Author Topic: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans  (Read 23585 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

augustmoon

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 4343
  • Rep: 795
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2017, 10:34:18 AM »
Ty is such a drama queen, jfc
Quote
Fuck brandon biebel... The lemon thrower

MexicanSpaniard

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 16091
  • Rep: 694
  • S&H
  • SLAP OG SLAP OG : Been around since SLAP was a mag.
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2017, 10:57:55 AM »
exactly what I expected to see as far as responses and the fact that I stopped watching the trailer at 36 seconds

(girl skits have always been fucking stupid IMO)

Budgie Lasek

  • Guest
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2017, 11:23:20 AM »

(girl skits have always been fucking stupid IMO)

I feel pretty much the same. They overdid it with the skits. Spike's influence, obviously.

shit_for_brains

  • Guest
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2017, 12:09:26 PM »
Expand Quote
Expand Quote
Expand Quote

Yeah Right sucked too. I think younger generations remember it fondly out of nostalgia, but that's the video where the Crail camp started to suck. Overproduced claptrap.
[close]

Thank you. I remember watching Yeah Right for the first time with a couple friends... they loved it, and I came away from the viewing much less a fan of Girl etc than I was before watching it.
[close]
Fuck outta here, give me Yeah Right! over Mouse any day of the week.
[close]

Woah woah woah I'm fine with anyone liking Yeah Right, but what?!

This is absolutely insane

Betaphenylethylalamine

  • Trade Count: (-2)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 3297
  • Rep: -138
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2017, 12:20:55 PM »
Yeah right over Mouse??? No fuckin way

That's like the revolution over questionable
Gentleman ninja warlock

howtotictac

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 198
  • Rep: 12
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2017, 01:09:33 PM »
Expand Quote

(girl skits have always been fucking stupid IMO)
[close]

I feel pretty much the same. They overdid it with the skits. Spike's influence, obviously.

It's hard to say how  would react to it now but when Mouse came out, Rick Howard skating in the forest, mini Keenan, Brothas From Different Mothas, etc... That shit was mind blowing. Up to Yeah Right I never skipped the skits.

sharkbarf

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 349
  • Rep: 2
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2017, 02:35:04 PM »
Ty has hit the ceiling with all his toys and rigs. And that water drop fetish he has is getting old and repetitive. This just feels like he tries to use as much gear as possible for each trick.

It would be good to see what he can pull off with just the normal hd and fisheye rig these days.

And what’s up with this Ghost Cinema company? Is it under Girl? Looks like their old logo.

yungthug

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 1511
  • Rep: -32
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2017, 02:55:30 PM »
Fully Flared is a masterpiece.

nothingisspecial

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
  • Rep: -53
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2017, 03:03:10 PM »
Ty has hit the ceiling with all his toys and rigs. And that water drop fetish he has is getting old and repetitive. This just feels like he tries to use as much gear as possible for each trick.

It would be good to see what he can pull off with just the normal hd and fisheye rig these days.

And what’s up with this Ghost Cinema company? Is it under Girl? Looks like their old logo.

He’s not hitting the ceiling, he is the ceiling... don’t you think it’s cool how much he cares about cameras and equipment and filming skateboarding? He’s his own genre.

Also it’s about using the latest toys and rigs so as skateboarding media continues to evolve, so will ty and his videos... he’s single handily responsible for bringing a lot of new technology into the sport. He’s helping grow skateboarding into something larger I️ fucking love it.

Side note: Why is everyone always dogging on using new video cameras (drone, steady cam) and editing styles-

but no one seems to mind if literally every other aspect of skateboarding is improving/gets improved?

From the actual skateboards themselves to the clothing aspect which ties into brands...  all the way up to the internet which has made everything in the culture universal and more accessible. All progression, all good.

But seems like everyone hates Ty on here. Why? If you look into the future Ty is a visionary and he’s allowed/allowing skateboarding to evolve into something more cinematic ... slowly but surely people follow his lead.

I️ am and will be confused about this because he has something to offer IMO and I️ see a lot of older cameras and played out editing styles that are honestly just the flavor of the month, vanilla and boring...

Bottom line - Ty moving forward with or without the opinions, just don’t understand why people so damn against it.

Sorry for ranting just thinking about this a lot lately.

I️ totally understand everyone has their (globe) opinion

Donkey Lips

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 8477
  • Rep: 991
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2017, 03:22:27 PM »
He’s not hitting the ceiling, he is the ceiling... don’t you think it’s cool how much he cares about cameras and equipment and filming skateboarding? He’s his own genre.
No. And saying "he is the ceiling" is the dumbest fucking comment ever.

Also it’s about using the latest toys and rigs so as skateboarding media continues to evolve, so will ty and his videos... he’s single handily responsible for bringing a lot of new technology into the sport. He’s helping grow skateboarding into something larger I️ fucking love it.
That's cool that you love it. But other people, with other opinions, hate it. He was not the lone person introducing new technology into skate filming. But obviously you feel that way because you've got eyes for Ty Evans for some fucking reason.

Side note: Why is everyone always dogging on using new video cameras (drone, steady cam) and editing styles-

but no one seems to mind if literally every other aspect of skateboarding is improving/gets improved?
We aren't. We praise lots of new things and new techniques. But mostly, we praise and celebrate creativity that has it's merits. See also: 'Spirit Quest', for a case study of using technology creatively, and editing in a cohesive and interesting way. People love that shit because it's new, interesting, and isn't a fucking 6,000 fps slow-down gimmick.

From the actual skateboards themselves to the clothing aspect which ties into brands...  all the way up to the internet which has made everything in the culture universal and more accessible. All progression, all good.
Cool. But this is kind of a pointless observation about the internet's impact on skateboarding...I guess?
 
But seems like everyone hates Ty on here. Why? If you look into the future Ty is a visionary and he’s allowed/allowing skateboarding to evolve into something more cinematic ... slowly but surely people follow his lead.

I️ am and will be confused about this because he has something to offer IMO and I️ see a lot of older cameras and played out editing styles that are honestly just the flavor of the month, vanilla and boring...

Bottom line - Ty moving forward with or without the opinions, just don’t understand why people so damn against it.
Alright, we've established you have a candle lit shrine of Ty Evans in your Mom's basement and that you think about him, and peoples' opinions of him a lot. But I'll pose a question to you - why do you feel like he's leading anything other than the masturbatory overuse of slower and slower video clips?

I think it's more plausible that the dislike for Ty Evans comes from him being completely and totally out of touch with what skateboarders seem to want to watch, and how they want to watch it. Ty is great at showcasing skateboarding in a way that Volvo could use the clips and editing in their next commercial. Ty is increasingly worse and worse at making skateboard videos that skateboarders want to watch.

« Last Edit: November 16, 2017, 03:25:45 PM by Donkey Lips »

GAY

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 15992
  • Rep: 3336
  • Those that SLAP, can't.
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2017, 03:49:36 PM »
YOU WANT CEILING? HUH?

YOU WANT FUCKING CEILING?
 
I AM THE FUCKING CEILING, Y'GOT THAT?

I AM THE FUCKING CEILING!

nothingisspecial

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
  • Rep: -53
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2017, 04:06:14 PM »
Expand Quote
He’s not hitting the ceiling, he is the ceiling... don’t you think it’s cool how much he cares about cameras and equipment and filming skateboarding? He’s his own genre.
[close]
No. And saying "he is the ceiling" is the dumbest fucking comment ever.

Expand Quote
Also it’s about using the latest toys and rigs so as skateboarding media continues to evolve, so will ty and his videos... he’s single handily responsible for bringing a lot of new technology into the sport. He’s helping grow skateboarding into something larger I️ fucking love it.
[close]
That's cool that you love it. But other people, with other opinions, hate it. He was not the lone person introducing new technology into skate filming. But obviously you feel that way because you've got eyes for Ty Evans for some fucking reason.

Expand Quote
Side note: Why is everyone always dogging on using new video cameras (drone, steady cam) and editing styles-

but no one seems to mind if literally every other aspect of skateboarding is improving/gets improved?
[close]
We aren't. We praise lots of new things and new techniques. But mostly, we praise and celebrate creativity that has it's merits. See also: 'Spirit Quest', for a case study of using technology creatively, and editing in a cohesive and interesting way. People love that shit because it's new, interesting, and isn't a fucking 6,000 fps slow-down gimmick.

Expand Quote
From the actual skateboards themselves to the clothing aspect which ties into brands...  all the way up to the internet which has made everything in the culture universal and more accessible. All progression, all good.
[close]
Cool. But this is kind of a pointless observation about the internet's impact on skateboarding...I guess?
 
Expand Quote
But seems like everyone hates Ty on here. Why? If you look into the future Ty is a visionary and he’s allowed/allowing skateboarding to evolve into something more cinematic ... slowly but surely people follow his lead.

I️ am and will be confused about this because he has something to offer IMO and I️ see a lot of older cameras and played out editing styles that are honestly just the flavor of the month, vanilla and boring...

Bottom line - Ty moving forward with or without the opinions, just don’t understand why people so damn against it.
[close]
Alright, we've established you have a candle lit shrine of Ty Evans in your Mom's basement and that you think about him, and peoples' opinions of him a lot. But I'll pose a question to you - why do you feel like he's leading anything other than the masturbatory overuse of slower and slower video clips?

I think it's more plausible that the dislike for Ty Evans comes from him being completely and totally out of touch with what skateboarders seem to want to watch, and how they want to watch it. Ty is great at showcasing skateboarding in a way that Volvo could use the clips and editing in their next commercial. Ty is increasingly worse and worse at making skateboard videos that skateboarders want to watch.

Oh my god. Ok first go hug your dad. Maybe change your diaper...

Why so angry Donkey Lips? Loved your show...

Just asking some questions dude, all the hate seems unwarranted TO ME. Guy made fully flared which was THE SHIT ...

You don’t like what he does, so that makes it shit? Asking honestly...

Maybe I think what you like is boring but you wont see me on here talking shit about gay porn or saying it’s bad..

Seem like-

The anger towards Ty Evans > whatever Ty Evans did to skateboarding to deserve all the hate

Brb gotta go light my candles

jeremyrandall

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 2072
  • Rep: 67
    • Ninetimes Skate Shop avatar image
  • Bronze Topic Start Bronze Topic Start : Start a topic with over 1,000 replies.
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2017, 10:26:19 PM »
I only watched the first 45 seconds or so. Up until this point, I was rooting for Foy for SOTY but if he's taking part in this corny ass wank fest fuck it, give it to Louis or Tiago. That shit was entirely lame. Quit smelling your own farts Ty

Hate to break it to you but who do you think that is in front of the Brazilian flag at 1:37?

Silky Johnson

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 5359
  • Rep: 1362
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #103 on: November 17, 2017, 03:23:10 AM »
Expand Quote
I only watched the first 45 seconds or so. Up until this point, I was rooting for Foy for SOTY but if he's taking part in this corny ass wank fest fuck it, give it to Louis or Tiago. That shit was entirely lame. Quit smelling your own farts Ty
[close]

Hate to break it to you but who do you think that is in front of the Brazilian flag at 1:37?
Carlos Iqui

givecigstosurfgroms

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 7013
  • Rep: -958
  • User posts join approval queueModerated
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #104 on: November 17, 2017, 02:54:03 PM »
  I was suprised to hear people so into yeah right, -yeah right was the beginning of the downhill slide for crail.  The lead up to that video sucked. The Green motif sucked.  Combo of horrible skits and Ty Evans seemingly artistically stunted in the project by the company or spike.  I was a fan of his trans world stuff.   Ginos switch backside 180 and his whole part tho.  I don't remember one other thing about that video.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 02:56:05 PM by givecigstosurfgroms »
"I just care about the river, I dont care about your back"

hello?

  • Guest
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #105 on: November 17, 2017, 04:29:26 PM »
the whole making skate videos that appeal to non skateboarders needs to stop

this  ::)

ImportantGuy

  • Guest
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #106 on: November 17, 2017, 05:03:49 PM »
Fully Flared is a masterpiece.
Nahhhhh. Masterpieces age well.

Owen

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 3272
  • Rep: 302
    • My Photos avatar image
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #107 on: November 17, 2017, 05:44:10 PM »
Expand Quote
I only watched the first 45 seconds or so. Up until this point, I was rooting for Foy for SOTY but if he's taking part in this corny ass wank fest fuck it, give it to Louis or Tiago. That shit was entirely lame. Quit smelling your own farts Ty
[close]

Hate to break it to you but who do you think that is in front of the Brazilian flag at 1:37?

I didn't watch that far. Sucks for Tiago if so. Looks like there's no other option, Fred Gall is 2017 SOTY. 
Jorts
Anklets
Rat tails
Sling shots
Toe rings
Shuv it tail grabs
Jump ramps

Chippedwood

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 128
  • Rep: -82
  • Bronze Topic Start Bronze Topic Start : Start a topic with over 1,000 replies.
    Silver Topic Start Silver Topic Start : Start a topic with over 5,000 replies.
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #108 on: November 17, 2017, 05:58:19 PM »
how ya gonna make a million dollar skate movie and use microsoft wordart for the title?
yeah i watch tons of flat earth videos, this was probably the worst flat earth video i've ever seen, there is no narration explaining why they are fooling us, but from the drone the earth does look flat af

PincherBug

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 1255
  • Rep: -102
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #109 on: November 17, 2017, 06:15:11 PM »
Expand Quote
Expand Quote
He’s not hitting the ceiling, he is the ceiling... don’t you think it’s cool how much he cares about cameras and equipment and filming skateboarding? He’s his own genre.
[close]
No. And saying "he is the ceiling" is the dumbest fucking comment ever.

Expand Quote
Also it’s about using the latest toys and rigs so as skateboarding media continues to evolve, so will ty and his videos... he’s single handily responsible for bringing a lot of new technology into the sport. He’s helping grow skateboarding into something larger I️ fucking love it.
[close]
That's cool that you love it. But other people, with other opinions, hate it. He was not the lone person introducing new technology into skate filming. But obviously you feel that way because you've got eyes for Ty Evans for some fucking reason.

Expand Quote
Side note: Why is everyone always dogging on using new video cameras (drone, steady cam) and editing styles-

but no one seems to mind if literally every other aspect of skateboarding is improving/gets improved?
[close]
We aren't. We praise lots of new things and new techniques. But mostly, we praise and celebrate creativity that has it's merits. See also: 'Spirit Quest', for a case study of using technology creatively, and editing in a cohesive and interesting way. People love that shit because it's new, interesting, and isn't a fucking 6,000 fps slow-down gimmick.

Expand Quote
From the actual skateboards themselves to the clothing aspect which ties into brands...  all the way up to the internet which has made everything in the culture universal and more accessible. All progression, all good.
[close]
Cool. But this is kind of a pointless observation about the internet's impact on skateboarding...I guess?
 
Expand Quote
But seems like everyone hates Ty on here. Why? If you look into the future Ty is a visionary and he’s allowed/allowing skateboarding to evolve into something more cinematic ... slowly but surely people follow his lead.

I️ am and will be confused about this because he has something to offer IMO and I️ see a lot of older cameras and played out editing styles that are honestly just the flavor of the month, vanilla and boring...

Bottom line - Ty moving forward with or without the opinions, just don’t understand why people so damn against it.
[close]
Alright, we've established you have a candle lit shrine of Ty Evans in your Mom's basement and that you think about him, and peoples' opinions of him a lot. But I'll pose a question to you - why do you feel like he's leading anything other than the masturbatory overuse of slower and slower video clips?

I think it's more plausible that the dislike for Ty Evans comes from him being completely and totally out of touch with what skateboarders seem to want to watch, and how they want to watch it. Ty is great at showcasing skateboarding in a way that Volvo could use the clips and editing in their next commercial. Ty is increasingly worse and worse at making skateboard videos that skateboarders want to watch.
[close]

Oh my god. Ok first go hug your dad. Maybe change your diaper...

Why so angry Donkey Lips? Loved your show...

Just asking some questions dude, all the hate seems unwarranted TO ME. Guy made fully flared which was THE SHIT ...

You don’t like what he does, so that makes it shit? Asking honestly...

Maybe I think what you like is boring but you wont see me on here talking shit about gay porn or saying it’s bad..

Seem like-

The anger towards Ty Evans > whatever Ty Evans did to skateboarding to deserve all the hate

Brb gotta go light my candles

You clever fuck.

Don't gay porn shame.

ImportantGuy

  • Guest
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #110 on: November 17, 2017, 06:39:51 PM »
Ty's shit is making you guys so emotional. He must be doing something right.

Righteous Victim

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 822
  • Rep: 110
  • Get yourself looked at.
    • Letterboxd avatar image
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #111 on: November 17, 2017, 06:49:43 PM »
Yes, this is what he had in mind.

tobey

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 5414
  • Rep: 5
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #112 on: November 18, 2017, 08:19:57 AM »
All the old dudes hating this shit but don't realize these type of videos are for kids. Remember that jenkem bit where they interviewed kids in New York and almost all of them said Pretty Sweet was their favorite video?



givecigstosurfgroms

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 7013
  • Rep: -958
  • User posts join approval queueModerated
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #113 on: November 18, 2017, 08:30:51 AM »
All the old dudes hating this shit but don't realize these type of videos are for kids. Remember that jenkem bit where they interviewed kids in New York and almost all of them said Pretty Sweet was their favorite video?




  So you're saying if you realize this type of video is "for kids" you will no longer be one of "All the old dudes hating"?
 Maybe you're right that the video is for kids but I'm not gonna watch it anyway. 
 It's healthier for our society I feel, if we do not market to 'kids'.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2017, 08:35:54 AM by givecigstosurfgroms »
"I just care about the river, I dont care about your back"

tobey

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 5414
  • Rep: 5
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #114 on: November 18, 2017, 01:13:29 PM »
Expand Quote
All the old dudes hating this shit but don't realize these type of videos are for kids. Remember that jenkem bit where they interviewed kids in New York and almost all of them said Pretty Sweet was their favorite video?



[close]

  So you're saying if you realize this type of video is "for kids" you will no longer be one of "All the old dudes hating"?
 Maybe you're right that the video is for kids but I'm not gonna watch it anyway. 
It's healthier for our society I feel, if we do not market to 'kids'.

What you think a skateboard does?

givecigstosurfgroms

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 7013
  • Rep: -958
  • User posts join approval queueModerated
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #115 on: November 18, 2017, 02:45:19 PM »
Expand Quote
Expand Quote
All the old dudes hating this shit but don't realize these type of videos are for kids. Remember that jenkem bit where they interviewed kids in New York and almost all of them said Pretty Sweet was their favorite video?



[close]

  So you're saying if you realize this type of video is "for kids" you will no longer be one of "All the old dudes hating"?
 Maybe you're right that the video is for kids but I'm not gonna watch it anyway. 
It's healthier for our society I feel, if we do not market to 'kids'.
[close]

What you think a skateboard does?
 
  At the end of the day you're right by insinuating skating markets to kids to stay afloat.   But it was the adult aspect to skate culture that drew me to it in the 80s when I was a kid. 
 
"I just care about the river, I dont care about your back"

Manolo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 3317
  • Rep: 467
    •  avatar image
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #116 on: November 18, 2017, 03:41:21 PM »
The problem with guys using too much technology and gadgets is that 99% of the time you get lost in it,
you get lost trying to control technical things and it overcomes the creative part of making a movie/video.
That's why most of these videos end up looking like tv commercials. And also why most of old school people don't like it, it looks corporate, which is the opposite of what the essence of skateboarding was in the beggining. 

tobey

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 5414
  • Rep: 5
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #117 on: November 18, 2017, 04:29:03 PM »
The problem with guys using too much technology and gadgets is that 99% of the time you get lost in it,
you get lost trying to control technical things and it overcomes the creative part of making a movie/video.
That's why most of these videos end up looking like tv commercials. And also why most of old school people don't like it, it looks corporate, which is the opposite of what the essence of skateboarding was in the beggining. 


There is always going to be people who make underground videos and less hi tech videos, vote with your dollar. I mean is anyone looking forward to a new Chase Web part? This is just Ty's video, he obviously has a demographic for these videos, mainly kids. I'm just saying there's literally nothing to bitch about or lose sleep over. I don't know, maybe I just don't care. Ill watch it if its on youtube and say the slow mo was overused. I really don't care for anyone in this video

heritage

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 3203
  • Rep: 98
  • Bronze Topic Start Bronze Topic Start : Start a topic with over 1,000 replies.
    Silver Topic Start Silver Topic Start : Start a topic with over 5,000 replies.
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #118 on: November 18, 2017, 04:40:38 PM »
Ty's shit is making you guys so emotional. He must be doing something right.

Was just thinking this. For so many people not liking it and not caring, this got a lot of attention and a few emotional responses. I like what Ty does, I can appreciate it for exactly what it is.

EDIT: Well said Tobey.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2017, 04:42:55 PM by heritage »

Swithflip

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • SLAP Pal
  • ******
  • Posts: 4449
  • Rep: -748
  • User posts join approval queueModerated
Re: "The Flat Earth" video by Ty Evans
« Reply #119 on: November 18, 2017, 04:50:12 PM »
Only thing I dont like in Pretty Sweet is Mariano Part.