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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: emchen on July 30, 2018, 12:01:48 PM
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Can't say I'm surprised, but damn he owes a lot of $$
https://www.gofundme.com/help-keep-fred-gall-out-of-tax-jail
I hope he pays it back and maybe learns to spell better. What's up with these handwritten skate notes lately?
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i thought he had a financial manager
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i thought he had a financial manager
p-shaw, it was lennie kirk.
lennie was going to use his hacking connections to expand fred's portfolio but he ended up loosing it to nigerian prince.
uncle freddy gonna be aight
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I remember him talking about this in a 2007 interview in Skateboarder, saying that he owed around $10,000 at that time
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$80k in back taxes, goddamn (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png)
If only we all had the clout to ask strangers for money to help deal with our personal debt...
Time for SLAP’s Fred Gall>Everything crowd to put up or shut up (and hope this isn’t a monthly thing)
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I guess this can coincide with the GT on Monster thread. I know it can be hypocritical to be on Anti-Hero and then be on Monster but sometimes you have to look out for your own financial well being. To see that Freddie can't afford to pay $2,500 is just sad. I actually thought he needed the full $80K but $2,500? That doesn't seem that crazy of amount to just work off or even sell stuff to get. I am sure he has some old Habitat boards he can easily sell to make this kind of money or even do a Habitat one off that would go toward his problems. But a Go-Fund me? Just kind of weird really.
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I guess this can coincide with the GT on Monster thread. I know it can be hypocritical to be on Anti-Hero and then be on Monster but sometimes you have to look out for your own financial well being. To see that Freddie can't afford to pay $2,500 is just sad. I actually thought he needed the full $80K but $2,500? That doesn't seem that crazy of amount to just work off or even sell stuff to get. I am sure he has some old Habitat boards he can easily sell to make this kind of money or even do a Habitat one off that would go toward his problems. But a Go-Fund me? Just kind of weird really.
Taxes are a percentage of income. If Fred had those energy drink sponsors he’d owe even more now!
And its $2500 after they completely drained his bank account, and seems like a recurring thing. Like, I could afford to pay that, but I’d have to cut into my savings, and Fred had his drained.
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Imagine if St. Fred blessed us with a hello or is that what's happening here?
Wish he could cash in all his slap likes.
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He's always come across as so fiscally responsible what could have happened?
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Best 5$ I ever spent
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Pass
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Basically this
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That doesn't seem that crazy of amount to just work off or even sell stuff to get. I am sure he has some old Habitat boards he can easily sell to make this kind of money or even do a Habitat one off that would go toward his problems. But a Go-Fund me? Just kind of weird really.
So what happens next time he's short an entire installment, do we gotta flip the bill that time too?
if you do coke, morally speaking, i'm not on the hook for anything because you're too busy paying for coke to pay for your own shit
sorry uncle freddy
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This will be the fastest paid gofundme ever
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I guess this can coincide with the GT on Monster thread. I know it can be hypocritical to be on Anti-Hero and then be on Monster but sometimes you have to look out for your own financial well being. To see that Freddie can't afford to pay $2,500 is just sad. I actually thought he needed the full $80K but $2,500? That doesn't seem that crazy of amount to just work off or even sell stuff to get. I am sure he has some old Habitat boards he can easily sell to make this kind of money or even do a Habitat one off that would go toward his problems. But a Go-Fund me? Just kind of weird really.
And its $2500 after they completely drained his bank account, and seems like a recurring thing. Like, I could afford to pay that, but I’d have to cut into my savings, and Fred had his drained.
I guess you're right. The real issue is just paying your taxes in general. Like someone said above, his go fund me should asap. Andy Roy on the other hand....I think I saw that he raised his Go Fund me higher for his teeth.
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fuck hes fucked basically. Poor dude, has a big influence on 90s skating brought non sketchyness and solid style to tech back when that wasn't a thing yet.
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This dude owes $80,000 and can't afford a $2,500 installment? Even Wesley Snipe's thinks this dude is fucked. He might as well just turn himself in now. This go fund me shit is just kicking the can down the road, not a real solution.
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dude, it seems he's trying! working construction... man. and he lost his grandma recently too
The internet is big enough to allow a lil $2500 gofundme for Freddy.
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This dude owes $80,000 and can't afford a $2,500 installment? Even Wesley Snipe's thinks this dude is fucked. He might as well just turn himself in now. This go fund me shit is just kicking the can down the road, not a real solution.
90% of life is kicking the can down the road
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The point of life is to die before you pay everyone back
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The point of life is to die before you pay everyone back
I work with seniors and they tell me this ALL the time.
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so many shitty gofundme's out there that get paid, and when Slap's patron saint needs help, everyone throws their hands up? shut the fuck up and pay the man, we all owe
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so many shitty gofundme's out there that get paid, and when Slap's patron saint needs help, everyone throws their hands up? shut the fuck up and pay the man, we all owe
That’s what I was thinking. I’m in debt on my own tho sorry freddy
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i thought he had a financial manager
on his episode of the nine club (june 5, 2017), ryan clements talks about how fred was his second client. p-rod was his first. found an article from as far back as 2010 (https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.com/transworld-business/mo-money-mo-problems-action-sports-athletes-the-woes-of-wealth/ (https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.com/transworld-business/mo-money-mo-problems-action-sports-athletes-the-woes-of-wealth/)):
Clements, who manages Paul Rodriguez and Fred Gall's finances with Brinkly, says putting together a simple financial plan is the first step towards building a solid nest egg for the future. "We’ve found that most of the guys we talk to want to be responsible with their money. They just don’t know where to start."
so that's at least seven years of help from clements. seems like a good chunk of time to be able to clear up issues such as this. as he mentioned in his nine club interview though, just because he provides his clients with a financial plan doesn't necessarily mean that they all follow it. wonder how it all went astray though.
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The point of life is to die before you pay everyone back
I work with seniors and they tell me this ALL the time.
Doesn't a debt of someone that dies fall on their family afterwards? Hopefully all these seniors have no kids. Would be fucked to pass down all that.
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That doesn't seem that crazy of amount to just work off or even sell stuff to get. I am sure he has some old Habitat boards he can easily sell to make this kind of money or even do a Habitat one off that would go toward his problems. But a Go-Fund me? Just kind of weird really.
if you do coke, morally speaking, i'm not on the hook for anything because you're too busy paying for coke to pay for your own shit
sorry uncle freddy
His irresponsibility is what made him awesome. If had been responsible and thought things through he wouldn't have ever been Fred Gall.
Fuck, especially now that I'm old and I'm constantly worrying about the lamest shit (retirement, rent, health insurance, groceries, etc.), I view Fred (and those like him) as inspiring. It would be amazing to quit my job and just live in a never-ending present.
Does Fred have a board out now? Did I somehow miss it on the Habitat website?
https://habitatskateboards.com/collections/decks
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so many shitty gofundme's out there that get paid, and when Slap's patron saint needs help, everyone throws their hands up? shut the fuck up and pay the man, we all owe
I don't owe him shit. He made his money and didn't pay his taxes and squandered what little he did have. Sorry I'm not an enabler.
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so many shitty gofundme's out there that get paid, and when Slap's patron saint needs help, everyone throws their hands up? shut the fuck up and pay the man, we all owe
I don't owe him shit. He made his money and didn't pay his taxes and squandered what little he did have. Sorry I'm not an enabler.
*found the scooter kid*
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true or not, it mentions that he cares for his ailing mother and uncle. If true, that is a heavy thing to have to deal with. Skip your venti latte or avocado toast and drop a 5er in the hat for Sir Fred.
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Not sure how $2,500 even makes a difference? He's really got no one in his life to loan him $2,500?
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"Yeah he saved a bunch of monks from a burning building in Cambodia but he didn't pay his taxes so fuck 'em." ::)
Fred is a dirtbag with a heart of gold. I think he's earned some help.
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A sixer of tall boys a day equals approximately $2,100. Freddy could probably cut out the booze and pay incrementally towards his own debt instead of panhandling.
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The IRS is no joke to deal with. Last year someone stole my wife's identity. We didn't know. Someone opened an Amazon store/site using her name and we got a tax bill for over $16K. My wife can barely sell stuff on Craig's list, much less run an Amazon store. For a bill like that they must have sold like $100k worth of stuff.
The IRS was worthless. I spent hours on the phone with them just getting bounced from person to person. I finally just paid an accountant $500 to make it go away. Such bull shit for something we had nothing to do with.
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I need to call the collections agency dammit
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The IRS is no joke to deal with. Last year someone stole my wife's identity. We didn't know. Someone opened an Amazon store/site using her name and we got a tax bill for over $16K. My wife can barely sell stuff on Craig's list, much less run an Amazon store. For a bill like that they must have sold like $100k worth of stuff.
The IRS was worthless. I spent hours on the phone with them just getting bounced from person to person. I finally just paid an accountant $500 to make it go away. Such bull shit for something we had nothing to do with.
the government is awesome isn’t it
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A sixer of tall boys a day equals approximately $2,100. Freddy could probably cut out the booze and pay incrementally towards his own debt instead of panhandling.
Freddy absolutely cannot cut out the booze. Everyone I know that has spent more than an hour with him has seen him drunkenly puke. He rarely even drinks water or eats, he just slams Heinekens all day. He wouldn't be able to survive going cold turkey.
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I had his thrasher cover on my wall for a decade, but he can go fuck himself if he can't figure out the IRS.
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Not sure how $2,500 even makes a difference? He's really got no one in his life to loan him $2,500?
The way I read his note he is saying that if he pays the $2500 installment by the Aug date they will knock out a portion of the 80k, a partial settlement so to speak. If he does not meet the deadline he is on the hook for the whole 80K.
If you ever voted for Fred in a poll put a $5 on him. As Mr. Olson would say - They owe!
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Fred Gall is a national treasure. If anyone has taken the time to read his handwritten note, it says that if he reaches his $2500 goal by August 15th the amount he owes is significantly reduced, and if he doesn't meet it he owes the full $80,000.
For all the love he gets on this board, I'd be shocked if he couldn't make this goal. If 100 people wanted to put up 25 bucks this could easily get knocked out in a day.
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(https://s15.postimg.cc/3zbhq62x7/6_DBCA029-2463-4256-8097-_E7_EB6_C75_A600.jpg)
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Niggaz worship Fred Gall but wont dig in them pockets. Slap just became a black southern church.
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Shout out to Ian from Jenkem for not only starting the GoFund me but actually donating 200 bucks. I get people have mixed feelings about Gofund Me's nowadays (As they should) and whats actually worth donating to. Like P-Stones and Johnny Jones being a no brainer and it showed by how many people donated and how much they went over their goal. While Furbys Girlfriend Gofund Me was a total Joke that made like 1% of their goal. I consider this one right in the middle where if you have a few bucks to spare why not. Freddy has got a lot of fans that can probably spare 5 bucks to help him. But granted if another page gets started after this regarding this same issue its no dice for me.
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I'd love to see what trouble some of you could get into getting 5 figure checks at 18-19.
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I'd love to see what trouble some of you could get into getting 5 figure checks at 18-19.
i would be dead.
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one more reason Freddy should be on FA so he can collect royalty checks. I’d be surprised if habitat has paid anyone a realistic amount of money since around the time they kicked Pluhowski off.
Free max b. And possibly fred.
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I just gave him $10. It's the least I could do. Slap community should rise to the occasion on this one. Every Fred Gall footage is gold.
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tempting... but I just cant bring myself to pay another man's taxes without at least getting a sticker or something.
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tempting... but I just cant bring myself to pay another man's taxes without at least getting a sticker or something.
Wait, you got a 'Hands Down' sticker? Guess I missed out
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tempting... but I just cant bring myself to pay another man's taxes without at least getting a sticker or something.
Maybe a Domestics sticker?
Seriously though, I'm living check to check more or less being the sole provider for my wife and infant, and I'm going to give $10-20 I save somewhere else until the date. Maybe my heart it's just soft because of the kindness strangers showed me in the pre-internet past.
Pstones is the only other go fund me I contributed what I could to.
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A sixer of tall boys a day equals approximately $2,100. Freddy could probably cut out the booze and pay incrementally towards his own debt instead of panhandling.
Maybe that plays a factor in how he manages his finances, no? 🤔
I’m kinda torn on all this tbh. On one hand, dealing with debt sucks & society doesn’t necessarily spoon feed financial literacy to the general public, so it sucks to see a fellow skater in that predicament (dealing with $80k to IRS no less)
On the other hand I’m like, this is a grown ass man in his thirty’s asking for donations on the internet to pay off his debt. Bro, there’s probably like 10 people who’ve viewed this thread alone who’re probably dealing similar circumstances and if any of them average Joes posted a gofundme, not a single person would give a fuck. Idc if he’s a legend at the end of the day you’re a GROWN ASS MAN. Make sacrifices, form better spending habits, & learn how to manage your money better. We all know his personality/lifestyle and that shit is not sustainable at his age w/ no major ventures outside of some skate sponsors. Time to adjust. Dude could get that full $80k right now and be another few G’s in the hole just a few months later if he doesn’t make those personal adjustments and truly learn how to manage his money.
I’m sure he’s going through it and I really do feel for him in that regard, but at the same time I’m like tough titty nigga, we all tryna make it out here. I got mouths to feed and if I’m giving money away, it ain’t gonna be to some dude who’s older than me who’s had a whole career & fanbase to work with prior to being in said predicament. ESPECIALLY if he’s a known drinker. Fuck that
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A sixer of tall boys a day equals approximately $2,100. Freddy could probably cut out the booze and pay incrementally towards his own debt instead of panhandling.
Maybe that plays a factor in how he manages his finances, no? 🤔
I’m kinda torn on all this tbh. On one hand, dealing with debt sucks & society doesn’t necessarily spoon feed financial literacy to the general public, so it sucks to see a fellow skater in that predicament (dealing with $80k to IRS no less)
On the other hand I’m like, this is a grown ass man in his thirty’s asking for donations on the internet to pay off his debt. Bro, there’s probably like 10 people who’ve viewed this thread alone who’re probably dealing similar circumstances and if any of them average Joes posted a gofundme, not a single person would give a fuck. Idc if he’s a legend at the end of the day you’re a GROWN ASS MAN. Make sacrifices, form better spending habits, & learn how to manage your money better. We all know his personality/lifestyle and that shit is not sustainable at his age w/ no major ventures outside of some skate sponsors. Time to adjust. Dude could get that full $80k right now and be another few G’s in the hole just a few months later if he doesn’t make those personal adjustments and truly learn how to manage his money.
I’m sure he’s going through it and I really do feel for him in that regard, but at the same time I’m like tough titty nigga, we all tryna make it out here. I got mouths to feed and if I’m giving money away, it ain’t gonna be to some dude who’s older than me who’s had a whole career & fanbase to work with prior to being in said predicament. ESPECIALLY if he’s a known drinker. Fuck that
Summed it up pretty well sk8d00d. I dig Freddy as much as the next guy but come on, sort ya shit out yourself. If this was anyone else there'd be nothing but scorn
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Damn, some of y'all niggas are heartless
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If skateboarding can buy Andy Roy new teeth, it can help keep Fred Gall out of jail.
$8k and counting so far!
https://www.gofundme.com/get-andy-roy-some-teeth (https://www.gofundme.com/get-andy-roy-some-teeth)
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A sixer of tall boys a day equals approximately $2,100. Freddy could probably cut out the booze and pay incrementally towards his own debt instead of panhandling.
Maybe that plays a factor in how he manages his finances, no? 🤔
I’m kinda torn on all this tbh. On one hand, dealing with debt sucks & society doesn’t necessarily spoon feed financial literacy to the general public, so it sucks to see a fellow skater in that predicament (dealing with $80k to IRS no less)
On the other hand I’m like, this is a grown ass man in his thirty’s asking for donations on the internet to pay off his debt. Bro, there’s probably like 10 people who’ve viewed this thread alone who’re probably dealing similar circumstances and if any of them average Joes posted a gofundme, not a single person would give a fuck. Idc if he’s a legend at the end of the day you’re a GROWN ASS MAN. Make sacrifices, form better spending habits, & learn how to manage your money better. We all know his personality/lifestyle and that shit is not sustainable at his age w/ no major ventures outside of some skate sponsors. Time to adjust. Dude could get that full $80k right now and be another few G’s in the hole just a few months later if he doesn’t make those personal adjustments and truly learn how to manage his money.
I’m sure he’s going through it and I really do feel for him in that regard, but at the same time I’m like tough titty nigga, we all tryna make it out here. I got mouths to feed and if I’m giving money away, it ain’t gonna be to some dude who’s older than me who’s had a whole career & fanbase to work with prior to being in said predicament. ESPECIALLY if he’s a known drinker. Fuck that
Summed it up pretty well sk8d00d. I dig Freddy as much as the next guy but come on, sort ya shit out yourself. If this was anyone else there'd be nothing but scorn
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I got it! Why doesn’t he just hit up the homie/team mate Stefan? He could make this go away.
For the record, I agree with Will 100% He’s a fucking grown ass man and enjoyed a lifestyle that 1% of the population get to enjoy, now he wants money for his mistakes / ignorance? Sorry Fred, no help will be coming from me.
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I got it! Why doesn’t he just hit up the homie/team mate Stefan? He could make this go away.
or any industry heads really, surely there's 25 people in the entire skate industry that would be able to drop $100 into Freddy's pocket no?
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What do you think about this photo though?
https://instagram.com/p/Bl4wJn2FWLq/
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What do you think about this photo though?
https://instagram.com/p/Bl4wJn2FWLq/
Is Freddy trying to lose his god like status on Slap. Pretty much committed two "no-no's" for Slap. One, beg for money basically with a GoFundMe and showing support for Daryl Angel.
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I bet half the ppl saying shit about Freddy not taking care of his shit prob don’t pay their own bills. I’ll throw him a few bucks I know what it’s like to be in a rough situation.
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I got it! Why doesn’t he just hit up the homie/team mate Stefan? He could make this go away.
Fred has probably gone too all those wells way too many times, if you're an adult you all have those friends that you love them from the past but you've had to say no more, and I bet Freddie is 100% that dude.
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Have we really come to a point in this world that its not hard to donated a couple of bucks to help a fellow skateboarder out? even if every member of slap donated a $1 it would take out a great chunk of this... I get its not the most ideal situation, I'm sure Freds not a single bit proud of the scenario, but dont kick the dude whilst he down
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grow the fuck up Fred.
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It should not be too hard for Adidas/Habitat to provide him $2500.
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I bet half the ppl saying shit about Freddy not taking care of his shit prob don’t pay their own bills. I’ll throw him a few bucks I know what it’s like to be in a rough situation.
HAHAHA. I pay all my own bills and that is why I won't throw him a few bucks.
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It should not be too hard for Adidas/Habitat to provide him $2500.
If they already seized his savings account, I'm assuming any paycheck he pulls is being garnished heavily by the IRS. I could be wrong. Most likely
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what a coincidence, i also dont like to pay taxes. would you guys be down to help me on a go fund me in ten years?
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damn i just gave my last $20 to Dan Pageau's retirement fund.
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what a coincidence, i also dont like to pay taxes. would you guys be down to help me on a go fund me in ten years?
Give us what Fred has then we'll talk.
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It should not be too hard for Adidas/Habitat to provide him $2500.
That same logic could be applied for the Gofundme campaign, if there is a will there's a way.
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that 80K is just gonna continue to balloon through penalties/late fees even if he makes this payment
freddy's next life hammer should be to fake his own death to get around this
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The irony is you have tom pay taxes on GoFundMe money.
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The irony is you have tom pay taxes on GoFundMe money.
(https://i.imgflip.com/2f11yw.jpg)
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This is kind of how "East Bound and Down" started, well, without the gofundme and all. I'd pay for an HBO subscription to watch this.
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I bet half the ppl saying shit about Freddy not taking care of his shit prob don’t pay their own bills. I’ll throw him a few bucks I know what it’s like to be in a rough situation.
HAHAHA. I pay all my own bills and that is why I won't throw him a few bucks.
Fred is a lifer. Sure, he could have sold out like most of us but he didn't. Could he have made some better decisions? Of course. But none of us have walked in his i-paths. Good for you for paying your bills...most people do. But you take the time to come and HAHA and say why you won't throw him a few bucks? Some of us are better at life than at skateboarding and the other way around. Fred has earned his respek.
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The irony is you have tom pay taxes on GoFundMe money.
I didn't know that. Who would be responsible for the tax bill on the money, the final recipient of the funds or the person that created the GoFund (if different like this one)? And what is the tax rate?
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The irony is you have tom pay taxes on GoFundMe money.
I didn't know that. Who would be responsible for the tax bill on the money, the final recipient of the funds or the person that created the GoFund (if different like this one)? And what is the tax rate?
He's wrong. GoFund is considered a personal gift. As long as it stays under something like 13-14k for the year it is not taxed. Go over that amount and it becomes income. As a donor, you can only deduct the donation if it is to a legit 501(c) charity org.
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I bet half the ppl saying shit about Freddy not taking care of his shit prob don’t pay their own bills. I’ll throw him a few bucks I know what it’s like to be in a rough situation.
HAHAHA. I pay all my own bills and that is why I won't throw him a few bucks.
Honestly I would argue that fred didnt sell out because by the time you could sell out, he was pretty much done professionally skating and was an alcoholic living off of his name. He wears adidas right now, and judging by this gofundme they dont pay him, im sure he would love to take a pay check from them but they arent offering.
"respek" to freddy I guess but i will never feel bad not giving to somebodys gofundme for personal mistakes.
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I bet half the ppl saying shit about Freddy not taking care of his shit prob don’t pay their own bills. I’ll throw him a few bucks I know what it’s like to be in a rough situation.
HAHAHA. I pay all my own bills and that is why I won't throw him a few bucks.
Honestly I would argue that fred didnt sell out because by the time you could sell out, he was pretty much done professionally skating and was an alcoholic living off of his name. He wears adidas right now, and judging by this gofundme they dont pay him, im sure he would love to take a pay check from them but they arent offering.
"respek" to freddy I guess but i will never feel bad not giving to somebodys gofundme for personal mistakes.
I feel ya and I'm not trying to guilt anyone into dropping their coin but of all the bullshit GFM pages this dude is on the short list for Slap support. Sure, if this is anything other than a one-time thing then by all means we should keep it moving.
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Look, we all love Fred, but c'mon, he was getting these checks when he was 18-19 years old. He's fuckin 40 now. What the hell were you doing with Ryan Clements as a financial adviser that this shit NEVER got cleared up?
And from the devil's advocate standpoint, a bunch of you are gonna sit there and torch Arto for the AMEX thing because you believe it will make young skaters think credit cards are cool in order to get them into "debt slavery". Yet, you think it's OK for a 20 year pro skateboarder to NOT pay his taxes and ask the public for money??? What the fuck does THAT teach any of these impressionable young up and coming kids? That it's OK to NOT be financially responsible for your life and then just ask others for money when you need it?? It's the same shit. You just hate AMEX because it's a corporation, and love Freddy because he's every skater's favorite skater.
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Granted, nobody gives two shits about me, but man I sure could have used gofundme money to get out of the financial jams I landed myself in.
Instead, I got a job, kept it, and paid them down slowly over time. It sucked, but I learned my lesson, to be sure.
I enjoy watching the different reactions to gofundme posts on here which are directly proportional to how cool someone is held to be in our culture.
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If skateboarding can buy Andy Roy new teeth, it can help keep Fred Gall out of jail.
$8k and counting so far!
https://www.gofundme.com/get-andy-roy-some-teeth (https://www.gofundme.com/get-andy-roy-some-teeth)
I’d pay big money to never see/hear about Andy Roy ever again.
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i hope this is a test and everyone who showed coldheartedness to fred is uninvited to his birthday party.
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sucks...get on a payment plan..we all fuck up but shouldn't have other pay for their mistakes. If this was a medical bill or something out of the ordinary i'd support it.
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All the bickering is great...
Based on his current pace- by this time next week, Fred will have surpassed his goal of $2500. Dude just made $1400 in 6 days LOL.
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but at the same time I’m like tough titty nigga,
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i wonder how jscott's go fund me is doing
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i wonder how jscott's go fund me is doing
Never made it past 2 bills and hasn't had any activity in 6 months.
https://www.gofundme.com/24jg8k-houstonla-chasin-my-dream-fulltime (https://www.gofundme.com/24jg8k-houstonla-chasin-my-dream-fulltime)
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At least he acknowledges he was a dumbass and isn't playing the victim card.
Definitely not giving him any of my hard earned money, but it's a nice change of pace.
Still can't believe pageau expected people to fund his retirement.
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what kind of sheep turn their back to his shepherd ?
burn in hell, evil mingy sheeps^^
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i wonder how jscott's go fund me is doing
Never made it past 2 bills and hasn't had any activity in 6 months.
https://www.gofundme.com/24jg8k-houstonla-chasin-my-dream-fulltime (https://www.gofundme.com/24jg8k-houstonla-chasin-my-dream-fulltime)
2 one dollar bills?
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The irony is you have tom pay taxes on GoFundMe money.
I didn't know that. Who would be responsible for the tax bill on the money, the final recipient of the funds or the person that created the GoFund (if different like this one)? And what is the tax rate?
The final recipient. My friend just had one because his house burned down
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I’m like tough titty nigga
;D. Haha
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people are typing on slap at work but it's 'hard earned money'.
keep fred gall's name out your mouth after this.
you expect a guy to revolutionize east coast switch skating, gap to grind the LOVE flatbar after smoking crack all night, mirror lennie kirk at hubba, crash cars on the brooklyn bridge, almost get hit w/ metal because lennie kirk is mouthing of in the projects, save monks on homemade scaffolding, prolly some other lives saved, shred for 30 yrs and be likeable AND PAY HIS TAXES?
holding irresponsibility against him is some milquetoast ass cowardice. 'oh but i pay my taxes' you philistine fucks.
you don't deserve heroes if you turn your back on them
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people are typing on slap at work but it's 'hard earned money'.
keep fred gall's name out your mouth after this.
you expect a guy to revolutionize east coast switch skating, gap to grind the LOVE flatbar after smoking crack all night, mirror lennie kirk at hubba, crash cars on the brooklyn bridge, almost get hit w/ metal because lennie kirk is mouthing of in the projects, save monks on homemade scaffolding, prolly some other lives saved, shred for 30 yrs and be likeable AND PAY HIS TAXES?
holding irresponsibility against him is some milquetoast ass cowardice. 'oh but i pay my taxes' you philistine fucks.
you don't deserve heroes if you turn your back on them
Says the human stray dog
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people are typing on slap at work but it's 'hard earned money'.
keep fred gall's name out your mouth after this.
you expect a guy to revolutionize east coast switch skating, gap to grind the LOVE flatbar after smoking crack all night, mirror lennie kirk at hubba, crash cars on the brooklyn bridge, almost get hit w/ metal because lennie kirk is mouthing of in the projects, save monks on homemade scaffolding, prolly some other lives saved, shred for 30 yrs and be likeable AND PAY HIS TAXES?
holding irresponsibility against him is some milquetoast ass cowardice. 'oh but i pay my taxes' you philistine fucks.
you don't deserve heroes if you turn your back on them
Says the human stray dog
I don't even know who we are anymore..
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people are typing on slap at work but it's 'hard earned money'.
keep fred gall's name out your mouth after this.
you expect a guy to revolutionize east coast switch skating, gap to grind the LOVE flatbar after smoking crack all night, mirror lennie kirk at hubba, crash cars on the brooklyn bridge, almost get hit w/ metal because lennie kirk is mouthing of in the projects, save monks on homemade scaffolding, prolly some other lives saved, shred for 30 yrs and be likeable AND PAY HIS TAXES?
holding irresponsibility against him is some milquetoast ass cowardice. 'oh but i pay my taxes' you philistine fucks.
you don't deserve heroes if you turn your back on them
I actually thought you were joking until the last two sentences.
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At least he acknowledges he was a dumbass and isn't playing the victim card.
Definitely not giving him any of my hard earned money, but it's a nice change of pace.
Still can't believe pageau expected people to fund his retirement.
making a go fund me is kinda like playing the victim tho. is he asking for help after he fucked himself
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It should not be too hard for Adidas/Habitat to provide him $2500.
Habitat posted the gofundme on their story, but scrolling through I didn’t see any donations from anyone significant.
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people are typing on slap at work but it's 'hard earned money'.
keep fred gall's name out your mouth after this.
you expect a guy to revolutionize east coast switch skating, gap to grind the LOVE flatbar after smoking crack all night, mirror lennie kirk at hubba, crash cars on the brooklyn bridge, almost get hit w/ metal because lennie kirk is mouthing of in the projects, save monks on homemade scaffolding, prolly some other lives saved, shred for 30 yrs and be likeable AND PAY HIS TAXES?
holding irresponsibility against him is some milquetoast ass cowardice. 'oh but i pay my taxes' you philistine fucks.
you don't deserve heroes if you turn your back on them
Says the human stray dog
I don't even know who we are anymore..
we are slap messages™
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It should not be too hard for Adidas/Habitat to provide him $2500.
Habitat posted the gofundme on their story, but scrolling through I didn’t see any donations from anyone significant.
Why would they put one of their oldest pros on blast for being broke, weird move.
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$$ has doubled since it was posted on here yesterday.
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what a fuckin child. I can't believe hie is celebrated by skater children and adults alike for his irresponsible and childish lifestyle.
donating to this go fund me is just another way that he'll land on his feet and not learn any lesson from his mistake.
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At least he acknowledges he was a dumbass and isn't playing the victim card.
Definitely not giving him any of my hard earned money, but it's a nice change of pace.
Still can't believe pageau expected people to fund his retirement.
making a go fund me is kinda like playing the victim tho. is he asking for help after he fucked himself
Yeah I see where you're coming from , he's asking for help when it's completely his fault that he's in this situation, but at least he admits that it's his fault and isn't attempting to deflect the blame.
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what a fuckin child. I can't believe hie is celebrated by skater children and adults alike for his irresponsible and childish lifestyle.
donating to this go fund me is just another way that he'll land on his feet and not learn any lesson from his mistake.
This is one of the craziest things about skateboarding. We celebrate and encourage the shit out of people who are completely blowing it at (creating a superficial and stale suburban) life, but after we get our entertainment out of them we say, "Well you should have been more responsible."
What an amazing catch-22. If the skaters were more "responsible" (read: neo-liberal business minded weasels) we'd collectively hate them (see Nyjah, Sheckler, P-Rod, Jagger Eaton, Dyrdek, etc.), but when they are "irresponsible" we love them until they need any help. Something about this seems really fucked up.
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I'd love to see what trouble some of you could get into getting 5 figure checks at 18-19.
This comment is hilarious
As if I should feel bad for someone who was a financially irresponsible teenager making more money than many adults compared to the other 90% of people that age working shitty minimum wage jobs
FOH
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FA needs to put Freddy and Wenning on so the Photo/Mosaic era fans can stop pretending to love the shell of what Habitat used to be in 2002.
Would you really rather see Fred Gall go to prison for being an idiot when collectively it would be fairly easy to keep him out. We've all made moronic decisions in life and many of us continue to. Some of us have been fortunate enough to have someone help us when we needed it. If you've ever been to jail / prison you woundnt wish it on anyone.
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$$ has doubled since it was posted on here yesterday.
I told you all and I'm right this shit will be paid probably by tonight despite your bickering.
I've loved dude since Sub Zero but C'mon....
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I feel like you can probably tell who in this thread is a parent of young children, based entirely off their answers. Any parent trying to raise a child to learn about responsibility and consequences, is probably against giving to this Go Fund Me.
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When is the next lump sum payment due?
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dude got $1800 already
see you in a few months to do it again?
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what a fuckin child. I can't believe hie is celebrated by skater children and adults alike for his irresponsible and childish lifestyle.
donating to this go fund me is just another way that he'll land on his feet and not learn any lesson from his mistake.
This is one of the craziest things about skateboarding. We celebrate and encourage the shit out of people who are completely blowing it at (creating a superficial and stale suburban) life, but after we get our entertainment out of them we say, "Well you should have been more responsible."
What an amazing catch-22. If the skaters were more "responsible" (read: neo-liberal business minded weasels) we'd collectively hate them (see Nyjah, Sheckler, P-Rod, Jagger Eaton, Dyrdek, etc.), but when they are "irresponsible" we love them until they need any help. Something about this seems really fucked up.
What are you talking about? I see constant praise for skateboarders that set themselves up for life outside of skateboarding. It's been eight years since Heath Kirchart retired, and people still marvel at the fact that he invested and set himself up to retire on his terms. And I challenge you to find a Mark Suciu interview where he isn't asked about higher education. I think there's a pretty big gap between being a functioning adult and being among the stratosphere of the pros you listed.
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I donated some money because I have a feeling most of this debt is from when he was starting to make money late 90s early 00s. most skateboard companies hire you as an independent contractor so they don't withhold what you owe the IRS. it makes it seem like ur earning a shit load of cash but actually its regular money. you go a few years without paying your taxes and nothing really happens, then all of a sudden it becomes a problem. if he was making enough to owe 80k from the last 10 years then he's been doing extremely well for himself. but somehow I doubt that. the people in here trying to tar and feather Freddy for being Freddy are lame. yeah he made some bad decisions sometimes. thats what he does. doesn't make him a bad person or undeserving of some gofundme cash. he's one of my favorite skaters but I can't remember the last time ive owned one of his boards. habitat needs to get on that and make some nice ones with his name on it.
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It's a joke started by Jenkem just to see how quickly we can turn on one of our own. His(&all pro skaters) lifestyle was glorified in the 90s/early 00s when they're dropping content and jackass etc is front and center. Now that his switch back 5s aren't as long everybody is like "fuck em - I had to get a job so he should too". We all had to get jobs because we weren't good enough at skating and sure if we would have got a shoe check we would all stash away the 30-40% for taxes. Maybe he fucked up, got assets seized and now has garnished paychecks all while being the sole provider for his mom and uncle. life sucks and sometimes people get in shitty situations. If he ODs or his liver bursts tonight everybody would be on here celebrating his life and what a free spirit and the essence of skating etc. Just like you have plenty of skaters that have gone too soon through the years because of bad decisions/thier own fault. Fred is a legend because of how he did. If he did it some other way he would another geek nobody talks about.
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It gets worse
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl4ywjMlx3J/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1fpupa4sa38rw
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It gets worse
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl4ywjMlx3J/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1fpupa4sa38rw
"No no no, dude. I said im trying to beat my IRS case, not beat my ex's face..."
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I feel like you can probably tell who in this thread is a parent of young children, based entirely off their answers. Any parent trying to raise a child to learn about responsibility and consequences, is probably against giving to this Go Fund Me.
I have little kids and I tossed in $20. Responsibility, sure, but also empathy. Also my cc company immediately alerted me to possible fraud because of the transaction lol
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Him hanging out with Daryl Angel during the promotion of this GoFundMe does seem like a cunning sociological experiment designed to implode Slap.
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Kinda weird he hasn't posted about on his Instagram, or posted a link at all.
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Ready for that Go Fund Me part to drop though. I'd pay for that.
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Fred's skateboarding is special and I wish he could figure out a way to keep that going as a side hustle. I for one would pay $100.00 for a series of urban skate missions with the man. I picture it being like a skateboard school for degenerate adults. The Fred Gall Experience sounds like a great weekend to me...
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If he tapes, and posts him beating up Daryl I'll donate a good chunk of my lunch money
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It's a joke started by Jenkem just to see how quickly we can turn on one of our own. His(&all pro skaters) lifestyle was glorified in the 90s/early 00s when they're dropping content and jackass etc is front and center. Now that his switch back 5s aren't as long everybody is like "fuck em - I had to get a job so he should too". We all had to get jobs because we weren't good enough at skating and sure if we would have got a shoe check we would all stash away the 30-40% for taxes. Maybe he fucked up, got assets seized and now has garnished paychecks all while being the sole provider for his mom and uncle. life sucks and sometimes people get in shitty situations. If he ODs or his liver bursts tonight everybody would be on here celebrating his life and what a free spirit and the essence of skating etc. Just like you have plenty of skaters that have gone too soon through the years because of bad decisions/thier own fault. Fred is a legend because of how he did. If he did it some other way he would another geek nobody talks about.
Womp Womp
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Joe Castrucci dropped $200. Back on Habitat confirmed
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If he tapes, and posts him beating up Daryl I'll donate a good chunk of my lunch money
In fact, fuck it. I'll pay the entire remainder of whatever is owed if Frederick does the Fosters car park boogie with Daryl.
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Is it possible to have him canonised, recognised as a charity for tax exemption, and skateboarding doing the proper thing with the Olympics and only sending one guy?
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I donated 100 dollars because I love fred. Next month he will have to come up with another chunk of money and probably wont get it and end up in jail. The fact he was teammates with Drydek for years makes me think Fred just doesn't give a fuck. Im sure Drydek gave him tons of advice and helped him. Fred we love you but shit caught up
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sounds like a you problem freddie
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
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what a fuckin child. I can't believe hie is celebrated by skater children and adults alike for his irresponsible and childish lifestyle.
donating to this go fund me is just another way that he'll land on his feet and not learn any lesson from his mistake.
This is one of the craziest things about skateboarding. We celebrate and encourage the shit out of people who are completely blowing it at (creating a superficial and stale suburban) life, but after we get our entertainment out of them we say, "Well you should have been more responsible."
What an amazing catch-22. If the skaters were more "responsible" (read: neo-liberal business minded weasels) we'd collectively hate them (see Nyjah, Sheckler, P-Rod, Jagger Eaton, Dyrdek, etc.), but when they are "irresponsible" we love them until they need any help. Something about this seems really fucked up.
What are you talking about? I see constant praise for skateboarders that set themselves up for life outside of skateboarding. It's been eight years since Heath Kirchart retired, and people still marvel at the fact that he invested and set himself up to retire on his terms. And I challenge you to find a Mark Suciu interview where he isn't asked about higher education. I think there's a pretty big gap between being a functioning adult and being among the stratosphere of the pros you listed.
First, in relation to Mark Suciu's education and his image in skateboarding, the first interview that popped up on Google states, "Mark Suciu is not your typical pro. Despite having a board on Habitat and a signature shoe on adidas, Mark is continuing his education. In the summer of 2015, he moved to New York to focus on completing his undergrad degree; he’s currently in his final year" (http://theberrics.com/mark-suciu-inspired-by/). The interview starts off framing Mark as unique because he is going to college. I'm going to guess that Suciu is is basically in the same spot Rattray was in 10 years ago. He is celebrated for being an outlier in a subculture that promotes not thinking about the future. It reminds me of the episode of the Boondocks where Thugnificant congratulates Huey for reading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvjCGgG26CI
Second, you'll always be able to find a few dudes who developed good exit plans (Heath) or just got insanely lucky post-fucking around (or had mommy and daddy's money to support them post-career so they look "responsible"), but I think it is hard to argue that being responsible is a solid selling point for most pros/ams. Think of the brands that most of us grew up wishing we could be on Baker, Anti-Hero, enjoi, etc. a significant part of what made those brands and the skaters awesome was the fact that they didn't give a fuck. There are dudes from those companies that sobered up and reduced the craziness, but the partying, hijinks, and irresponsibility is what made them so marketable in the first place.
I agree Dyrdek, Eaton, Sheckler, Lutzka, etc. are extremes, but I don't think being Mr. Responsible is going to help the decks fly off the shelves. Finally, if you want we could actually solve this shit scientifically (rather than relying on anecdotal evidence). One way might be to look at which skaters are most celebrated and hated on Slap in the past month (#of positive comments vs # negative comments) and then measure how "future oriented" or "present oriented" each skater was based on their recent interviews (and maybe video parts). We would need to think up a way to measure "thinking about the future" and "living in a never ending present," but I would bet that the skaters who overtly think about the future get shit on far more often than those who fuck around in the present.
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100 bucks says he spends all this gofundme money on booze and coke. He ain't paying the IRS. Jokes on us
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Good idea for next round.
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He made it y'all. Looks like uncle freddy's gonna be allright.
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He made it y'all. Looks like uncle freddy's gonna be allright.
Fred Gall.
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Thats Blabacs deal. I don't make a cent from those.
Bummer Fred didn't keep up on his taxes. Shit is no joke. Maybe i should have done a gofundme when Philly extorted me for hella money...
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Thats Blabacs deal. I don't make a cent from those.
Bummer Fred didn't keep up on his taxes. Shit is no joke. Maybe i should have done a gofundme when Philly extorted me for hella money...
But, it's Philly. Always will be. Love it, hate it, but always Love it
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That's exactly what I imagined Freddy's handwriting to look like.
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Thats Blabacs deal. I don't make a cent from those.
Bummer Fred didn't keep up on his taxes. Shit is no joke. Maybe i should have done a gofundme when Philly extorted me for hella money...
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Wasnt aware of that arrangement or if that’s the norm. However, youd think maybe the photog would cut Freddy some slack given the situation and allow him to have a run of some print to get him out of the jam?
I always found it odd that the photog gets all the credit for the photo, and the skate gets “nothing” – hell get exposure and maybe an incentive from his sponsors or something, but without the skater, theres no photo, so Id figure / assume it be shared so to speak.
Skate politics.
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Thats Blabacs deal. I don't make a cent from those.
Bummer Fred didn't keep up on his taxes. Shit is no joke. Maybe i should have done a gofundme when Philly extorted me for hella money...
Wasnt aware of that arrangement or if that’s the norm. However, youd think maybe the photog would cut Freddy some slack given the situation and allow him to have a run of some print to get him out of the jam?
I always found it odd that the photog gets all the credit for the photo, and the skate gets “nothing” – hell get exposure and maybe an incentive from his sponsors or something, but without the skater, theres no photo, so Id figure / assume it be shared so to speak.
Skate politics.
Not really. If you commission an artist to paint a portrait of you, you are by NO MEANS a "shared owner" for that piece of work. You'd still have to buy it from the artist. Same deal.
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Thats Blabacs deal. I don't make a cent from those.
Bummer Fred didn't keep up on his taxes. Shit is no joke. Maybe i should have done a gofundme when Philly extorted me for hella money...
Wasnt aware of that arrangement or if that’s the norm. However, youd think maybe the photog would cut Freddy some slack given the situation and allow him to have a run of some print to get him out of the jam?
I always found it odd that the photog gets all the credit for the photo, and the skate gets “nothing” – hell get exposure and maybe an incentive from his sponsors or something, but without the skater, theres no photo, so Id figure / assume it be shared so to speak.
Skate politics.
Not really. If you commission an artist to paint a portrait of you, you are by NO MEANS a "shared owner" for that piece of work. You'd still have to buy it from the artist. Same deal.
https://youtu.be/b7lbshD_ess?t=10s
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wonder why he didnt sell some signed prints to make some cash, kinda like Kalis did recently. sw 50 down hubba woulda been nice.
That probably go over better than a go fund me.
Thats Blabacs deal. I don't make a cent from those.
Bummer Fred didn't keep up on his taxes. Shit is no joke. Maybe i should have done a gofundme when Philly extorted me for hella money...
Wasnt aware of that arrangement or if that’s the norm. However, youd think maybe the photog would cut Freddy some slack given the situation and allow him to have a run of some print to get him out of the jam?
I always found it odd that the photog gets all the credit for the photo, and the skate gets “nothing” – hell get exposure and maybe an incentive from his sponsors or something, but without the skater, theres no photo, so Id figure / assume it be shared so to speak.
Skate politics.
Not really. If you commission an artist to paint a portrait of you, you are by NO MEANS a "shared owner" for that piece of work. You'd still have to buy it from the artist. Same deal.
https://youtu.be/b7lbshD_ess?t=10s
Beautiful youtube usage.
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(http://www.wingclips.com/system/movie-clips/happy-gilmore/grandmas-taxes/images/happy-gilmore-movie-clip-screenshot-grandmas-taxes_large.jpg)
It's not too late to become a pro golfer
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I would consider donating $1.67 for every second of new Fred Gall footage.
-No B-roll. Only style and hams.
-Street footage only.
-Must be filmed exclusively in I-Paths
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BmanyuvFiow/?taken-by=freddygall (https://www.instagram.com/p/BmanyuvFiow/?taken-by=freddygall)
LOL
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So he's in Berlin and expects other people to foot his bills...
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You really expect him to NOT hang out in berlin and drink with Olsen? The guy isn't dying. I'm sure there's tons of people that are still willing to pay his tabs.
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yeah kinda a crazy idea, but when im broke, i dont go on vacation.
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This reminds me of several people I know here in LA. They're HIV positive and living on full disability and in section 8 housing. They won't work because it would overwhelm their immune system. Every other IG photo is of them on some 15 day cruise or snowboarding somewhere fabulous.
I'm not saying Fred Gall is HIV positive, but I am saying that you idiots giving to his gofundme are purchasing him a ticket to Berlin to hang with the legendary Olson and have a beer in lieu of paying down his IRS debt.
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Fuck Fred. Dude spent his money on a ticket to berlin and fucked us
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This reminds me of several people I know here in LA. They're HIV positive and living on full disability and in section 8 housing. They won't work because it would overwhelm their immune system. Every other IG photo is of them on some 15 day cruise or snowboarding somewhere fabulous.
I'm not saying Fred Gall is HIV positive, but I am saying that you idiots giving to his gofundme are purchasing him a ticket to Berlin to hang with the legendary Olson and have a beer in lieu of paying down his IRS debt.
Hahaaa and he's got his own custom beer releasing soon... Fred living the dream out here.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmCQe4mlq_j/?taken-by=freddygall (https://www.instagram.com/p/BmCQe4mlq_j/?taken-by=freddygall)
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hahaha your lord and savior Fred gall fucked you idiots donating to another mans tax bill meanwhile having to STILL pay your own. This nigga taking trips and all and you got nothing out of it but a beer photo. Fred Gall aint nothing but a glorified insta thot that is EXTREMELY GOOD at skateboarding at this point.
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If the payments are that high then he owes a lot. I imagine it feels like an endless, Sisyphean task. Good luck, Fred.
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or you know, maybe he got his tickets to Berlin paid for? would sound logical
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on the first page of slap theres a thread about CPH PRO Berlin that I'd imagine all of you have seen and iirc, its fairly major and he attends it every year. maybe put two and two together?
not even sure why you guys are trying to tar the dude for going to a contest he's suppose to be at anyways.
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or you know, maybe he got his tickets to Berlin paid for? would sound logical
He should be walking around the town square in a burlap sack sprinkling ashes over his head and ringing a bell yelling "SHAME!" over and over until his debt is paid.
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It's sort of his job to go on skateboarding trips. I feel like my $10 went to a good cause.
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^Yes. Thank heavens we get to see more photos of Fred Gall drinking around the world. #dirtswin
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It's sort of his job to go on skateboarding trips. I feel like my $10 went to a good cause.
Adidas sent even sent Tim O'Connor, who's busy these days producing podcasts once every 6 months.
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or you know, maybe he got his tickets to Berlin paid for? would sound logical
He should be walking around the town square in a burlap sack sprinkling ashes over his head and ringing a bell yelling "SHAME!" over and over until his debt is paid.
Oh I wouldn't be surprised if he had done just that quite a few times before, also with the debt as the last thing on his mind.
Maybe even last night in Berlin.
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I'm just curious why he hasn't thanked the collective community for bailing him out?
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What’s the levels of donating to go fund me? I’m just curious here. Y’all shitted on everyone else
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I didn't donated $10 to see Fred Gall become an honest working class citizen, I donated the money so he can feed us more content of him pilling out.
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get this: pro skater's sponsors just might have sent him overseas to attend a contest.
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Fred said he paid his taxes with the money donated - he said he sent a check last week, and thanks everyone. I told him to publicly post something on Insta thanking everyone who helped out. He hasn't, but hope he does at some point.
in terms of CPH that was w/ the Boardr and their help - unrelated to the tax issue.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmiw0TTlmYc/
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Hold up
It took 6 pages of this to even consider a sponsor flew out uncle Freddy
Y’all really went against your own uncle ? Slap cmon
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so they are off my back for now until my next payment
See you all next month.
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The good thing is that he's certainly learned his lesson because he faced his consequences like a grown up and dealt with life on life's terms.
I can't imagine, after this learning experience, that he'll ever miss another payment again because whose going to be there to bail him out next time?
Not us sycophants, that's for sure!
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Dirts Win!
Saving up my allowance as we speak.