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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: 360 frip on November 23, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
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Went skating with some kids from my school today. They have just started. So they don't know too much about skating. They're from pretty poor backgrounds, buying a board is pretty expensive for them. They went to the shop and both came back with Girl boards...
Poor bastards.
Even they could tell they were shit. Heavy. No flex and no pop.
It sucks that a skate team which is so well thought of peddles such shit. I was actually felt bad as one kid said "I feel like I've thrown my money in the sea"...
I really can't believe their pros ride their boards. I'm sure they could, but I would imagine they are riding boards from another factory.
It's all very well to take "the Lakai pledge" and support skater run brands etc. But could they take the skater pledge and stop churning out cheap shit?
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We've known that Girl puts out shitty wood product....
I remember reading somewhere that the pros for sure ride better boards than they sell because those China presses are out.
Maybe hook those kids up with some spare trash boards from the shop next time you see em?
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Anyone who doesn't like a board because it is too heavy, doesn't flex or have pop is moron. None of those three factors mean shit, especially for some kids that just started.
That being said, Girl wood is pretty awful and wears way too fast.
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the thread title had so much potential.
i hope that they go the way of lakai and up their quality (even though i have to say that i was pretty happy with the last 2 i had and didnt experience what you described.)
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the thread title had so much potential.
i hope that they go the way of lakai and up their quality (even though i have to say that i was pretty happy with the last 2 i had and didnt experience what you described.)
Yeah I've been skating only Girl/Choco boards for about the past 5 or 6 years. Never had unusual experiences and a crailtap board will last at the very least a month for me.
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I don't know about all that, but girl's shape definitely sucks shit. I don't want their weak little bitch nose and tail, I want a big ass anti hero nose! (Not frank gerwer's)
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where's the girl sucking ass?
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where's the girl sucking ass?
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real misleading thread title you got there
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I was pleasantly surprised that my first and only Girl deck held up pretty well.
The stubby tail sucked, especially when you start to wear it down and are left fighting for the pop that once came so easily, but It didn't handicap my skating at all, and I didn't notice any real issues with the overall quality of the wood itself.
I do prefer boards with more concave, though, and I don't think I will be riding another crailtap board unless I find one on sale.
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They are 50/50 for me. I've had two. One broke in six days and the other lasted a few months.
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i had a few girl boards probably... 5 or 6 years ago, and they were fine. i've been meaning to try to find an 8.375 girl board for some time now, if i ever come across one i'll most likely try it.
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Girl boards have too flat of a shape and all the ones I've had broke quickly. Not worth the money to me.
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i had a few girl boards probably... 5 or 6 years ago, and they were fine. i've been meaning to try to find an 8.375 girl board for some time now, if i ever come across one i'll most likely try it.
mostly all of Olson's boards are an 8.38
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I came in here expecting to see some babe siphoning some sphincter. I have been let down.
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Those who enter this thread here on after, shall not be disappointed...
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I have no problems with Girl.
I like the team. I like boards. I like the art.
Same goes for Chocolate.
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I came in here expecting to see some babe siphoning some sphincter. I have been let down.
Sorry for the misleading subject line. I guess I was generating their sense of let down.
Anyone who doesn't like a board because it is too heavy, doesn't flex or have pop is moron. None of those three factors mean shit, especially for some kids that just started.
That being said, Girl wood is pretty awful and wears way too fast.
So do you usually search out the heaviest soggy log in the shop? Good luck there genius.
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I don't know about all that, but girl's shape definitely sucks shit. I don't want their weak little bitch nose and tail, I want a big ass anti hero nose! (Not frank gerwer's)
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i think most of the pros skate those pop secret boards now, at least biebel was skating it at manny mania
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I was tempted to buy one of the BA art series ones, they look really sick but haven't had a girl in like 6 years.
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Every girl board i've ever had has been good and left me wanting to buy another.
I'm about to skate a new chocolate kenny anderson board and i'll see how that goes.
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proof:
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girl boards feel better than most shit out there. i think most of the people complaining about them feeling soggy and not snappy must not have ever skated a girl board cause id say its the complete opposite. pussies
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I was tempted to buy one of the BA art series ones, they look really sick but haven't had a girl in like 6 years.
I'd invest that money on a porn subscription
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they are good boards, nothing but good experiences with them
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Yeah their boards are all just regular wood in 7-ply. No tech at all like P2 in Habitat's or Element and their boards. Shame since they have the best team but the most average boards.
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I am quite sure they know their boards suck and press different ones for their team...
I had a few girl boards 6 or so years ago. They all broke skating flat before the second ply was worn through. I get it, how you land is a factor, but here they just felt super brittle, total shit compared to Dlx/generator. Being 6 ft 2 I know that I can gauge board quality better than someone a foot shorter than me. Chapman and generator are my boards of choice.
So, a Girl pro sent my good friend some of his personal boards, they are buddies. My friend blessed me with one because he doesn't skate anymore. It was probably the best board I ever skated. By the time I stopped skating the board it didn't even have stress cracks, and I only did stop riding it because my trucks, bearings, wheels were pretty shit so I bought a new complete. Still have the deck as backup.
If you are a board company, shouldn't it be your primary mission to provide your customers with the best quality board possible? Selling shit product to kids/shops and providing your team with top quality boards is pretty questionable.
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I am quite sure they know their boards suck and press different ones for their team...
I had a few girl boards 6 or so years ago. They all broke skating flat before the second ply was worn through. I get it, how you land is a factor, but here they just felt super brittle, total shit compared to Dlx/generator. Being 6 ft 2 I know that I can gauge board quality better than someone a foot shorter than me. Chapman and generator are my boards of choice.
So, a Girl pro sent my good friend some of his personal boards, they are buddies. My friend blessed me with one because he doesn't skate anymore. It was probably the best board I ever skated. By the time I stopped skating the board it didn't even have stress cracks, and I only did stop riding it because my trucks, bearings, wheels were pretty shit so I bought a new complete. Still have the deck as backup.
If you are a board company, shouldn't it be your primary mission to provide your customers with the best quality board possible? Selling shit product to kids/shops and providing your team with top quality boards is pretty questionable.
Well it works well from a business point of view. Although there probably aren't to many committed riders out there people still try Girl out at least once or twice. They make more money that way. Sucks but truth.
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If you are breaking decks skating flatground then that is likely your fault for not landing shit correctly unless you were skating a defect or an ebay blank.
What does your height have to do with the ability to judge the quality of a deck?
It seems to me that you have a problem landing your tricks
+I mean 6 years ago? How old were you? I definitely wouldn't put any stock into the opinion of a little kid who cant skate for shit and has trouble finding the bolts.
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Wow dude, are you alright? You only live once man, might as well try to make the most of it.
6 years ago I was 26 years old.
Height often equals weight, in that someone who is six foot two is usually heavier than someone who is five foot two. The logic follows that someone who is heavier than someone who is lighter could possibly judge the strength of a board with greater accuracy. I didn't think i would have to explain that concept in such detail. Obviously if one of these people is extremely fat or anorexic, that throws it off. But, on the days I don't skate, I go jogging, so that is not the case here.
I also rarely break boards, then or now. I usually buy new ones when they are dead and riddled with stress cracks, and this process usually takes a couple of months.
Also, if a board is of good quality, it should not break every time whomever is riding it does not land squarely on the bolts. Skating flat. There should be some wiggle room. My guess is that almost every skater knows this to be true.
I did mention the Girl boards felt very brittle. The only thing I could compare it to would be an enjoi board I bought at a highly discounted rate once upon a time. As mentioned, I prefer Chapman and Generator boards, they always treat me right.
Also, my point that you failed to deconstruct so intelligently as you did the rest of my post, was that the board that one of their pros sent to a friend of mine out of his personal board stash, who in turn passed it on to me, was easily one of the best boards I've ever had the pleasure of riding. The difference was remarkable and the wood was not the same. This could possibly suggest a few things. Namely, as a few other people in this thread suspected, they know they provide an inferior product, and therefore press different boards for their team than they do for the market. Which is lame. And that as such was my contribution to this thread.
Do I have any proof of this? No, just pure speculation based on experience.
Cheer up, man. Even if I did insult one of your favorite brands or something, at the end of the day, the question remains, who really cares and does this actually affect your life in any way what so ever?
Peace, may you find it now.
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Wow dude you seem like a pretty angry guy. Sorry for that. You only live once man, might as well try to make the most of it.
6 years ago I was 26 years old, if you really must know.
Height often equals weight, in that someone who is six foot two is usually heavier than someone who is five foot two. The logic follows that someone who is heavier than someone who is lighter could possibly judge the strength of a board with greater accuracy. I didn't think i would have to explain that concept in such detail, or i would have done so the first time. Obviously if one of these people is extremely fat or anorexic, that throws it off. But, on the days I don't skate, I go jogging, so that is not the case here.
I also rarely break boards, then or now. I usually buy new ones when they are dead and riddled with stress cracks, and this process usually takes a couple of months.
Also, if a board is of good quality, it should not break every time whomever is riding it does not land squarely on the bolts. Skating flat. There should be some wiggle room. Every skater knows this to be true.
I did mention the Girl boards felt very brittle. The only thing I could compare it to would be an enjoi board I bought at a highly discounted rate once upon a time. As mentioned, I prefer Chapman and Generator boards, they always treat me right.
Also, my point that you failed to deconstruct so intelligently as you did the rest of my post, was that the board that one of their pros sent to a friend of mine out of his personal board stash, who in turn passed it on to me, was easily one of the best boards I've ever had the pleasure of riding. The difference was remarkable and the wood was not the same. This could possibly suggest a few things. Namely, as a few other people in this thread suspected, they know they provide an inferior product, and therefore press different boards for their team than they do for the market. Which is lame. And that as such was my contribution to this thread.
Do I have any proof of this? No, just pure speculation based on experience.
Cheer up, man. Even if I did insult one of your favorite brands or something, at the end of the day, the question remains, who really cares and does this actually affect your life in any way what so ever?
Peace, may you find it now.
Hahahaha!
Talk about having an affect on someones life (CRYBABY BITCH! LOL)
+I was capable of comprehending your suggested logic, but I would argue that the taller that someone is the less balance they are likely to have on the board, thus causing more opportunities for sketchy landings and unbalanced weight distribution upon impact. (I'm 6'1, I know whats poppin').
+Of course a board shouldn't break on flat if it is new, but if you are a giant and are stomping the nose/tail you are going to fuck shit up regardless.
+Maybe Girl riders do use special decks, but your little story isn't very believable without any evidence to support such a claim.
+I wouldn't say that my Girl deck felt brittle at all. It leaned towards the soggy side if anything. I had a dwindle deck about a year ago and that shit was brittle as fuck and chipped numerous times while skating flatground.
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Wow dude, are you alright? You only live once man, might as well try to make the most of it.
6 years ago I was 26 years old.
Height often equals weight, in that someone who is six foot two is usually heavier than someone who is five foot two. The logic follows that someone who is heavier than someone who is lighter could possibly judge the strength of a board with greater accuracy. I didn't think i would have to explain that concept in such detail. Obviously if one of these people is extremely fat or anorexic, that throws it off. But, on the days I don't skate, I go jogging, so that is not the case here.
I also rarely break boards, then or now. I usually buy new ones when they are dead and riddled with stress cracks, and this process usually takes a couple of months.
Also, if a board is of good quality, it should not break every time whomever is riding it does not land squarely on the bolts. Skating flat. There should be some wiggle room. My guess is that almost every skater knows this to be true.
I did mention the Girl boards felt very brittle. The only thing I could compare it to would be an enjoi board I bought at a highly discounted rate once upon a time. As mentioned, I prefer Chapman and Generator boards, they always treat me right.
Also, my point that you failed to deconstruct so intelligently as you did the rest of my post, was that the board that one of their pros sent to a friend of mine out of his personal board stash, who in turn passed it on to me, was easily one of the best boards I've ever had the pleasure of riding. The difference was remarkable and the wood was not the same. This could possibly suggest a few things. Namely, as a few other people in this thread suspected, they know they provide an inferior product, and therefore press different boards for their team than they do for the market. Which is lame. And that as such was my contribution to this thread.
Do I have any proof of this? No, just pure speculation based on experience.
Cheer up, man. Even if I did insult one of your favorite brands or something, at the end of the day, the question remains, who really cares and does this actually affect your life in any way what so ever?
Peace, may you find it now.
I'm 6 foot 2 aswell and you cant really blame the board when you don't land proper whether it be flatground or not.
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despite all this cry baby bullshit, I'd like to point out that every company has pro decks, and retail decks. If that is something that upsets you, I suggest killing yourself now.
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Strike a pose, you win. My experiences have been rendered insignificant by your quick wit. That, and I didnt furnish enough hard evidence, as you pointed out.
Nydog, you are right, in so far as that I clearly played a large role in the board breaking, or to be more specific, cracking. In essence, I do expect a new board to make it through a few less than perfectly landed flat ground tricks. I have not had similar problems with other brands, or at all, since.
Shone, I like your moderate tone. I was simply sharing my experience to support your claim, although I may have been long winded in doing so.
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I love how girl and chocolate boards skate and feel. My buddy snapped one pretty easily but him and a bunch of other people skates them all the time without any problems
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I know a guy that skates mostly flat ground and ramps from what ive seen and he always rides girl/choco wood. He must find something quite cool or specifically desirable about them.
I bought a Brenes choco board when I was a young lad< and remember breaking it alot sooner than most of the other boards Id had up to that point. Then about a year ago, being 22 I decided to give them anpther shot, getting a Chocolate Marc johnson board from the shop I worked in at the time, it also broke,in two, after a few sessions.
From my limited experience with them, I havnt found them to be the best shaped boards AT ALL, and have broken them easily.
That is my opinion and experience with Girl and chocolate boards.
PS anyone remember in the big bonus footage montage on Yeah Right! that had MJ breaking (an already broken) board in two with his hands , and saying "so fucking tired of riding different boards man"
Although this isnt an admittance of shitty quality wood, this thread just brought that to my mind :)
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I know a guy that skates mostly flat ground and ramps from what ive seen and he always rides girl/choco wood. He must find something quite cool or specifically desirable about them.
I bought a Brenes choco board when I was a young lad< and remember breaking it alot sooner than most of the other boards Id had up to that point. Then about a year ago, being 22 I decided to give them anpther shot, getting a Chocolate Marc johnson board from the shop I worked in at the time, it also broke,in two, after a few sessions.
From my limited experience with them, I havnt found them to be the best shaped boards AT ALL, and have broken them easily.
That is my opinion and experience with Girl and chocolate boards.
PS anyone remember in the big bonus footage montage on Yeah Right! that had MJ breaking (an already broken) board in two with his hands , and saying "so fucking tired of riding different boards man"
Although this isnt an admittance of shitty quality wood, this thread just brought that to my mind :)
Tread very carefully when sharing your experiences based on personal experience. If your opinion does not align with that of someone who is perhaps both intolerant, uneducated and impulsive, your personal experiences and opinions will be declared invalid.
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I know a guy that skates mostly flat ground and ramps from what ive seen and he always rides girl/choco wood. He must find something quite cool or specifically desirable about them.
I bought a Brenes choco board when I was a young lad< and remember breaking it alot sooner than most of the other boards Id had up to that point. Then about a year ago, being 22 I decided to give them anpther shot, getting a Chocolate Marc johnson board from the shop I worked in at the time, it also broke,in two, after a few sessions.
From my limited experience with them, I havnt found them to be the best shaped boards AT ALL, and have broken them easily.
That is my opinion and experience with Girl and chocolate boards.
PS anyone remember in the big bonus footage montage on Yeah Right! that had MJ breaking (an already broken) board in two with his hands , and saying "so fucking tired of riding different boards man"
Although this isnt an admittance of shitty quality wood, this thread just brought that to my mind :)
Tread very carefully when sharing your experiences based on personal experience. If your opinion does not align with that of someone who is perhaps both intolerant, uneducated and impulsive, your personal experiences and opinions will be declared invalid.
Lmao
Keep cryin, faggot!
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For the record, new boards do tend to break the easiest.
They generally are stiff with no flex or give, and landing hard on the nose or tail with pressure where the baseplate meets deck can mean a ply or two has to give. Every time I see someone with a brand new broken deck they tend to have a stiffer style, or just went and hucked something off the nearest stair set or gap they found after setting up a new board.
The reason some of you have had a board for weeks to months and were impressed is because you tend to have a looser style, and gave your board a chance to break in a bit and gain some flex, decreasing your chances of a quick snap.
I'm big and have broken way too many boards first day over the years for not being warmed up and landing a bit off.
It's part of skating and doesn't always represent the quality of the board.
After all, we're the ones skating it. It didn't break on it's own.
Lower your expectations.
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For the record, new boards do tend to break the easiest.
They generally are stiff with no flex or give, and landing hard on the nose or tail with pressure where the baseplate meets deck can mean a ply or two has to give. Every time I see someone with a brand new broken deck they tend to have a stiffer style, or just went and hucked something off the nearest stair set or gap they found after setting up a new board.
The reason some of you have had a board for weeks to months and were impressed is because you tend to have a looser style, and gave your board a chance to break in a bit and gain some flex, decreasing your chances of a quick snap.
I'm big and have broken way too many boards first day over the years? for not being warmed up and landing a bit off.
It's part of skating and doesn't always represent the quality of the board.
After all, we're the ones skating it. It didn't break on it's own.
Lower your expectations.
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Haha.
Yep. Irrelevant shit...
And it doesn't count, I suppose...
c'mon crailtap, step up. bitches.
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Girl Boards are just sugar coated. They use really shitty wood then stain them with pretty bright colors, and add an extra glossy finish with a colorful graphic.
They have a good shap but the tail and nose are too stubby i prefer AWS with a big nose and just slightly smaller tail
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Well, all im gonna say is that theres a reason you see crailtap dudes riding anti hero boards......
Crailtap shapes are good but the woods just shitty. If you do lots of low impact stuff and slappys you should be asking about truck quality and deck shape instead. You could probably skate a wal-mart board and be fine as long as the trucks come correct. But if youre going bigger or faster i cant really back it. crailtap decks snap like twigs. I dont know what mccrank or malto skate but its definitely not this shit.
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For the record, new boards do tend to break the easiest.
They generally are stiff with no flex or give, and landing hard on the nose or tail with pressure where the baseplate meets deck can mean a ply or two has to give. Every time I see someone with a brand new broken deck they tend to have a stiffer style, or just went and hucked something off the nearest stair set or gap they found after setting up a new board.
The reason some of you have had a board for weeks to months and were impressed is because you tend to have a looser style, and gave your board a chance to break in a bit and gain some flex, decreasing your chances of a quick snap.
I'm big and have broken way too many boards first day over the years for not being warmed up and landing a bit off.
It's part of skating and doesn't always represent the quality of the board.
After all, we're the ones skating it. It didn't break on it's own.
Lower your expectations.
That's interesting to me. I snap a pretty inordinate percentage of new boards, and yet the thought never occurred to me that it wasn't necessarily the wood being shitty, but that maybe my dumb ass just always snaps newer boards because they're brittle and not broken in yet. I'll definitely take that into consideration in the future.
And for the record, I don't skate Girl wood. I'm just hanging out here.
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i have seen alot of guys on crailtap NOT riding crailtap very often. mostly the new guys and brian anderson.
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Like you fucks have a finger on the Girl and Chocolate team's pulse. You can get a board from a homie if you need one, doesn't mean you're not riding your own boards. I'm surprised there wasn't a "Guy on Alien" thread after that sequence in Thrasher...
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girl boards are good if you don't way much
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hey dave a long time ago you posted some action sports quarterly sales graph which showed board sales. any chance we could get an updated version of that somehow?
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i have seen alot of guys on crailtap NOT riding crailtap very often. mostly the new guys and brian anderson.
Brian Anderson barely even skates anymore, so I don't know if that is a valid indicator of quality.
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strange, but for a long period of time i would skate nothing but chocolate decks, after skating them for so long i tried out a girl deck and it was terrible, went back to a chocolate and i noticed a huge difference.
anyone else get that ever?