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[Nick..]

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

[Nick..]

Leafs acquire Jonathan Bernier from LA for Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens, and a 2nd round pick in either 2014 or 2015 (Leafs choice).

[thugnificent]

that seems like a pretty stupid trade. reimer was their best player in the playoffs and now hes gonna be there back up?

[Buddha]

Scrivens was an amazing goalie with the marlies,  I feel like he didn't get a chance live up to his potential with the leafs and now he's going to be a perma back up goalie in LA.  I hope he gets a starting job eventually.  Bernier looks like a talented goal tender from what i've seen, probably too talented to be a back up as well.   Reimer was actually very good this year, it was the defense that was a bit lacking.  Should be interesting next year.   I know most here probably don't pay attention to the AHL but Dallas Eakins from the Toronto Marlies is now on as coach of the Edmonton Oilers.  He runs a tight ship, Edmonton fans should expect to see a turn around next year.  He took the marlies to the second round of the playoffs this year after half his team got bumped up and having only rent-a-goalies to work with.   

[Nick..]

Reimer no doubt in my mind is still the #1 considering the Leafs wouldn't have made the playoffs or gone as far as they did against Boston without him. Bernier is there to challenge him for that #1 spot, which could motivate Reimer to play even better. I'll miss Frattin and I think he'll become an even better player on LA, but Bernier is a definite upgrade over Scrivens with more potential as his stats are identical to Reimer's, but with less games played on a much better team.


With Eakins, I think Edmonton can do better because he's really good at working with younger players, but they will still suck until they get better defensemen and goaltending.

[j....soy.....]

I think getting Bernier in was a safe bet...they didn't give up too much....goalies can take awhile to pan out, so now they have two guys who can challenge.....itll drive fans nuts figuring out who the starter is though....getting Louie would make them immediately more competitive but could be a mess in a couple years....

The Canucks getting Torts is the best thing we've done since getting Messier....

[raunchyrick]

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

[Nick..]

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

I'm not, mainly because these new divisions are fucking stupid. They couldn't just move the Thrash... I mean Jets (pretty much the same team) to the West and move one of Detroit or Columbus to the East, not both?

[Makaveli]

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

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first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

[oyolar]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

What a ridiculous comeback.

[Nick..]

Considering Boston blew it with the Cup on the line, and that most people expected Boston to sweep them due to the fact they're young and inexperienced, this makes me feel better. Karma's a bitch.

[zoltan]

Considering Boston blew it with the Cup on the line, and that most people expected Boston to sweep them due to the fact they're young and inexperienced, this makes me feel better. Karma's a bitch.

the blackhawks are just lucky sons of bitches. im suprised they made it passed detroit, and even more suprised they made it to game 6 with the bruins... The bruins definately dominated that game. i feel terrible for them

[oyolar]

Boston dominated the first period because they were desperate, but that can't last you the entire game.

EDIT: And to say that the Hawks were merely lucky is just not true.  They played hard this game (and the entire series), which is evident in the fact that despite Boston dominating, they kept them at 1. 

[Beeda Weeda]

the hawks scored more goals than boston. It was a very good series.  glad hockey is over, i like going to bed early.

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

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first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

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you're tripping. we're talking about a guy who is responsible for assembling those great oilers teams in the 80s, trading the great one away, and being right about doing so. since he join nyr, the franchise has turned around and become a legitimate cup contender under his management. i guess you columbus fans really are still in shock after the nash trade, but you guys got fleeced. the fucking gm who pulled the trigger on that trade got canned. then, sather fleeced you guys again. gabs for brass would've been and even trade, but then we got two excellent young players on top of that. idk in what world that equals columbus winning on the deal.

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

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first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

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you're tripping. we're talking about a guy who is responsible for assembling those great oilers teams in the 80s, trading the great one away, and being right about doing so. since he join nyr, the franchise has turned around and become a legitimate cup contender under his management. i guess you columbus fans really are still in shock after the nash trade, but you guys got fleeced. the fucking gm who pulled the trigger on that trade got canned. then, sather fleeced you guys again. gabs for brass would've been and even trade, but then we got two excellent young players on top of that. idk in what world that equals columbus winning on the deal.

you're talking about shit that happened in the 80's like its relevant, what has he done lately? m not even a columbus fan, but they went from last place to 9th place, and new york did worse this year than they did last year. is that what you call winning a trade?

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

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first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

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you're tripping. we're talking about a guy who is responsible for assembling those great oilers teams in the 80s, trading the great one away, and being right about doing so. since he join nyr, the franchise has turned around and become a legitimate cup contender under his management. i guess you columbus fans really are still in shock after the nash trade, but you guys got fleeced. the fucking gm who pulled the trigger on that trade got canned. then, sather fleeced you guys again. gabs for brass would've been and even trade, but then we got two excellent young players on top of that. idk in what world that equals columbus winning on the deal.

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you're talking about shit that happened in the 80's like its relevant, what has he done lately? m not even a columbus fan, but they went from last place to 9th place, and new york did worse this year than they did last year. is that what you call winning a trade?

they went from first to sixth because they got no contributions from brad richards and gaborik. again, you do not know enought about hockey. anyways, columbus got 9th because of the goalie, no one else, in fact thats why they only got 9th, bc no one, even they guys they got from the rangers, contributed. end of day, they missed playoffs, rangers didnt. rangers win trade. dumbass.

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

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first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

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you're tripping. we're talking about a guy who is responsible for assembling those great oilers teams in the 80s, trading the great one away, and being right about doing so. since he join nyr, the franchise has turned around and become a legitimate cup contender under his management. i guess you columbus fans really are still in shock after the nash trade, but you guys got fleeced. the fucking gm who pulled the trigger on that trade got canned. then, sather fleeced you guys again. gabs for brass would've been and even trade, but then we got two excellent young players on top of that. idk in what world that equals columbus winning on the deal.

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you're talking about shit that happened in the 80's like its relevant, what has he done lately? m not even a columbus fan, but they went from last place to 9th place, and new york did worse this year than they did last year. is that what you call winning a trade?

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they went from first to sixth because they got no contributions from brad richards and gaborik. again, you do not know enought about hockey. anyways, columbus got 9th because of the goalie, no one else, in fact thats why they only got 9th, bc no one, even they guys they got from the rangers, contributed. end of day, they missed playoffs, rangers didnt. rangers win trade. dumbass.

And who was the guy responsible for signing Gaborik and Richards in the first place? Sather. I wouldn't call 8 points in 12 games for Gaborik, 20 points in 28 games for Dubinsky, 18 in 35 for Anisimov (he did miss time with a concussion) nothing. Nash, Dorsett and Moore did jack shit in the playoffs while the only guy who gave a shit was Brassard, who only had 18 points in 34 games with Columbus (close to Anisimov, if you didn't notice.) Columbus missed the playoffs by ONE POINT, and the oh so mighty Rangers got manhandled by the Bruins in the second round, who barely got passed the first round and only did because the Leafs inexperience and sloppy play let them get there.

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Holmgren is the worst GM in the league. I can't believe they traded away the Vezina winning goaltender, and signed Brzygalov to a 30 year deal

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the bob never came up when it mattered while in philly. shit even in columbus they still missed the playoffs.

whoever was columbus' last gm and the one they have now are both pretty sorry. they let the rangers fleece them twice in one year.

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Bobrovsky was a large reason why Columbus surged up the standings and they became somewhat relevant. Hell, they only missed the playoffs by a point because Minnesota edged them out at the end. Gaborik also did very well once he got traded there and playing in Todd Richards' system again (he coached the Wild when Gaborik was there.)


I wouldn't call Jarmo Kekalainen (the GM) sorry either considering he's going into the draft with three first round picks (from trading Carter and Nash) while having their own pick; meaning he could trade any one of those picks for a player that can address their needs. Just personal opinion.

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if i remember correctly, Gaborik had six points in like 15 games with them? i know brassard out performed him post trade. that and the fact that they gave up two other players, john moore is going to be good, columbus lost out on that trade. gaborik is past his prime, they gave up youth to get an over the hill guy. also, first round draft picks dont mean anything. look what they did with brassard, they couldnt develop him correctly. i think the rangers' ryan callahan was a sixth round pick, right?

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Gaborik had 8 points in 12 games for the Jackets, Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick (127th overall) and Columbus' defence core is solid with guys like Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, etc. The Jackets also got Tim Erixon, a good young guy to offset the loss of Moore.

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Let's not forget the offensive force of Johnathan Audy-Marchessault, Cam Atkinson, and Matt Calvert Was great seeing those guys play in Springfield, excited to see them in the eastern conference next year.

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first off, nyr got the better end on the nash trade. to say otherwise shows you do not know enough about hockey. erixon is most likely a bust, stu bickel got more playing time than him in ny, dubi is high-risk for injury, and artie is an amazing player, but no rick nash.

gaborik is on his way out, he played his best games already. brassard, who will never be what gaborik was, will still be a great player, better than gaborik is going to be for the blue jackets. that alone is worth the trade, but nyr addressed defensive needs with someone who is going to be pretty good, and got some grit with dorsett. believe me yo, glen sather knows what he's doing.

all you guys are hopping on this blue jackets bandwagon, but you forget that they missed the playoffs even with the best goalie in the league. they fucking suck. go rangers!

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you're tripping. we're talking about a guy who is responsible for assembling those great oilers teams in the 80s, trading the great one away, and being right about doing so. since he join nyr, the franchise has turned around and become a legitimate cup contender under his management. i guess you columbus fans really are still in shock after the nash trade, but you guys got fleeced. the fucking gm who pulled the trigger on that trade got canned. then, sather fleeced you guys again. gabs for brass would've been and even trade, but then we got two excellent young players on top of that. idk in what world that equals columbus winning on the deal.

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you're talking about shit that happened in the 80's like its relevant, what has he done lately? m not even a columbus fan, but they went from last place to 9th place, and new york did worse this year than they did last year. is that what you call winning a trade?

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they went from first to sixth because they got no contributions from brad richards and gaborik. again, you do not know enought about hockey. anyways, columbus got 9th because of the goalie, no one else, in fact thats why they only got 9th, bc no one, even they guys they got from the rangers, contributed. end of day, they missed playoffs, rangers didnt. rangers win trade. dumbass.

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And who was the guy responsible for signing Gaborik and Richards in the first place? Sather. I wouldn't call 8 points in 12 games for Gaborik, 20 points in 28 games for Dubinsky, 18 in 35 for Anisimov (he did miss time with a concussion) nothing. Nash, Dorsett and Moore did jack shit in the playoffs while the only guy who gave a shit was Brassard, who only had 18 points in 34 games with Columbus (close to Anisimov, if you didn't notice.) Columbus missed the playoffs by ONE POINT, and the oh so mighty Rangers got manhandled by the Bruins in the second round, who barely got passed the first round and only did because the Leafs inexperience and sloppy play let them get there.

Both of your arguments fall short on one huge fact: Columbus missed the playoffs, New York made the playoffs. No matter how you want to spin it, New York had more success this season, and therefore, won the fucking trade. Also, the Bruins went on to win the East and were 1:16 from a game seven. So, the fact that you're ripping on the Bruins shows that you also don't know much about hockey. I never called the Rangers mighty, but god, they are ten times better than Columbus. You will see that when they kill them next season.

Also, rumors have it that the Bob might not even resign with the Blue Jackets, choosing the KHL. Anisimov, too. Again, these are only rumors. Also Philly is buying out Bryz. That's fact.

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seriously shut the fuck up, they won the trade because they made the playoffs? what the fuck is wrong with you

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Also, Columbus finished the season with 55 points, New York finished with 56. Columbus actually tied Minnesota (who came 8th) but they only missed the playoffs because Minnesota only had TWO more wins than Columbus..

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seriously shut the fuck up, they won the trade because they made the playoffs? what the fuck is wrong with you

ahahaha! wtf are you tripping for? we're talking about a trade here, every trade has a winner and loser. the only way to measure that is through the success of the team. the winning team in the trade has more success than the team that lost the trade. playoff team vs. non-playoff team. who is more successful? what's wrong with you?

there is literally no stat that you can pull that will prove columbus won either of these trades.

the first one went over so well with the owner that he fired the guy who made the move. the next one helped one team get over the hump and make the playoffs and failed to improve the other. idk wtf is so hard understand. you guys are dumb, really dumb.

sather fleeced columbus twice, its a fact. dubi's one goal and 19 assist is worthless, didnt do shit for the team, artie might not even resign, and erixon has not proven a damn thing. gabs is banged up and past his prime. rangers got nash, a superstar in his prime, then brassard, a guy's whose future contributions will outweigh gaboriks, john fucking moore who is gonna be sick, and then derek dorsett, a pretty good enforcer who can also score. columbus got two of ny's third-liners that columbus used as first-liners and an over the hill gaborik. that is not an equal trade at all.

you guys must be smokin sherm.

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Also, Columbus finished the season with 55 points, New York finished with 56. Columbus actually tied Minnesota (who came 8th) but they only missed the playoffs because Minnesota only had TWO more wins than Columbus..

again, more proof that nyr did better than columbus.

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Also, Columbus finished the season with 55 points, New York finished with 56. Columbus actually tied Minnesota (who came 8th) but they only missed the playoffs because Minnesota only had TWO more wins than Columbus..

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again, more proof that nyr did better than columbus.

HOW? THEY FINISHED BETTER BY ONE FUCKING POINT IN AN EASIER CONFERENCE!

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Also, Columbus finished the season with 55 points, New York finished with 56. Columbus actually tied Minnesota (who came 8th) but they only missed the playoffs because Minnesota only had TWO more wins than Columbus..

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again, more proof that nyr did better than columbus.

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HOW? THEY FINISHED BETTER BY ONE FUCKING POINT IN AN EASIER CONFERENCE!

keep smokin that sherm, fool

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Also, Columbus finished the season with 55 points, New York finished with 56. Columbus actually tied Minnesota (who came 8th) but they only missed the playoffs because Minnesota only had TWO more wins than Columbus..

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again, more proof that nyr did better than columbus.

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HOW? THEY FINISHED BETTER BY ONE FUCKING POINT IN AN EASIER CONFERENCE!

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keep smokin that sherm, fool

You're the one on drugs if you think the Rangers won a trade because they made the playoffs by ONE POINT in an easier conference.

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Also, Columbus finished the season with 55 points, New York finished with 56. Columbus actually tied Minnesota (who came 8th) but they only missed the playoffs because Minnesota only had TWO more wins than Columbus..

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again, more proof that nyr did better than columbus.

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HOW? THEY FINISHED BETTER BY ONE FUCKING POINT IN AN EASIER CONFERENCE!

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keep smokin that sherm, fool

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You're the one on drugs if you think the Rangers won a trade because they made the playoffs by ONE POINT in an easier conference.

first off, the east and west are even as fuck. look at the points in relation to the standings. 7th and 8th in both had as many points. 4th seed in east had more than in west. chicago is by far the best team, you have that. but boston was a few bad goals from winning their second cup in the past few years.

the fucking reason they made the second trade was so each team could address their issues and get over the hump and get into the playoffs. one team made the playoffs, one team didnt. if you dont recognize the reason why they made the trade, you cannot identify who won.

the nash trade is clearly a fleecing. we're talking about a superstar traded for two depth players with injury issues that were out of ny anyways, and an unproven d-man, who is on his third nhl team without even 100 games under his belt. the guy is a bust. thats a fleecing. totally lopsided. the fucking columbus owner recognized this as a bad trade on their part and FIRED the GM who made the trade.

are you still going to argue this?

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the rangers did better last year without nash than they did this year with nash, that is an indisputable fact

the blue jackets did better this year without nash than they did last year with nash, also an indisputable fact

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the rangers did better last year without nash than they did this year with nash, that is an indisputable fact

the blue jackets did better this year without nash than they did last year with nash, also an indisputable fact

the rangers made the playoffs, the blue jackets missed the playoffs, an indisputable fact

you know that the reasons both of these teams performances were different had nothing to do with the nash trade. columbus had the best goalie in the league, thats the only reason they got where they did. the rangers obviously over-achieved last year and they obviously under-achieved this year, mainly due to the embarrassing showings by richards and gaborik and poor coaching by tortorella.

how about this, rick nash scored alsmot twice as many goals and almost as many assist as the three players he was traded for, another indisputable fact.