2022 unpopular opinion thread

[work_lurker]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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lmao what the hell is this


People that hate on Andy (yourself included) are doing so based on his character and his actions/behavior. That's like, pretty much the only reasonable basis to dislike someone. Comparing that to how minorities are treated is sus as hell.

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Wait wut?

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Hating on an individual for the way they behave does not conflict with thinking that skateboarding should be inclusive to minorities/sub-groups.

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Let me clarify:

I don't like hearing about his shape. His style of skating doesn't appeal to me. I think he gets more scrutiny for doing tricks that don't look good/traditional than people from other areas of skating do. Any time he puts out anything at all he gets dragged through the mud here.

Andy is clearly a white dude and not from the LGBTQ+ community, so he is from a highly represented demographic. It's not a 1:1 comparison. In terms of skateboarding, he does tricks from a weird realm that isn't considered common and mixes it with stuff that sorta is. He surrounds himself with people that are not "cool". I wasn't clear on that as it was a morning shit post.

Simply put I just wish people would make it less of a point contributing to toxic dialogue about the things they dislike, whatever that may be. Endless circle jerks hating on && (or whatever) are just karma-farming opportunities none of the actual dialogue does anything positive. I am definitely guilty of this myself and often think back to how when I was a kid getting into skating there wasn't space to like things that were not considered cool or normal, which extended to styles and disciplines of skating. It was this immature, exclusive dialogue that has gotten far better over time, but still pops up and I wish it didn't.

I'm sorry, you may be in the wrong place here if toxic dialogue and disliking are not your cup of tea. I can understand disliking circle jerks though. Always hard to get hard with the homies.

[BurgerCop]

Did Andy Anderson do something bad besides not having cool style/attitude?
Was he a dick to somebody or do something sketchy?
I'm no AA fanboy, I'd agree he's kind of a nerd and I'd never buy one of his decks, but I don't hate him or anything...

[IpathCats]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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lmao what the hell is this


People that hate on Andy (yourself included) are doing so based on his character and his actions/behavior. That's like, pretty much the only reasonable basis to dislike someone. Comparing that to how minorities are treated is sus as hell.

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Wait wut?

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Hating on an individual for the way they behave does not conflict with thinking that skateboarding should be inclusive to minorities/sub-groups.

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Let me clarify:

I don't like hearing about his shape. His style of skating doesn't appeal to me. I think he gets more scrutiny for doing tricks that don't look good/traditional than people from other areas of skating do. Any time he puts out anything at all he gets dragged through the mud here.

Andy is clearly a white dude and not from the LGBTQ+ community, so he is from a highly represented demographic. It's not a 1:1 comparison. In terms of skateboarding, he does tricks from a weird realm that isn't considered common and mixes it with stuff that sorta is. He surrounds himself with people that are not "cool". I wasn't clear on that as it was a morning shit post.

Simply put I just wish people would make it less of a point contributing to toxic dialogue about the things they dislike, whatever that may be. Endless circle jerks hating on && (or whatever) are just karma-farming opportunities none of the actual dialogue does anything positive. I am definitely guilty of this myself and often think back to how when I was a kid getting into skating there wasn't space to like things that were not considered cool or normal, which extended to styles and disciplines of skating. It was this immature, exclusive dialogue that has gotten far better over time, but still pops up and I wish it didn't.

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I'm sorry, you may be in the wrong place here if toxic dialogue and disliking are not your cup of tea. I can understand disliking circle jerks though. Always hard to get hard with the homies.

Not for me, all my bros cute AF

[skate_or_dingus]

 This is legitimately one of my favourite edits of the last decade and I return to it way too often:

[TwisT]

This is legitimately one of my favourite edits of the last decade and I return to it way too often:

Damn, that was delightful!

What happened to TFS? wasn't like ownership dispute or something when the brand started to take off?

[work_lurker]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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lmao what the hell is this


People that hate on Andy (yourself included) are doing so based on his character and his actions/behavior. That's like, pretty much the only reasonable basis to dislike someone. Comparing that to how minorities are treated is sus as hell.

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Wait wut?

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Hating on an individual for the way they behave does not conflict with thinking that skateboarding should be inclusive to minorities/sub-groups.

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Let me clarify:

I don't like hearing about his shape. His style of skating doesn't appeal to me. I think he gets more scrutiny for doing tricks that don't look good/traditional than people from other areas of skating do. Any time he puts out anything at all he gets dragged through the mud here.

Andy is clearly a white dude and not from the LGBTQ+ community, so he is from a highly represented demographic. It's not a 1:1 comparison. In terms of skateboarding, he does tricks from a weird realm that isn't considered common and mixes it with stuff that sorta is. He surrounds himself with people that are not "cool". I wasn't clear on that as it was a morning shit post.

Simply put I just wish people would make it less of a point contributing to toxic dialogue about the things they dislike, whatever that may be. Endless circle jerks hating on && (or whatever) are just karma-farming opportunities none of the actual dialogue does anything positive. I am definitely guilty of this myself and often think back to how when I was a kid getting into skating there wasn't space to like things that were not considered cool or normal, which extended to styles and disciplines of skating. It was this immature, exclusive dialogue that has gotten far better over time, but still pops up and I wish it didn't.

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I'm sorry, you may be in the wrong place here if toxic dialogue and disliking are not your cup of tea. I can understand disliking circle jerks though. Always hard to get hard with the homies.

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Not for me, all my bros cute AF

I'd give you a fist bump for that, but I see your hands are busy.. 

[Billy Bitchcakes]

People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

Being inclusive of marginalised groups doesn't mean you have to be inclusive of historically lame shit. Skateboarding is cool, gender minorities skating is cool, male skaters being better educated on how to welcome and engage with said people is cool. && is decidedly not cool when held up against what has always been considered 'respected' in skate culture. Nothing wrong with a bit of gatekeeping and keeping the whack stuff at arm's length IMO. Stinking circus tricks and trick list notebooks aren't protected classes last time I checked.

[LebowskisRug]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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Being inclusive of marginalised groups doesn't mean you have to be inclusive of historically lame shit. Skateboarding is cool, gender minorities skating is cool, male skaters being better educated on how to welcome and engage with said people is cool. && is decidedly not cool when held up against what has always been considered 'respected' in skate culture. Nothing wrong with a bit of gatekeeping and keeping the whack stuff at arm's length IMO. Stinking circus tricks and trick list notebooks aren't protected classes last time I checked.

Uhh, this logic is so fucking full of holes. So it's OK for the marginalized groups that are brought in to add to "what's cool" and become the gatekeepers they were one repressed by? If anything the LGBTQ+ scene definitely has a lot of sponsored or pro skaters doing pretty "not cool" tricks that would definitely be circus tricks.

[Welpok]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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lmao what the hell is this


People that hate on Andy (yourself included) are doing so based on his character and his actions/behavior. That's like, pretty much the only reasonable basis to dislike someone. Comparing that to how minorities are treated is sus as hell.

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Wait wut?

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Hating on an individual for the way they behave does not conflict with thinking that skateboarding should be inclusive to minorities/sub-groups.

[close]

Let me clarify:

I don't like hearing about his shape. His style of skating doesn't appeal to me. I think he gets more scrutiny for doing tricks that don't look good/traditional than people from other areas of skating do. Any time he puts out anything at all he gets dragged through the mud here.

Andy is clearly a white dude and not from the LGBTQ+ community, so he is from a highly represented demographic. It's not a 1:1 comparison. In terms of skateboarding, he does tricks from a weird realm that isn't considered common and mixes it with stuff that sorta is. He surrounds himself with people that are not "cool". I wasn't clear on that as it was a morning shit post.

Simply put I just wish people would make it less of a point contributing to toxic dialogue about the things they dislike, whatever that may be. Endless circle jerks hating on && (or whatever) are just karma-farming opportunities none of the actual dialogue does anything positive. I am definitely guilty of this myself and often think back to how when I was a kid getting into skating there wasn't space to like things that were not considered cool or normal, which extended to styles and disciplines of skating. It was this immature, exclusive dialogue that has gotten far better over time, but still pops up and I wish it didn't.

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I'm sorry, you may be in the wrong place here if toxic dialogue and disliking are not your cup of tea. I can understand disliking circle jerks though. Always hard to get hard with the homies.

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Not for me, all my bros cute AF

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I'd give you a fist bump for that, but I see your hands are busy.. 

[Mean salto]

Having multiple hardware sponsors is kinda chat. Hardware companies not making bolts, bearings and griptape is also kinda chat.

[WavyDavy]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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Being inclusive of marginalised groups doesn't mean you have to be inclusive of historically lame shit. Skateboarding is cool, gender minorities skating is cool, male skaters being better educated on how to welcome and engage with said people is cool. && is decidedly not cool when held up against what has always been considered 'respected' in skate culture. Nothing wrong with a bit of gatekeeping and keeping the whack stuff at arm's length IMO. Stinking circus tricks and trick list notebooks aren't protected classes last time I checked.

Yeah, && is a white cis man, not someone from a marginalized minority. It's not like there's some discrimination against Canadians

[radcunt]

Hating Andy Anderson doesn’t make you racist.

[manysnakes]

I am vehemently anti-Canadian.

[Candied cigarettes]

The polar vid had some of the worst outfits. There’s a limit on baggy for fucks sake some of those fits were downright silly

[manysnakes]

The polar vid had some of the worst outfits. There’s a limit on baggy for fucks sake some of those fits were downright silly

Euros go crazy with that shit and everything Emile wears is super baggy because he's like 5'2" and 100 lbs.

[Dwyck]

Andy Anderson is one of the biggest pros in the world. We dont need to include him in anything

[Billy Bitchcakes]

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People who hate on && and talk about inclusivity in skating are hypocrites. It's basically like saying "all are welcome, and by all I mean the minorities and sub-groups that align with my tastes and interests".

I listened to like 10min of him talking about his new board and it was horrible. I don't like his style and can't watch his skating. It's fairly corny, but he seems genuine about it and just as much space should exist for him to do his thing as any other skater.

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Being inclusive of marginalised groups doesn't mean you have to be inclusive of historically lame shit. Skateboarding is cool, gender minorities skating is cool, male skaters being better educated on how to welcome and engage with said people is cool. && is decidedly not cool when held up against what has always been considered 'respected' in skate culture. Nothing wrong with a bit of gatekeeping and keeping the whack stuff at arm's length IMO. Stinking circus tricks and trick list notebooks aren't protected classes last time I checked.

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Uhh, this logic is so fucking full of holes. So it's OK for the marginalized groups that are brought in to add to "what's cool" and become the gatekeepers they were one repressed by? If anything the LGBTQ+ scene definitely has a lot of sponsored or pro skaters doing pretty "not cool" tricks that would definitely be circus tricks.

Gatekeepers aren't repressing LGBTQ+ skaters, bigots are

[Mean salto]

The sls final thingo that was just on was sick. As good as any comp type thing could possibly be. Better than any reg sport.

Spoiler: funa got fukn robbed!

[quackquack]

Front nose heelflips are gross and are no better than regular noseslide heelflips.

Is gross.

[dannyprovolone]

The sls final thingo that was just on was sick. As good as any comp type thing could possibly be. Better than any reg sport.

Spoiler: funa got fukn robbed!

this was weird. seemed rigged imo. both funa and momiji skated visibly better than ryassa and still lost. she was already celebrating the win before everyone tried their tricks.

[Mean salto]

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The sls final thingo that was just on was sick. As good as any comp type thing could possibly be. Better than any reg sport.

Spoiler: funa got fukn robbed!

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this was weird. seemed rigged imo. both funa and momiji skated visibly better than ryassa and still lost. she was already celebrating the win before everyone tried their tricks.

I know it's not one trick vs one trick but ryassa back Smith worth more than funa noseblunt. Yeah funa clipped her wheel on the way in and landed a bit wobbly (altho she is constantly praised for her super loose trucks so what do they expect) but I still think noseblunts worth way more. Ryassas other trick was back lip and funa did an absolutely perfect front crooked so once again should be way ahead.
Funa must of been thinking "fuck it's the Olympics all over again"

[TwisT]

Speaking of sls Gustavo’s nosegrind nollie flip and crooked grind nollie flip are the same trick.

I perfectly okay with him winning based on overall performance. I just also think that was some bullshit

Didn’t watch women’s yet

[winecrab]

I thought Braden won when he landed the kickflip bs noseblunt. At least he got 2nd. Would've been stoked if old man Decenzo won. Gustavo is crazy good and consistent but his trick selection sucks.

[Mean salto]

I think Gustavo got a touch underscored at times. It's like he's the superstar they don't want. Also kinda funny last shot ruined by some security guard.
Guess him winning tho shows it's not rigged......altho ryassa just happens to skate worse and win women's and Portugese speaker wins men's SHENANIGANS!!

[j....soy.....]

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The sls final thingo that was just on was sick. As good as any comp type thing could possibly be. Better than any reg sport.

Spoiler: funa got fukn robbed!

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this was weird. seemed rigged imo. both funa and momiji skated visibly better than ryassa and still lost. she was already celebrating the win before everyone tried their tricks.

It’s the Brazilian way…..

[bigbevev]

There’s nothing wrong with cargo pants, assuming they are appropriately sized.

Pockets are dope

[BurgerCop]

Funa definitely got robbed. Bad.
At some point judges gotta stop treating Gustavo's 360 flip to whatever tricks like NBDs.

Also...

Frontside noseslides are the most deceptively hard, slept on trick in skateboarding.
Sure, we can all fumble together a passable FS noseslide, but a really good one is something few people can do.

[SatanicPanic]

Funa Nakayama got robbed

[TwisT]

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The sls final thingo that was just on was sick. As good as any comp type thing could possibly be. Better than any reg sport.

Spoiler: funa got fukn robbed!

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this was weird. seemed rigged imo. both funa and momiji skated visibly better than ryassa and still lost. she was already celebrating the win before everyone tried their tricks.

Just watched it and No she wasn’t celebrating her win. She just gets hype when she lands tricks that are clutch. She’s always been like that

I also don’t think she was robbed. It was super close. Funa’s noseblunt wasn’t perfect.

So I guess my unpopular opinion is that women’s SLS was called fairly

[Mean salto]

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The sls final thingo that was just on was sick. As good as any comp type thing could possibly be. Better than any reg sport.

Spoiler: funa got fukn robbed!

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this was weird. seemed rigged imo. both funa and momiji skated visibly better than ryassa and still lost. she was already celebrating the win before everyone tried their tricks.

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Just watched it and No she wasn’t celebrating her win. She just gets hype when she lands tricks that are clutch. She’s always been like that

I also don’t think she was robbed. It was super close. Funa’s noseblunt wasn’t perfect.

So I guess my unpopular opinion is that women’s SLS was called fairly

It's not one trick vs one trick. But Im on your side with don't think ryassa was celebrating early