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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Malflourishment on September 06, 2018, 08:45:53 AM
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Now that Consolidated is on the forefront of Nike boycotting will we see a rise in don’t do it gear?
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
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What up Leticia :-*
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Consolidated are like hipsters. They were hating on Nike before it was cool.
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
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What up Leticia :-*
Hi JB. 😊
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Consolidated are like hipsters. They were hating on Nike before it was cool.
Haha. 👍🏼👍🏼
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Andy Roy and Jason Jessee will be the reps and TnT as the team manager.
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Hi Cucktard. Our distributor in Japan just told me yesterday that he got em, so your shop should be seeing em soon! 😊
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
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Andy Roy and Jason Jessee will be the reps and TnT as the team manager.
Hahaha. Nah, we don’t have 100% scum who steal from their friends, working with us. Not the best “business model.” Haha. (Btw, I’m not including TNT in this comment because I am not involved in that, so I won’t speak on behalf of that.)
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
Thanks so much for the support! I hope you like em!
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Well, you know, even a broken clock is unfucked twice a day.
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Well, you know, even a broken clock is unfucked twice a day.
this
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
Is consolidated popular in Japan?
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Leticia Leticia Leticia
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Consolidated is fucking WACK
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It would be great to see them reclaim their glory, you know, being relevant in skateboarding and not telling people what to wear. The OG Cube days were fucking glorious. Get a solid team together and make consolidated great again, or not. Don't Do It is a cash cow.
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
Is consolidated popular in Japan?
I don’t know but I do remember looking at google analytics for them last year around the kotr stuff and that brought them the most web traffic in the us since 2009 . Majority of web traffic looked to be from South America.
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I could make a killing off all the don't do it stickers I have saved to the rightwingers.
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
Is consolidated popular in Japan?
Not really, but like other small brands, (Skull Skates, Driven, Street Plant) they have a cult following that’s pretty removed from US gossip and tastes.
I just wanted a canvas slip-on with more ollie protection, and one of the local shops carries Consolidated
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
Is consolidated popular in Japan?
So many random companies are popular in Japan. Pretty sure traffic was able to keep going because of accounts in japan alone.
A buddy of mine skates for hard times and is like a celebrity over there
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leticia comes on here talking all this shit... kinda funny how it took nike to put kaepernick and his message back in the spot light.
wheres consolidated's kaepernick campaign?
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leticia comes on here talking all this shit... kinda funny how it took nike to put kaepernick and his message back in the spot light.
wheres consolidated's kaepernick campaign?
Kaep,like Birdo, cannot grind Derby
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leticia comes on here talking all this shit... kinda funny how it took nike to put kaepernick and his message back in the spot light.
wheres consolidated's kaepernick campaign?
Fuck kaepernik
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I wonder if Consolidated could make more money if they took this opportunity to become the first alt-right Skate brand...
Probably not, but I mean they can’t be doing well
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyz7r8A59m/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lw8rjjg31jen
"Fuck Nike skateboarding"
Wearing Cons. ::) ;D
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Laticia, do you realise you are advertising Nike with that tee? Give it up already.
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I thought Consolidated and Nike did a collaboration. Maybe with Steve Nesser ? Or Nike did a colorway without their permission? Someone on here knows.
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I thought Consolidated and Nike did a collaboration. Maybe with Steve Nesser ? Or Nike did a colorway without their permission? Someone on here knows.
todd bratrud who used to do consolidated graphics, did a shoe colorway with Nike that had NOTHING to do with Consolidated. Todd said he used the San Jose Sharks colorway, but those colors are also the Consolidated cube colorways and Consolidated was bummed because it was perceived as a Consolidated dunk when it wasn't supposed to be. It was something like that, if I remeber correctly. Leticia? Care to elaborate?
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leticia looks like an brazilian transvestite and probably fuck birdo in the ass.
#dontdoit
she looks like a woman to me Edit did she have kids?, maybe shes got a nice ass too, what would you say then?
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I thought Consolidated and Nike did a collaboration. Maybe with Steve Nesser ? Or Nike did a colorway without their permission? Someone on here knows.
todd bratrud who used to do consolidated graphics, did a shoe colorway with Nike that had NOTHING to do with Consolidated. Todd said he used the San Jose Sharks colorway, but those colors are also the Consolidated cube colorways and Consolidated was bummed because it was perceived as a Consolidated dunk when it wasn't supposed to be. It was something like that, if I remeber correctly. Leticia? Care to elaborate?
Thanks my friend.
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Consolidated had this graphic back in the day that said "Oh, the humanatee." It had pictures of manatees under the sea wearing shorts and it cracked me up. I used to draw it in my high school notebooks. Actually, I still doodle it when I draw with my niece. I wonder if Scott Bourne still skates.
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I ordered a pair of their slip-ons a while ago, I’ll be on the forefront of being late
I'm guess you haven't gotten them either... Being core also means you can have shit customer service and poor quality product because you don't have the budget for quality factories to outsource through.
I’m in Japan, the shop that ordered them for me were upfront and said mid-September. I’m in no rush
Sweet, looking forward to them, my current slip-ones are almost done
Is consolidated popular in Japan?
We have an awesome relationship our distributor, Underdog Distribution, and the shops that he works with! Those guys have always had our backs. 😊
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leticia comes on here talking all this shit... kinda funny how it took nike to put kaepernick and his message back in the spot light.
wheres consolidated's kaepernick campaign?
We’re not into football...
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I wonder if Consolidated could make more money if they took this opportunity to become the first alt-right Skate brand...
Probably not, but I mean they can’t be doing well
I’d rather slit my throat.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyz7r8A59m/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lw8rjjg31jen
"Fuck Nike skateboarding"
Wearing Cons. ::) ;D
They’re actually Consolidated Banana shoes. 🍌😊
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I thought Consolidated and Nike did a collaboration. Maybe with Steve Nesser ? Or Nike did a colorway without their permission? Someone on here knows.
todd bratrud who used to do consolidated graphics, did a shoe colorway with Nike that had NOTHING to do with Consolidated. Todd said he used the San Jose Sharks colorway, but those colors are also the Consolidated cube colorways and Consolidated was bummed because it was perceived as a Consolidated dunk when it wasn't supposed to be. It was something like that, if I remeber correctly. Leticia? Care to elaborate?
Yeah, you pretty much got it pretty spot on, Christopher. We didn’t know about the shoe until it was being sold to shops, and they started asking me about it and I had no idea what they were talking about. It was really lame. Nike even wanted to call it the Consolidunk, but luckily, Todd had the common sense to tell them there was no way that could happen.
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Consolidated had this graphic back in the day that said "Oh, the humanatee." It had pictures of manatees under the sea wearing shorts and it cracked me up. I used to draw it in my high school notebooks. Actually, I still doodle it when I draw with my niece. I wonder if Scott Bourne still skates.
Haha, that rules! Yeah somebody submitted that artwork and Birdo also loved it, so we did it!
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Leticia rules for for directly addressing any doubts about consolidated . also she's foxy as hell , sorry if I'm out of line.
Edit: the sorry is for leticia not the crybabies of slap
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I thought Consolidated and Nike did a collaboration. Maybe with Steve Nesser ? Or Nike did a colorway without their permission? Someone on here knows.
todd bratrud who used to do consolidated graphics, did a shoe colorway with Nike that had NOTHING to do with Consolidated. Todd said he used the San Jose Sharks colorway, but those colors are also the Consolidated cube colorways and Consolidated was bummed because it was perceived as a Consolidated dunk when it wasn't supposed to be. It was something like that, if I remeber correctly. Leticia? Care to elaborate?
Consolidunk, awesome , I never knew that. Thanks for your input Leticia. :) have a rad day.
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no one speaks ill of my loveable sweet hairy todd bratrud you hear me NO ONE
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I loved the Number One video. This thread is good advertising, I wanna check out some boards now
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So is the gnar/kook system ironic or something? Leticia is propped up yet works at the most hated company.
Most my negative rep came from defending these guys
Number One is an all time fave, I'm just bummed to learn that Jessee was on the team when that motorcycle interview came out :(
I mean y'all had to of seen it, right?
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I wonder if Consolidated could make more money if they took this opportunity to become the first alt-right Skate brand...
Probably not, but I mean they can’t be doing well
I'm glad Leticia had a great answer. I can't think of anything worse than supporting the extreme-right.
Also, while we are on the subject, I firmly believe that Todd's shoe combined with the infamous ultimatum is what made Nike legitimate among the core. I remember right after these two incidents a certain core dude who likes sombrero footage was rocking Nike and all the local dominos fell behind him. After this guy went against Consolidated and sided with the swoosh it was all over. (Not saying it was all him, but his defection was a really big symbolic moment in the Don't Do It campaign.)
But, I honestly, I feel like Nike boxed Consolidated in and I don't think there was a right answer for the Consolidated here. If they stayed silent the swoosh could pretend Consolidated backed them and the swoosh could continue to steal from the cube's history as a core brand, or Consolidated could make a few aggressive moves trying to defend their history and alienate some within the scene. Either way Nike and its anthropologist market researchers really boxed Consolidated in. (Not to say Consolidated didn't have issues and it was completely innocent, but the game was rigged against them.)
People give P-Rod credit for making Nike, but this has never sat well with me. No one in the core gave a fuck about P-Rod. At the time, he was hated for abandoning eS and Girl.
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Leticia rules for for directly addressing any doubts about consolidated . also she's foxy as hell , sorry if I'm out of line.
Edit: the sorry is for leticia not the crybabies of slap
Thanks...and thanks, Surf-goth. 😊
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I thought Consolidated and Nike did a collaboration. Maybe with Steve Nesser ? Or Nike did a colorway without their permission? Someone on here knows.
todd bratrud who used to do consolidated graphics, did a shoe colorway with Nike that had NOTHING to do with Consolidated. Todd said he used the San Jose Sharks colorway, but those colors are also the Consolidated cube colorways and Consolidated was bummed because it was perceived as a Consolidated dunk when it wasn't supposed to be. It was something like that, if I remeber correctly. Leticia? Care to elaborate?
👍🏼👍🏼😊
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyz7r8A59m/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lw8rjjg31jen
"Fuck Nike skateboarding"
Wearing Cons. ::) ;D
They’re our Consolidated Upchucks.
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So is the gnar/kook system ironic or something? Leticia is propped up yet works at the most hated company.
Most my negative rep came from defending these guys
Number One is an all time fave, I'm just bummed to learn that Jessee was on the team when that motorcycle interview came out :(
I mean y'all had to of seen it, right?
THE most hated?? That bad, huh? Haha.
Regardless, thanks for having our backs during some of our really low times, BacksideWallride.
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So is the gnar/kook system ironic or something? Leticia is propped up yet works at the most hated company.
Most my negative rep came from defending these guys
kooked both of you if that makes you feel better.
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I wonder if Consolidated could make more money if they took this opportunity to become the first alt-right Skate brand...
Probably not, but I mean they can’t be doing well
I'm glad Leticia had a great answer. I can't think of anything worse than supporting the extreme-right.
Also, while we are on the subject, I firmly believe that Todd's shoe combined with the infamous ultimatum is what made Nike legitimate among the core. I remember right after these two incidents a certain core dude who likes sombrero footage was rocking Nike and all the local dominos fell behind him. After this guy went against Consolidated and sided with the swoosh it was all over. (Not saying it was all him, but his defection was a really big symbolic moment in the Don't Do It campaign.)
But, I honestly, I feel like Nike boxed Consolidated in and I don't think there was a right answer for the Consolidated here. If they stayed silent the swoosh could pretend Consolidated backed them and the swoosh could continue to steal from the cube's history as a core brand, or Consolidated could make a few aggressive moves trying to defend their history and alienate some within the scene. Either way Nike and its anthropologist market researchers really boxed Consolidated in. (Not to say Consolidated didn't have issues and it was completely innocent, but the game was rigged against them.)
People give P-Rod credit for making Nike, but this has never sat well with me. No one in the core gave a fuck about P-Rod. At the time, he was hated for abandoning eS and Girl.
So crazy, seems like you were living our nightmare with us, with this post, TheLurker. We did feel that way: damned if we did and damned if we didn’t. But we just dug deep and then the answer became black and white-stay true to what we always believed...and then it didn’t matter what the consequences would be.
But yeah, it sucked big time when they tried attaching themselves to us...without either Birdo or myself having Ever talked to anybody there. When we saw the email from a NorCal Nike sales rep aligning us with them and insinuating that we were part of the Send Help shoe, that’s the straw that broke the camel’s back and just solidified so much of what we felt they were about, so back to war we went...
But to be honest with you, I don’t know who the sombrero footage guy is?? Or at least, he’s not coming to mind??
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So is the gnar/kook system ironic or something? Leticia is propped up yet works at the most hated company.
Most my negative rep came from defending these guys
kooked both of you if that makes you feel better.
Awesome. I'm sure it made you feel better doing so.
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Leticia,
I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.
But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?
Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?
This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
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At least 1 out of 4 people in the photo skate
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyz7r8A59m/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lw8rjjg31jen
"Fuck Nike skateboarding"
Wearing Cons. ::) ;D
Converse wasn't the first to manufacture and sell that style of sneaker. They are just the most known for that silhouette
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyz7r8A59m/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lw8rjjg31jen
"Fuck Nike skateboarding"
Wearing Cons. ::) ;D
Converse wasn't the first to manufacture and sell that style of sneaker. They are just the most known for that silhouette
They’ve been pushing them out for over 100 years already. Who did it before that? :o
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y'all remember this one?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmyz7r8A59m/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=lw8rjjg31jen
"Fuck Nike skateboarding"
Wearing Cons. ::) ;D
Converse wasn't the first to manufacture and sell that style of sneaker. They are just the most known for that silhouette
Point is they are representing the creativity, originality and DIY spirit of skateboarding by selling inferior knock offs of a hundred year old shoe design. Way to go Consolidated.
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Leticia, will you go on a skate date with me?
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I loved the Number One video. This thread is good advertising, I wanna check out some boards now
Haha, awesome. Do it! 😊
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So is the gnar/kook system ironic or something? Leticia is propped up yet works at the most hated company.
Most my negative rep came from defending these guys
kooked both of you if that makes you feel better.
Awesome. I'm sure it made you feel better doing so.
Hahaha, BacksideWallride. Thanks, Feedmeseymour. 👍🏼👍🏼
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Leticia,
I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.
But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?
Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?
This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
Hey Cucktard, yeah, our supplier actually sent us fotos of his factory and I posted em on one of the threads about us on here. I can see if I can find em. And he also told us that that the working conditions was something that was very important to him. So yes, we are very comfortable with who we are working with!
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At least 1 out of 4 people in the photo skate
Just out of curiosity, what makes you think Birdo never skated?
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how much are the banana shoes and are they suede?
canvas won't last but if you have a non slave shoe that is conducive to skating, count me in.
if not, i guess it's back to slavery!
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They’re our Consolidated Upchucks.
I don’t know how long you’ve been skating,but they came out like about 8-10 years ago? Anyways, we didn’t do that many or advertise them much either...or maybe we just weren’t on your radar. 😊
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y'all remember this one?
Yeah...we still have em. They’re our price point boards to try and get the word out...
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how much are the banana shoes and are they suede?
canvas won't last but if you have a non slave shoe that is conducive to skating, count me in.
if not, i guess it's back to slavery!
The last run was suede, but this run is canvas. They’re going for like $55-60, and yes, it is a non-slave shoe. We know pricing on shoes is important, so that helped us bring the price down. But we also wanted to make sure they lasted, so we added the toe cap and Ollie guard. We just posted a clip of somebody skating in them over on our gram if you wanna check it out...
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Leticia,
I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.
But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?
Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?
This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
Thanks for the info, appreciated
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Just picked them up last night.
And for a slip-on, I’m impressed. Canvas outer, some kind of soft mesh lining, the caps are pretty thick and the heelcup is pretty stiff.
The only thing I’m not impressed with is the insole, but I usually switch mine out anyways.
Nice work
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Dude get off of leticia's dick, if you're so juiced about your fucking consolidated shoes send her a PM or some shit instead of carrying on a two-way convo on a fucking internet forum for skateboard gossip you fucking WEABOO!
- The guy at home on a fucking internet forum for skateboard gossip on saturday night.
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In the Nike thread cucktard said he was not impressed with skate shoes the free market produces. He said capitalism is inherently immoral by seeking profit and that a centrally planned government would result in more “ethical” skate shoes. Cucktard is however very impressed with Consolidated’s Kmart quality knock off shoes. God I hope Leticia has two accounts...
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In the Nike thread cucktard said he was not impressed with skate shoes the free market produces. He said capitalism is inherently immoral by seeking profit and that a centrally planned government would result in more “ethical” skate shoes. Cucktard is however very impressed with Consolidated’s Kmart quality knock off shoes. God I hope Leticia has two accounts...
Yes, I buy shoes in an immoral system. I am thusly hypocritical no matter what.
What you seem unable to do is separate my critique of specifically Nike driving the labor race to the bottom of the barrel and me buying shoes.
PS- the free market is not the sole driver of innovation. Human ingenuity is, that that happens regardless of economic system.
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In the Nike thread cucktard said he was not impressed with skate shoes the free market produces. He said capitalism is inherently immoral by seeking profit and that a centrally planned government would result in more “ethical” skate shoes. Cucktard is however very impressed with Consolidated’s Kmart quality knock off shoes. God I hope Leticia has two accounts...
Yes, I buy shoes in an immoral system. I am thusly hypocritical no matter what.
What you seem unable to do is separate my critique of specifically Nike driving the labor race to the bottom of the barrel and me buying shoes.
PS- the free market is not the sole driver of innovation. Human ingenuity is, that that happens regardless of economic system.
Uh, don't you mean necessity? You seem wet, real wet.
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Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.
There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.
The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.
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Leticia,
I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.
But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?
Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?
This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
Questions for Leticia:
1. Do you ever worry that by holding such a polarized view of the world you miss out on the true nuanced nature of reality? By making a blanket statement of “Fuck Nike” you’re essentially saying everything they do is always bad. Can you admit that while you disagree with certain actions, there are plenty of good things they do. Seeing the world in only black and white terms is one of the classic logical fallacies: False Dilemma/False Dichotomy.
2. You’ve stated multiple times that you do not skateboard. I’m curious to why? You run a skateboard company and have immersed yourself in skateboarding culture. It’s interesting that you feel confident to be an authoritative voice in our community yet show no desire to actually participate in it.
3. Do you hold the same standards of “fuck Nike” in other areas of your life? Before you buy a toothbrush or nail clipper do you research the company to make sure it 100% lines up with the entirety your ethics? I’m assuming you can’t ever use amazon because of their documented treatment of workers. You eat meat, so you’re comfortable with the loss of a sentient being for your pleasure, yet despise an outside company entering skateboarding. I also find it interesting that you have a photo drinking Coors light, who do exactly what you claim to despise in skateboarding to the craft beer industry. You also have a photo drinking a Red Bull. Curious to why Red Bull’s participation in skateboarding, marketing unhealthy drinks to children, is any worse than that of Nike’s.
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Casey Hellseth told me he has never (with his own eyes) seen neither Leticia nor Birdo even step on a skateboard
This is the most fraud company in skateboarding who are selling you on not buying from fraudulent companies.
Leticia and Birdo yall have some real testicles to post vacation pics meanwhile your riders are notoriously struggling
#FuckConsolidated
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Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.
There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.
The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.
Whatever dude. You bore me.
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Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.
There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.
The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.
Ah yes the scientific invention of the skateboard. Please humor me on what your ideal economic system is.
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Necessity does drive a lot of innovation, but not all.
There has been a lot of science done for the sake of science, not because it is ‘necessary ‘ in an economic sense. To satisfy human curiosity.
The invention of skateboarding wasn’t filling any kind of necessity except to kill boredom when waves were flat.
Still unclear how your made up utopian economy will allocate scarce resources, each of which have alternative uses.
But anyways.... are you foreign or something dude? Consolidated is based out of Santa Cruz and no one in Santa Cruz fucks with them.
The war is over, don’t be the last soldier to die...
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Leticia,
I’m already obligated to buy the shoes I ordered from the local shop, so you guys are getting my money regardless.
But I would like to know, what are the conditions like in the factory you use to make the shoes? Is it any different than the average sweat-shop run by vans or Nike?
Do you guys have labor standards when looking at factories?
This isn’t an attack, I’m buying your shoes regardless at this point, but it is something (the main thing, actually) that pisses me off about Nike. So I’m wondering if you guys approach that aspect and differently as well
did he pinky swear?
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Casey Hellseth told me he has never (with his own eyes) seen neither Leticia nor Birdo even step on a skateboard
This is the most fraud company in skateboarding who are selling you on not buying from fraudulent companies.
Leticia and Birdo yall have some real testicles to post vacation pics meanwhile your riders are notoriously struggling
#FuckConsolidated
Who doesn't remember Leticia's Hall of Meat miniramp drop in?
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Ah yes the scientific invention of the skateboard. Please humor me on what your ideal economic system is.
Still unclear how your made up utopian economy will allocate scarce resources, each of which have alternative uses.
But anyways.... are you foreign or something dude?
I’m putting these together because apparently it’s completely reasonable to ask for a working alternative for mandkind’s economy any time someone dares to point out the shitty aspects of Nike and capitalism.
And I suspect not because you (or the many others that react with this dismissive query that is more a way to shut down the conversation) are interested, but it feels good to yell ‘hypocrite ‘ in your heads and keep things the same rather than acknowledge we need serious change.
But anyways, since you asked...
There are a wealth of different approaches apart from the extreme corporate American model (which by the way, relies heavily on subsidies/tax breaks/tax avoidance, so it’s “socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor”. )
This could be anything from Schumacher-style ‘Buddhist Economics” theory, mixed economies (markets for luxuries, cooperative control of basic human needs like food, electricity, water), PARECON-style horizontal economies, algorithms for resource allocation based on need (not any different than now, except we use algorithms for profit margins) or anything in between. For now, i’d be happy with Varoufakis-style steps toward weaning ourselves off the more extreme elements of corporate capitalism.
I don’t have a personal favorite, but it is obvious that Capitalism is unsustainable, exaggerates inequality, and deadly to the planet.
It needs to end soon, because it has no internal way of stopping resource destruction and pushing global warming to suicidal levels before it’s already too late. Which it may already be.
Bawtawdwon- the skateboard was obviously an example of everyday innovation, but if you want a scientific one, how about Hubble or CERN? The skateboard itself is an example of ingenuity based on play, not economic competition, in case I wasn’t being clear enough. Or you being deliberately obtuse.
And by the way, how do you solve the problem of Capitalism’s need for infinite growth with us being on a planet of very limited resources?
Bob, I’m Canadian, but live overseas.
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Leticia would only be smashable if she were a corrections officer and you were doing hard time.