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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Surf The Earth on February 11, 2021, 11:16:53 AM
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Whats some stuff you really want but either does not exist, or has not been released
For Me:
Forged Titanium Aces
60mm Conical Fulls
Waffle Cup Half Cabs
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Ventures with a slightly softer metal, 5.6/5.8 lows with a inverted kingpin.
Generator boards 8.25-8.5 with a wheelbase between 14.25-14.38, 14.31ish maybe
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Aces with an inverted kingpin ;D
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venture 5.6 low
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
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A vans court shoe that actually goes to shops more than one season
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
Only in dreams. The last General Release was probably the orange Corduroy dunks back in 2019. Now they are being sold for $450 and go straight to a rich white kid's plastic box. Nike fucking up big time though...
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Adidas Indoor Super inspired skate shoe permanently in the Adidas Skate line
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
Only in dreams. The last General Release was probably the orange Corduroy dunks back in 2019. Now they are being sold for $450 and go straight to a rich white kid's plastic box. Nike fucking up big time though...
Yep, it sucks big time. Last pair I skated was the dark grey and black low tops (with gum bottom of the sole) and I still have a pair of the Nuggets NBA collab high tops that are almost like new, probably gonna get to skating them (or at least wear them more than twice) sometime.
THEY TUK ERR DUNKS (https://imgflip.com/i/4xo9js)
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Replacement part for skate tools. I long for my ol’ sentimental reflex tool to have a screw driver and allen key once again.
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venture 5.6 low
Ventures with a slightly softer metal, 5.6/5.8 lows with a inverted kingpin.
Generator boards 8.25-8.5 with a wheelbase between 14.25-14.38, 14.31ish maybe
I was musing to myself about this last night on my way home from work. I've tried going back to lows (5.2s on an 8.25") multiple times in the past few years but I just can't deal with the lack of KP clearance.
I emailed DLX about a year ago asking if there were any plans for a 5.6 low and they gave me a non-answer.
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Nike Sb reissues of some of their weirder classics like the E-cue and the Url, hell maybe even a revamped Savier model (one of the more "tasteful" Saviers of course) and a TRUE reissue of the old Sb FC - I had a pair of the FCs when I was a kid when they first started making them and I'll never forget how much better they felt compared to everything else I skated when I was 15/16. They felt slim in a nice way, still had padding, and this is kind of stupid but I loved the way the old soles looked.
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Crail boards on good wood :-\
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I want to start a hardware company that makes thinner nylock nuts for the axles of trucks. The idea would be that you could put more speed washers on your axle between the truck and wheel and with the smaller thinner nylock nut, you could essentially widen the width between your wheels on your trucks.
For example:
Standard Hardware: You can use Ace 44 (8.38) axle with an 8.38 board with standard hardware and your wheels are flush.
Custom Hardware: Ace 44 (8.38) axle with an 8.5 board and have to make up that .12 inch (3mm). Use 4 speed washers on each side of the wheel and use the thinner nylock nut and you make up that 3mm
No need to change the trucks for slightly different shaped boards. It could also make more skaters try the next size up deck without buying new trucks for the settup
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An Ace truck that comes in at 8.75” wide would be sweet.
At least I can dream.
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Nike Sb reissues of some of their weirder classics like the E-cue and the Url, hell maybe even a revamped Savier model (one of the more "tasteful" Saviers of course) and a TRUE reissue of the old Sb FC - I had a pair of the FCs when I was a kid when they first started making them and I'll never forget how much better they felt compared to everything else I skated when I was 15/16. They felt slim in a nice way, still had padding, and this is kind of stupid but I loved the way the old soles looked.
Definitely agreed. Would love a re-issue of P-rod 2s or the air classic sb as well.
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&& signature helmet with detachable hair included
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
This is the first thing I thought of as well. Three general release non-SB dunks come out next Thursday. I hope me posting that doesn’t hurt my chances of getting a pair. Bots will probably get them all anyway though.
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I want to start a hardware company that makes thinner nylock nuts for the axles of trucks. The idea would be that you could put more speed washers on your axle between the truck and wheel and with the smaller thinner nylock nut, you could essentially widen the width between your wheels on your trucks.
Like these?
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0016/7159/4019/products/ti69-1_720x.jpg?v=1569269423)
https://www.acerracing.com/collections/titanium-skate-hardware/products/5-16-24-titanium-skateboard-wheel-nuts-4-pieces
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An Ace truck that comes in at 8.75” wide would be sweet.
At least I can dream.
Pretty sure that's coming around April 2021
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I want to start a hardware company that makes thinner nylock nuts for the axles of trucks. The idea would be that you could put more speed washers on your axle between the truck and wheel and with the smaller thinner nylock nut, you could essentially widen the width between your wheels on your trucks.
For example:
Standard Hardware: You can use Ace 44 (8.38) axle with an 8.38 board with standard hardware and your wheels are flush.
Custom Hardware: Ace 44 (8.38) axle with an 8.5 board and have to make up that .12 inch (3mm). Use 4 speed washers on each side of the wheel and use the thinner nylock nut and you make up that 3mm
No need to change the trucks for slightly different shaped boards. It could also make more skaters try the next size up deck without buying new trucks for the settup
I search Tacoma Screw for such a thing and, as far as I can tell, it doesn't exist. I considered grinding down a standard nyloc for this purpose, but ultimately I gave up on my quest
Seconding those titanium Ace trucks, or at least Ace with a lighter baseplate and hollow kingpin, like Indy does. I suspect that this sort of product could appear over time, as Ace continues to grow
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Thunders with a longer baseplate.
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(1) A Thunder option that...
-had a longer baseplate
-shorter WB / turned better
-53mm high
(2) Ace trucks that...
-came in standard sizes (8.25, 8.5, 8.75, etc.)
-didn't weigh so much and/or hollow/titanium versions
(3) Indys that...
-were svelte and light like Thunders
(4) DLX Full shapes but with their standard wheelbases
(5) Vans to make Sk8-HIs in the OG light blue / navy colors
(6) F4 Lock-Ins with a smaller riding surface
(7) All F4s to also come in 97a.
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Stickers with a slicked surface or another flat/slick material to place under wheel wells to help reduce wheelbite.
Nike SB lunarlon insoles.
Another run of Nike SB Project BAs.
Volcom modern stretch chinos in white.
Vans pro aftermarket insoles with a few more mm in the forefoot to ease the high arch and make up for the thin sole.
Not skating related but an all-tool to remove stubborn wall anchors would be nice.
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Non-sweatshop skate shoes
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Burgundy Half Cab pros with the black tongue.
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Burgundy Half Cab pros with the black tongue.
They made a non pro just regular half cab pair in 2016 or 2017 and I wanted them bad but they I never saw them in a shop I think I would of had to buy them of the vans site because that was the only place I ever saw them but I regret not getting them
(https://i.imgur.com/GvKYGGnl.png)
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bones wheel that's in between skatepark and street formula, in different duros, maybe 103 101 and 99.
i think the seperate formulas approach is kinda outdated.
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more boards with sub 6.5" tails.
love the pop on a short tail
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Polar 8.5 popsicles and p2 shape with sub 14.25 WB.
Converse making a skate version of the pro leather high top.
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Nike Sb reissues of some of their weirder classics like the E-cue and the Url, hell maybe even a revamped Savier model (one of the more "tasteful" Saviers of course) and a TRUE reissue of the old Sb FC - I had a pair of the FCs when I was a kid when they first started making them and I'll never forget how much better they felt compared to everything else I skated when I was 15/16. They felt slim in a nice way, still had padding, and this is kind of stupid but I loved the way the old soles looked.
The Tim o'connor savier was really clean looking.
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Polar 8.5 popsicles and p2 shape with sub 14.25 WB.
Converse making a skate version of the pro leather high top.
They did those Hopps collabs a few years ago and there are still some floating around. They were the first Cons I bought and I had no idea how the sizing was so they were waaaay to big.
https://www.escapistskateboarding.com/converse-cons-x-hopps-pro-leather-mid-black-white.html (https://www.escapistskateboarding.com/converse-cons-x-hopps-pro-leather-mid-black-white.html)
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I want to start a hardware company that makes thinner nylock nuts for the axles of trucks. The idea would be that you could put more speed washers on your axle between the truck and wheel and with the smaller thinner nylock nut, you could essentially widen the width between your wheels on your trucks.
Like these?
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0016/7159/4019/products/ti69-1_720x.jpg?v=1569269423)
https://www.acerracing.com/collections/titanium-skate-hardware/products/5-16-24-titanium-skateboard-wheel-nuts-4-pieces
Yeah exactly! that with the right sized washers in a kit
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(http://www.saltypeaks.com/pi/p8821-Blackhole.jpg)
bring these back
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P2 boards
Single shoes to replace the pair that is ripped up
VX + Everslicks
Replacmemt baseplates
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Polar 8.5 popsicles and p2 shape with sub 14.25 WB.
Converse making a skate version of the pro leather high top.
Shorter polar 8.5 but still the same shape would be amazing.
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Everything list so far, especially the Thunder/Indy tweaks (FFS how hard could it be to trim that Indy yoke down, everyone else can fucking do it)...Also, I lined up forged Venture/thunder plates and man, the length difference is in-sane.
VX + Everslicks
RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-czj9fRHh4
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Sub 50mm formula fours
Shorter deck rails, so you don’t hit a rail when you wheelbite
High melting point wax for (Phoenix) summers
Ace hollows/lights with inverted kingpins
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High melting point wax for PEROID
My wax gets all flaccid mid session.
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Non-sweatshop skate shoes
You can get Last Resort AB
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Truck baseplates with recesses for the nut, so you don't need a spanner to tighten them.
Fury used to have this, and it's such a great feature from a product design point of view.
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Truck baseplates with recesses for the nut, so you don't need a spanner to tighten them.
Fury used to have this, and it's such a great feature from a product design point of view.
Except that screwing in from the top bunches up the griptape.
I remember also seeing either nuts or special washers below the nuts that had like a prong that grabbed the side of the baseplate to hold them in place when screwing.
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Spacers that actually fit. F4 radial slims with a different, cleaner graphic.
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Non-sweatshop skate shoes
Last Resort AB makes their shoes in Vietnam. There was an interview some months before the first LR drop that made it really sound as if they were going to be made in Portugal but that isn't the case.
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Non-sweatshop skate shoes
Last Resort AB makes their shoes in Vietnam. There was an interview some months before the first LR drop that made it really sound as if they were going to be made in Portugal but that isn't the case.
Damn, I really thought that they were produced in Portugal hence the higher price
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A David Clark pro board
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Last Resort AB makes their shoes in Vietnam. There was an interview some months before the first LR drop that made it really sound as if they were going to be made in Portugal but that isn't the case.
nope that was the original intent but not doable to launch. Even still, the presentation materials construction and fit & finish are a step above your typical skate shoe
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May have already been mentioned but storage boxes made for skate shit.
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Last Resort AB makes their shoes in Vietnam. There was an interview some months before the first LR drop that made it really sound as if they were going to be made in Portugal but that isn't the case.
I have no problem buying an Asian-made shoe, provided that the workers are treated well, have benefits, the right to unionize, etc.
I’d like to know more about the factory Arto chose.
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Non-sweatshop skate shoes
Last Resort AB makes their shoes in Vietnam. There was an interview some months before the first LR drop that made it really sound as if they were going to be made in Portugal but that isn't the case.
I have no problem buying an Asian-made shoe, provided that the workers are treated well, have benefits, the right to unionize, etc.
I’d like to know more about the factory Arto Pontus chose.
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Vegan half cabs!
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Non-sweatshop skate shoes
Last Resort AB makes their shoes in Vietnam. There was an interview some months before the first LR drop that made it really sound as if they were going to be made in Portugal but that isn't the case.
I have no problem buying an Asian-made shoe, provided that the workers are treated well, have benefits, the right to unionize, etc.
I’d like to know more about the factory Arto Pontus chose.
Thank you.
And I DMed them like a man. I’ll let you know if I hear anything.
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Dope thread.
I really like the idea of reissued stuff, the Nike sbs, some p-rods rn would be so appreciated.
Reissued trucks/decks would be too rad. Completely unfeasible, tracking down old molds, formulas....but still.
I too am always looking for the truck for me, but a gentle disagree with trying to make an Indy a thunder, and then a thunder an Indy.
More vegan shoes/longer lasting shoes/non sweatshop shoes would be awesome. I really like skating canvas, a more durable canvas would be excellent (just to cut down on waste).
I wish there were a few 13.75” wb boards out there. I’m starting to notice a positive difference, maybe, for myself, on shorter effective wb, say max 17”, be nice to be able to use ventures more. I am of very average height, short in my opinion, but certainly not skateboarder short. Anyways, maybe this will become a thing.
**also: 215s geometry in 139s. Just to be different.
*also: t-109s in 139s. For no great reason other than they look really cool.
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8.6x32.25x14.25 Full SE with a P2 nose
Affordable, skater owned, shoe company with ethical practices
Viagra for my lower back
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a pointy es accel with g6 pour in midsole
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Whats some stuff you really want but either does not exist, or has not been released
For Me:
Forged Titanium Aces
60mm Conical Fulls
Waffle Cup Half Cabs
Chefs kiss
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A Harry Lintell pro board. C'mon, Jim.
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Powell flight construction in an FA shape
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Viagra for my lower back
Cat Cow man, Cat Cow. It's all you need.
F4 in a V3 shape (hell I'd settle for the classic slims).
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Cat Cow man, Cat Cow. It's all you need.
F4 in a V3 shape (hell I'd settle for the classic slims).
If only it were that simple
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F4 in a V3 shape (hell I'd settle for the classic slims).
I'd gladly ride those in 54mm.
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#4!! Agreed!
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Unbreakable laces
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Unbreakable laces
i used to be able to do heelflips then i started breaking laces so i stopped doing them and now i try 2 heelflips miss both and rip my lace its super lame
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1 or 2mm riser pads. 1/8 inch is just too much.
(probably exists but no shops have them)
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1 or 2mm riser pads. 1/8 inch is just too much.
(probably exists but no shops have them)
https://socalskateshop.com/Shortys-Dooks-Silencers-Black-Set-of-2.html
Khiro also makes a bunch of sizes that are less than 1/8, but more suited for longboards. Keep in mind, these are shock pads so I’m not sure if they’ll make your board feel dead or make it have less pop
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-Blanks available from all brands. Sometimes I love a boards shape but don’t want to see a strangers face at the bottom of my board.
-(+1) on Ace sizes that make more sense for 8.5 riders
-Some kind of 3rd party material that you can easily overlay on your laces to stop ripping them
-On ^^ tip: shoes constructed with lace protection need to come back in more than ugly shoes
-Ramp leases/rentals
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Trucks that grind like Indys, turn like ace, and somehow have the stability and pop of ventures.
Available dunks in regular colors, maybe an accel somewhere between the slim and OG (closer to OG) with a mid/high top variant.
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There should be something to get the crud of your wheels when skating dusty indoor parks
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i used to be able to do heelflips then i started breaking laces so i stopped doing them and now i try 2 heelflips miss both and rip my lace its super lame
There was an a brand tried this. I want to say they were Kevlar. They were like 25$ a pair.
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Fred Gall decks made by Hockey or FA
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Fred Gall decks made by Hockey or FA
(https://i.ibb.co/s2t1PyJ/16169795141561912936924544649557.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s2t1PyJ)
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Waffle Cup Half Cabs
those did exist at one point as the "Half Cab lite"
it had the original wafflecup (that was better in my opinion)... like 2013.
edit: here's some info about it, http://allthingsskateboarding.blogspot.com/2012/10/vans-half-cab-lite.html
wish they still had 'em, honestly the original wafflecup blows the new stuff out of the water for boardfeel, skateability out of the box, and protection.. i'm guessing the new stuff was just less expensive to manufacture...
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I want a barnyard twin tail and I want copers. I'm ready to use the monkey paw to revive the 90s.
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-Some kind of 3rd party material that you can easily overlay on your laces to stop ripping them
Like crazy glue?
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Fred Gall decks made by Hockey or FA
(https://i.ibb.co/s2t1PyJ/16169795141561912936924544649557.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s2t1PyJ)
I mean, as a team member!
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
Only in dreams. The last General Release was probably the orange Corduroy dunks back in 2019. Now they are being sold for $450 and go straight to a rich white kid's plastic box. Nike fucking up big time though...
Maaan I used to have so many dunks that I completely destroyed. My last pair was literally plain black and gray and they’re selling for $700 now. It’d be rad if they become available for actual skaters again because that shoe is one of the best I’ve ever skated.
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
Only in dreams. The last General Release was probably the orange Corduroy dunks back in 2019. Now they are being sold for $450 and go straight to a rich white kid's plastic box. Nike fucking up big time though...
Maaan I used to have so many dunks that I completely destroyed. My last pair was literally plain black and gray and they’re selling for $700 now. It’d be rad if they become available for actual skaters again because that shoe is one of the best I’ve ever skated.
Rumor with Nike is they’re planning to make SBs no longer exclusive to skateshops. Which means, hopefully, more production. I hope, at the least, a pair or plain jane dunk SBs that will be as plentiful and easily accessible as the all white air force 1
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Conical Slims
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Dunks you can actually just buy. Thunders with a longer baseplate.
Only in dreams. The last General Release was probably the orange Corduroy dunks back in 2019. Now they are being sold for $450 and go straight to a rich white kid's plastic box. Nike fucking up big time though...
Maaan I used to have so many dunks that I completely destroyed. My last pair was literally plain black and gray and they’re selling for $700 now. It’d be rad if they become available for actual skaters again because that shoe is one of the best I’ve ever skated.
I got a pair of the non-SB dunks for retail in a raffle on SNKRS and I’m skating them. I know I could sell them on StockX for $215 but fuck it. They are seriously so good. Hopefully they make a Telford low that’s compatible.
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Ace 77s (10”)
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Adidas should make superstars with colored stripes and heel tabs in more colors and available often (think red, orange, navy blue, burgundy, etc.)
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a midtop named after an insect, maybe you make some out of hemp. could be cool
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Half Cabs with Muska-esque tongue stash pockets.
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spitfire f4 V3 slims
Would gladly buy these in a 99a 54mm.
A shoe that has the grip / flick of a vulc with the cushion of a cup, if anyone has any recommendations I'm all ears.
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A Harry Lintell pro board. C'mon, Jim.
this
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Would gladly buy these in a 99a 54mm.
A shoe that has the grip / flick of a vulc with the cushion of a cup, if anyone has any recommendations I'm all ears.
Personally I get that from the blazer mids. The sole is thick enough that you get a lot of cushion even though it is a vulc.
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Truck baseplates with recesses for the nut, so you don't need a spanner to tighten them.
Fury used to have this, and it's such a great feature from a product design point of view.
I remember also seeing either nuts or special washers below the nuts that had like a prong that grabbed the side of the baseplate to hold them in place when screwing.
Lest we all forget....
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0017/4232/files/Product_Benifets_Sheet_v2_grande.JPG?133433)
To add to the convo:
Ti/forged 129/139/144/149/159/169 Indys that use the gotdayum 215 hanger design (we get the kooked Mindy instead).
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Pants that are baggy in the thighs and seat but taper a lot towards the lower leg with a smaller leg opening. Preferably denim or at least have back pockets that are on the outside of the pants not the inside like on most chinos
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1) A squaresicle. No, not a barnyard or twin but something shaped that is a little more blunt with a taper at both ends like a square 'egg' board but not extreme like they do the late 90s/last of the shaped boards noses...The doomsayers shovel nose with a more squared of tail (a more rounded version of their double shovel).
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/ar_1,c_pad/w_747,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/es2ompcitqgl0osc3kii)
This is super close if it were just a but more rounded in the tail
(https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heroin-Skateboards-Grave-Digger-Top.jpg)
2) A Gonz 'sweatpants' shaped deck that is slimmer, more full in the nose and more 'current day' functional, like a mild-shaped version of it.
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1) A squaresicle. No, not a barnyard or twin but something shaped that is a little more blunt with a taper at both ends like a square 'egg' board but not extreme like they do the late 90s/last of the shaped boards noses...The doomsayers shovel nose with a more squared of tail (a more rounded version of their double shovel).
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/ar_1,c_pad/w_747,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/es2ompcitqgl0osc3kii)
This is super close if it were just a but more rounded in the tail
(https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heroin-Skateboards-Grave-Digger-Top.jpg)
2) A Gonz 'sweatpants' shaped deck that is slimmer, more full in the nose and more 'current day' functional, like a mild-shaped version of it.
Have you seen Maite's shaped deck from Uma? I just picked one up because I'm always on the lookout for a shape similar to what you are describing...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Deck0121MaiteGrowthShaped_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612310070)
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Fuck Axion reboot, we deserve a full on Ipath reboot.
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Not “gear” really but if there was a database that primarily logged dimensions of boards, measurements/ of trucks, and let you plug in a wheel size you could quantify what certain WBs, kicks and truck heights do to ollies, manuals etc and put some numbers to your preferences. Could log board shape, truck geometry too maybe.
Not trying to turn skating into baseball, just thought it would be a useful tool to find Goldilocks setups and help decide what new ones to try
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1) A squaresicle. No, not a barnyard or twin but something shaped that is a little more blunt with a taper at both ends like a square 'egg' board but not extreme like they do the late 90s/last of the shaped boards noses...The doomsayers shovel nose with a more squared of tail (a more rounded version of their double shovel).
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/ar_1,c_pad/w_747,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/es2ompcitqgl0osc3kii)
This is super close if it were just a but more rounded in the tail
(https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heroin-Skateboards-Grave-Digger-Top.jpg)
2) A Gonz 'sweatpants' shaped deck that is slimmer, more full in the nose and more 'current day' functional, like a mild-shaped version of it.
Have you seen Maite's shaped deck from Uma? I just picked one up because I'm always on the lookout for a shape similar to what you are describing...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Deck0121MaiteGrowthShaped_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612310070)
I saw that one, nose isn't what I am after (so many of the decks here have GREAT tails but blow their noses.
Another Uma that's close...way too tapered for what I want.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2372/6183/products/maiteos2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1603397212)
Lot's of streetplant coming up:
I've never seen a top shot of this board, but my guess is it's damn close:
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/street-plant-brand-double-tail-2-blue-stain-skateboard-deck-8-375-p27826-68698_medium.jpg)
EDIT: found a top shot...yup, this would be what I'm after. A nice 8.375x31.75 with a 14.18" WB would be so sick.
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/street-plant-brand-double-tail-2-red-stain-skateboard-deck-8-375-p27827-68697_image.jpg)
Streeplant always comes so close to the 'gonz sweatpants' deck I wish someone would make...it's a 90s shape but with fuller nose:
Would be perfect it if wasn't so 'extreme' with it's proportions, take these next two shapes and hybridize them with popsicles but still retain a 'slight' 90s shape..:
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_streetplantbrand-tusker-xl_600x.jpg)
I own this one, it's ok, nose is too short and too tapered but it's so close.
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Super_Blake_700x.jpg)
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1) A squaresicle. No, not a barnyard or twin but something shaped that is a little more blunt with a taper at both ends like a square 'egg' board but not extreme like they do the late 90s/last of the shaped boards noses...The doomsayers shovel nose with a more squared of tail (a more rounded version of their double shovel).
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/ar_1,c_pad/w_747,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/es2ompcitqgl0osc3kii)
(https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heroin-Skateboards-Grave-Digger-Top.jpg)
2) A Gonz 'sweatpants' shaped deck that is slimmer, more full in the nose and more 'current day' functional, like a mild-shaped version of it.
Have you seen Maite's shaped deck from Uma? I just picked one up because I'm always on the lookout for a shape similar to what you are describing...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Deck0121MaiteGrowthShaped_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612310070)
Another Uma that's close...way too tapered for what I want.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2372/6183/products/maiteos2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1603397212)
Lot's of streetplant coming up:
I've never seen a top shot of this board, but my guess is it's damn close:
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/street-plant-brand-double-tail-2-blue-stain-skateboard-deck-8-375-p27826-68698_medium.jpg)
EDIT: found a top shot...yup, this would be what I'm after. A nice 8.375x31.75 with a 14.18" WB would be so sick.
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/street-plant-brand-double-tail-2-red-stain-skateboard-deck-8-375-p27827-68697_image.jpg)
Streeplant always comes so close to the 'gonz sweatpants' deck I wish someone would make...it's a 90s shape but with fuller nose:
Would be perfect it if wasn't so 'extreme' with it's proportions, take these next two shapes and hybridize them with popsicles but still retain a 'slight' 90s shape..:
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_streetplantbrand-tusker-xl_600x.jpg)
I own this one, it's ok, nose is too short and too tapered but it's so close.
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Super_Blake_700x.jpg)
"Blow their noses", love that!
Yeah the nose is the only thing not 100% for me on this Maite. I might sand it down a little since it's close, and when I do that I usually seal the fresh edge with really thin superglue... which is a win win because the superglue penetrates deeper than clearcoat and is strong, so it helps prevent wear and tear a bit.
This is super close if it were just a but more rounded in the tail
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Pants that are baggy in the thighs and seat but taper a lot towards the lower leg with a smaller leg opening. Preferably denim or at least have back pockets that are on the outside of the pants not the inside like on most chinos
You want the Magenta OG denim
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Fuck Axion reboot, we deserve a full on Ipath reboot.
Real recognize real
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Spitfire lock ins with the graphic printed on the other side, so when you ride them coolguy, (print side in)the shape functions as intended. Call them “Lock Outs”.
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1) A squaresicle. No, not a barnyard or twin but something shaped that is a little more blunt with a taper at both ends like a square 'egg' board but not extreme like they do the late 90s/last of the shaped boards noses...The doomsayers shovel nose with a more squared of tail (a more rounded version of their double shovel).
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/ar_1,c_pad/w_747,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/es2ompcitqgl0osc3kii)
(https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heroin-Skateboards-Grave-Digger-Top.jpg)
2) A Gonz 'sweatpants' shaped deck that is slimmer, more full in the nose and more 'current day' functional, like a mild-shaped version of it.
Have you seen Maite's shaped deck from Uma? I just picked one up because I'm always on the lookout for a shape similar to what you are describing...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1728/9265/products/Deck0121MaiteGrowthShaped_1024x1024.jpg?v=1612310070)
Another Uma that's close...way too tapered for what I want.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2372/6183/products/maiteos2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1603397212)
Lot's of streetplant coming up:
I've never seen a top shot of this board, but my guess is it's damn close:
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/street-plant-brand-double-tail-2-blue-stain-skateboard-deck-8-375-p27826-68698_medium.jpg)
EDIT: found a top shot...yup, this would be what I'm after. A nice 8.375x31.75 with a 14.18" WB would be so sick.
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/street-plant-brand-double-tail-2-red-stain-skateboard-deck-8-375-p27827-68697_image.jpg)
Streeplant always comes so close to the 'gonz sweatpants' deck I wish someone would make...it's a 90s shape but with fuller nose:
Would be perfect it if wasn't so 'extreme' with it's proportions, take these next two shapes and hybridize them with popsicles but still retain a 'slight' 90s shape..:
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_streetplantbrand-tusker-xl_600x.jpg)
I own this one, it's ok, nose is too short and too tapered but it's so close.
(https://www.companybe.com/TriStarSkateboards/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Super_Blake_700x.jpg)
"Blow their noses", love that!
Yeah the nose is the only thing not 100% for me on this Maite. I might sand it down a little since it's close, and when I do that I usually seal the fresh edge with really thin superglue... which is a win win because the superglue penetrates deeper than clearcoat and is strong, so it helps prevent wear and tear a bit.
This is super close if it were just a but more rounded in the tail
http://www.opensourceboards.com/
Not sure if this site has been brought up in any threads, but, have at it! You can make pretty much whatever shapes you want.
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Grip tape with a small part where you can strike a match
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Nike Sb reissues of some of their weirder classics like the E-cue and the Url, hell maybe even a revamped Savier model (one of the more "tasteful" Saviers of course) and a TRUE reissue of the old Sb FC - I had a pair of the FCs when I was a kid when they first started making them and I'll never forget how much better they felt compared to everything else I skated when I was 15/16. They felt slim in a nice way, still had padding, and this is kind of stupid but I loved the way the old soles looked.
The Tim o'connor savier was really clean looking.
(https://defunkd.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/e7325914296cacf3c32b56cdc42d395b7ad0fbd.jpg)
These were the first shoes I skated in. Nike crosstrainers. It's what he based his shoe off of.
My contribution. I want a flatter countersink bit like this that is the angle of hardware so you can screw from the top without grip bunching up.
(https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/4efa6ebb-4b5a-410c-b43a-22d47b2d1c9f/svn/bosch-countersink-bits-cst1-64_1000.jpg)
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Nike Sb reissues of some of their weirder classics like the E-cue and the Url, hell maybe even a revamped Savier model (one of the more "tasteful" Saviers of course) and a TRUE reissue of the old Sb FC - I had a pair of the FCs when I was a kid when they first started making them and I'll never forget how much better they felt compared to everything else I skated when I was 15/16. They felt slim in a nice way, still had padding, and this is kind of stupid but I loved the way the old soles looked.
The Tim o'connor savier was really clean looking.
These were the first shoes I skated in. Nike crosstrainers. It's what he based his shoe off of.
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The Tim O'Connor Saviers were great. And they were on sale everywhere at the time.
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Pants that are baggy in the thighs and seat but taper a lot towards the lower leg with a smaller leg opening. Preferably denim or at least have back pockets that are on the outside of the pants not the inside like on most chinos
I have 2 pairs of these currently. 100% cotton denim jeans. My true size fit is exactly what you described you want in your post. I know the price looks sus, but they are pretty decent pairs of jeans all around for under $25 bucks.
https://shakawear.com/products/raw-denim?variant=33245581180991
Edit- Big Z has them buy one get one 50% off. I'm tempted to buy myself another 2 pairs just for the hell of it.
https://www.zumiez.com/shaka-wear-light-blue-stone-wash-denim-jeans.html
https://www.zumiez.com/shaka-wear-dark-blue-stone-denim-jeans.html
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My contribution. I want a flatter countersink bit like this that is the angle of hardware so you can screw from the top without grip bunching up.
(https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/4efa6ebb-4b5a-410c-b43a-22d47b2d1c9f/svn/bosch-countersink-bits-cst1-64_1000.jpg)
i been giving this fat phillips driver i've a few spins after gripping and it helps with the bunching. even though i only spin the nuts, i still get some bunching sometimes.
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Boards that are symmetrical in size and concave etc but one kick cut sorta pointy and the other kinda square-ish.
Taper the top of the kingpin so the nut is the same size as an axle nut. Won't catch on Smith's as much. Only need one tool.
Titanium baseplates. Can hollow it out to make it lighter. Maybe built in kingpins. The mounting holes won't get warped out. Pivot cup will be stronger than the pivot of the hanger so won't get blown out.
All cotton (or something natural) loose fitting/oversize long sleeve shirts for when it's really hot.
Gear that exists but should be used more: elastic belts like baseball players have. Those thin kneepads some basketball players wear.
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Wool gloves with a suede patch over the area that gets shredded by griptape.
Semi-insulated cupsoles (a 440 high, preferably)
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Transparent silicone hand palm protectors.
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My contribution. I want a flatter countersink bit like this that is the angle of hardware so you can screw from the top without grip bunching up.
(https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/4efa6ebb-4b5a-410c-b43a-22d47b2d1c9f/svn/bosch-countersink-bits-cst1-64_1000.jpg)
What you are looking for is a 90° countersink, which is a fairly common one. That's the angle of the bolts.
Or you take a"normal" metaldrill (118°), what I prefer.
What I do is (when I have the time and want a good outcome):
Put the trucks on before gripping, pull tight, take off, grip, pin the holes with a nail, give the drill a spin by hand to just remove the grip over the imprint of the hardware, set up.
As this has already gotten technical:
I wish there would be a tool to rethread truckbolts from the in to the outside.
Ugh, how can I describe it ?
Like a split threader you can put on the "healthy" part, instead of the normal ones, where you most likely fuck up the angle and/or make a second thread accidentally. Because naturally it doesn't work to repair the end when you need that end to set up the tool. If this makes any sense.
edited 'cause of bad quoting
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Regular and consistent production line of chukka boots commensurate with eras/authentics. Either the 90’s are back or they aren’t.
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The Deathwish Foy85 shape that he used to skate being available all of the time would be my dream.
8.5x31.75 with a 14.25wb . Nice round nose and tail, not a twin tail. It’s the best feeling board I’ve ever skated. I’m sitting on a pile of them right now, but one of these days I’m going to be out. Thinking about dm’ing The Boss like a man and groveling like a child to try to make it a reality. I’d buy them by the dozen.
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Venture 5.6 lo.
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(https://i.ibb.co/7gnWDQN/EEC00-CC9-45-B2-4-CB6-A4-B4-0-A99-A7-D11-C28.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7gnWDQN)
Rails are out. Fill the void
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The Deathwish Foy85 shape that he used to skate being available all of the time would be my dream.
8.5x31.75 with a 14.25wb . Nice round nose and tail, not a twin tail. It’s the best feeling board I’ve ever skated. I’m sitting on a pile of them right now, but one of these days I’m going to be out. Thinking about dm’ing The Boss like a man and groveling like a child to try to make it a reality. I’d buy them by the dozen.
How does that one compare to the usual 8.475 x 31.875 shape?
Common on Baker and Deathwish:
8.475" x 31.875"
14.25" Wheelbase
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My contribution. I want a flatter countersink bit like this that is the angle of hardware so you can screw from the top without grip bunching up.
(https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/4efa6ebb-4b5a-410c-b43a-22d47b2d1c9f/svn/bosch-countersink-bits-cst1-64_1000.jpg)
What you are looking for is a 90° countersink, which is a fairly common one. That's the angle of the bolts.
Or you take a"normal" metaldrill (118°), what I prefer.
What I do is (when I have the time and want a good outcome):
Put the trucks on before gripping, pull tight, take off, grip, pin the holes with a nail, give the drill a spin by hand to just remove the grip over the imprint of the hardware, set up.
As this has already gotten technical:
I wish there would be a tool to rethread truckbolts from the in to the outside.
Ugh, how can I describe it ?
Like a split threader you can put on the "healthy" part, instead of the normal ones, where you most likely fuck up the angle and/or make a second thread accidentally. Because naturally it doesn't work to repair the end when you need that end to set up the tool. If this makes any sense.
edited 'cause of bad quoting
This is the sort of thing that makes me smile.
I knew someone that would use a normal screw and power drill to screw through every bolt hole into a scrap piece of wood to get the simple imprinted head without cutting into the wood at all, then the deck bolts would fit in way more smoothly every time.
When setting up new boards, I usually just use a hand phillips screw driver on the deck bolt holes to get rid of excess grip and the Shortys bolts (smaller heads) never really have any issues going into the board, but if you are using larger head deck bolts, having the grip as well as the holes routed does help.
Been thinking about doing a "How to..." on this, so maybe this is the inspiration to get one done.
Good read!
Edit: As for the second part, re Ace nuts that are reathreaders, so when the nut has been on and the end of the axle is messed up, by undoing the nut will actually (in theory cause I haven't seen it work) re thread the axle thread as you take it off.
Might be worth looking into.
I always use more washers on the axles so the nuts sit flush, so there are no axle end issues, but some others I skate with have also had so many issues as they don't like washers that they grind off the excess axle end to the correct length for one washer on the inside and just the nut on the outside. It is pretty extreme, but they say it works.
Keeping a few sets of spare nuts is often handy too.
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Fuck Axion reboot, we deserve a full on Ipath reboot.
i want some Kastel
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Spitfire lock ins with the graphic printed on the other side, so when you ride them coolguy, (print side in)the shape functions as intended. Call them “Lock Outs”.
This. And they should have the Radial shape on the inside, imo. Kinda like the Oj combos with F4 urethane.
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1) A squaresicle. No, not a barnyard or twin but something shaped that is a little more blunt with a taper at both ends like a square 'egg' board but not extreme like they do the late 90s/last of the shaped boards noses...The doomsayers shovel nose with a more squared of tail (a more rounded version of their double shovel).
(https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/ar_1,c_pad/w_747,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/es2ompcitqgl0osc3kii)
This is super close if it were just a but more rounded in the tail
(https://offsetskatesupply.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Heroin-Skateboards-Grave-Digger-Top.jpg)
2) A Gonz 'sweatpants' shaped deck that is slimmer, more full in the nose and more 'current day' functional, like a mild-shaped version of it.
I HAVE THE ANSWER.
(https://www.longboarderlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/antihero-grimple-stix-stack.jpg)
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Dunks you can actually just buy.
Started buying reps because I was so tired of this. Just gonna get skated and shredded anyway and I never miss a release I want
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Spitfire lock ins with the graphic printed on the other side, so when you ride them coolguy, (print side in)the shape functions as intended. Call them “Lock Outs”.
Like this: Daewon Fury wheels
https://www.routeone.co.uk/products/spitfire-daewon-fury-formula-four-lock-ins-99d-skateboard-wheel-52mm
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0274/4293/7933/products/001077094.jpg)
This. And they should have the Radial shape on the inside, imo. Kinda like the Oj combos with F4 urethane.
I made my own...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CML_20UlEVe/
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Spitfire lock ins with the graphic printed on the other side, so when you ride them coolguy, (print side in)the shape functions as intended. Call them “Lock Outs”.
This. And they should have the Radial shape on the inside, imo. Kinda like the Oj combos with F4 urethane.
How about they have no shitty wheel graphics at all
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I made my own...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CML_20UlEVe/
Hell yeah!
I should try that ,too. (cough, i have access to cnc machines, cough)
And while we're at it:
Wheels with off centered bearings would be great to expand the range of boardwidths u can ride with one trucksize.
This way u can even decrease your effective axle, unlike adding washers.
I'm afraid DLX has not too much interest in this, though.
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The Deathwish Foy85 shape that he used to skate being available all of the time would be my dream.
8.5x31.75 with a 14.25wb . Nice round nose and tail, not a twin tail. It’s the best feeling board I’ve ever skated. I’m sitting on a pile of them right now, but one of these days I’m going to be out. Thinking about dm’ing The Boss like a man and groveling like a child to try to make it a reality. I’d buy them by the dozen.
How does that one compare to the usual 8.475 x 31.875 shape?
Common on Baker and Deathwish:
8.475" x 31.875"
14.25" Wheelbase
The nose and tail are a little shorter and more full/rounded than the B16 shape. They claim to be only .125” different in length, but the nose measures .25” longer, and the tail measures barely longer tha the Foy, which makes no sense to me.
B16
6 7/8 n
6.5 t
Foy85
6 5/8 n
6 3/8 t
It’s honestly pretty close. I’m actually skating the B16 shape currently. It’s just got a little more taper to the nose and tail, which also make them look longer. It’s a pretty minor thing to bitch about, but here I am, haha.
The b16 is probably what I’ll end up skating when I’m finally out of Foy85s.
Dlx has an 8.5x31.8 w 14.25 wb, but I’m not in love with it’s none/tail lengths either, but it’s not bad.
There are options that are close enough, but this one feels one the one I’d skate until the end of time if I could. Unfortunately, at 37, pretty certain I’ll never be good enough (or lucky enough) to get a company to make my preferred shape. So I guess I’ll just have to settle for what I can find. I was able to purchase a handful of Foy85s from Deathwish that were made for Jamie but he had switched his shape to that twin tail by the time they got back from production.
It’s funny, I like boards with mellow kicks and short noses, but I hated that Foy twin tail I tried.
(I’m still totally going to dm Reynolds about it though, haha.)
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The Deathwish Foy85 shape that he used to skate being available all of the time would be my dream.
8.5x31.75 with a 14.25wb . Nice round nose and tail, not a twin tail. It’s the best feeling board I’ve ever skated. I’m sitting on a pile of them right now, but one of these days I’m going to be out. Thinking about dm’ing The Boss like a man and groveling like a child to try to make it a reality. I’d buy them by the dozen.
How does that one compare to the usual 8.475 x 31.875 shape?
Common on Baker and Deathwish:
8.475" x 31.875"
14.25" Wheelbase
The nose and tail are a little shorter and more full/rounded than the B16 shape. They claim to be only .125” different in length, but the nose measures .25” longer, and the tail measures barely longer tha the Foy, which makes no sense to me.
B16
6 7/8 n
6.5 t
Foy85
6 5/8 n
6 3/8 t
It’s honestly pretty close. I’m actually skating the B16 shape currently. It’s just got a little more taper to the nose and tail, which also make them look longer. It’s a pretty minor thing to bitch about, but here I am, haha.
The b16 is probably what I’ll end up skating when I’m finally out of Foy85s.
Dlx has an 8.5x31.8 w 14.25 wb, but I’m not in love with it’s none/tail lengths either, but it’s not bad.
There are options that are close enough, but this one feels one the one I’d skate until the end of time if I could. Unfortunately, at 37, pretty certain I’ll never be good enough (or lucky enough) to get a company to make my preferred shape. So I guess I’ll just have to settle for what I can find. I was able to purchase a handful of Foy85s from Deathwish that were made for Jamie but he had switched his shape to that twin tail by the time they got back from production.
It’s funny, I like boards with mellow kicks and short noses, but I hated that Foy twin tail I tried.
(I’m still totally going to dm Reynolds about it though, haha.)
Ha yeah totally get on to him!
Interesting about the similarities and differences.
One thing to note too is the Deathwish / Baker boards do not taper and stay 8.5 right through from truck to truck, whereas the DLX 8.5 does taper from 8.5 right at the shoulder (more often less 8.3 in the middle, as per many comments on here) down to almost 8.25 at the back bolts.
I feel like some people really like the taper on boards, but if I get a board that has a straight rail right through, I just feel better about it.
That's my madness.
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Hell yeah!
I should try that ,too. (cough, i have access to cnc machines, cough)
And while we're at it:
Wheels with off centered bearings would be great to expand the range of boardwidths u can ride with one trucksize.
This way u can even decrease your effective axle, unlike adding washers.
I'm afraid DLX has not too much interest in this, though.
I would recommend playing around with old wheels first, just to get a feel for it and make very gentle cuts into the edge of the wheel to start the process. It is fairly easy no matter what you use, but I have seen times where people have slipped and the tool / grinder has run a gouge through the urethane and made the wheel unusable.
As for off center wheels, those Lock Ins are pretty much the only wheel that would have that effect, as they are very much different from front to back, so running them one way gives about a 5 mm difference or more, from some I had.
The way I work through wheel to truck ratios to fit certain decks is a combination of wider or more narrow wheels and washers, eg for a board with axles that stick out a touch, one washer on the inside and medium width classics, but with a board with axles just on or slightly under, classic full wheels with up to three washers on the inside brings the wheel edge out a significant amount. I guess I have a lot more old stock to play with and make up various combinations too, but I like the wheel edge to be pretty much on or just under the deck edge.
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The Deathwish Foy85 shape that he used to skate being available all of the time would be my dream.
8.5x31.75 with a 14.25wb . Nice round nose and tail, not a twin tail. It’s the best feeling board I’ve ever skated. I’m sitting on a pile of them right now, but one of these days I’m going to be out. Thinking about dm’ing The Boss like a man and groveling like a child to try to make it a reality. I’d buy them by the dozen.
How does that one compare to the usual 8.475 x 31.875 shape?
Common on Baker and Deathwish:
8.475" x 31.875"
14.25" Wheelbase
The nose and tail are a little shorter and more full/rounded than the B16 shape. They claim to be only .125” different in length, but the nose measures .25” longer, and the tail measures barely longer tha the Foy, which makes no sense to me.
B16
6 7/8 n
6.5 t
Foy85
6 5/8 n
6 3/8 t
It’s honestly pretty close. I’m actually skating the B16 shape currently. It’s just got a little more taper to the nose and tail, which also make them look longer. It’s a pretty minor thing to bitch about, but here I am, haha.
The b16 is probably what I’ll end up skating when I’m finally out of Foy85s.
Dlx has an 8.5x31.8 w 14.25 wb, but I’m not in love with it’s none/tail lengths either, but it’s not bad.
There are options that are close enough, but this one feels one the one I’d skate until the end of time if I could. Unfortunately, at 37, pretty certain I’ll never be good enough (or lucky enough) to get a company to make my preferred shape. So I guess I’ll just have to settle for what I can find. I was able to purchase a handful of Foy85s from Deathwish that were made for Jamie but he had switched his shape to that twin tail by the time they got back from production.
It’s funny, I like boards with mellow kicks and short noses, but I hated that Foy twin tail I tried.
(I’m still totally going to dm Reynolds about it though, haha.)
Ha yeah totally get on to him!
Interesting about the similarities and differences.
One thing to note too is the Deathwish / Baker boards do not taper and stay 8.5 right through from truck to truck, whereas the DLX 8.5 does taper from 8.5 right at the shoulder (more often less 8.3 in the middle, as per many comments on here) down to almost 8.25 at the back bolts.
I feel like some people really like the taper on boards, but if I get a board that has a straight rail right through, I just feel better about it.
That's my madness.
I’m with you 100%. I’m not a fan of the taper. My son is skating an 8.25 Sheckler Plan b that has a crazy taper, more exaggerated than any I’ve ever noticed before. Seems almost triangle shaped, haha.
There’s no way I could skate that thing.