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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: lexington on May 18, 2018, 04:03:01 PM
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Such a fun trick. Forgiving, yet sternly requiring commitment. Satisfying on all forms of terrain, whether ollied or slid into. I'll will always dream about the back tail, but after the dream I shall sleep well knowing frontside tailslides will always be there for me when I wake. God bless you, frontside tailslide.
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A fun yet simple trick. Easier to get into on taller obstacles, and feel great to sit on. There's a nice ledge at one of my local parks that tricks me into thinking I'm actually good at them--it slides to beautifully.
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Old faithful. One of the first tricks I did on a handrail other than a boardslide.
Recently started hanging out with his older brother backside. He's kind of flakey but we have fun together sometimes.
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I like popping out of a bank into fsts on a ledge
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I'm great at stopping dead on this one....
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full speed front tails all day! i love this trick so much the rest of my board gets neglected
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Such a fun trick. Forgiving, yet sternly requiring commitment. Satisfying on all forms of terrain, whether ollied or slid into. I'll will always dream about the back tail, but after the dream I shall sleep well knowing frontside tailslides will always be there for me when I wake. God bless you, frontside tailslide.
Amen to that! The back tail has always been so elusive while the front tail is old faithful.
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i've said that fsts is my favorite trick before.
i learned bsts in 2014 or 2015 for a season before loosing em.
fsts is, as mentioned, old faithful.
not the biggest geyser in the basin but she's there when you need her.
and when you don't.
if you're having trouble sliding, push her to fakie.
in the late 90s, early 2000s i did them both ways but i'd often have trouble getting into them.
i made a conscious effort to always commit and push to fakie in like 07 i think and have been rocking bossanova ever since.
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front tail to fakie isnt bad you just jump all the way in
going to regular is alot harder to do properly
gotta extend that leg and pop out
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Sweet, I love frontside tailslides. I consider them to be solidly my wheelhouse, and have been for about 20 years, but I still stick on the damn things like 1 out of 5 times. I don't wax shit, strictly because I never have any wax, so that might be it, but to this day I don't know what I am doing different when I come to a complete stop and when I slide one ten feet. You ever see anyone do a 270 out to fakie, like come out regular but just keep going? I'm glad it doesn't happen often, but it's kind of a fun one.
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A fun yet simple trick. Easier to get into on taller obstacles, and feel great to sit on. There's a nice ledge at one of my local parks that tricks me into thinking I'm actually good at them--it slides to beautifully.
Easier to get into on what?! shit not for me I can do them in a bowl and that's it pretty much it cept for curbs.
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I can't do them shits, never did one on a ledge, only done a few on quarterpipes. Best one I did was when I trying to do a lipslide.
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For the fucking life of me I can't do them. I had them back in 2010-2012 but lost them. A good fsts fakie and then a fakie Tre is one of the smoothest two piece lines there is.
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Love it! I've always had them fairly decent. It's super fun trick and def a go too for me.
Not quite as good feeling as the backtail but the backtail can be such a harsh bitch.
I can't do a single trick outta a front tail though, but that's cool. Regards or to fakie is good enough for this guy
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Does not compute for me...
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i never understood them until i studied a few that brian anderson did. here's what i noted:
stare at the obstacle with a menacing look, crouch down further than you normally would (better to overshoot then to do the classic toe clip on the way up), use your arms/shoulders to swing into it, and you're chilling.
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I always stick show me da wey
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You ever see anyone do a 270 out to fakie, like come out regular but just keep going? I'm glad it doesn't happen often, but it's kind of a fun one.
As you implied there’s a reason you don’t see it much. Pretty hard to make that look good and do sans pivot while rolling away with any speed.
Front tail was the first ledge trick I learnt after 5050s for some reason. Even when I have them down, I’ll eat shit on them once in a while. They either work well or go horribly wrong for me. I like doing them on inwall ledges because I am poosey and you can’t really go into lip and slam that way on those. Seems like a good way to learn em too, if you can find that kinda ledge. Rip commerce court in wall ledge
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A fun yet simple trick. Easier to get into on taller obstacles, and feel great to sit on. There's a nice ledge at one of my local parks that tricks me into thinking I'm actually good at them--it slides to beautifully.
I can do them OK, but even when I manage to hold them for more than 2 feet it never feels like I sit on them. I have wanted to do tricks out of tailslides for the longest time. It seems fairly simple to do a kickflip or a shove it out of a tailstall, but it has been impossible for me to kickflip out of a tailslide.
How the hell to you learn to hold and control a frontside tailslide?
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A fun yet simple trick. Easier to get into on taller obstacles, and feel great to sit on. There's a nice ledge at one of my local parks that tricks me into thinking I'm actually good at them--it slides to beautifully.
I can do them OK, but even when I manage to hold them for more than 2 feet it never feels like I sit on them. I have wanted to do tricks out of tailslides for the longest time. It seems fairly simple to do a kickflip or a shove it out of a tailstall, but it has been impossible for me to kickflip out of a tailslide.
How the hell to you learn to hold and control a frontside tailslide?
go fast enough to keep momentum and lean into the ledge, like towards your pinky toe on the sliding foot.
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I'm great at stopping dead on this one....
i feel you
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I'm frontside tail slide man, faithfull trick of mine
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love em but i have days when i just cant get the balance right
does anyone else have to consciously lift your heel to get backside ones to slide? cant help but feel i'm doing them wrong
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i never understood them until i studied a few that brian anderson did. here's what i noted:
stare at the obstacle with a menacing look, crouch down further than you normally would (better to overshoot then to do the classic toe clip on the way up), use your arms/shoulders to swing into it, and you're chilling.
Hahahahah! So good.
I always accidentally get into a tweaked 5-0, and when I have done them they have never slid properly. I am now realizing this is a trick I should totally be able to do but have never taken to time to properly learn. I need to do that.
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Never done one on a box but oh how good they feel on a quarter involving no Ollie
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for a while I always went to fakie on them. then I practiced coming straight out of tail stalls and now I do short tailslides to regular rollaway. I want to be able to slide one really far. I figure it’s like when you lock into a really long noseslide. I just have to transfer that over to tailslides.
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are there any more threads like this one? this is my favorite kind of skate discussion
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bigspin out works like a charm with them, never landed 270 or flip out
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I’ve been hella late 90’s lately and crooks and fromt tails have become the two go-tos for me
Frontside tailslides on banks are so fun. There’s something about the way the bank sticks out so your wheels have to screech along the bank that makes it so fucking satisfying. There are harder things I’ve tailslid, but banks are great. Also, tailslide to fakie on anything just feels good and right.
Back tails are moody but feel so cool when I can do them, front tails are just fun any time any place
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honestly one of my favorite tricks to do. fun on every type of terrain but, i like doing them on transition the most. especially when it's just barely waxed and you stomp it down and lean back as hard as you can. get the nice squeaky sound like someone slammed on the breaks hauling ass in an old car.
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Oh man. Hella front tail love here. They are a heavy part of my bag and ol' trusty for sure. Whenever I traveled to skate somewhere I would find myself getting stuck in tailslide mode sometimes. I would find myself in a place wanting to get a clip but not wanting to get hurt and voila, another tailslide. Ha.
Love em any which way you can dish em out. But nowadays they feel best on the 4 foot mini ramp up the street in my friends backyard.
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Regular on tranny/banks
Switch on ledges/street <3
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ah such a fun ass trick tried the backside kind the other day for the first time in ages, before i die i will learn back tails
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I'm great at stopping dead on this one....
i feel you
Yea same here, I always stick, anybody pinpointed this yet? I feel like im leaning too in/not on top enough, but thats how I do back tails and it works great. Feel like a kook waxing the wheel part of the ledge so I dont stick.
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I'm great at stopping dead on this one....
i feel you
Yea same here, I always stick, anybody pinpointed this yet? I feel like im leaning too in/not on top enough, but thats how I do back tails and it works great. Feel like a kook waxing the wheel part of the ledge so I dont stick.
push it to fakie and you'll slide every time.
you're sposedta wax the wheel part. waxing just the top is like sucking a dick and not cupping the balls.
cup the balls, ihop!
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They’re pretty on/off for me but on those days I got em, I got em good.
Anyone got any tips for front tail 270 out?
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They’re pretty on/off for me but on those days I got em, I got em good.
Anyone got any tips for front tail 270 out?
Still got some vibes leftover from the chill thread, but I would rather not see this trick, reminds me of snowboarders.
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are you supposed to lean into them? i usually try to stand there and hope that it slides. for back tails, i have the tendency to lean because makes sense to push it, but how do you do that for frontside without slipping out? most of the time my heel drags so i can't figure it out
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I can only really do them on banks and tranny but agreed, they feel so good, especially when you get a little pop upon reentry.
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someone mentioned in the insights thread that you should aim ahead on the obstacle for slides and grinds. that definitely holds true for front tails. it helped me to start landing this more consistently and I’m in my late 30s.
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are you supposed to lean into them? i usually try to stand there and hope that it slides. for back tails, i have the tendency to lean because makes sense to push it, but how do you do that for frontside without slipping out? most of the time my heel drags so i can't figure it out
I'd say standing on top of it with your weight is the way to do it. Your heel drags because you're probably hitting it at an angle, which a lot of people do. I think that's wrong. Come at it straight on, completely parallel and focus more on just sliding your front foot and getting a good pop. That will get you a good lock in. As for holding it, that's just doing it a shit load of times and getting comfortable I suppose. I haven't had the desire to do a tailslide longer than my local park ledge, so I only realistically slide them 2-4 ft most of the time.
Best fs tail combo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-0TsCscfwU
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They’re pretty on/off for me but on those days I got em, I got em good.
Anyone got any tips for front tail 270 out?
Can frontside tail to regs and fakie but much prefer backside tails. A kid at my local park was doing really good front tail 270s I complimented him on the trick and he said he got really good at nollie cabs on flat(not slap approved I know but you know what I mean) then that trick came to him really easy afterwards. Never helped me but maybe you can take something from it
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I know how to at all it all day but every time one gets to sliding I end up on my ass from leaning back too much? Wish I could dial it in. But it's a go to for banks and quarters. Backside on banks and quarters isn't very hard but I've never done a legit one in the streets but done a kickflip in on many a curb.
On an unrelated note, shoutout to inwall ledges, you give me the power. My best ledge tricks have been performed on you probably. Fakie switch front nose can go down
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Frontside tailslides were the first slide I learned after boardslides. Took me a while to get it sliding, but when I did, I got 'em proper. Sometimes I think doing them to fakie is the easy way out if you don't look like you are in control of it. Heath and Tom K have the best ones in my opinion. My homie can do them both ways and make them look good, but I kinda force mine and they always end up back to regular.
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I know how to at all it all day but every time one gets to sliding I end up on my ass from leaning back too much? Wish I could dial it in. But it's a go to for banks and quarters. Backside on banks and quarters isn't very hard but I've never done a legit one in the streets but done a kickflip in on many a curb.
On an unrelated note, shoutout to inwall ledges, you give me the power. My best ledge tricks have been performed on you probably. Fakie switch front nose can go down
fakie ollie bs tailslide. get it straight, ride krooked
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I know how to at all it all day but every time one gets to sliding I end up on my ass from leaning back too much? Wish I could dial it in. But it's a go to for banks and quarters. Backside on banks and quarters isn't very hard but I've never done a legit one in the streets but done a kickflip in on many a curb.
On an unrelated note, shoutout to inwall ledges, you give me the power. My best ledge tricks have been performed on you probably. Fakie switch front nose can go down
really fun one too, feet orgasm when it goes to crook
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fakie ollie bs tailslide. get it straight, ride krooked
makes more sense to call it switch front nose because you look over your back shoulder. or fakie front tail because it's a front tail sliding backwards
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you got it wrong, kid, we're talking about the other one^^
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When you really have tail slides down coming out fakie or regular is just a matter of choice, neither way out is harder than the other. Landing fakie at speed feels better; sort of a little more out of control feeling I guess. Rolling away backwards is fun.
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someone mentioned in the insights thread that you should aim ahead on the obstacle for slides and grinds. that definitely holds true for front tails. it helped me to start landing this more consistently and I’m in my late 30s.
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I'd say standing on top of it with your weight is the way to do it. Your heel drags because you're probably hitting it at an angle, which a lot of people do. I think that's wrong. Come at it straight on, completely parallel and focus more on just sliding your front foot and getting a good pop. That will get you a good lock in. As for holding it, that's just doing it a shit load of times and getting comfortable I suppose. I haven't had the desire to do a tailslide longer than my local park ledge, so I only realistically slide them 2-4 ft most of the time.
Best fs tail combo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-0TsCscfwU
Concentrate really hard on sliding your front foot. And think of your shoulders in this scenario:
- Rolling up: shoulders parallel with ledge, board etc should be as well.
- Pop: At this point you should begin rotating your shoulders. Your end goal is to do a 90 with them and ultimately be shoulders forward while sliding.
- Sliding: Shoulders are turned 90 degrees, facing forward, you're sliding. All weight should be on tail at this point. Thinking about flexing my back foot and being a little lead foot helps me control while I'm sliding.
- Land: Transition your shoulders back to parallel with ledge, doesn't really matter at this point. If you've made it this far do whatever the fuck you want. Pretend you're Dylan Rieder
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Concentrate really hard on sliding your front foot. And think of your shoulders in this scenario:
- Rolling up: shoulders parallel with ledge, board etc should be as well.
- Pop: At this point you should begin rotating your shoulders. Your end goal is to do a 90 with them and ultimately be shoulders forward while sliding.
- Sliding: Shoulders are turned 90 degrees, facing forward, you're sliding. All weight should be on tail at this point. Thinking about flexing my back foot and being a little lead foot helps me control while I'm sliding.
- Land: Transition your shoulders back to parallel with ledge, doesn't really matter at this point. If you've made it this far do whatever the fuck you want. Pretend you're Dylan Rieder
thanks for this. the way learned them was:
- ollie into 5-0
- turn into tail
that's probably why i have trouble rotating, since the 5-0 is more or less straight. i've also tried thinking of them as a lipslide but undershooting so as to land on the tail. that's scary because it's easy to over-rotate and slip backwards
i remember something about leaning into tailslides from this weekend buzz with josh kalis, but i guess that only applies to backside since most people recommend just standing there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o19OhwwgHSc
at 12:41
you got it wrong, kid, we're talking about the other one^^
fakie ollie to switch frontside noseslide
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OldSimplisticGuppy-max-14mb.gif)
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fakie ollie bs tailslide. get it straight, ride krooked
NO
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makes more sense to call it switch front nose because you look over your back shoulder. or fakie front tail because it's a front tail sliding backwards
frontside tailslide:
- approach obstacle such that you are facing it (frontside)
- frontside 90 ollie
- land on tail
- slide
fakie frontside tailside:
- approach obstacle such that you are facing it (frontside)
- fakie frontside 90 ollie
- land on tail
- slide backwards (otherwise known as fakie)
what's this?
(https://i.imgur.com/IdbiIzV.gif)
why yes, that is in fact a fakie frontside 5-0. so what if you just turn a little bit?
a fakie backside tailslide, you say? okay
or:
fakie ollie -> switch frontside noseslide
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makes more sense to call it switch front nose because you look over your back shoulder. or fakie front tail because it's a front tail sliding backwards
- approach obstacle such that you are facing it (frontside)
- frontside 90 ollie
- land on tail
- slide
fakie frontside tailside:
- approach obstacle such that you are facing it (frontside)
- fakie frontside 90 ollie
- land on tail
- slide backwards (otherwise known as fakie)
what's this?
(https://i.imgur.com/IdbiIzV.gif)
why yes, that is in fact a fakie frontside 5-0. so what if you just turn a little bit?
a fakie backside tailslide, you say? okay
or:
fakie ollie -> switch frontside noseslide
i'd agree with you if i was still 12 and super technical about trick names, but now that this is a trick that i would actually be able to do i also think it should be called a fakie backside tailslide as it has more in common with a regular back tail than with a regular front tail (even though you roll up frontside). it's the same with lipslides, a fakie lipslide where you face the rail rolling up is a fakie back lip to me
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fakie back tail
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I really don’t give a shot about trick terminology.
But here we go...
What about fakie front crook? Would that not be a fakie bs suski if the case?
Dunno don’t care just curious?
I like the way heath does fs tails
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that's why tricks names are inverse today, back in times.....a modern fsboardslide was a bsboardslide cause you have to a bs ollie to make them, same thing for noseslides etc....
and then nollies...all complicated inverse story ;D
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1) its a fakie back tail. That’s just what everybody calls them, don’t get too technical, just know everybody calls them fakie back tails and move on knowing the proper term to use if you want people to know what you mean
2) I’ve given these tips before somewhere on this board about sliding tailslides and swear they work: don’t lean back on top of your body, get on it with your body set like you are sitting in an invisible chair, knees bent, body over your thighs behind them.
Ankles are key: make sure you have them open, like your foot and shin should make an obtuse angle.
Do both of those things and you’ll find they slide like a dream
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Just want to mention fakie back tails and Jeremy wray.
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1) its a fakie back tail. That’s just what everybody calls them, don’t get too technical, just know everybody calls them fakie back tails and move on knowing the proper term to use if you want people to know what you mean
2) I’ve given these tips before somewhere on this board about sliding tailslides and swear they work: don’t lean back on top of your body, get on it with your body set like you are sitting in an invisible chair, knees bent, body over your thighs behind them.
Ankles are key: make sure you have them open, like your foot and shin should make an obtuse angle.
Do both of those things and you’ll find they slide like a dream
Agree with these- I'd add having speed helps and learning to land softly. You don't need to smash your tail...
I always felt like I have to be able to easily clear the object, not like noseslides where you can cheat into higher stuff.
Learn on a curb if that helps, then move to those knee-high ledges.
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i can slide bs in anything but a cant fs tail even if my life depended on it and it suck caus i really like the trick even if my life depended on it to regular like Heath Kirchart
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ozQVAD6K4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ozQVAD6K4)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ozQVAD6K4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ozQVAD6K4)
Just wanted to point out that in the freeze frame he is doing exactly what I advised to do, knees bent, body above the thighs, ankles bent to make an obtuse angle.
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haha i love that video so much.
ive never been able to do any tailslides. i cant even tailstall on stuff. i just cant ever commit to getting all my weight on my back foot.
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I say switch nollie nose because...well....I'm smarter than everyone....
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i have always sucked at front tails. more comfortable back tailing anything
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> doesn't care what the trick is called
>> continues to argue with people who actually know what the trick is called
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no fall out to fakies people
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ozQVAD6K4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ozQVAD6K4)
Like Nick Boserio says at 1:04 get some target practice with a tail stall
definitely helps to stall them riding parallel on an unwaxed curb or ledge
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Frontslide tailslides are probably my favorite trick. I can slide em as long as I want, pop out to fakie or regular, feels so good. BUT for some reason when it comes to backside tailslides I can not for the life of me slide for longer than 1 ft, I always fall out or immediately stick. I want to have them like I have front tails so bad, but I'm losing hope it'll ever happen :(
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Glad I cause such a huge controversy with the fakie switch front nose comment. I know most people say fakie back tail but that makes me think of someone doing a fakie Ollie to a switch back tail and it looking really disgusting so I just don't have the gall to call it such
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It's only a fake ollie frontside noseslide if you do a f/s indy out.
Heath coming out to forward from his front tails are dreamy. How do you guys feel about nollie front tails?
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^^ i always thought they looked kinda ugly nollie cause you don't often see a nice pop in
anyone got tips for kickflip to regs or frontside flip out?
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How do you guys feel about nollie front tails?
i think they look cool when done at high speed or at something tall, but they can't be long to look good in my eyes, i don't like seeing them on long hubbas etc
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How do you guys feel about nollie front tails?
i think they look cool when done at high speed or at something tall, but they can't be long to look good in my eyes, i don't like seeing them on long hubbas etc
nollie front tails are pretty easy and kinda fun to do, the kind of trick you could not try for over a year and still be able to land it no problem. that being said i dont enjoy when somebody does a nollie front tail in a video part. i would much rather see a nollie fs180 into a switch crook. even just a nollie lip slide on a rail looks better then a nollie front tail.
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How do you guys feel about nollie front tails?
I like em, fun as fuck on a low curb/ ledge or when you're just cruising down the street
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Nollie front tailslide on transition is rad. Nollie tail on aledge needs to be done really well to not suck
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I’ve lost nearly every trick I ever had on lock but this guy just keeps giving. Thanks fstsx
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Front tails have always been my go to on every obstacle, although I did take a year off after breaking my ankle trying to get one down to regular on a hubba. Now I just know to take em to fakie. Except on a vert ramp. I've never gotten the balls to pull one back around from that high. Pools yes, because that coping sticks out farther and makes it a little easier, but a vert ramp with regular coping, I'll just point that nose down and come in regular.
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I like backside better, but front side is a little bit easier on transiition.
always pop out when going to fakie, its nice to pop out a little bit back to regular.
I love doing fast fs tails on transition and continuing to power slide as you come down the transition.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rumWr5E8_Rk
go to 45:37
if someone nollie tailslides like this, then it's an awesome and stylish trick. if not, then it usually isn't
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Front tails have always been my go to on every obstacle, although I did take a year off after breaking my ankle trying to get one down to regular on a hubba. Now I just know to take em to fakie. Except on a vert ramp. I've never gotten the balls to pull one back around from that high. Pools yes, because that coping sticks out farther and makes it a little easier, but a vert ramp with regular coping, I'll just point that nose down and come in regular.
How the fuck do you tailslide on vert? Shit is fucking impossible to me. Every time I've tried I end up floating away from the coping with no ability to bring myself back toward it.
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I can't think of another trick where frontside is so, so much easier than its backside version.
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Nestor Judkins
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I can't think of another trick where frontside is so, so much easier than its backside version.
smith grinds.
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Whenever I try to commit to this trick on a ledge, my tail always slips off and I slam my hip super hard on the ground. One of the reasons I'm terrified of skating ledges. I've been trying to get over that fear though, so maybe I'll try some tonight.
There's a bank to curb section at my local and I love doing them on there though. Can't really slide them that much, but snapping in and getting a good pop out feels so good.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BjIok8fFMFO/?hl=en&taken-by=memoryscreen
Envious of anyone who can do front tails consistently. I'm still in the process of stepping up from curb level to a real ledge haha.
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Front tails have always been my go to on every obstacle, although I did take a year off after breaking my ankle trying to get one down to regular on a hubba. Now I just know to take em to fakie. Except on a vert ramp. I've never gotten the balls to pull one back around from that high. Pools yes, because that coping sticks out farther and makes it a little easier, but a vert ramp with regular coping, I'll just point that nose down and come in regular.
Think about it like frontside grinds. You can do little scrappers and stay inside the ramp like doing a front side slash or, you can get up on top of it like a peter hewitt front side grind. I always ollied up into them to get on top on a vert ramp. Pools you can do more of a mellow scoop and push because going around a curve pulls you up on top. Look at how max schaff does his. That's how I figured it out.
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Used to have these on my box pretty consistently. Then one day I came out fakie leaning too far forward, bailed, and pushed my shoulder just about all the way out of the socket (but was able to pop it back in).
Haven't really fucked with 'em since.