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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2012, 08:01:14 PM »
I had a problem similar to this, i had a infestation of fuckin earwigs in my basement, and it was strongest in the bedroom, anyways im sawing logs and i wake up at like 4am and i feel shit crawling all over my skin, and i get outta bed and i literally have 15-20 of these fuckers on me and a shit tonne on my sheets and blanket, i don't think they bite or anything but it fucking sucked donkey chode trying to sleep after that.

They are fairly easy to get rid of though, i think i killed like 500 inside and outside of my house and now i see one maybe every two days and i kill the fucking shit outta the bugger


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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2012, 10:31:31 PM »
this thread is making me feel like I have bugs on my body and one crawled up my pee hole, and laid eggs

avoid the amazon river, pretty much every creature there wants to swim up your urethra.

I've never had a problem with bed bugs but on more than one occasion i've had huge problems with spiders. i'm not scared of spiders i actually quite like spiders, i think they are fascinating but i do not like waking in the middle of the night because literally hundreds of spiders are descending from the ceiling and onto my face. a spider must have laid eggs in my room somewhere and they hatch and scurry of in all directions. spending the night ridding your room of hundreds of tiny spiders does not lead to a rested landcow.


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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2012, 11:06:47 PM »
dude, i wouldn't even bring clothes to your mom's house. If you already don't have much, go to a thrift shop and buy a few pairs of pants and a couple shirts. The monetary cost is nothing compared to an infestation at home.

Traveling on trains in Asia, my ex got them twice. Once 3 years ago in Thailand and again, this past May, in India. She had to dump everything. Luckily, I guess, she's from Colombia, living in the States for the time being and doesn't have all that many possessions, but damn, from what she said, it is a shitty experience. Good luck.   

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2012, 01:20:34 AM »
Dude they are fucked I had them for months gnarly huge welt like things all over my body. They fucked off for ages then I moved out of my parents place and my old man was hanging out in my old room and got fucked up on the bed. They got an exterminator and everything was fine from then on. I got them in sydney on a friends couch he got from ebay so typical. Girls will think you have the germ get it sorted fast

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2012, 01:38:14 AM »
at a hostel in granada they sprayed all the rooms and beds with shit they said wasnt toxic. then my friend got bit by bed bugs the same night, all night long. shitty.

my parents brought me back a case of 12 different micro brew root beers from temecula, i had it in my room for a few weeks. i opened it today and theres a lot of thick spider webs in there. instant visions like the intro to arachnaphobia, these things could be anywhere in my room. i also saw a rat on my porch yesterday while i ate dinner. lastly there is a large moth somewhere in my room, and my long hair is all over my room so i keep thinking the moth is walking all over me. this thread isnt helping either.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2012, 04:03:48 AM »
dude, i wouldn't even bring clothes to your mom's house. If you already don't have much, go to a thrift shop and buy a few pairs of pants and a couple shirts. The monetary cost is nothing compared to an infestation at home.
I actually visited her two weeks ago for dinner, when I was getting the bites but didn't suspect they were bed bugs yet, but I was definitely infested at the time. Anyways, she told me she hasn't gotten any bites or anything, so I'm guessing I didn't spread it to her.

But anyways, I just got to my moms place a little bit ago after a long day of work. Gonna be staying with her for a bit until I can figure out for sure what to do with the bedbug problem. I'm tight on money right now so I can't afford an exterminator at the moment. I did bring a little bit of clothes (just two pairs of pants and two shirts, underwear and a pair of socks) but I made sure to check them thoroughly for any bed bugs and fanned them out multiple times, then I made sure to tie them up in plastic bags and put them out in direct sun light for an hour or so. Then I put them in my trunk while I was at work and my car was parked outside, and it was about 100 degrees out today, which would mean the temperatures in the trunk had to have been pretty extreme, and I'm guessing the heat killed any bed bugs off that might have possibly been on my clothes. I think I should be good. Right now the clothes are in the washer and I'm about to put them in the dryer at high setting for one hour. If there are by chance any that survived from the sunlight and trunk treatment hopefully the dryer kills them all off. I think I should be good. I really hope none followed me here, because if they end up spreading here then my mom is gonna have to deal with them which I would feel bad about, and I pretty much have no where left to go.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2012, 11:20:31 PM »
^ the dryer will kill them at all stages of their life cycle, including adults, nymphs and eggs, everything else you mentioned, I'm skeptical about, though finding bedbugs in any stage of life in clothing is atypical, as they usually find a place that's consistently a comfortable walking distance from where you sleep, i.e. tufts in your mattress/box spring, under baseboards especially if your bed is touching that wall, and sometimes even between cracks in picture frames adjacent to the bed, though running your clothes through a dryer is always a good precaution, especially if you feel your dresser's close enough to your bed to provide solid harborage. So go ahead and grab all the clothes you need, dry them at the place you're currently staying at or a laundromat and then bag them up before zipping over to the parent's place.

Using temperature as a cultural control won't be very useful, especially in an apartment setting. They'll find their ways into wall voids under the baseboards, through electrical outlets, or any other possible structural pathway they can before the room ever gets anywhere near the kill temperature. Even in a home where a company might be able to tarp off a house and heat it up, who knows how long it would take to heat the wall, ceiling and floor voids, attic and crawl space to such temperatures.

In an apartment setting using heat treatment, they'll just be spread to another unit and may come back.

The pest control company I work for has had incredible success using a combination of fumigation and residual insecticides, and often times also incorporating fogging apparatuses (different from bug bombs, as the technician will actually be walking through, targeting potential nesting areas, and eliminating the likeliness of bb's migrating to safer places.

Basically, you'd load up all of your material possessions and furniture into a U-Haul truck, we'd then fumigate the truck with all of your belongings in it with a chemical called Methyl Bromide. Meanwhile, we'd treat all possible cracks and crevices of the household with the aforementioned fogging apparatus. The fogging apparatus will kill them completely on contact in all stages of their life cycle, including the egg stage, and as I said before, the PCO will be targeting any potential hiding places- in extreme infestations we might even drill pinholes in walls to inject the fog into the voids. We'd then apply any of a number of residual insecticides labeled for use against bedbugs, which would nip in the butt any bb's that might have survived the assault in their egg stage.

As for identifying them by bite or bite pattern, that's impossible unless you have the bites examined by an entomologist. Generally, they're similar to mosquito AND flee bites, as they all possess piercing-sucking mouth parts, the difference in puncture size would be microns. Plus, everyone reacts differently to the enzymes all 3 of these insects release into a bite, so there's no real telling by sight, as the swelling and irritation that may occur isn’t uniform person-to-person, unlike observing effects of a spider’s venom. In theory the bed bug sometimes leaves behind a straight line of bites as it actually walks along your sheet, biting you without actually walking on your skin, though flees and mosquitoes also frequently leave behind a trail of bites, as the first bite they deliver might not be incredibly fruitful, and if you’re sound asleep enough as to not disturb them, the path they form might also be straight.

It's really important to find evidence that they're there, being either the bugs or nymphs themselves, the caste skins left behind after molts, or their excrement- near wherever they're nesting, they'll leave blackish red dots about 1/8th of an inch across as they shit out your blood. If you have a box spring mattress, it would be advised to remove the bottom cloth from the box spring and carefully examine it inside and out, as that's where I typically find them.

If you've found one nymph, odds are, there're more on the way, as one female can lay up to 12 eggs a day.

I know the methods I describe sound extreme, but these things really do fucking suck, as several pals on here can attest. It really does take professional help to eliminate them, unless you really want to execute maniacal search-and-destroy missions, nightly.

If it's an apartment, go door to door and ask other tenants if they've too been experiencing this, if they have, it's the apartment managements' problem to resolve- if they fail to take action, move. If you're already intending on moving, call around and see if anywhere would conduct the fumigation portion of what I described during the transition into the new place.

The company I work for provides this service typically for under a grand. I know it's a bit spendy, but it beats buying everything you had and owned all over again, I advise you call around and find a company that offers a similar service.

Sorry to all the pals that felt or were told that they had to discard all of their home furnishings.

Hopefully some of this info was helpful and not just completely redundant.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2012, 04:44:33 AM »
That was very useful Eric, thank you for writing that. Someone earlier in this thread said to use boric acid, would that work? I have some that i use for roaches, I was thinking about dusting some cracks and crevices with it if it does work.

So today while I was taking my daily afternoon shit, I began pondering of ways to better fight against bed bugs. an idea came to me. An idea that might be able to help all of you out there with bed bugs. It's cheaper than hiring an exterminator, and if you are like me and tight on cash and cant afford an exterminator it might help you out a bit before you can get one (cause lord knows with what i am paid i probably won't be able to afford one for a while). First, I don't know if you have a box spring or not, but get rid of it. Get rid of your head board too, that is a common place that they can hide. Go out and get one of these.

A metal bed frame. No wood. They cost anywhere from 100-200 bucks, but you can probably find a cheaper one at Big Lots or any other kind of discount store if you look hard enough.
Before you put your mattress on it, inspect it thoroughly to make sure that there are no bed bugs on it. When it's on the bed frame, isolate it to the center of the room or as close to the center as possible. Just make sure the bed is not leaning up against a wall. When this is done, buy double sided tape and tape the bottom of the frame legs where the ground meets the leg. Hell, wrap the whole leg if you want. When the bugs try to crawl up  to your bed they should get stuck to the tape, thus catching them and stopping them from biting you while you sleep. I shall try this when i get home from staying at my moms, but i suggest to those of you with bed bugs to go out and give it a try, who knows. Of course, this is only to trap them while you are on your bed. If you have couches or anything else with legs you can tape up, i suggest you isolate the couch or any other piece of furniture and tape the leg. And of course if the infestation is advanced enough it won't get rid of all of them, but it will help, and at least it will help you to sleep better knowing you're not getting bit while you sleep. Who knows, maybe if the infestations isn't bad enough and they haven't multiplied yet you may just be able to get rid of all of them.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2012, 10:17:33 AM »
Boric acid works in two possible ways, by ingestion during grooming, and on contact. Unlike cockroaches, ants, termites, etc., bed bugs have piercing/sucking mouth parts, and therefor aren't capable of grooming themselves in a manor that would result in ingestion. And as for contact, it's heavily debated amongst specialists in bed bugs whether or not that's effective, as when bed bugs move, they're actually often moving around on very fine hairs, avoiding direct contact with these types of insecticides, though it's speculated that when they bed down they'll rest their abdomen on the insecticide and it may then be absorbed, but even then it's also said the amounts absorbed into the system by contact may not be enough to effect the bed bugs, as their exoskeleton produces a greasy residue that will break down the chemical before it's absorbed completely, though I suppose it couldn't hurt, and you'll be controlling all the other potential insect pests aforementioned. I've never used dusts for bed bugs but I know other companies do, so maybe it works better than I'd imagine in theory. It'd be interesting to hear how effective it is.

The bedding tactic you're describing should work pretty well if you've got a lot of patience, and you're on a budget. Only added suggestion is that you purchase a plastic mattress cover, and seal the zipper with tape, and keep in mind that bb's in extreme cases have been found to live up to 18 months without a blood meal. Though I'd advise you to just keep your mattress, not touching, but sort of near the walls where it once was, so that any bugs or newly hatched nymphs that might be hiding in that general area will be readily caught in the tape as they try to locate you in your usual spot.

Once all adults are captured, your work is pretty well cut out for you, as they're only capable of reproduction in their adult stage, and the nymphs require a blood meal in order to undergo each of their 5 instars (molts) between hatching and maturing to adulthood, their reproductive stage.

As I said though, they may survive long periods of time without feeding, so it could take quite a while and an incredible amount of diligence to resolve the issue by trapping, but it should ultimately prove effective if you simply can't afford to call in the air-strike. Even then, it's still advised that you call around and look into whether or not there's any nearby pest control companies with a fumigation tank that could treat your mattress at a cost lesser than a new mattress, unless you want to keep it in plastic for 2 years or so.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2012, 04:35:51 PM »
if i was high right now i would be extremely terrified after reading all this. luckily im just moderately terrified.

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2012, 06:06:51 PM »
I used to think they weren't a big deal at all. I would hear about them and just think "what's the big deal? They're just tiny bugs",
but once you have them, it's a whole different story. Boy was I wrong. That shit leaves you a paranoid mess; I haven't gotten more than four hours of sleep in the last few days; I stay up all night worrying about the bugs and what I'm gonna do for the long run of the problem.
My mind is officially in war mode now though. Fuck them, they aren't winning.

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2012, 09:32:45 PM »
Man, I wouldn't sweat it too hard. Just stick to the plan. I know waking up with bites is no fun, but if it eases your worry, they're not known to carry any pathogens, so you're not going to get sick from them or anything. You're aware of what they are, and you're being proactive, so you shouldn't lose sleep worrying that the infestation might escalate to those seen in episodes of Hoarders.

Here's my DIY tips since you've stressed that hiring a PCO is simply out of your price range:

If you have furniture in your room beyond your bed, picture frames hanging on walls nearby or any other item that may promote harborage, disassemble it the best you can and steam clean every crack and crevice conceivable, and run through the dryer every fabric item you can fit in there while you're doing this.

In combination with the trapping technique you're employing and steaming, you could also conduct a chemical treatment with a residual I've had pretty good luck with in knocking down infestations called Demand CS that's approved and sold for household bedbug treatments, that you can't find in stores, but you can purchase on Amazon. It comes in a concentrate that requires dilution and equipment, so you're gonna want to also purchase a quality 1 gallon air-pressure sprayer from either Amazon or a hardwear store. The total for both items should come to no more than about $50, and you'll use nowhere near all of the concentrate during the treatment, so you can repurpose the chemical for exterior perimeter sprays around yours and/or your parents house or wherever for general insect control, probably for the rest of your adult life as one treatment typically takes roughly a month before natural degradation breaks down the chemical; in fact, for the first application you'll probably only use 1/8-1/4 of a gallon treating the interior cracks and crevices for bedbugs, and you can use the rest for exterior pavement ants or whatever.

AFTER steam cleaning (you don't want to vaporise the insecticide by steam-cleaning it), use the chemical, carefully fallowing the instructions printed on the label for bed bug control.

Again, the points of debate regarding the effectiveness of dust applications also applies to sprays, but this one in particular should do the job at least better than borax or most other over-the-counter insecticides, and it beats employing just trapping as the sole, or primary tactic.

It would be highly recommended to involve your roommate in this process, and get him on board to assist you in doing this in all rooms of your place, even if there's no observable indication that they've migrated to these areas yet, better safe than sorry. The process should take about one weekend if you both eat ur' wheaties.

In your financial situation, this is the plan most economically viable and most likely to succeed that I could piece together for you, short of hiring a trained professional. Once again, hope this is feasible, or at least helpful.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2012, 10:52:40 AM »
I was worried about having them for a little while but have found no sightings of them yet. Was paranoid for awhile and friends who have had them talked me down. Then a friend who had stayed over before I thought anything of my bumps called and said that he had two cases of a few bumps on his face he thought were pimples till I said anything. The bumps are about the size of very small pimples and almost look like they have a clear head to them. Not sure really what to do since I can't find any definite signs of bed begs.

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2012, 10:56:52 AM »
I had to deal with these fuckers a couple of summers ago and here's some tips that I picked up:

Wash all your clothes on the highest temperature when you wash them. The heat kills the eggs and any bugs that might be there.

Pack any of your shit you think might have bedbugs in plastic boxes and GET RID OF ANY CARDBOARD BOXES YOU CAN. Those shits love to live in the little crevices in cardboard. Take the plastic boxes and stick them in your car. Park said car in a parking lot on a hot day with lots of sun and leave all the windows up. The heat kills them pretty well.

HIRE AN EXTERMINATOR. It's worth it and he'll explain all this shit to you pretty well.

If you find a lot of them on or around your bed, it's best you throw it out and buy a cheap air matress. The bedbugs can't live in the plastic of a air bed.

DON'T SWITCH THE ROOM YOU SLEEP IN. I started sleeping on the couch after I noticed them in my bed and those fuckers took over the couch too. It might suck, but stay in the room where those fuckers are already in.

You're not going to get rid of them by going around and spraying them with some shit or smashing them. There's always going to be more hiding somewhere. If you live in apartments, alert your manager asap and get them to hire an exterminator because your neighbors probably have them too.

Try not to worry about it too much. I know that you'll probably stress out about it and lose sleep, but try to keep it cool.

Sorry if they're in a weird order or hard to understand, but I hope I helped!

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2012, 06:29:41 PM »
Had another friend say he had two red bumps that itched after sitting on my couch in my room. I still have found no evidence to bed bugs besides tiny black specs under my mattress that are scattered and look like lint or fuzz. I check every day and even went as far as cutting open my box spring. If this was bed bugs how long could I go with seeing no hard evidence?

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2012, 10:04:20 PM »
^ red, itchy bumps may also be caused by fleas or mosquito's (mosquito's especially in this summer weather), and the time it takes between being bitten to the bite showing inflammation and irritation varies person to person, so "after sitting on your couch" isn't very conclusive evidence, as he could have been bitten by anything hours prior. Not saying you don't have them, but your friends and yourself shouldn't give into some hysteria, either.

Carefully inspect tufts in the couch itself and the cushions with a flashlight, inch by inch if you're really concerned or convinced you may have them. The frequency of feeding varies, the average being about once a week if there's a consistant food source (you sleeping in the same bed, nightly), though most likely more frequently than that now since their metabolism increases during the warmer, summer season, to probably once every 4-7 days or so. It's tough to pin an exact duration on this, as even entomologists who's studies focus primarily on bedbugs continue to heavily debate such particulars.

If you're anything like me, you probably recieve a mosquito or flea bite more often than every 4-7 days, and as I said earlier, it would take an entomologist looking through a microscope to differenciate a bedbug bite from other blood suckers. Just continue inspecting semi-frequently if you still suspect bedbugs may be the culprit. If your findings turn up inconcluse, don't sweat it so much.

Archers' method of trapping using double-sided tape could also prove to be a useful method of monitoring whether or not bed bugs are present to begin with. If the couch is the primary place of concern, put a band of double-sided tape around all 4 legs, and then don't utilize the couch for a couple weeks or so, inspecting the tape regularly. If they get hungry and still sense your presence by either the CO2 or body heat you emit, they'll attempt to migrate toward you and get stuck on the tape.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2012, 10:12:32 PM »
The mattress  couch was old and ugly as fuck so it was kinda hard to look through it real well. I had been wanting to toss it for awhile so just did that. My mom helped me look again and pretty much again anything black was just fuzz looking. Also I found it odd that pretty much all bumps besides like one were on only my left arm and only my tattoos so I did a little bit of research and read that other people also get raised bumps on their already healed tattoos that itch. My girlfriend sat on the same couch and also slept on me bed and she came away with absolutely nothing. My friend who had bed bugs as a kid and said he was very allergic sat on the same couch and nothing so I guess I just have to wait it out.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2012, 10:48:11 PM »
Was just editing my previous post while you made your latest one. Bumping, because the new intel may prove useful if the concern arises again, or could be used to make sure the new couch isn't being boarded by any potential blood-loving denizens of the night. Good to hear about the tattoo being a viable source of the bumps. A simple issue with the skin isn't something I'd really taken into consideration.
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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2012, 08:17:59 AM »
Yeah woke up this morning and no new bumps so going to continue to look but try and stay positive that maybe I was intact wrong and my friends are buying into the hysteria.

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Re: Bed Bugs
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2012, 04:33:07 PM »
This is the scariest thread on slap. Read this shit last night, halfway through i noticed i was itching the shit out of three small bumps in a line on my foot...thanks for the sleepless night you fuckers.

Really though, to the dude(s) with bedbugs, that sucks and I hope you fix dat shit
She takes it in the butt a lot now though so I suppose everything worked out.