Furthermore, it’s never up to a white person to absolve another white person of racism.

There's a video somewhere of her low-key bragging about how her and someone else (can't remember) used to poke holes in free condoms and put them back. Always thought that was dark as shit.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on February 18, 2022, 07:43:11 AM
I once drunkenly stole a porno from Wade Speyer's house. The porno took place in this old west town that had fallen under a corrupt sheriff and his goons, and in between scenes of people fucking anyway, all the actors talked about The Snake, who was supposedly on his way to clean up the town and restore order. The Snake finally shows up for the last scene that he shares with two women. He's dressed exactly like Clint Eastwood in the Dollars Trilogy, and upon being disrobed by the women, it becomes clear to both them and the viewer why people call him The Snake. You'll have to watch it 'til the end to find out exactly why (no spoilers!).

Anyway, I only realized the next day that the porno was a rental so Wade probably had to go through the embarrassing and expensive ordeal of paying for its replacement. Sorry about that, Wade. I realize that this isn't exactly dark, and not really obscure, I guess. But it's a fact!

stolen from Wade's personal Hot Batch
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Alan on February 18, 2022, 08:20:56 AM
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I once drunkenly stole a porno from Wade Speyer's house. The porno took place in this old west town that had fallen under a corrupt sheriff and his goons, and in between scenes of people fucking anyway, all the actors talked about The Snake, who was supposedly on his way to clean up the town and restore order. The Snake finally shows up for the last scene that he shares with two women. He's dressed exactly like Clint Eastwood in the Dollars Trilogy, and upon being disrobed by the women, it becomes clear to both them and the viewer why people call him The Snake. You'll have to watch it 'til the end to find out exactly why (no spoilers!).

Anyway, I only realized the next day that the porno was a rental so Wade probably had to go through the embarrassing and expensive ordeal of paying for its replacement. Sorry about that, Wade. I realize that this isn't exactly dark, and not really obscure, I guess. But it's a fact!
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i see what you did there
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
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Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
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After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.
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they ran the sequence as a girl ad way back and it looked sick as fuck, who gives a shit if he clipped
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What I took from the still frame posted was that as his wheels were behind the side of the table at the start that he didnt actually go over it, he just did a big ollie on flat next to the table. Is this the same conclusion others reached?
believe it or not, that would be harder. it's physically impossibel for the human body to do it's highest ollie with no structure to go over so it's possible he veered a bit but i don't think he could be completely next to it and still summons the pop to go over. i tend to drift towards the toe side of big obstacles myself.
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Post by: Dusty on February 18, 2022, 09:01:20 AM
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Elissa Steamer defended Jason Jesse despite all his white supremacy / nazi stuff. She is still his homie to this day , and has been one of the more respected people in the industry trying to rehab his image. At the DLX shop in SF Elissa told me that "slap" did not know Jason like she did. I thought she was tripping on that jenkem imo, what an absurd take. Elissa is a legend no doubt , but personally she lame.
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Very lame. It’s just people taking up for their friends and not holding them accountable. Furthermore, it’s never up to a white person to absolve another white person of racism.
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There's a video somewhere of her low-key bragging about how her and someone else (can't remember) used to poke holes in free condoms and put them back. Always thought that was dark as shit.

http://youtu.be/0jY0_QZhTh4
3:40. She was talking about Heath and Josh Beagle
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on February 18, 2022, 09:05:39 AM
So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on February 18, 2022, 09:10:36 AM
lol a single person posted it and it was almost immediately corrected with evidence
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Post by: grimcity on February 18, 2022, 09:31:47 AM
Nothing sinister, but pretty damned obscure... back when I was a kiddo, I used to trip out on Dinkins boned-out melons (very first thumbnail at the top of this ad).

Turns out, he couldn't ollie. All of his melon photos (on the street) were done via early grab, which I just find awesome.

(https://grimcitytv.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/ChuckDinkins.png)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: GuessAgain? on February 18, 2022, 09:36:59 AM
Was it true that Justin Pierce's wife left him for Guy and he committed suicide after or was it just rumours and Guy got together with her after Justin had passed?
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Post by: TastyBurrito on February 18, 2022, 09:55:46 AM
Was it true that Justin Pierce's wife left him for Guy and he committed suicide after or was it just rumours and Guy got together with her after Justin had passed?

The rumor I heard was she cheated with Guy rather than leave Justin for Guy.

Anyways, that was what I heard. I don't know the validity of that rumor.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on February 18, 2022, 10:32:10 AM
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I once drunkenly stole a porno from Wade Speyer's house. The porno took place in this old west town that had fallen under a corrupt sheriff and his goons, and in between scenes of people fucking anyway, all the actors talked about The Snake, who was supposedly on his way to clean up the town and restore order. The Snake finally shows up for the last scene that he shares with two women. He's dressed exactly like Clint Eastwood in the Dollars Trilogy, and upon being disrobed by the women, it becomes clear to both them and the viewer why people call him The Snake. You'll have to watch it 'til the end to find out exactly why (no spoilers!).

Anyway, I only realized the next day that the porno was a rental so Wade probably had to go through the embarrassing and expensive ordeal of paying for its replacement. Sorry about that, Wade. I realize that this isn't exactly dark, and not really obscure, I guess. But it's a fact!
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Was that when JJ, Karma, and Butch was staying there? If so we totally skated together.

Hello, MT! It was indeed. Karma was a frightening dude.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on February 18, 2022, 03:08:02 PM
Was it true that Justin Pierce's wife left him for Guy and he committed suicide after or was it just rumours and Guy got together with her after Justin had passed?

Correlation does not equal causation
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: pulaski on February 18, 2022, 03:21:02 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation
there's a blog about it and about jason lee doing cocaine with bastien salabanzi.
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Post by: jakeumms on February 18, 2022, 05:00:22 PM
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there's a blog about it and about jason lee doing cocaine with bastien salabanzi.
That blog is a work of fiction though. I mean Bastian acted crazy at contests so there is some truth to that but Jason Lee probably never had to couch surf or ride for Skate Mental
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: pulaski on February 18, 2022, 05:14:59 PM
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That blog is a work of fiction though. I mean Bastian acted crazy at contests so there is some truth to that but Jason Lee probably never had to couch surf or ride for Skate Mental
are you sure? that blog was pretty detailed for fiction. who could know all the inner workings of jason lee's mind? i think it's pretty obvious he wrote it in ironic 3rd person.
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Post by: jakeumms on February 18, 2022, 05:55:57 PM
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That blog is a work of fiction though. I mean Bastian acted crazy at contests so there is some truth to that but Jason Lee probably never had to couch surf or ride for Skate Mental
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are you sure? that blog was pretty detailed for fiction. who could know all the inner workings of jason lee's mind? i think it's pretty obvious he wrote it in ironic 3rd person.
Yes I used to know the writer's name but I've forgotten. They're an artist and I think they lived in Texas when I tried to figure out what the deal was with that blog, which was at least 5 years ago. Their publisher also came on and talked about the writer's other work which I believe was all skate related, at least for that publisher. If you want me to put on my profiler cap, I would say they were someone who had flow level talent during the golden era and lived in California until they were pretty sure they were never gonna get put on and then dipped to explore other creative endeavors. There's definitely some insider truth to those stories on that blog but I think that's probably what makes them so compelling as works of fiction.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: muntcuscle on February 18, 2022, 11:19:08 PM
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lenny kirk is worth a google OP
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Just watch this. Then do the google deep dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXiwxD9Pa4&ab_channel=VICE

this is real real dark
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Post by: Not_Bruce on February 19, 2022, 05:39:23 AM
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there's a blog about it and about jason lee doing cocaine with bastien salabanzi.

is this the blog you are referring to ?

http://secondhandembarrassment.blogspot.com/search/label/Roosevelt%20Hotel
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Post by: backside_frontside on February 19, 2022, 05:53:07 AM
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Today I learned: AO faked his picnic table ollie in Pretty Sweet
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fuckin prove it
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
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After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.
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they ran the sequence as a girl ad way back and it looked sick as fuck, who gives a shit if he clipped

I mean, if you’re ollieing over something, the goal is to clear it, without clipping. Coming up short isn’t a make. A non make photo can look cool, but it doesn’t change the fact that he came up short. Guess we have different standards for pros ollieing over things. If you clipped, do it again proper. Sorry bud.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: urbneathme on February 19, 2022, 06:30:46 AM
there is that antihero promo thinv with the skrewdriver song. that’s pretty grim
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Post by: WavyDavy on February 19, 2022, 08:08:53 AM
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lenny kirk is worth a google OP
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Just watch this. Then do the google deep dive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXiwxD9Pa4&ab_channel=VICE
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this is real real dark

Worth a read
https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2015/12/chrome-ball-interview-88-lennie-kirk.html?m=1
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on February 19, 2022, 08:10:39 AM
Bonite was really just a resin-less, engineered cellulose product known as Yorkite in the materials trades.
Yorkite & tarpaper. And, oh yeah… poplar.
It wasn’t until the intro of Bonite XT that the boards were made with maple veneers between the “paper sandwich” laminate.
But THAT wasn’t really a DARK or OBSCURE fact, was it?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: layzieyez on February 19, 2022, 08:21:47 AM
Bonite was really just a resin-less, engineered cellulose product known as Yorkite in the materials trades.
Yorkite & tarpaper. And, oh yeah… poplar.
It wasn’t until the intro of Bonite XT that the boards were made with maple veneers between the “paper sandwich” laminate.
But THAT wasn’t really a DARK or OBSCURE fact, was it?
Launch ramp days was a great time to introduce this technological marvel.
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Post by: jakeumms on February 19, 2022, 09:49:55 AM
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is this the blog you are referring to ?

http://secondhandembarrassment.blogspot.com/search/label/Roosevelt%20Hotel
That's the one
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Post by: manysnakes on February 19, 2022, 10:18:13 AM
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Elissa Steamer defended Jason Jesse despite all his white supremacy / nazi stuff. She is still his homie to this day , and has been one of the more respected people in the industry trying to rehab his image. At the DLX shop in SF Elissa told me that "slap" did not know Jason like she did. I thought she was tripping on that jenkem imo, what an absurd take. Elissa is a legend no doubt , but personally she lame.
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Very lame. It’s just people taking up for their friends and not holding them accountable. Furthermore, it’s never up to a white person to absolve another white person of racism.
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There's a video somewhere of her low-key bragging about how her and someone else (can't remember) used to poke holes in free condoms and put them back. Always thought that was dark as shit.
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http://youtu.be/0jY0_QZhTh4
3:40. She was talking about Heath and Josh Beagle

I've heard and read so many stories about Heath that make him seem like a stone cold sociopath.
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Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on February 19, 2022, 11:19:34 AM
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fuckin prove it
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
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After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.
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they ran the sequence as a girl ad way back and it looked sick as fuck, who gives a shit if he clipped
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I mean, if you’re ollieing over something, the goal is to clear it, without clipping. Coming up short isn’t a make. A non make photo can look cool, but it doesn’t change the fact that he came up short. Guess we have different standards for pros ollieing over things. If you clipped, do it again proper. Sorry bud.
aw man alex olson is less cool now because internet numbnuts decided his trick wasnt "proper" enough damn my life sucks so bad
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: mattchew on February 19, 2022, 11:23:45 AM
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Elissa Steamer defended Jason Jesse despite all his white supremacy / nazi stuff. She is still his homie to this day , and has been one of the more respected people in the industry trying to rehab his image. At the DLX shop in SF Elissa told me that "slap" did not know Jason like she did. I thought she was tripping on that jenkem imo, what an absurd take. Elissa is a legend no doubt , but personally she lame.
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Very lame. It’s just people taking up for their friends and not holding them accountable. Furthermore, it’s never up to a white person to absolve another white person of racism.
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There's a video somewhere of her low-key bragging about how her and someone else (can't remember) used to poke holes in free condoms and put them back. Always thought that was dark as shit.
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http://youtu.be/0jY0_QZhTh4
3:40. She was talking about Heath and Josh Beagle
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I've heard and read so many stories about Heath that make him seem like a stone cold sociopath.

Sight Unseen is one of my favorite parts ever but by all accounts he seems to be a gargantuan insecure piece of shit. Oh well, no idols, ever.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on February 19, 2022, 12:48:40 PM
Oh well, no idols, ever.
Really solid advice here, kids.
Listen to uncle mattchew.
Tha’s wassup!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: NoComply180 on February 19, 2022, 01:09:18 PM
I think this is somewhat common knowledge, but Neil Heddings’ wife/baby mother used to walk around the ocean beach skatepark delusionally talking about their kid that died and asking where the baby was etc from what I can remember. I was 10-12 or so and that shit disturbed me. Saw a lot of weird things at that park.

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Post by: pinche gringo on February 19, 2022, 01:48:40 PM
Karma was a frightening dude.

Haha. I grew up in Visalia. Karma’s really cool, but I could see how he could give you that vibe. When we were teenagers one of the kids I knew sarcastically asked him for his autograph and he appropriately responded “What, my knuckles on your forehead?”
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Post by: doublesteveburger on February 19, 2022, 01:58:31 PM
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fuckin prove it
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i don't get it either. the still in the story didn't prove anything for me just that he could have been more to the right of the table than middle . and his shadow stayed under the table while he went over it.
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After looking at it more and watching the clip in slo mo, I guess he could’ve gone over it diagonally. Pop over the bench part cuz it’s lower. That approach kinda lessens it for me. You can hear his tail slap the end, which definitely lessens it even more. Shouldn’t have made the cut, but oh well, done been one up’d anyhow.
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they ran the sequence as a girl ad way back and it looked sick as fuck, who gives a shit if he clipped
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I mean, if you’re ollieing over something, the goal is to clear it, without clipping. Coming up short isn’t a make. A non make photo can look cool, but it doesn’t change the fact that he came up short. Guess we have different standards for pros ollieing over things. If you clipped, do it again proper. Sorry bud.
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aw man alex olson is less cool now because internet numbnuts decided his trick wasnt "proper" enough damn my life sucks so bad


yeah man now you’re getting it
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Reed Richards on February 19, 2022, 03:34:40 PM
there is that antihero promo thinv with the skrewdriver song. that’s pretty grim
Wait, seriously?
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Post by: WPG on February 19, 2022, 03:48:44 PM
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Wait, seriously?

Yes, but it’s from the the 70s original version of Skrewdriver. In the 80s the singer reused the name and they became a white supremacist band. A member of the OG Skrewdrivers kid went to the school I work at. Good kid, he explained the 2 different bands same name thing to me
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Post by: ok boomer on February 19, 2022, 04:03:13 PM
"All Skrewed up" album is the punk album by them in 1977. Song is from that album called "where's it gonna end?" . This version of the band ended in 1979.  Ian reused the band name later with none of those band members,  and then it was the white power band that they are known as.
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Post by: urbneathme on February 19, 2022, 05:37:33 PM
you’re all assuredly right, but also, maybe just don’t? like it’s obvious what you’re doing - with any skrewdriver song
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Post by: cky enthusiast on February 19, 2022, 05:57:39 PM
at the least pick from one of the zillion other bands from that era who didn’t go on to reform as nazis
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Post by: augustmoon on February 19, 2022, 06:09:11 PM
Haven’t all of us had that one late night at the bar where you get cornered by a traditional skinhead that has to explain the non-racist roots of the subculture and inevitably mentions that Skrewdriver’s first album is “actually really good bro”
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Post by: doublesteveburger on February 19, 2022, 06:23:23 PM
it’s like when people use the swastika and have to explain it’s origin but can’t read the room but in this instance the room is the world and people is jason jesse
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Post by: Chavo on February 19, 2022, 06:35:23 PM
So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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Post by: yapple dapple on February 19, 2022, 07:03:36 PM
What about I-level? Poor Billy lane. Anyone got the true facts on that pedo company?
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Post by: augustmoon on February 19, 2022, 07:09:12 PM
I know I sent them a tape when I was in high school, so I’d like to think a document of my shitty driveway skating is still sitting in an FBI evidence box somewhere
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Post by: Chavo on February 19, 2022, 07:14:14 PM
What about I-level? Poor Billy lane. Anyone got the true facts on that pedo company?

I had them confused with "Hectic Skateboards", same m.o. at least.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on February 19, 2022, 07:16:56 PM
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I had them confused with "Hectic Skateboards", same m.o. at least.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html)

man ive heard of a bad TM but this guy takes the cake
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Post by: Lou Strux on February 19, 2022, 09:41:38 PM
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I had them confused with "Hectic Skateboards", same m.o. at least.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html)
Let’s add the Atnalta Foundation to the list of creepy pedo incidents.

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2019/11/05/sexual-predator-infiltrated-atlantas-skate-scene/
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Post by: Leek on February 20, 2022, 05:36:05 AM
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I had them confused with "Hectic Skateboards", same m.o. at least.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-sep-25-me-skate25-story.html)
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Let’s add the Atnalta Foundation to the list of creepy pedo incidents.

https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2019/11/05/sexual-predator-infiltrated-atlantas-skate-scene/

Holy shit that makes so much sense. A local “legend” from my hometown in coastal Georgia brought back two Atnalta boards from an ATL trip. At the time was grooming this young kid to be the next local prodigy (who died in a car accident 2 years ago) and was diddling him for a few years behind everyone’s back. The kids mother even took in the guy and gave him a place to stay. It was terrible dude. Had no idea that chomos affiliated each other like that in skateboarding.
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Post by: Lou Strux on February 20, 2022, 06:45:37 AM
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the owner was a homosexual pedo-nonce and installed cameras in the urinals.
Fixed that for you. Let’s not get the two twisted: I know you’re not trying to come on here sounding like a dunce, so this one’s free.

Also, if we’re talking about creepy predator types, look no further than Woodward. It was spawned out of a gymnastics camp, for crying out loud, & there have been more than enough media stories about THAT sport in the last few years (we all know about the creeps that lurk therein by now.) The skateboarding side was added on because gymnastics was seeing a general decline in popularity among da youts, while at skateboarding was on the rise at the time.
Mark my words, my kids will never set foot in a Woodward facility. Icky vibes all over that place.
I am of the opinion that it is only a matter of time until the lid is blown off of that joint too.
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Post by: cky enthusiast on February 20, 2022, 06:46:38 AM
woodward: kid jail with the chance to skate with anthony shetler

would not recommend
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Post by: funeral_tuxedo on February 20, 2022, 06:53:02 AM
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the owner was a homosexual pedo-nonce and installed cameras in the urinals.
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Fixed that for you. Let’s not get the two twisted: I know you’re not trying to come on here sounding like a dunce, so this one’s free.

Also, if we’re talking about creepy predator types, look no further than Woodward. It was spawned out of a gymnastics camp, for crying out loud, & there have been more than enough media stories about THAT sport in the last few years (we all know about the creeps that lurk therein by now.) The skateboarding side was added on because gymnastics was seeing a general decline in popularity among da youts, while at skateboarding was on the rise at the time.
Mark my words, my kids will never set foot in a Woodward facility. Icky vibes all over that place.
I am of the opinion that it is only a matter of time until the lid is blown off of that joint too.

Are they still affiliated with Neil Hendrix?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: WavyDavy on February 20, 2022, 08:57:16 AM
About Neil Hendrix:

https://deadspin.com/skateboarder-says-former-usa-skateboarding-executive-ab-1829972039/amp

https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/25295553/district-attorney-drops-case-usa-skateboarding-neal-hendrix?platform=amp

Brian patch:

https://www.espn.com/action/skateboarding/news/story?id=6542382

Well, He is dating Andy Roy's ex girlfriend
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on February 20, 2022, 11:22:30 AM
Haven’t all of us had that one late night at the bar where you get cornered by a traditional skinhead that has to explain the non-racist roots of the subculture and inevitably mentions that Skrewdriver’s first album is “actually really good bro”

There was a parody band out of Berkeley in the mid-aughts called Jewdriver. Can't remember if they were all Jewish or not but their whole schtick was Semitic supremacy. Saw em live a couple of times and they were great!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on February 20, 2022, 11:56:29 AM
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There was a parody band out of Berkeley in the mid-aughts called Jewdriver. Can't remember if they were all Jewish or not but their whole schtick was Semitic supremacy. Saw em live a couple of times and they were great!
Jewdriver was awesome/hilarious.

What part of God’s chosen people DON’T you understand?!?  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Tuff Lover on February 21, 2022, 09:49:38 PM
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nazis and skateboarding are deeply rooted
still can be seen wherever you go
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always just an accident
seems like those transition guys always happen to stumble upon the wrong clipart folders
funny part is america thinks they are the entire world and racism is black vs white vs east asian
when its fucking clear that facism has killed millions of jews and calls every middle eastern person a terrorist
but im pretty sure you can have a chill sess with them if youre black or east asian that likes beer
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Pretty sure that "SS" is Stratosphere Skateboards chill
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It's pointless. People on Slap are obsessed with divining the hidden meaning of every symbol in the skate industry, which is apparently controlled by secret Nazis, rather than a bunch of drunk morons who, in a pre-woke period, believed that some right wing imagery most closely associated by with outlaw biker gangs, looked cool.

Because, you see, if a gentile sees a certain image, they have a Manchurian Candidate-like reaction and automatically restart the holocaust, and similarly Jews like me encounter the letters "SS" and have epigenetic memory of my grandmother's door in the shtetl getting kicked in by the District of Galicia. This action causes me to curl into a ball for the next six months.
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its very very important to teach people about the meaning behind the symbols. i do not believe those guys were just fans of biker gangs. and if so do your research since anything those guys talk about is being the real deal. its pretty emberassing and fake to not know your knowledge behind those logos and ripping them of to make your skateboards look cool.. you really think those guys were that fake?
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No, I sincerely believe that they were smuggling covert Nazi imagery into all parts of skateboarding in order to resurrect the fourth reich.
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this or they were just close to biker nazi gangs because biker nazi gangs are just human beings like us skateboarders. s/o jason jesse
(https://i.ibb.co/jHgcdLJ/E5DsvyN.jpg)

Isn't this a Hunter S. Thompson book cover? And yeah he was known for spending 2 years with the Hell's Angels who stomped him out

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqhQ79MG/th-2022-02-22-T005049-747.jpg)

https://youtu.be/nX3WgrQ2uVY
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Magnolia on February 22, 2022, 10:45:09 AM
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Haven’t all of us had that one late night at the bar where you get cornered by a traditional skinhead that has to explain the non-racist roots of the subculture and inevitably mentions that Skrewdriver’s first album is “actually really good bro”
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There was a parody band out of Berkeley in the mid-aughts called Jewdriver. Can't remember if they were all Jewish or not but their whole schtick was Semitic supremacy. Saw em live a couple of times and they were great!
Negro Terror was a sick hardcore band from Memphis that did some sick antifash covers of Skrewdriver songs
RIP Omar
https://youtu.be/vbYkz5CBMas
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on February 22, 2022, 04:48:55 PM
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Haven’t all of us had that one late night at the bar where you get cornered by a traditional skinhead that has to explain the non-racist roots of the subculture and inevitably mentions that Skrewdriver’s first album is “actually really good bro”
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There was a parody band out of Berkeley in the mid-aughts called Jewdriver. Can't remember if they were all Jewish or not but their whole schtick was Semitic supremacy. Saw em live a couple of times and they were great!
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Negro Terror was a sick hardcore band from Memphis that did some sick antifash covers of Skrewdriver songs
RIP Omar
https://youtu.be/vbYkz5CBMas

Whoa, hadn't heard of these guys. They shred!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Leenwover on February 22, 2022, 06:44:52 PM
Truth gets “Silenced”.
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Post by: Magnolia on February 22, 2022, 07:14:20 PM
Truth gets “Silenced”.
(https://i.ibb.co/W6tQwcP/image.png)



(https://i.ibb.co/df0QPfG/image.png)
What do you know
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Youoverthere on February 23, 2022, 04:26:19 AM
Haven’t all of us had that one late night at the bar where you get cornered by a traditional skinhead that has to explain the non-racist roots of the subculture and inevitably mentions that Skrewdriver’s first album is “actually really good bro”
This exact scenario gets thrown on me all the time. Lol
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jorge on February 23, 2022, 06:08:39 AM
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This exact scenario gets thrown on me all the time. Lol
Where are there still skinheads?  I haven't seen one in years.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Star Whores Episode I: The Fellatio Menace on February 24, 2022, 04:03:12 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Idk on February 24, 2022, 04:14:26 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
ewww Tobin Yellend.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cynical cow on February 24, 2022, 04:14:49 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on February 24, 2022, 05:37:13 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol

Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ninformatic on February 24, 2022, 06:04:22 PM
Hardbody actually doesn't exist
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Post by: ok boomer on February 24, 2022, 06:20:37 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark

Also obscure
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: breezer on February 25, 2022, 12:00:31 PM
Haven’t all of us had that one late night at the bar where you get cornered by a traditional skinhead that has to explain the non-racist roots of the subculture and inevitably mentions that Skrewdriver’s first album is “actually really good bro”

was there an episode of the letters where Jeff wears a Skrewdriver tee?  He should have given to his buddy 10/10. 
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Post by: Mike Oxwelling on February 25, 2022, 12:01:18 PM
Shecks lied.  And people died.
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Post by: TelethonJohn on February 25, 2022, 03:59:40 PM
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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Also obscure

That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.
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Post by: Uncle Flea on February 26, 2022, 05:21:35 AM
Greg Carroll invented the hard flip
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Post by: Groondor the Orc on March 05, 2022, 02:15:53 AM
Not obscure but what happened to Baby Scumbag. Keelan Dadd is still around.
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Post by: somefucker on March 05, 2022, 05:30:33 AM
at a Baker demo in 2014 Reynolds was the first dude in the park with his board. Kids and adults alike swarmed him for pics, autographs, etc. One thing that stuck out in my mind was some dude had a blank deck but used packing tape and fixed the (crappily cut out) 'Reynolds' portion of a box of aluminum foil to his board. I don't think Reynolds really cared, but he didn't take a photo with the dude or sign the deck. I believe the guys name was King James on instagram. A heavy dude who would post obviously staged pics of him front crooking stupid tall ledges. I wonder if Andrew remembers
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Post by: alonelikeastone on March 05, 2022, 06:34:17 AM
I can't seem to recall the rumours/truth about a Steve Olson Foundation board... but something to do with Kurdt Kobain and Kourtney Love... possibly she saw the deck and had a C&D???
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Post by: alonelikeastone on March 05, 2022, 06:35:31 AM
oh and she has a gun in the graphic... so there is that. I'd love to get my hands on one of these decks... I've never seen one.
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Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on March 20, 2022, 02:16:53 PM
the part of baxter street that the nuge bombed isn't the part that's one of the steepest streets in LA, that's on the other side
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: planman on March 21, 2022, 12:21:35 AM
Surprised nobody's brought up the fact that Ethan Fowler is a massive bag of shit:
Quote from: Benny Fairfax
So we go to Ethan Fowler’s house, we have this little BBQ then it’s all ‘we’re going to the bar now like, Ethan’s band is going to play dude, sick’. So we were in some little basement bar in Downtown LA, and you know he plays his show – everyone’s had a few beers – whatever… It was really loud in there and so he just kinda cornered me like: ‘hey man, not too many n****rs in here is there? You must feel super out of place dude, look around.’ And I just, I just froze – like what the fuck? He knew that I was the little kid on the team, the new guy coming over here from England, and that he was in this position of power. Like I’m fucking Ethan Fowler, like I can say whatever I want to you. So yeah, ‘not too many n****rs in here, you must feel pretty out of place man.’ And I’m just like ‘errrr’ and I’ll never forget he looked me in the eyes smiling and said, ‘you probably want to punch me right now don’t you? But you’re not gonna are you?’ And then he walked off. I was left there frozen like, ‘oh fuck…’ I didn’t know what to do. I just left and got a taxi to wherever I was staying that night and that was kinda it.
https://www.freeskatemag.com/2021/06/04/the-american-dream-part-4-of-6-benny-fairfax/
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Post by: goldenbullcow on March 21, 2022, 06:16:00 AM
There was a story about Ethan terrorizing a young Quim Cardona on a DLX tour like had Quim cowering locked in bathroom trying to attack him cause he was “a hippie”


From Quim’s chrome ball

Love it. Alright, DLX tours are always pretty crazy. I know there is legend involving a young Ethan Fowler targeting you in a drunken rampage, essentially involving him pounding through the bathroom door Shining-style, hellbent on getting you. Is that true? What actually happened that night?

Yeah, there were moments where things got out of control.

On that night, the cold hotel ground was my bed and I had a folded-up t-shirt for a pillow. I moved someone’s shoes and later when he came back from their party, Ethan thought somebody was pulling a prank. I told him that I moved them and when I went to the bathroom, he started punching through door.

Never move another man’s shoes.


Ethan also spoke about it in an interview I’ll try and find it.

Anyone who knows Quim knows he’s one of the nicest dudes. 
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on March 21, 2022, 06:54:32 AM
Jeremy Klein has defs jerked off to at least 7 of
Jim Greco’s personality crisis' if not more
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: okdokeydirtbite on March 21, 2022, 12:45:22 PM
Surprised nobody's brought up the fact that Ethan Fowler is a massive bag of shit:
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So we go to Ethan Fowler’s house, we have this little BBQ then it’s all ‘we’re going to the bar now like, Ethan’s band is going to play dude, sick’. So we were in some little basement bar in Downtown LA, and you know he plays his show – everyone’s had a few beers – whatever… It was really loud in there and so he just kinda cornered me like: ‘hey man, not too many n****rs in here is there? You must feel super out of place dude, look around.’ And I just, I just froze – like what the fuck? He knew that I was the little kid on the team, the new guy coming over here from England, and that he was in this position of power. Like I’m fucking Ethan Fowler, like I can say whatever I want to you. So yeah, ‘not too many n****rs in here, you must feel pretty out of place man.’ And I’m just like ‘errrr’ and I’ll never forget he looked me in the eyes smiling and said, ‘you probably want to punch me right now don’t you? But you’re not gonna are you?’ And then he walked off. I was left there frozen like, ‘oh fuck…’ I didn’t know what to do. I just left and got a taxi to wherever I was staying that night and that was kinda it.
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https://www.freeskatemag.com/2021/06/04/the-american-dream-part-4-of-6-benny-fairfax/

what in the actual fuck
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BallDontLie on March 21, 2022, 06:47:25 PM
There was a story about Ethan terrorizing a young Quim Cardona on a DLX tour like had Quim cowering locked in bathroom trying to attack him cause he was “a hippie”


From Quim’s chrome ball

Love it. Alright, DLX tours are always pretty crazy. I know there is legend involving a young Ethan Fowler targeting you in a drunken rampage, essentially involving him pounding through the bathroom door Shining-style, hellbent on getting you. Is that true? What actually happened that night?

Yeah, there were moments where things got out of control.

On that night, the cold hotel ground was my bed and I had a folded-up t-shirt for a pillow. I moved someone’s shoes and later when he came back from their party, Ethan thought somebody was pulling a prank. I told him that I moved them and when I went to the bathroom, he started punching through door.

Never move another man’s shoes.


Ethan also spoke about it in an interview I’ll try and find it.

Anyone who knows Quim knows he’s one of the nicest dudes.

Or Ryan Hickey and Fred terrorizing Ethan throwing chairs at him while he swam… i wish there was footage of this

“ We’d go to Tampa and vibe those guys hard. Like, I remember throwing shit off the balcony at Ethan Fowler while he was swimming in the pool one night. Freddie and I are all wasted, 4 stories up, throwing chairs at him.  Just terrible the shit we used to do.”

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2016/07/chrome-ball-interview-94-ryan-hickey_92.html?m=1

Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: what is wrong with you on March 21, 2022, 07:26:50 PM
matt allen is ron allen’s son
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on March 21, 2022, 07:44:44 PM
Ron Allen is, despite his positive public demeanor, an very unhappy person.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Paul Cicero on March 21, 2022, 08:57:02 PM
Surprised nobody's brought up the fact that Ethan Fowler is a massive bag of shit:
Quote from: Benny Fairfax
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So we go to Ethan Fowler’s house, we have this little BBQ then it’s all ‘we’re going to the bar now like, Ethan’s band is going to play dude, sick’. So we were in some little basement bar in Downtown LA, and you know he plays his show – everyone’s had a few beers – whatever… It was really loud in there and so he just kinda cornered me like: ‘hey man, not too many n****rs in here is there? You must feel super out of place dude, look around.’ And I just, I just froze – like what the fuck? He knew that I was the little kid on the team, the new guy coming over here from England, and that he was in this position of power. Like I’m fucking Ethan Fowler, like I can say whatever I want to you. So yeah, ‘not too many n****rs in here, you must feel pretty out of place man.’ And I’m just like ‘errrr’ and I’ll never forget he looked me in the eyes smiling and said, ‘you probably want to punch me right now don’t you? But you’re not gonna are you?’ And then he walked off. I was left there frozen like, ‘oh fuck…’ I didn’t know what to do. I just left and got a taxi to wherever I was staying that night and that was kinda it.
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https://www.freeskatemag.com/2021/06/04/the-american-dream-part-4-of-6-benny-fairfax/

So shitty to read
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on March 21, 2022, 09:15:38 PM
Andrew Allen and Zach Allen are fraternal twins.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 22, 2022, 12:37:25 AM
Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: 2000 on March 22, 2022, 12:47:07 AM
if you rotate the alien whrkshop logo sideways, it says "neilb"
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: veritas on March 22, 2022, 04:01:00 AM
Chase Gabor and his friends held down his neighbor and shoved a screwdriver up his ass when they were growing up
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: milk.razor on March 22, 2022, 04:43:29 AM
Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.

One bad look after another for that shop. After the last time I got vibed out by employees and the only boards on the wall were FA, i decided to spend my money across town..
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: goldenbullcow on March 22, 2022, 05:57:57 AM
The Randy Rush story is very dark
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on March 22, 2022, 10:47:22 AM
if you rotate the alien whrkshop logo sideways, it says "neilb"
Sunnuvabitch, it’s true!
This tidbit just brightened my morning; can’t believe I’ve never noticed that.
Some fanboy I’m turning out to be…
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Sightunseen on March 22, 2022, 10:54:50 AM
Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.

More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TastyBurrito on March 22, 2022, 11:11:34 AM
Steve Olson and Steve Olson are Highlanders and will eventually have to battle to the death as there can only be one.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 22, 2022, 12:05:49 PM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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One bad look after another for that shop. After the last time I got vibed out by employees and the only boards on the wall were FA, i decided to spend my money across town..

Yeah it's pretty cringeworthy watching the arrested development 40 year old dude being best buds with a bunch of teenagers who adore him because he lets them party at the shop. I think I went twice since they moved to the location, but since radio opened there's zero reason to go there. Better board wall, more focus on the cooler, smaller brands, and most of all better people and vibe.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 22, 2022, 12:12:41 PM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???

Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Sightunseen on March 22, 2022, 12:37:18 PM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
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Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp

Not my scene, but this is the 2nd time today you’ve come on here to shit talk a Skateshop.  That’s cool though, go off  ::)

Also, you’re proudly repping that Username past the age of 17? Kinda whack you think THATS cool.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 22, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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Also obscure

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Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: sn00p on March 22, 2022, 03:18:21 PM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
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Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp

I’ll back you on this. OneUp was a great shop ten years ago. Truly tragic what it’s become in recent years.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Plan9Customs on March 22, 2022, 05:02:24 PM
Dark? Probably not. Obscure? Maybe.
Powell Peralta ripped of their logo from a shitty Willian Shatner flick called ‘The Devils Rain’.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSNWMy2h/IMG-7966.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DmFMRG4)
Film came out in 75 PP 78.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: indysk8r on March 22, 2022, 05:51:17 PM
gator killed his girlfriend

which was also christian hosois ex
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Johnd on March 22, 2022, 06:23:59 PM
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gator killed his girlfriend
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which was also christian hosois ex
Gator murdered his ex girlfriend’s friend.
Banzai bowl in San Clemente has several gator skateboards hanging on the walls. I don’t think they realized who he was when they decorated their store.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on March 22, 2022, 07:26:11 PM
This seems to be in poor taste, but I dunno…
(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224814120660_/Dead-End-Skateboard-Deck-Lady-Killer-Mark-Gator.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Ok on March 22, 2022, 09:06:58 PM
Ron Allen is, despite his positive public demeanor, an very unhappy person.

Definitely heard this. Definitely never met him. Commenting because it does seem so disconnected to his displayed image.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Trashcon on March 22, 2022, 10:14:52 PM
I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

Another one was about Joey Poiriez. His grandma lived in my area and we'd see him at our local park from time to time. I was just about a year or two younger than him but had heard about his drug usage. I was pretty naive back then and didn't put two and two together. Some years later, word got around that he had died, except he hadn't. Then some years passed and I heard the same news, except this time he really did overdose.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 22, 2022, 11:06:12 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.


Wow.  Did not realize she was from my hometown mission viejo

( also, recently learned the same place Richard Ramirez made the mistake that got him caught very close to my day of birth.   South OC isn’t so boring after all)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 23, 2022, 02:52:27 AM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
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Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp
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Not my scene, but this is the 2nd time today you’ve come on here to shit talk a Skateshop.  That’s cool though, go off  ::)

Also, you’re proudly repping that Username past the age of 17? Kinda whack you think THATS cool.

Its almost like it's a forum and I'm replying to someone who replied to me or something.  I'm not talking shit, I'm speaking the truth... Or wait let me put it in a way you'll understand.. "I b spittin 100 dank game dawg" (and then do something stupid with your hands).

Sorry everyone else can see your favorite shop is fucking up dude, you can keep flailing your arms and trying to misdirect that away onto things like my username (it's from a WKUK sketch) or you can step back and look at it without the emotional bias. They've been disruptive to non-skaters for a long time and now they've moved it off Carson St and into a residential neighborhood. There is no defending this shit.

I'm not saying everyone who hangs out or works there sucks. I've had some good long talks with kids who work there and for the most part they're pretty chill (if Drew and his girl are still around they're rad). I'm also not saying everything they do is bad. What I am saying is they're absolutely fostering a culture, intentionally or not, where things like this happen and will continue to happen. It's really kind of sad to see something that should be used to keep kids out of trouble introducing them to it.
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Post by: Sightunseen on March 23, 2022, 10:18:41 AM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
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Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp
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Not my scene, but this is the 2nd time today you’ve come on here to shit talk a Skateshop.  That’s cool though, go off  ::)

Also, you’re proudly repping that Username past the age of 17? Kinda whack you think THATS cool.
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Its almost like it's a forum and I'm replying to someone who replied to me or something.  I'm not talking shit, I'm speaking the truth... Or wait let me put it in a way you'll understand.. "I b spittin 100 dank game dawg" (and then do something stupid with your hands).

Sorry everyone else can see your favorite shop is fucking up dude, you can keep flailing your arms and trying to misdirect that away onto things like my username (it's from a WKUK sketch) or you can step back and look at it without the emotional bias. They've been disruptive to non-skaters for a long time and now they've moved it off Carson St and into a residential neighborhood. There is no defending this shit.

I'm not saying everyone who hangs out or works there sucks. I've had some good long talks with kids who work there and for the most part they're pretty chill (if Drew and his girl are still around they're rad). I'm also not saying everything they do is bad. What I am saying is they're absolutely fostering a culture, intentionally or not, where things like this happen and will continue to happen. It's really kind of sad to see something that should be used to keep kids out of trouble introducing them to it.

Ok, so I guess you missed the part about me saying that’s not my local shop. But also now I’m going to point out how wildly inappropriate and ignorant your reply is by the way you thought you could “relate” to me through your “ “ dialect.

Get off your high horse, ditch that dumbass username, and then hit my DMs if you wanna chat about this more  :-*
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: augustmoon on March 23, 2022, 10:47:51 AM
I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.


I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this. 
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: goldenbullcow on March 23, 2022, 11:38:59 AM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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Also obscure
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That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.
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Wow.  Did not realize she was from my hometown mission viejo

( also, recently learned the same place Richard Ramirez made the mistake that got him caught very close to my day of birth.   South OC isn’t so boring after all)

yikes that story is awful
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on March 23, 2022, 12:52:07 PM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
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Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp
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Not my scene, but this is the 2nd time today you’ve come on here to shit talk a Skateshop.  That’s cool though, go off  ::)

Also, you’re proudly repping that Username past the age of 17? Kinda whack you think THATS cool.
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Its almost like it's a forum and I'm replying to someone who replied to me or something.  I'm not talking shit, I'm speaking the truth... Or wait let me put it in a way you'll understand.. "I b spittin 100 dank game dawg" (and then do something stupid with your hands).

you’re a fucking idiot and i don’t think it’s because you’re giving the dispensary 3/4’s of ur paycheck (although that’s def not helping)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Trashcon on March 23, 2022, 03:33:54 PM
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I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

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I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this.

Damn, what a bummer. They wouldn't dare say it to his face. I'm glad BA is out and living his life the way he wants to.
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Post by: Hefe43 on March 23, 2022, 03:45:38 PM
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I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

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I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this.
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Damn, what a bummer. They wouldn't dare say it to his face. I'm glad BA is out and living his life the way he wants to.

Can BA throw hands? He’s a big ass dude I could see him fucking someone up

I’m sure he’s too happy to give a fuck what anyone thinks regardless
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Post by: manysnakes on March 23, 2022, 04:45:04 PM
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I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

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I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this.
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Damn, what a bummer. They wouldn't dare say it to his face. I'm glad BA is out and living his life the way he wants to.
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Can BA throw hands? He’s a big ass dude I could see him fucking someone up

I’m sure he’s too happy to give a fuck what anyone thinks regardless

I have no doubt that few in the skate industry would step to BA, but I also seriously doubt that big, gay, happy, 45 year old BA with his lucrative Nike contract is the least bit concerned what some drunk washouts said about him in 2006.
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Post by: TastyBurrito on March 23, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
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I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

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I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this.
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Damn, what a bummer. They wouldn't dare say it to his face. I'm glad BA is out and living his life the way he wants to.
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Can BA throw hands? He’s a big ass dude I could see him fucking someone up

I’m sure he’s too happy to give a fuck what anyone thinks regardless

Hands? BA would use his fists on those dudes!

Then again, I don't see him fighting unless it's in defense. I don't see him provoking a fight.

Especially now. He looks like he's in a good place mentally.
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Post by: Frank and Fred on March 23, 2022, 08:35:47 PM
Your UPS driver is an ex-pro

and

Lee Ralph is my mum

And

Bobby Puelo will chime in on this thread when it hits page 34.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cilantro on March 23, 2022, 10:21:37 PM
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I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

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I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this.
Andy anderson?!
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I have some friends in the industry who have shared some stuff, not really obscure or dark but one comes to mind. Years before he came out, I knew BA was gay. Well, they told me about it but I didn't believe them 100%. I was a little shocked  but equally sad, that if it was true, he had to live his life in secret. There's about two more that I was told about, that I think they will come out in due time. I just hope that these two other individuals aren't hurting and come out when they are ready.

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I was in an apartment in Barcelona in like 2005 around some real “Slap Favorite” pros and they were talking mad Shit about Bryan.  Said some real disgusting, embarrassing Shit.  You probably know who you are if you’re reading this.
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Damn, what a bummer. They wouldn't dare say it to his face. I'm glad BA is out and living his life the way he wants to.
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Can BA throw hands? He’s a big ass dude I could see him fucking someone up

I’m sure he’s too happy to give a fuck what anyone thinks regardless
Just from the way he looks doing that blunt in hubba I think no one would even step up to him lol
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Post by: Sativa Lung on March 25, 2022, 02:31:56 AM
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Someone got shot and killed outside OneUp Skate Shop over the weekend. There was some sort of fight outside the shop and a 29 year old was shot in the chest. They had some sort of fingerboarder meetup earlier in the night, but usually that kind of stuff clears out by 1030 which is when this happened. The shop was closed but there's a bunch of kids that hang out there and skate the 3 ramps and a box that comprises their skate park afterwards.

Cops are investigating, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one of the shop rats is involved. There's a bunch of wannabe thug trap dj gun flashing types that hang out there and the owner seems to think its just the coolest thing ever.
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More of an opinion then a fact but uhhh ok not sure why you’re here to slander a core shop that does events for the community?  ???
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Yeah our scene would really be dying without fingerboard night. And I'm sure the fight and homicide on a fairly quiet residential street is going to do wonders for our community. It's not slander if it's true bud. It's fine if you hang out there, I probably would have too when I was 17. But I'm old enough now to not really give a shit about being cool and I'm not going to not call them out for this bullshit.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2022/03/20/shooting-stabbings-in-pittsburgh-overnight/%3famp
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Not my scene, but this is the 2nd time today you’ve come on here to shit talk a Skateshop.  That’s cool though, go off  ::)

Also, you’re proudly repping that Username past the age of 17? Kinda whack you think THATS cool.
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Its almost like it's a forum and I'm replying to someone who replied to me or something.  I'm not talking shit, I'm speaking the truth... Or wait let me put it in a way you'll understand.. "I b spittin 100 dank game dawg" (and then do something stupid with your hands).
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you’re a fucking idiot and i don’t think it’s because you’re giving the dispensary 3/4’s of ur paycheck (although that’s def not helping)

Feel free to tell me why you think I'm an idiot for not thinking gun-toting fingerboarders partying with teenagers in a shitty garage on a residential street is somehow helping skateboarding in any way. Or is it just that you're offended that I'm not sugar coating it?


Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on March 25, 2022, 05:49:26 AM
i thought the blaccent shit was a bad touch but yinzers will be yinzers
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: PuffinMuffin on March 25, 2022, 07:20:27 AM
Hauscome can't yinz jest git along?  :'(
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Post by: cky enthusiast on March 25, 2022, 07:31:20 AM
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Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: milk.razor on March 25, 2022, 07:39:15 AM
More bizarre is the lack of mention about the shooting on OneUp ig when that dude made 100 posts last week explaining why he didnt comment a slur on Radio’s post..
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Magnolia on March 25, 2022, 07:41:49 AM
More bizarre is the lack of mention about the shooting on OneUp ig when that dude made 100 posts last week explaining why he didnt comment a slur on Radio’s post..
And then immediately hid any mention of it again too. Back when we first went into lockdowns in 2020 they were posting transphobic shit about PA's health secretary. When I told them that that was incredibly shitty they basically said "it's cool, our filmer is gay!" I'd fucking shop at zumiez before going back to OneUp
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Post by: PuffinMuffin on March 25, 2022, 07:55:40 AM
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More bizarre is the lack of mention about the shooting on OneUp ig when that dude made 100 posts last week explaining why he didnt comment a slur on Radio’s post..
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And then immediately hid any mention of it again too. Back when we first went into lockdowns in 2020 they were posting transphobic shit about PA's health secretary. When I told them that that was incredibly shitty they basically said "it's cool, our filmer is gay!" I'd fucking shop at zumiez before going back to OneUp

Yikes, thanks for the heads up. I have family in Pittsburgh, I used to hit up OneUp to buy some Fuck Yinz boards when I'm down there. Not no more, they can go fuck themselves.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: milk.razor on March 25, 2022, 08:11:22 AM
The general consensus is just shop at Radio. Good people far as i can tell
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Magnolia on March 25, 2022, 08:17:43 AM
The general consensus is just shop at Radio. Good people far as i can tell
100%, and I also recommend Switch and Signal (park/shop). It's super chill and I go to their weekly women & trans session whenever possible
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lou Strux on March 25, 2022, 08:24:13 AM
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I know this is the wrong thread, but look at that logo: it’s practically begging to get peen’d up.
Anybody wanna give it a shot?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on March 25, 2022, 08:54:53 AM
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Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on March 25, 2022, 02:19:55 PM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.
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Anyone know which Rosenberg YouTube video. I have been facinated with the HH story and the fact it was openly spoken about and some dudes seemed proud of it

I was talking recently with someone who knows more about it than your average gossip on SLAP and he said there were actually two HH's. The one on the H-Street tour and then one later who hung around the EMB guys. So, perhaps the first one wasn't quite as young as 14 but she was underage and the whole thing is still really fucking awful. I don't remember which Rosenberg video it is, but there's one with the second HH kind of diving out of camera shot, and then there's another one with footage of another girl who was at Embarco pretty regularly getting harassed and walking around trying to figure out which asshole threw urine on her. Fun times!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on March 25, 2022, 02:21:50 PM
This seems to be in poor taste, but I dunno…
(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/224814120660_/Dead-End-Skateboard-Deck-Lady-Killer-Mark-Gator.jpg)

Please tell me that's shopped. That fucking sucks.
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Post by: augustmoon on March 25, 2022, 02:32:55 PM
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This seems to be in poor taste, but I dunno…
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Please tell me that's shopped. That fucking sucks.

Pretty sure it’s real, and didn’t that white rapper guy that was on here spearheading the Jason Jesse stuff have something to do with it?  His board company or something?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Discofightclub on April 06, 2022, 08:32:12 PM
Wanted to bump this thread, it's a good'n.
Not dark but relatively obscure, I read in an old James Hardy Thrasher interview (I think), that Real would make 8-ply decks for him as he went through regular boards so quickly.
Seems like a pain as far as production goes.
Can anyone confirm this? My memory is foggy
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Faxmachine on April 06, 2022, 08:37:49 PM
On average
3-5
Trees lose their lives
To be your skateboard
They dead
Rip
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Post by: BluffsideTank on April 06, 2022, 09:59:10 PM
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The whole Van Wastell situation was handled very poorly by all involved. Locking someone who is gripped with addiction into a room, with only one way out...I get there were all young, except maybe Jamie Hart, and probably had no experience in dealing with anything like that before, but this all could've played out very differently and Van could still be here today.
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What happened?
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Van Wastell was using (heroin, I think). His teammates took it away from him, I assume hoping to help. Later that night, he either fell from or jumped out of a window and died.

To keep this thread going, because it should: Van Wastell should be alive today, clean and sober, and talking about the good ole' days. I only rediscovered skating a few years ago and couldn't care less about Krooked, but as an LA native, something about this always stuck with me, and seeing his videos from back in the days made me realize what a great skater and dude the world lost in Berlin back then. RIP Van.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: matt_2993 on April 06, 2022, 10:13:33 PM
Wanted to bump this thread, it's a good'n.
Not dark but relatively obscure, I read in an old James Hardy Thrasher interview (I think), that Real would make 8-ply decks for him as he went through regular boards so quickly.
Seems like a pain as far as production goes.
Can anyone confirm this? My memory is foggy

Yeah I do remember this too
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: AxionCityStars on April 06, 2022, 11:50:31 PM
Steve Berra hooked up with underaged girls on Birdhouse tours.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Pipe Dreamer on April 07, 2022, 02:19:39 AM
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Wanted to bump this thread, it's a good'n.
Not dark but relatively obscure, I read in an old James Hardy Thrasher interview (I think), that Real would make 8-ply decks for him as he went through regular boards so quickly.
Seems like a pain as far as production goes.
Can anyone confirm this? My memory is foggy
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Yeah I do remember this too
I heard somewhere that Creature did the same for Stu Graham too.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mean salto on April 07, 2022, 02:42:11 AM
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Wanted to bump this thread, it's a good'n.
Not dark but relatively obscure, I read in an old James Hardy Thrasher interview (I think), that Real would make 8-ply decks for him as he went through regular boards so quickly.
Seems like a pain as far as production goes.
Can anyone confirm this? My memory is foggy
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Yeah I do remember this too
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I heard somewhere that Creature did the same for Stu Graham too.
I think also blind with Josh Kasper. Maybe they were for sale too
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: $$LESH on April 07, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Steve Berra hooked up with underaged girls on Birdhouse tours.

the girl he had a kid with in chicago was really young when she got pregnant. very fucked
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: fongool on April 07, 2022, 10:13:37 AM
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Steve Berra hooked up with underaged girls on Birdhouse tours.
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the girl he had a kid with in chicago was really young when she got pregnant. very fucked

she was 19, he was 38
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mandatory Reload on April 07, 2022, 10:26:56 AM
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Steve Berra hooked up with underaged girls on Birdhouse tours.
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the girl he had a kid with in chicago was really young when she got pregnant. very fucked
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she was 19, he was 38

wait fr? how have i never heard this before? that's so fucked
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: tom on April 07, 2022, 10:27:36 AM
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Wanted to bump this thread, it's a good'n.
Not dark but relatively obscure, I read in an old James Hardy Thrasher interview (I think), that Real would make 8-ply decks for him as he went through regular boards so quickly.
Seems like a pain as far as production goes.
Can anyone confirm this? My memory is foggy
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Yeah I do remember this too
Real Heavyweight decks. They came out around 2006-2007ish and only came in wider sizes for the time. 8.25 was the smallest. Not sure when they stopped making them though
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Arto!Arto!WakeUp! on April 07, 2022, 10:44:56 AM
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Steve Berra hooked up with underaged girls on Birdhouse tours.
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the girl he had a kid with in chicago was really young when she got pregnant. very fucked
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she was 19, he was 38
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wait fr? how have i never heard this before? that's so fucked

so out of character for him too
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: slappies on April 07, 2022, 10:50:49 AM
Cries when Tony Hawk smokes weed, but that teenage pussy is a-ok!
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Magnolia on April 07, 2022, 10:51:53 AM
Cries when Tony Hawk smokes weed, but that teenage pussy is a-ok!
Borra of scientology, on evangelicalism?
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: KING__LIGMA on April 07, 2022, 11:01:10 AM
andrew langi stole nick merlino's laptop and denied it, but then returned it when confronted again.

ps ps ps ps kitty!

Langi is a local in my area, pretty shocking cause he seems like a good dude from when I have talked to him.
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Post by: Mandatory Reload on April 07, 2022, 12:08:45 PM
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Steve Berra hooked up with underaged girls on Birdhouse tours.
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the girl he had a kid with in chicago was really young when she got pregnant. very fucked
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she was 19, he was 38
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wait fr? how have i never heard this before? that's so fucked
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so out of character for him too

lol that was my point, i just would figure with how much of a shitlord he is and how hated he is in the skateboarding community it would be something that would come up more frequently and i would've heard about it
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lowcalcium on April 07, 2022, 12:34:38 PM
Dane Barker of Quasi stole a Foundation board from the Tum Yeto dudes on a recent tour. And then proceeded to actively taunt them with it!

He's very unhinged and unbalanced and likes fast music...very tragic

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Post by: frontfootimpossible on April 07, 2022, 12:41:35 PM
Brian de la torre initiated the fight between GX and the security guard that wound up with brain damage/skull broken.

Chico brenes was also on the scene, not sure if he participated.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: fs1/2cab on April 07, 2022, 01:54:25 PM
Dane Barker of Quasi stole a Foundation board from the Tum Yeto dudes on a recent tour. And then proceeded to actively taunt them with it!

He's very unhinged and unbalanced and likes fast music...very tragic

Dane Barker is fucking rad.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Plan9Customs on April 07, 2022, 06:53:33 PM
Since there was talk of 8 ply special pressings, Ricky Winsor get his 6 ply so they’re not as stiff(almost 60y.o. knees and a lifetime of skating).
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: BALARGUE on April 08, 2022, 02:14:02 AM
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Wanted to bump this thread, it's a good'n.
Not dark but relatively obscure, I read in an old James Hardy Thrasher interview (I think), that Real would make 8-ply decks for him as he went through regular boards so quickly.
Seems like a pain as far as production goes.
Can anyone confirm this? My memory is foggy
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Real Heavyweight decks. They came out around 2006-2007ish and only came in wider sizes for the time. 8.25 was the smallest. Not sure when they stopped making them though

sidenote: they are not 8-ply decks

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Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: brucewillis on April 08, 2022, 05:33:06 AM
Bobby dekeyzer was bullied of DC Bc of his raging Harry Potter fandom.
Is that really true? I laughed so hard.
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Post by: somefucker on April 08, 2022, 06:27:52 AM
Langi is a local in my area, pretty shocking cause he seems like a good dude from when I have talked to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxWWmWwNE9Y

2:06

pussy move
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Post by: Idk on April 08, 2022, 06:37:02 AM
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Is that really true? I laughed so hard.
This is SLAP canon. And more like he was butt hurt they were making fun of HP
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Post by: Magnolia on April 08, 2022, 08:21:16 AM
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Is that really true? I laughed so hard.
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This is SLAP canon. And more like he was butt hurt they were making fun of HP
I would kill to hear Wes clown on harry potter
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on April 08, 2022, 08:43:00 AM
Also worth mentioning that the guy who is under investigation by the FAA for crashing his own plane late 2021 for YT views (Trevor Jacob) has a brother Josh Swindell. Some of you may remember Josh riding for Vans, Think, Planet Earth and Venture in the early-mids 90s. He def had some demons he was battling, he beat 31 y/o Keith Ogden to death outside a bar in Azusa, CA. He was released in 2012.
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Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on April 08, 2022, 12:39:24 PM
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Is that really true? I laughed so hard.

They brought this up to him on the bunt. Not true sadly (he says) but hilarious. The rumour was he quit because they made fun of his love for Harry Potter so much he cried. I still chuckle to myself at when someone on here called him Boddy DeCryzer
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Post by: manysnakes on April 08, 2022, 01:29:21 PM
Also worth mentioning that the guy who is under investigation by the FAA for crashing his own plane late 2021 for YT views (Trevor Jacob) has a brother Josh Swindell. Some of you may remember Josh riding for Vans, Think, Planet Earth and Venture in the early-mids 90s. He def had some demons he was battling, he beat 31 y/o Keith Ogden to death outside a bar in Azusa, CA. He was released in 2012.

This is old news, but this is the gay bashing murder where Danny Way was, at the very least, present.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheDraught on April 08, 2022, 02:13:10 PM
On a Duffs Shoes trip to Lanai (where Rocco owns or owned a house) Jeremy Klein and Heath were bullying Willy Santons.

Before Willy's duffle bag was checked in for the flight back, they both took a shit in it.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 08, 2022, 02:32:12 PM
On a Duffs Shoes trip to Lanai (where Rocco owns or owned a house) Jeremy Klein and Heath were bullying Willy Santons.

Before Willy's duffle bag was checked in for the flight back, they both took a shit in it.

More or less everything I’ve ever heard about either of these guys makes them both seem like borderline violent sociopaths.
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Post by: Mike Oxwelling on April 08, 2022, 03:03:43 PM
This seems to be in poor taste, but I dunno…
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I feel like I saw some where that the white rapper claimed he gave all the proceeds of this board to a battered women's shelter or something along giving charity to a women's organization of some type.   But when I read that I said to myself 'that it's a weird way to raise money for women".   
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: dakotalofton on April 12, 2022, 10:10:33 AM
The Randy Rush story is very dark

That story gets darker and darker the more you read into it RIP fern RIP rush
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Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on April 12, 2022, 10:15:35 AM
Greg Lutzka
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Post by: milk.razor on April 12, 2022, 03:19:02 PM
wow the legend of DerekG. i was a wee lad on skateperception when this all went down but i never heard about the conspiracy theory.. and honestly i’m not buying it. derek was big into robotripping, probably really paranoid, and while i was aware he had a fucked family situation i cant imagine what his parents motivation would be for murdering their own son.. that’s some pretty fried shit to think about a tragedy imo.
and didnt his family start a non profit or build a skatepark or something in his name?
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Post by: Cthulhu! on April 12, 2022, 03:30:50 PM
I used to talk to Derek back then. We played a lot of Counter Strike. His home life was bizarre and he did have a knack for getting in even stranger situations. While his dad did work for some newspaper and did some stuff for the FBI academy if I remember correctly, I really can't buy that story. He hit his head when he was skating by himself.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: UselessAsshole on April 12, 2022, 03:35:49 PM
I used to talk to Derek back then. We played a lot of Counter Strike. His home life was bizarre and he did have a knack for getting in even stranger situations. While his dad did work for some newspaper and did some stuff for the FBI academy if I remember correctly, I really can't buy that story. He hit his head when he was skating by himself.

wow the legend of DerekG. i was a wee lad on skateperception when this all went down but i never heard about the conspiracy theory.. and honestly i’m not buying it. derek was big into robotripping, probably really paranoid, and while i was aware he had a fucked family situation i cant imagine what his parents motivation would be for murdering their own son.. that’s some pretty fried shit to think about a tragedy imo.
and didnt his family start a non profit or build a skatepark or something in his name?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be disrespectful. Was a wild story that popped into my head after reading through this thread. I'll take the post down.
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.


Was it this?
https://youtu.be/INturz459TM
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mike Oxwelling on April 19, 2022, 10:28:48 AM
The hatred for scooters is in fact a self loathing issue

(https://i.ibb.co/kQ35tK0/ban-this-video-cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: everythingisgreat on April 19, 2022, 10:38:41 AM
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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Also obscure
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That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.
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Was it this?
https://youtu.be/INturz459TM

In the comments on the YouTube video, there is this:

friscoskid
11 years ago
The girl getting clowned is Bammer Beth, not Hurricane Helen. And the mongo pushing guy is NOT Rick.


Then again, it is a random person commenting on YouTube...
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on April 19, 2022, 10:59:09 AM
Mcrank is in the blue adidas shirt for like 1/2 a second, you have to pause the screen to actually see him. I wouldn’t even have labeled him hahaha.
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So, Elissa didn't actually do that condom thing. But that won't stop everyone from endlessly repeating that rumor. Similar to the Danny Way thing.
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Are you referring to the D. Way condom story?

All I will say is that the Helens and Kates of the skate world, that have been joked about as funny anecdotes of youthful indiscretion, would be considered trafficking of a minors from the present day perspective.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10329.0)
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That thread did not age well with all the woman shaming. Yikes lol
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Woman shaming? They were sexually abusing a teenage runaway with glee.

Fucking dark
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Also obscure
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That situation is so depressing, and went on way too long. I remember walking into my local shop and hearing one of the EMB guys talking about her and how she had the clap. He said she was 16, and it was a couple years after the H-Street tour that Carroll talks about, so she was maybe 14 or so at that time. There's a brief shot of her in some of the Jake Rosenberg footage he uploaded to youtube years ago. She's just a kid. I don't think it was just scumbags and EMB kids who took a roll in the hay with her, either. Huf mentions her in the FTC book, but doesn't divulge.
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Was it this?
https://youtu.be/INturz459TM
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In the comments on the YouTube video, there is this:

friscoskid
11 years ago
The girl getting clowned is Bammer Beth, not Hurricane Helen. And the mongo pushing guy is NOT Rick.


Then again, it is a random person commenting on YouTube...

I don't know what that girl's name is but the Youtube commenter is right about that not being HH. I since spoke with someone from back then and he said there were two HH's. There is another Rosenberg video of the second one kind of diving out of the shot.
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Post by: Henchman on April 19, 2022, 02:01:28 PM
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On a Duffs Shoes trip to Lanai (where Rocco owns or owned a house) Jeremy Klein and Heath were bullying Willy Santons.

Before Willy's duffle bag was checked in for the flight back, they both took a shit in it.
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More or less everything I’ve ever heard about either of these guys makes them both seem like borderline violent sociopaths.

Any more info on Jeremy Wray being a sociopath? He’s always been one of my favorites so this is a bit disappointing  :'(
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: WPG on April 19, 2022, 02:31:15 PM
https://youtu.be/ZtAbVebEi5Y


5:15 is HH according to some less than polite YouTube comments
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Chavo on April 19, 2022, 08:22:43 PM
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On a Duffs Shoes trip to Lanai (where Rocco owns or owned a house) Jeremy Klein and Heath were bullying Willy Santons.

Before Willy's duffle bag was checked in for the flight back, they both took a shit in it.
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More or less everything I’ve ever heard about either of these guys makes them both seem like borderline violent sociopaths.
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Any more info on Jeremy Wray being a sociopath? He’s always been one of my favorites so this is a bit disappointing  :'(

Jeremy Wray is one of the nicest pros I've ever met. Good thing I didn't get in the car with him.
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Post by: manysnakes on April 19, 2022, 08:30:32 PM
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On a Duffs Shoes trip to Lanai (where Rocco owns or owned a house) Jeremy Klein and Heath were bullying Willy Santons.

Before Willy's duffle bag was checked in for the flight back, they both took a shit in it.
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More or less everything I’ve ever heard about either of these guys makes them both seem like borderline violent sociopaths.
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Any more info on Jeremy Wray being a sociopath? He’s always been one of my favorites so this is a bit disappointing  :'(

No one said anything about Jeremy Wray.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Henchman on April 19, 2022, 11:30:30 PM
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On a Duffs Shoes trip to Lanai (where Rocco owns or owned a house) Jeremy Klein and Heath were bullying Willy Santons.

Before Willy's duffle bag was checked in for the flight back, they both took a shit in it.
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More or less everything I’ve ever heard about either of these guys makes them both seem like borderline violent sociopaths.
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Any more info on Jeremy Wray being a sociopath? He’s always been one of my favorites so this is a bit disappointing  :'(
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No one said anything about Jeremy Wray.

I am of the stupid and tired variety. Thanks.

Anyways- honest thoughts on Ed Templeton and his art/that one interview he did? I suppose it’s not really obscure, but nevertheless this interview slipped by.

http://www.doublenegative.org/16/writing/templeton/templeton.html
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Brguy on April 20, 2022, 09:40:09 AM
Dane Barker of Quasi stole a Foundation board from the Tum Yeto dudes on a recent tour. And then proceeded to actively taunt them with it!

He's very unhinged and unbalanced and likes fast music...very tragic
Could be just some dumb teasing.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jakeumms on April 21, 2022, 06:07:58 PM
Not exactly skate related but relevant. Grandma's Boy is kinda like Kids in the QA World.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheLurper on April 21, 2022, 10:08:30 PM
About Neil Hendrix:

https://deadspin.com/skateboarder-says-former-usa-skateboarding-executive-ab-1829972039/amp

https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/25295553/district-attorney-drops-case-usa-skateboarding-neal-hendrix?platform=amp

I met a woman who worked in the industry a few months ago while traveling around California. I'm going to see what stories I can repost without doxxing her, but she said overall the Neil is a creep and everyone around her fucking knew he was scummy.

Fuck Neil Hendrix.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TheDraught on April 21, 2022, 10:46:20 PM
This very recent Crail Couch (especially the end) goes well with that Helen Hurricane story;


https://youtu.be/s5dzL2JXzYg
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Trashcon on April 21, 2022, 10:59:53 PM
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About Neil Hendrix:

https://deadspin.com/skateboarder-says-former-usa-skateboarding-executive-ab-1829972039/amp

https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/25295553/district-attorney-drops-case-usa-skateboarding-neal-hendrix?platform=amp
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I met a woman who worked in the industry a few months ago while traveling around California. I'm going to see what stories I can repost without doxxing her, but she said overall the Neil is a creep and everyone around her fucking knew he was scummy.

Fuck Neil Hendrix.

I'll leave this right here.

http://skatingfashionista.com/2016/01/vans-girls-combi-pool-classic-2016/ (http://skatingfashionista.com/2016/01/vans-girls-combi-pool-classic-2016/)
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: doublesteveburger on April 22, 2022, 07:21:08 AM
that time they kept kanten from getting on plan b back in the day and danny way refilmed all his bangers
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on April 22, 2022, 07:24:11 AM
anyone remember which video has the recounting of oyola getting spots demolished after he filmed tricks on them?

so nobody else could one up him lol
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: big_kev_215 on April 22, 2022, 07:49:13 AM
anyone remember which video has the recounting of oyola getting spots demolished after he filmed tricks on them?

so nobody else could one up him lol

In his Epicly Later’d one of the filmers or photographers talks about constructing, demolishing, reconstructing, and re-demolishing a concrete kicker onto two different sides of a set of steps for Ricky to get a couple clips grinding them.  I guess so no one else would skate it after.  Ricky also talks about how half of his “trick” is finding the actual spot so essentially he doesn’t like when other people use his spots (I’m paraphrasing - I forget exactly how he describes it).  Not sure if that’s the video you’re thinking of…


I also remember in some Redbull east coast contest DVD where teams competed skating Boston, New York, and Philly they would like name the spots as they were shown (a few spots from each city got skated) and Ricky had taken them to that steep bank sculpture thing in Dickinson Square park as one of the three Philly spots.  For that one they described it as Ricky’s top secret spot or something and wouldn’t name it as if anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of South Philly wouldn’t recognize something right off of Moyamensing Ave, in a large park, a stone’s throw from 95.  Always thought that was a little corny haha.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: somefucker on April 22, 2022, 07:53:36 AM
In his Epicly Later’d one of the filmers or photographers talks about constructing, demolishing, reconstructing, and re-demolishing a concrete kicker onto two different sides of a set of steps for Ricky to get a couple clips grinding them.  I guess so no one else would skate it after.  Ricky also talks about how half of his “trick” is finding the actual spot so essentially he doesn’t like when other people use his spots (I’m paraphrasing - I forget exactly how he describes it).  Not sure if that’s the video you’re thinking of…


I also remember in some Redbull east coast contest DVD where teams competed skating Boston, New York, and Philly they would like name the spots as they were shown (a few spots from each city got skated) and Ricky had taken them to that steep bank sculpture thing in Dickinson Square park as one of the three Philly spots.  For that one they described it as Ricky’s top secret spot or something and wouldn’t name it as if anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of South Philly wouldn’t recognize something right off of Moyamensing Ave, in a large park, a stone’s throw from 95.  Always thought that was a little corny haha.

thats the one!

sounds like the guy who will post clips of a spot and then tell you 'its not my spot to give out'
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: ok boomer on April 22, 2022, 09:33:35 AM
in skateboarding, there are two Steve Olson's.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: manysnakes on April 22, 2022, 09:55:14 AM
in skateboarding, there are two Steve Olson's.

And two Tom Knox
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Post by: Mean salto on April 22, 2022, 10:00:24 AM
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in skateboarding, there are two Steve Olson's.
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And two Tom Knox
And at least 4 Tony da silvas
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Hedgehog In Da Fog on April 22, 2022, 10:08:17 AM
Not exactly skate related but relevant. Grandma's Boy is kinda like Kids in the QA World.

QA? Quality Assurance?
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on April 22, 2022, 10:09:19 AM
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in skateboarding, there are two Steve Olson's.
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And two Tom Knox
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And at least 4 Tony da silvas
And at least six, maybe twelve Dustin Henrys
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Gab on April 22, 2022, 10:11:06 AM
And only one Dlamini Dlamini
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: TelethonJohn on April 22, 2022, 10:50:49 AM
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And two Tom Knox
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And at least six, maybe twelve Dustin Henrys

Yeah, but there are like 10 different Ethan Fowlers. Punk rock runaway Ethan, beatnik Ethan, sensitive literary goth Ethan, garage rock Ethan, Southern rock Ethan, etc.
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Post by: Yu Dum on April 22, 2022, 11:24:50 AM
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in skateboarding, there are two Steve Olson's.
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And two Tom Knox
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And at least 4 Tony da silvas
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And at least six, maybe twelve Dustin Henrys
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Yeah, but there are like 10 different Ethan Fowlers. Punk rock runaway Ethan, beatnik Ethan, sensitive literary goth Ethan, garage rock Ethan, Southern rock Ethan, etc.
Can't forget ol racist ass Ethan.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: milk.razor on April 22, 2022, 07:25:24 PM
yeah fuck ethan. i saw a post that was jerry fowler and the first comment was “the only fowler”
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: jakeumms on April 23, 2022, 11:10:48 PM
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Not exactly skate related but relevant. Grandma's Boy is kinda like Kids in the QA World.
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QA? Quality Assurance?
Forgot there was another more recently famous QA running around. Yeah man testers.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Mike Oxwelling on April 28, 2022, 10:18:21 AM
Slap's favorite Borra was on one of the most coveted beloved skateboarding companies of all time.  101.   

But this is really being stated to see if anyone recalls what got him kicked off?  And all the Berra talk had me thinking about this arguably dark fact.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: slappies on April 28, 2022, 10:19:55 AM
Slap's favorite Borra was on one of the most coveted beloved skateboarding companies of all time.  101.   

But this is really being stated to see if anyone recalls what got him kicked off?  And all the Berra talk had me thinking about this arguably dark fact.

He called Natas the N word.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: slappies on April 28, 2022, 10:20:11 AM
jk
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Post by: Mike Oxwelling on April 28, 2022, 10:24:48 AM
jk

But it being Jovontae rings a bell.   I mean its not hard to see how he got kicked off but was geniunely curious as I can't remember and maybe never really knew?   I did hear ALOT of people in the 90s that knew him call him a "cry baby".

I would guess Steve would really not like a certain transworld interview of him dug up from the 90s.    Its not a good look.
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Post by: funeral_tuxedo on April 28, 2022, 10:42:20 AM
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But it being Jovontae rings a bell.   I mean its not hard to see how he got kicked off but was geniunely curious as I can't remember and maybe never really knew?   I did hear ALOT of people in the 90s that knew him call him a "cry baby".

I would guess Steve would really not like a certain transworld interview of him dug up from the 90s.    Its not a good look.

If I remember correctly Berra called Jovante "cool black guy" (I'm not sure of the context but it may have been in response to being called something like lame white guy) and Jovante smacked the shit out Berra. I don't know if that's why he got axed from 101 but I'm pretty sure it didn't help matters.
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: skate_or_dingus on April 28, 2022, 10:46:06 AM
 Moses Itkonen ran (and bragged about running) a gay conversion "therapy" camp and should be beaten on sight. Worst fucking dude.

Edit: "therapy" in quotations 'cause it ain't.
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Post by: Weededed on April 28, 2022, 12:41:16 PM
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But it being Jovontae rings a bell.   I mean its not hard to see how he got kicked off but was geniunely curious as I can't remember and maybe never really knew?   I did hear ALOT of people in the 90s that knew him call him a "cry baby".

I would guess Steve would really not like a certain transworld interview of him dug up from the 90s.    Its not a good look.
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If I remember correctly Berra called Jovante "cool black guy" (I'm not sure of the context but it may have been in response to being called something like lame white guy) and Jovante smacked the shit out Berra. I don't know if that's why he got axed from 101 but I'm pretty sure it didn't help matters.

From Jovontaes Chromeball interview:

"So what did lead up to that altercation with Berra?

Basically he was just getting on my nerves that whole tour and by the time we got to Florida, tension was high. Honestly, like I said, nobody was getting along on that tour. It could’ve been any one of us getting into a fight at that point.

But I was laying on the bed and I could hear something going down but I wasn’t in the conversation. Berra comes and sits down beside me and I ended up saying something and he responds with, “Cool, black guy.”

In fairness, Kareem did say you called him a “white asshole”.

(laughs) Well, I was over it.

But I hopped to the side of my bed, put on my shoes, stood up and punched him. The next morning, he was gone. I guess he caught the first flight out."

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2013/11/postscript-jovontae-turner.html?m=1

Also:

"One story I’ve always heard about but have never heard your side of the story on was how things went down at Embarcadero with a young Ricky Oyola.

(laughs) I knew you were gonna bring this up. I always get asked about that and Steve Berra.

But the Ricky Oyola thing was crazy. He was taking photos down at Embarcadero one day while I was out skating. I didn’t even know who he was at the time. Nothing. But I remember he was trying to do the Gonz when, all of a sudden, I thought I heard somebody yell out the word, “Niggers!”

I thought I was tripping. I honestly didn’t even really pay any attention to it at first because there was no way that’s what was being said. But then I watched him try the Gonz again and when he bailed, I actually saw him screaming out the word, “Nigger!”

I was like, “What the fuck!?!”

But I still couldn’t believe it… and then he did it again!

That’s when I called him out. I walked him over to the other side of Embarcadero to talk and I ended up swinging on him. I swung my board straight at his head but he ducked. However, I just happened to be with one of my boys who had a pitbull with him… Ricky basically got chased out of Embarcadero. That was it.

I ended up seeing him a few years later at the Tampa Contest but he didn’t want to do anything. I heard he was talking shit but he didn’t want to do nothing when I saw him.

That shit’s crazy, though.

Yeah, Stevie was just telling me the other day another story about Ricky doing the same thing back at Love Park. Back when Stevie was a little kid and couldn’t do anything about it. He said that Ricky would do that all the time. Just punking people.

He couldn’t pull that shit in San Francisco. I think I was probably the last time he said that shit anywhere"
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But it being Jovontae rings a bell.   I mean its not hard to see how he got kicked off but was geniunely curious as I can't remember and maybe never really knew?   I did hear ALOT of people in the 90s that knew him call him a "cry baby".

I would guess Steve would really not like a certain transworld interview of him dug up from the 90s.    Its not a good look.
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If I remember correctly Berra called Jovante "cool black guy" (I'm not sure of the context but it may have been in response to being called something like lame white guy) and Jovante smacked the shit out Berra. I don't know if that's why he got axed from 101 but I'm pretty sure it didn't help matters.
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From Jovontaes Chromeball interview:

"So what did lead up to that altercation with Berra?

Basically he was just getting on my nerves that whole tour and by the time we got to Florida, tension was high. Honestly, like I said, nobody was getting along on that tour. It could’ve been any one of us getting into a fight at that point.

But I was laying on the bed and I could hear something going down but I wasn’t in the conversation. Berra comes and sits down beside me and I ended up saying something and he responds with, “Cool, black guy.”

In fairness, Kareem did say you called him a “white asshole”.

(laughs) Well, I was over it.

But I hopped to the side of my bed, put on my shoes, stood up and punched him. The next morning, he was gone. I guess he caught the first flight out."

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2013/11/postscript-jovontae-turner.html?m=1

Also:

"One story I’ve always heard about but have never heard your side of the story on was how things went down at Embarcadero with a young Ricky Oyola.

(laughs) I knew you were gonna bring this up. I always get asked about that and Steve Berra.

But the Ricky Oyola thing was crazy. He was taking photos down at Embarcadero one day while I was out skating. I didn’t even know who he was at the time. Nothing. But I remember he was trying to do the Gonz when, all of a sudden, I thought I heard somebody yell out the word, “Niggers!”

I thought I was tripping. I honestly didn’t even really pay any attention to it at first because there was no way that’s what was being said. But then I watched him try the Gonz again and when he bailed, I actually saw him screaming out the word, “Nigger!”

I was like, “What the fuck!?!”

But I still couldn’t believe it… and then he did it again!

That’s when I called him out. I walked him over to the other side of Embarcadero to talk and I ended up swinging on him. I swung my board straight at his head but he ducked. However, I just happened to be with one of my boys who had a pitbull with him… Ricky basically got chased out of Embarcadero. That was it.

I ended up seeing him a few years later at the Tampa Contest but he didn’t want to do anything. I heard he was talking shit but he didn’t want to do nothing when I saw him.

That shit’s crazy, though.

Yeah, Stevie was just telling me the other day another story about Ricky doing the same thing back at Love Park. Back when Stevie was a little kid and couldn’t do anything about it. He said that Ricky would do that all the time. Just punking people.

He couldn’t pull that shit in San Francisco. I think I was probably the last time he said that shit anywhere"

Not job shaming but I’m glad he’s a garbage man. A literal garbage man being a Garbage Man picking up garbage everyday.

That’s art. Like a photo of someone else taking a photo of another person art
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cky enthusiast on April 28, 2022, 07:33:51 PM
what do i do? oh i do excel spreadsheets for a real estate company
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Ignatius J Reilly on June 27, 2022, 08:20:30 PM
a lot of skaters in that southwest ditch scene (think dudes who skate into massive banks) will tighten their axle nuts down so their wheels don't roll as freely, so they can "manage" their speed while taking huge inclines
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: cucktard on June 27, 2022, 08:58:44 PM
Moses Itkonen ran (and bragged about running) a gay conversion "therapy" camp and should be beaten on sight. Worst fucking dude.

Edit: "therapy" in quotations 'cause it ain't.

That is this fuckery??

Can you link any of this?

I met Moses once skating in Van, and it was the singularly worst experience I’ve had with any sponsored skater ever. Complete Dildo Douchebaggins
Title: Re: Anyone know some dark obscure skateboarding facts?
Post by: Coping Grinder on June 28, 2022, 06:12:27 AM
a lot of skaters in that southwest ditch scene (think dudes who skate into massive banks) will tighten their axle nuts down so their wheels don't roll as freely, so they can "manage" their speed while taking huge inclines

Some truths are just better left unsaid...