Trump VS. Biden (again)

[Dirty_Dan90]

The rematch nobody wants...

[Newphone]

Of the people saying trump, do you think he’d leave office after four years (following the two term limit), he won’t and you like that or don’t care?

[addie pray]

oh dave my guy dont do it

[TheLurper]

There is absolutely no contest, I'm voting for Biden because his advisors actually know how to read and aren't sucking down Xanax and speed all day long (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-white-house-drugs-speed-xanax-1234979503/).

Also, it is worth pointing out that all the absolute minimum guardrail of having horrible people like the CEO of Exxon limiting the damage Trump and team can do will be gone. It will be full on crazies and neo-nazis running the show for four years.

I feel Americans have forgotten just how bad things were under Trump and just how poorly Republican led states are doing. Red states have more crime, despite Fox/OAN trying to convince the world urban places are the worst (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/30/murder-rates-democrat-republican-states-gun-control). 9/10 states with the highest poverty rates are Republican led and have been for decades (https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/poverty-rate-by-state/). The top ten states with the shortest life expectancy, 9/10 are Republican led (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm).

Not to mention all the people around Trump that have gone to prison/jail. Like, he doesn't hang out with people are even remotely honest. And, it has been obvious for decades that he isn't even remotely honest and will do anything to avoid being held accountable.

Like, honestly, I have no idea what issues are driving people to say, "Yes, I'd like what Mississippi and Alabama are having as things seem to be going really well down there. I'd like my state to be like the poorest, most impoverished, and least educated places in America" or "Yes, Trump's rain multiple casinos into the ground, his son-in-law is now getting billions from the Saudis, his daughter got patents in China for exchange for tariffs on certain products being reduced, the tariffs helped Brazi's farmers dramatically increase their exports, he did backstage diplomacy with Rudi, and all sorts of other shady shit... this man is a leader."

[Atiba Applebum]

I like that this thread was started today as if it took Nikki Haley dropping out for this to be the reality that has been clear for years

[addie pray]

mississippi and alabama both have some of the highest black populations in the US

[IUTSM]

There is absolutely no contest, I'm voting for Biden because his advisors actually know how to read and aren't sucking down Xanax and speed all day long (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-white-house-drugs-speed-xanax-1234979503/).

Also, it is worth pointing out that all the absolute minimum guardrail of having horrible people like the CEO of Exxon limiting the damage Trump and team can do will be gone. It will be full on crazies and neo-nazis running the show for four years.

I feel Americans have forgotten just how bad things were under Trump and just how poorly Republican led states are doing. Red states have more crime, despite Fox/OAN trying to convince the world urban places are the worst (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/30/murder-rates-democrat-republican-states-gun-control). 9/10 states with the highest poverty rates are Republican led and have been for decades (https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/poverty-rate-by-state/). The top ten states with the shortest life expectancy, 9/10 are Republican led (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm).

Not to mention all the people around Trump that have gone to prison/jail. Like, he doesn't hang out with people are even remotely honest. And, it has been obvious for decades that he isn't even remotely honest and will do anything to avoid being held accountable.

Like, honestly, I have no idea what issues are driving people to say, "Yes, I'd like what Mississippi and Alabama are having as things seem to be going really well down there. I'd like my state to be like the poorest, most impoverished, and least educated places in America" or "Yes, Trump's rain multiple casinos into the ground, his son-in-law is now getting billions from the Saudis, his daughter got patents in China for exchange for tariffs on certain products being reduced, the tariffs helped Brazi's farmers dramatically increase their exports, he did backstage diplomacy with Rudi, and all sorts of other shady shit... this man is a leader."

no one who votes for the guy is saying, or even thinking about this. they watch FN, OAN, use FB or whatever other social media and see/hear/read/consume what's catered to them, no more, no less.

these same people probably aren't aware of statistics regarding a shorter life expectancy or higher poverty rates.
 
DT is a showman who, along with the media around him, evokes emotion, guiding people to feel both disenfranchised and empowered in the same sentence. It's a playbook as old as time.  Hatred and Fear can really temporarily bring people together.

[pugmaster]

Over the course of today and considering it is the anniversary, I thought it would be nice to have the bi-partisan January 6 hearings in their entirety here. I'm only slightly through a re-watch of the first video and it was surprising how much of the evidence I had already forgotten about. If they don't find him guilty for his actions (and inaction) related to January 6 and what he did in Georgia... it will be one of the biggest bunts in American history and we will be in DEEP shit.

Roughly 30 hours in total.

I tried to watch as many of them live but I did miss a couple days so I am re-watching them all. The last video is the Final Report, which is a recap with recommendations.

If you can watch even a fraction of the January 6 hearings and STILL support tRump... I really don't even know what to say. He lost, he knew he lost, he purposely spread misinformation and attempted to overthrow an election... amongst other things...

[h00man]

Biden no contest. I dont even like him.

Thereʻs no way we can let that criminal scumbag back into office.

[TheLurper]

mississippi and alabama both have some of the highest black populations in the US

So, what? Unless we are trying to make a racist implication that Black Americans are lesser (which I don't think is your point), Alabama and Mississippi with their low investment in education, their low tax schemes, and the other brilliant policy ideas should have helped this group "pull themselves up by the bootstraps."

Using Alabama's presidential voting record as a directional piece of data, Republicans have had control over Alabama for 40 years. 40 fucking years and it is still struggling with huge problems. It's GDP per capita is 3rd worst in America (only slightly better than West Virginia and Mississippi), so the GOP "economic realists" can't even point to an economic win. 

Even when conservatives want to bitch and moan about CA and NY to sell some dumbass story to show how "real America" is better, they rarely point to metrics that actually matter. NY's and CA's GDP per capita as both states are in the top 5. The north has the advantage of its industrial past, but if the GOP policies were even remotely decent, Alabama and Mississippi would be making progress not forever struggling with major issues with no improvements in sight.

[Mongo Lloyd]

I value the fact that this country belongs not to just the white man. No way in fuck would I ever vote Republican until that word means something entirely different.

Also, no thanks to corporate tax cuts for the middle class to continue to further shouldering the burden.

I realize money is the root of all evil, and what all of this truly boils down to, but those that stoke the flames of culture wars can get fucked. We need solidarity against the powers that be.

[addie pray]

do you think the poorest states having high populations of black americans is coincidental

[JM]

I like that this thread was started today as if it took Nikki Haley dropping out for this to be the reality that has been clear for years

I’m happy to have read this thread, if only for your comment.

[kim jong un]

He really spelled it tRump...   longtime lurker first time poster voting for trump AMA

[pugmaster]

He really spelled it tRump...   longtime lurker first time poster voting for trump AMA

Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

[JM]

He really spelled it tRump...   longtime lurker first time poster voting for trump AMA

Does AMA stand for "Ask me Anything" or "Against Medical Advice"?   The free dictionary isn't really helping me much on this one.....

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/AMA

[IUTSM]

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mississippi and alabama both have some of the highest black populations in the US

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So, what? Unless we are trying to make a racist implication that Black Americans are lesser (which I don't think is your point), Alabama and Mississippi with their low investment in education, their low tax schemes, and the other brilliant policy ideas should have helped this group "pull themselves up by the bootstraps."

Using Alabama's presidential voting record as a directional piece of data, Republicans have had control over Alabama for 40 years. 40 fucking years and it is still struggling with huge problems. It's GDP per capita is 3rd worst in America (only slightly better than West Virginia and Mississippi), so the GOP "economic realists" can't even point to an economic win. 

Even when conservatives want to bitch and moan about CA and NY to sell some dumbass story to show how "real America" is better, they rarely point to metrics that actually matter. NY's and CA's GDP per capita as both states are in the top 5. The north has the advantage of its industrial past, but if the GOP policies were even remotely decent, Alabama and Mississippi would be making progress not forever struggling with major issues with no improvements in sight.

so what?

[pugmaster]

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mississippi and alabama both have some of the highest black populations in the US

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So, what? Unless we are trying to make a racist implication that Black Americans are lesser (which I don't think is your point), Alabama and Mississippi with their low investment in education, their low tax schemes, and the other brilliant policy ideas should have helped this group "pull themselves up by the bootstraps."

Using Alabama's presidential voting record as a directional piece of data, Republicans have had control over Alabama for 40 years. 40 fucking years and it is still struggling with huge problems. It's GDP per capita is 3rd worst in America (only slightly better than West Virginia and Mississippi), so the GOP "economic realists" can't even point to an economic win. 

Even when conservatives want to bitch and moan about CA and NY to sell some dumbass story to show how "real America" is better, they rarely point to metrics that actually matter. NY's and CA's GDP per capita as both states are in the top 5. The north has the advantage of its industrial past, but if the GOP policies were even remotely decent, Alabama and Mississippi would be making progress not forever struggling with major issues with no improvements in sight.

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so what?

Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 24 hours.

[kim jong un]

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He really spelled it tRump...   longtime lurker first time poster voting for trump AMA

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

[tuesday]

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He really spelled it tRump...   longtime lurker first time poster voting for trump AMA

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

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I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

They demand you have to bow once you no longer fit their ideals. You just happen to fit in. Imagine what your situation were if you were a little different.

[kim jong un]

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

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I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

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They demand you have to bow once you no longer fit their ideals. You just happen to fit in. Imagine what your situation were if you were a little different.

If my situation was different maybe i would vote a different way, BUT ITS NOT, im voting for MY interests not other peoples dude, thats how this goes, i cant even imagine voting for other peoples interests

[Pasta Monster]

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

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I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

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They demand you have to bow once you no longer fit their ideals. You just happen to fit in. Imagine what your situation were if you were a little different.

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If my situation was different maybe i would vote a different way, BUT ITS NOT, im voting for MY interests not other peoples dude, thats how this goes, i cant even imagine voting for other peoples interests[/img]

That’s because you’re a selfish and miserable bastard with no empathy.

[TheDraught]

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

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I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

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They demand you have to bow once you no longer fit their ideals. You just happen to fit in. Imagine what your situation were if you were a little different.

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If my situation was different maybe i would vote a different way, BUT ITS NOT, im voting for MY interests not other peoples dude, thats how this goes, i cant even imagine voting for other peoples interests[/img]

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That’s because you’re a selfish and miserable bastard with no empathy.

Yeah he definitely sounds like the kind of guy i imagine who will vote for Trump. Who cares about other people, the homeless, the sick, the poor and the elderly? As long as Trump promises (but of course doesn't deliver) that they can fill up their RAM cheaper...

[frontsideNECKTIE]

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

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I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

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They demand you have to bow once you no longer fit their ideals. You just happen to fit in. Imagine what your situation were if you were a little different.

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If my situation was different maybe i would vote a different way, BUT ITS NOT, im voting for MY interests not other peoples dude, thats how this goes, i cant even imagine voting for other peoples interests

wait wait i've heard this one before

[Rusty Shackleford]

dictator for 'one day only'...yeah right.

[h00man]

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Why do you want to vote for him? I ask that genuinely by the way.

[close]

I wrote a paragraph but a mod fucked with it... so ill just boil it down to this, I hate leftist bullshit. Im not a right winger either im just a dude. right wing shit is wack but right wingers arent all over demanding i bow to thier ideals or else. People are sick of it.

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They demand you have to bow once you no longer fit their ideals. You just happen to fit in. Imagine what your situation were if you were a little different.

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If my situation was different maybe i would vote a different way, BUT ITS NOT, im voting for MY interests not other peoples dude, thats how this goes, i cant even imagine voting for other peoples interests

look at this self centered fuck.

if you actually think leftists are forcing their ideals onto you then wtf do you think Christians, republicans and the GOP in general are doing about women's rights and abortion?

fuck you.

[Newphone]

With trump getting 25% of the vote on such a left leaning website, how do you think the rest of the country is doing? Id say its not looking good for joe biden, im predicting a trump win this year.

It’s an anonymous poll on a fairly left leaning site.  There are certainly some pot stirring protest votes in this (and all) polls.  That being said, he seems to be leading many polls this far out and he hast that whole cult thing going for him so it’s worrying.

On the flip side, more republicans who voted in primaries said they would never vote for him than I expected which is significant.  Statistically those are more likely voters than the participants in this skateboard site poll.

[donkey]

probably just going to vote trump because i voted for biden in 2020. just like to stir shit up for no reason. nothing matters either way, this country is doomed

[Uncle Flea]

That Kanye piece. George Bush don't care about black people shit was god tier. Wtf happened?

[igrindtwinkies]

I'd much rather have someone a good 20-30 years younger than Biden, but I think the "He's got dementia and has no idea what he's doing!  He's just following orders through an earbud" claims are ridiculous.  Reminds me of the Obama birther shit, why actually argue about policy when you can just make compilations of 4 second cips of Biden's speech impediment.

Even if his brain was completely gone, he's got semi competent staff he's working with, rather than Betsy Devos and the Exxon CEO.