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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GG_Allin
GG Allin (29 August 1956 – 28 June 1993) was a hardcore punk singer and bandleader who performed and recorded with many groups during his career.
He is best remembered for his notorious live performances that typically featured wildly transgressive acts such as Allin defecating onstage, committing self harm, performing naked, taunting people to perform fellatio on him, and violent actions towards the audience. Although more notorious for his stage antics than for his wide body of music, he recorded prolifically, not only in the punk rock genre, but also in spoken word, country and western and Rolling Stones-influenced rock.
By the mid to late 1980s, Allin was a heroin user, alcoholic, a heavy smoker and generally abused all intoxicants given to him. He was poorly groomed and rarely cleaned himself. At this point, Allin also began eating laxatives before performances as defecation, the drinking and eating of it was becoming a regular stage act for him. Allin described himself as "the last true rock and roller."
By this, he meant that rock and roll music itself had started as an embodiment of danger, anti-authoritarianism, rebelliousness but had become largely taken over by corporations and business concerns. Allin's music and performances were thus meant to return rock and roll to what he saw as its roots, reclaiming from the corporate system. Some of his supporters argue that he had a very valid point,especially with regard to corporate co-option.[citation needed]
Allin idolized country music legend Hank Williams, Sr, and saw himself as a kindred spirit. Both were relative loners and outsiders, both were habitual users of intoxicants, both lived with few, if any, possessions and both travelled the country relentlessly. GG Allin's acoustic output, documented particularly on the EP The Troubled Troubador, was heavily influenced by Williams. He recorded his own rewrites of Hank Williams, Jr.'s "Family Tradition" and David Allan Coe's "Longhaired Redneck", calling his own versions "Scumfuc Tradition" and "Outlaw Scumfuc" respectively. Later GG Allin also released another country album Carnival of Excess.
During this period, Allin collaborated with Bulge (aka Boston hardcore punk trio Psycho under a different name, on the album Freaks, Faggots, Drunks and Junkies), The Aids Brigade (the infamous 7" EP Expose Yourself To Kids) and The Holymen (You Give Love A Bad Name). Allin also began performing many spoken word pieces. Video footage of these are available but rare. It was during this period that Allin recorded his Murder Junkies album released by New Rose Records and featuring the band ANTiSEEN. This album contained 10 musical tracks and 10 spoken-word pieces. Other than Freaks, Faggots, Drunks and Junkies, Allin considered this album to be his most polished professionally recorded album that explored his persona and stated his philosophy on life. It was also during this period that Allin recorded the War In My Head - I'm Your Enemy album released on Awareness Records and featuring the band Shrinkwrap. This particular album consists of one 45 minute track that is a collage of spoken-word pieces which Shrinkwrap put to music.
Unwilling to seek steady employment, Allin supported himself by selling his own records. He also claimed to have committed criminal acts such as breaking and entering, robbery and mugging. Allin was also fascinated with serial killers. He wrote and visited John Wayne Gacy in jail a number of times and Gacy painted a portrait of Allin (see American Serial Killer Art).
By this point, Allin's performances, which often resulted in considerable damage to venues and sound equipment, were regularly stopped after only a few songs by police or venue owners. Allin was charged with assault and battery or indecent exposure a number of times. His constant touring was only stopped by jail time or by long hospital stays for broken bones, blood poisoning, and other trauma.
Another attraction to Allin performances was his continual threats of suicide. In 1988, Allin wrote to Maximum RocknRoll stating that he would commit suicide on stage on Halloween 1989. However, he was in jail when that day came. He continued his threat each following year but ended up imprisoned each following Halloween. When asked why he doesn't follow through with his threats, or sometimes his on-stage defecations, Allin stated, "With GG, you don't get what you expect—you get what you deserve." [7] He also stated that suicide should only be done when one had reached their peak, meeting the afterlife at their strongest point and not at their weakest. [8]
During the late 1980s and early 1990s, Allin's imprisonments became longer in duration. He served a particularly long sentence from (December 22, 1989 to March 26, 1991) after being charged with raping and torturing a woman in Ann Arbor, Michigan (he ultimately plead no contest to assault charges).
In a psychological evaluation made as part of the trial (see "clinical transcript" in external links), Allin was judged to be of at least average intelligence, and was described as "courteous, cooperative and candid." The unnamed evaluator noted that Allin did not appear psychotic, and appeared comfortable with his unorthodox lifestyle, but that he did have symptoms and behavior consistent with borderline personality disorder, masochism and narcissism.
In the trial, Allin asserted his innocence, claiming that the woman had participated of her own free will. There were also some facts in the case which might seem to support Allin's claim that the woman was an admiring fan who threw herself at him for publicity. As noted in the clinical report, the witness offered contradictory testimony to police, first claiming that she was attacked by three men. Only later did she accuse Allin.
It was during this confinement that Allin felt energized about his life and "mission" as he put it. He wrote the GG Allin Manifesto (1990) during this period. Meanwhile, Allin's growing notoriety led to appearances on Morton Downey, Jr., Geraldo, The Jerry Springer Show and a memorable episode of The Jane Whitney Show.
At the end of this period, Allin's appearance became definitive. He shaved his head, removed the middle of the moustache a la Genghis Khan, dyed his beard red and shaved his entire body. In addition, he was increasingly covered in poorly done, cheap 'home-made' tattoos and scars from his violent stage performances.
Despite threats of an onstage suicide, Allin died of a heroin overdose on 28 June 1993, in a friend's New York City apartment, at 29 Avenue B, Manhattan. He was 36 years old. His last show was at a small club called The Gas Station in New York City. Video footage of the soundcheck, concert, and aftermath is appended to the DVD release of Hated. In his last show he did a few songs before the power went out, after which he trashed the venue and walked the streets of New York naked and covered in blood and feces, surrounded by fans whom he openly embraced. On VH1's recent Freakiest Concert Moments, Allin's final show ranked at number four.
After arriving at his friend's apartment, Allin snorted heroin, eventually passing out. Some party-goers posed for photos with the unconscious Allin, not knowing that he was already dead. The next morning, some noticed that Allin still lay motionless in the same place where they had left him, and called for an ambulance, but Allin was pronounced dead at the scene.
At his funeral, Allin's bloated, discolored corpse was dressed in his black leather jacket and trademark jock strap. He had a bottle of Jim Beam beside him in his casket, as per his wishes (openly stated in his self-penned acoustic country ballad, "When I Die"). As part of his brother's request, the mortician was instructed not to wash the corpse, (which smelled strongly of feces), or apply any makeup. The funeral became a wild party. Friends posed with the corpse, put drugs and whiskey into its mouth, and pulled down the jock strap to take pictures of Allin's penis. As the funeral ended, his brother put a pair of headphones on Allin. The headphones were plugged into a portable cassette player, in which was loaded a copy of The Suicide Sessions. The video of his funeral is widely available for purchase, and is an extra feature on the Hated DVD and some bootleg VHS tapes.
At the time of his death, Allin was making plans for a spoken word album, and a somewhat unlikely European tour. Ironically, he was enthusiastically talking about them to a friend in the hours before his death.
GG Allin was buried July 3, 1993 in the Saint Rose Cemetery in Littleton, NH. A reunion is held each year, and fans are encouraged to come
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Hahaha SICK!
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simply put, gg allin shredded life.
i never dug the spoken word much though.
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Watched a docu on him a few months ago. Some of the people around him were even more tweaked than he was.
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anyone see him on springer, that shit was amazing
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here is is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LvZd_9aMU
Im 10 minuts into it and its the best clip ive ever seen!
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here is is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LvZd_9aMU
Im 10 minuts into it and its the best clip ive ever seen!
see, this should have been your only post for like a week. this one was actually decent. thank you.
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I caught the springer when it originally aired in the 90s. It's funny to me that he has had so much longevity. Most people I knew thought he was more of a novelty act like Gwar and were more impressed by his shit eating, drum stick in the ass antics than his music.
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that springer episode is hilarious. GG is pretty sick to skate to too
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anyone see the vid where he does his whole
cut head open with mic
shit on stage
eat it
throw shit in crowd
drum stick up the ass
and then he falls out in the crowd and no one is in the club?
Like the were warming up and he did the whole routine... Fucking funny shit
or the video where for his birthday they find a girl who will piss in his mouth and then he pukes on her ass while she is peeing and then starts to lick the puke off her ass.
shits funny, but guy was funny looney.
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anyone see the vid where he does his whole
cut head open with mic
shit on stage
eat it
throw shit in crowd
drum stick up the ass
and then he falls out in the crowd and no one is in the club?
Like the were warming up and he did the whole routine... Fucking funny shit
or the video where for his birthday they find a girl who will piss in his mouth and then he pukes on her ass while she is peeing and then starts to lick the puke off her ass.
shits funny, but guy was funny looney.
dude that video is fucking gross. I used to get skate with some cats that were into GG, they were twisted motherfuckers. they've now got a band called the minister of hate or something like that, it never caught on with me.
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a bunch of my friend went to a show in New Orleans. I think it was after the first time he said he was going to kill himself on stage but didn't follow through but was still claiming he would do it. I was so glad that I didn't go. My friends said the show didn't even make it through 1 song before a riot broke out and it was shut down. Apparently he didn't even have time to shit, which if you have seen his videos says a lot. Guy could shit in 2 seconds. Kind of impressive with the speed shitting skills. I think he was faster than my dog.
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I was reading an article, and he said when he and his brothers were kids, they used to sniff their mom's "crusty old, dirty panties"
he also said that his brother Merle sucked him off when they were kids :S
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for fans of his music, what's the best CD. Thinking about checking some out.
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for fans of his music, what's the best CD. Thinking about checking some out.
Get banned in Boston part 1, or get songs individually.
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isnt his real name Jesus?
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yes.
bite it you scum
out for blood
drink fight and fuck
expose yourself to kids
all those songs are worth a listen. his punk shit is the best of his works to me, but spoken word is just suspect anyways.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1El4xuKuI
That was entertaining. If you are interested, just keep watching till part 8.
You won't believe what kind of stupid people stand up and challenge the people on stage.
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for fans of his music, what's the best CD. Thinking about checking some out.
My favorite tune is "Die When You Die".
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for fans of his music, what's the best CD. Thinking about checking some out.
Always was, is and always shall be is good solid punk stuff. The rest of the stuff is real hit or miss.
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He was a victim of abuse, his dad dug graves in their basement and told them he was going to kill the whole family and bury them there. He was beaten a lot, his brother slipped him LSD with out telling him etc... not a shock he became what he did.
Funny story this girl I knew from Cleveland was pen pals with him and one tour he stopped by and hung out with her family and had dinner. After he left her mom said that he was one of the nicest friends she had ever had come to dinner.
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he just hated everything so much cause of his tiny weaner
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"You hate me and I hate you" Good song. Drehobl skated to it in a thrasher vid a couple years back.
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Glorified Sideshow Loser.
I have no idea how people buy into this shit.
It's crap. He didn't die fighting anything, or proving anything. He's the deadbeat punker that doesn't revolutionize anything. He never did anything that changed the world. He's a past tense MTV show for all I care.
I grew up in a city of punkers. You could differentiate the ones who "loved poetry, but loved anarchy", and the ones that "loved punk, but made movements".
God, not even Mike Vallely was this gay when he did spoken word.
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nobody was buying into shit, it's entertaining as fuck though.
oh you and your frailness, that was the probably the first post i've even wasted time reading of yours in a while.
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he also said that his brother Merle sucked him off when they were kids :S
that is precious.
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nobody was buying into shit, it's entertaining as fuck though.
oh you and your frailness, that was the probably the first post i've even wasted time reading of yours in a while.
You like Nuge. I was expecting a better person to reply to it.
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Glorified Sideshow Loser.
I have no idea how people buy into this shit.
It's crap. He didn't die fighting anything, or proving anything. He's the deadbeat punker that doesn't revolutionize anything. He never did anything that changed the world. He's a past tense MTV show for all I care.
I grew up in a city of punkers. You could differentiate the ones who "loved poetry, but loved anarchy", and the ones that "loved punk, but made movements".
God, not even Mike Vallely was this gay when he did spoken word.
he'd probably hit you really hard in the head and make you cry......................just my visual though
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Mike Vallely is tougher.
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"You hate me and I hate you" Good song. Drehobl skated to it in a thrasher vid a couple years back.
Unless he had another part I cant remeber, he skated to Bored To Death.
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"You hate me and I hate you" Good song. Drehobl skated to it in a thrasher vid a couple years back.
he skated don't talk to me too in free at last i think
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1El4xuKuI
Amazing video
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o1El4xuKuI
Amazing video
I posted that in the second page mother fucker! Noob, get a higher post count if you want to post shit like that. Go ollie!
Just kidding man, its just a mistake you made, and there is nothing wronf about making mistakes.
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word on the street is that GG used to live in the claremont lounge, a hotle right by this pizza place i always go to in atlanta, and he dated a stripper there and appearntly shes still there today. i wanna go talk to her but that place is crusty as fuck.
oh and yea his real original name was Jesus Allin Christ.
you guys ever see anything about his funeral? so sick, he was buried with ilke a bottle of jack and pills in his mouth and all this shit
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A lot of people are named Jesus.
A lot of people date strippers.
A lot of people deserve to die.
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c'mon man if your gonna make a shitty comeback like that, at least put it in the order mine was
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One time a stripper took my five dollar bill with her ass. The bill fell off and there was a brown spot on it.
Jesus would fold that bill up and put it in his wallet.
Anna Nicole Smith would have left a green spot on the bill.
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if you're gonna try and ruin a thread, atleast come up with something better than that. seriously.
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word on the street is that GG used to live in the claremont lounge, a hotle right by this pizza place i always go to in atlanta, and he dated a stripper there and appearntly shes still there today. i wanna go talk to her but that place is crusty as fuck.
oh and yea his real original name was Jesus Allin Christ.
you guys ever see anything about his funeral? so sick, he was buried with ilke a bottle of jack and pills in his mouth and all this shit
yeah, he was in his signature jock strap in his funeral, and his requests were not to be cleaned or given makeup. it was a sort of party. funerals shouldn't be meant to be upsetting or sad anyways.
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I'm pretty sure people are still celebrating him being dead.
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oh and yea his real original name was Jesus Allin Christ.
His brother Merle couldn't say Jesus, he pronounced it GG, thus the name.
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Brooklyn - Look you made your point you don't like GG. So now could you give it a rest please, your shenanigans with all the Nate stuff today are annoying enough.
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I think Avril Lavigne is kind of a continuation of GG Allins revolution.
She is one of the few people who know what real rock'n roll is. Thats just my opinion though.
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I think Avril Lavigne is king of a continuation of GG Allins revolution.
She is one of the few people who know what real rock'n roll is. Thats just my opinion though.
hah hah hah
haha
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Brooklyn - Look you made your point you don't like GG. So now could you give it a rest please, your shenanigans with all the Nate stuff today are annoying enough.
*finishes rice and beans and leaves the table in a huff*
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gnar x10
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"You hate me and I hate you" Good song. Drehobl skated to it in a thrasher vid a couple years back.
I'm pretty sure it was "Bored to Death" in Go For Broke (2002).
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"You hate me and I hate you" Good song. Drehobl skated to it in a thrasher vid a couple years back.
Yeah, you're right. My bad. I know "you hate me" was in some video though. 1984 Maybe? Anybody know?
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"You hate me and I hate you" Good song. Drehobl skated to it in a thrasher vid a couple years back.
Yeah, you're right. My bad. I know "you hate me" was in some video though. 1984 Maybe? Anybody know?
that Real video called Seeing Double used "fuck you" or "you hate me"
one of those two songs
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he makes very rad music but i would hate to see him live
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Bump this thread, I saw GG Allin in 1992 at North Georgia skate park the wall, it ended in cops coming but I was 12 or 13 somewhere in that timeline. The crew included myself Jason Calhoun, Brett Miller, Ozzy Alverez and a few other randoms. We skated the miniramp and watched in between sessions, nothing is funnier then watching that man jam the other bands mic up his ass.
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Bump this thread, I saw GG Allin in 1992 at North Georgia skate park the wall, it ended in cops coming but I was 12 or 13 somewhere in that timeline. The crew included myself Jason Calhoun, Brett Miller, Ozzy Alverez and a few other randoms. We skated the miniramp and watched in between sessions, nothing is funnier then watching that man jam the other bands mic up his ass.
Crazy he performed at a skate park never knew that
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for fans of his music, what's the best CD. Thinking about checking some out.
Always was, is and always shall be is good solid punk stuff. The rest of the stuff is real hit or miss.
Truth, plus No Rules 7" also essential.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA90eKSUTmk
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JUST WATCHED THAT LIVE READING HE DOES IN BOSTON WHERE BE BREAKS A BOTTLE OVER HIS HEAD AND THROWS IT IN THE CROWD
HIS BROTHER LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE WHO SOMEHOW HAS IT ALL TOGETHER BUT ALSO HAS A HITLER MUSTACHE
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Merle paints with his own shit and sadly tries to sell anything GG touched or pooped on
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Bump this thread, I saw GG Allin in 1992 at North Georgia skate park the wall, it ended in cops coming but I was 12 or 13 somewhere in that timeline. The crew included myself Jason Calhoun, Brett Miller, Ozzy Alverez and a few other randoms. We skated the miniramp and watched in between sessions, nothing is funnier then watching that man jam the other bands mic up his ass.
Crazy he performed at a skate park never knew that
I think it was well known he'd play any shithole that would have him, however as he torched NYC venues pretty much everyone hated/loved him as he ran each venue to the ground with his antics and later on in his career of fucking up he played pretty much where ever he was booked.
I later found out in the south there is a crew of bands with less than savory redneck anti PC rhetoric Antiseen and Limecell Confederacy of scum, the guy who booked him for that Dalton The Wall show was Jeff King not the built to shred guy but a Rob Zombie redneck type of dude.
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This popped up in my recommendations, hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0oDBJJ9kg
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If I had the chance, I would go to a gig with a few buddies and jump GG during a set. I think it'd be hilarious.
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Yeah I know it’s what he wanted, but I always hated this guy. His first album is the only decent stuff he did imo. I could never understand why my friends liked him. They used to say it’s because he was the most “punk” but my idea of punk was never about shitting on the floor.
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Yeah I know it’s what he wanted, but I always hated this guy. His first album is the only decent stuff he did imo. I could never understand why my friends liked him. They used to say it’s because he was the most “punk” but my idea of punk was never about shitting on the floor.
Yeah I liked his early Jabbers stuff where he tried to appeal to an MTV hype of pop punk but anything afterwards was well as they say, it is what is
I saw him when I was 12 or 13 he came to a skatepark and I stayed far away from him. My buddy who invited me initially we'd be little jerks and try to gross each other out while skating so after that show we were talking about the show and were like what the fuck was that dude on?! holy shit!!!! So as we're trying to gross each other out we had a shack under our ramp where we'd stash our booze and pornos to watch or what not we had some gals over to kick it so as we're trying gross out shit eating boogers and loogies and nasty food combinations my buddy ups the ante to fullblown GG status and shits in his hands and dares us to eat it so as we are all watching him holding this turd he gets real close as I bet him $20 he wouldn't lick it he turns it on us!!!
We all broke out the shack and ran inside with my buddy close behind holding his log he goes to throw it at us but instead half of it went on my mum's kitchen floor and the other half was streaking down the sliding glass door.
Needless to say I banned him from coming inside the house, we skated together for many many years afterwards, hell I got hooked up with a few boxes indy's and some Christian board company and a shop 2x because of him.
I guess people lose touch and time separates both people's ambition, I'd be civil but I'm not extending an olive branch.
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There is skate footage of GG out there. Its rare but he could do frontside rocks on vert
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There is skate footage of GG out there. Its rare but he could do frontside rocks on vert
thats total bull shit. He could barely bomb the hill to the package store.
GG could fucking roller skate down any hill in any conditions. Black ice? No fucking problem.
I bet he would have been the best pro ice hockey player ever or at least the most entertaining