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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: chillout on June 12, 2010, 09:26:16 AM
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the rumors have been circulating for a while now but it is finally confirmed that zumiez as well as other chains will be selling sbs.
the first model is a vulc version of the prod4.
(http://n-sb.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/v-rod-spring-2011.jpg)
http://n-sb.org/index.php/2010/06/11/v-rod-paul-rodriguez/ (http://n-sb.org/index.php/2010/06/11/v-rod-paul-rodriguez/)
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It was only a matter of time. Though I am thinking they will keep certain shoes for shops only.
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
Haha.....pee rod merchandise? Like dildos?
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
Haha.....pee rod merchandise? Like dildos?
When I read dildos, I thought it looked like adildos=adidas
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
He is getting his own line of clothing as an off shoot of SB.
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
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It might just be the swoosh but those look like a Janoskis. Yeah I think it's the swoosh. The black ones don't even look that bad. But I'm not going into Zumiez just to give P-rod even more fucking money.
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From what I've heard its ONLY the P Rod line that they'll be selling, which will almost be a seperate division of Nike, like a Jordan type line with all different types of P Rod merchandise.
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is that a one piece toe cap? zumiez might have something worth stealing
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It's just the P ROD line of Shoes and Apparel line that'll be in Zumiez. No dunks, blazers, Janoski. etc...
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
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(http://n-sb.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/support-your-local-nike-sb-todd-jordan.jpg)
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the main line is still only at regular skateshops which, ironically, isnt the case for lakai manchesters.
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(http://n-sb.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/support-your-local-nike-sb-todd-jordan.jpg)
Erik from skate lair is one of my good friends and Nike does him good. So don't be bringing his shit into this to try and prove your point.
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im digging all the nike excuses going on here. good form
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haha, that's an i-ron
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Erik from skate lair is one of my good friends and Nike does him good. So don't be bringing his shit into this to try and prove your point.
You are overlooking it. I merely posted that ad because of the "Support your local," shit, which the P-Rod collection doesn't apply to. I could type a paragraph explaining how I feel about Nike, but that doesn't matter. I didn't mean to insult your buddy, Skate Lair, or Uprise.
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what happened to the industry, man?
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It started to go to shit EVEN before Nike showed up.
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
I completely agree with this sentiment, but it's gotten to the point that it's a question of what's a legitimate skate shop.
I live in los angeles where the three closest shops to me are active, ccs, and a surf/skate shop called zjs. Active and CCS are both located on the third street promenade, which is an outdoor mall where the majority of foot traffic is from tourists. That said, any person that happens to walk by either of these stores can access the "core" nike (or adidas) merchandise. I personally think that ccs and active are on the same level as zumiez, for better or worse. Because no longer is the criteria for the stockists to be outside of a major shopping center, I don't see there being any difference to allow zumiez to carry the shoes, unless the argument is that ccs and active are more of a skate shop than zumiez (which I do not think is the case).
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fuck zumiez man people who work there think that melon grab means lunch break
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the other point that I find fucked is that they had enough of a say to get ryan gallant kicked off of DC for talking shit on zumiez.
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It's just the P ROD line of Shoes and Apparel line that'll be in Zumiez. No dunks, blazers, Janoski. etc...
sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
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it's nike, they're pimping p-rod, his rep and his name for everything they can get. and yes, it is strictly the "Paul Rodriguez by NikeSB" line that will be sold in mall shops like Zumiez and West49.
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Now I wont feel bad when I switch out my insoles with the sb ones
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I'm not surprised, those shoes look like fucking 6.0's
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sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
no. theres jordan then theres this random dude named paul. the 2 should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
zumiez is lame but p-rod is even lamer because he has his own clothing line named after himself.
he must want to be a rapper or something.
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sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
no. theres jordan then theres this random dude named paul. the 2 should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
zumiez is lame but p-rod is even lamer because he has his own clothing line named after himself.
he must want to be a rapper or something.
lulz, seriously?
paul is humble as hell. nike probably just came to him and said "hey lets make a clothing line using your name", and since he has a family to support now he probably said "sure".
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sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
no. theres jordan then theres this random dude named paul. the 2 should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
zumiez is lame but p-rod is even lamer because he has his own clothing line named after himself.
he must want to be a rapper or something.
paul is humble as hell. nike probably just came to him and said "hey lets make a clothing line using your name", and since he has a family to support now he probably said "sure".
humble as hell?, i don't think so.
dude stays rocking his shirt, his hat, his board and his shoes, not to mention the bling.
could anyone be more vain? sorry homie but theres nothing humble about any of that.
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sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
no. theres jordan then theres this random dude named paul. the 2 should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
zumiez is lame but p-rod is even lamer because he has his own clothing line named after himself.
he must want to be a rapper or something.
paul is humble as hell. nike probably just came to him and said "hey lets make a clothing line using your name", and since he has a family to support now he probably said "sure".
humble as hell?, i don't think so.
dude stays rocking his shirt, his hat, his board and his shoes, not to mention the bling.
could anyone be more vain? sorry homie but theres nothing humble about any of that.
It's to support his" brand". He pretty much has too, His sponsors tell him too. I'm sure before he got all mainstream he was just wearing whatever he wanted. Now I think it's whatever he wears to please his sponsors. Dude's gotta get paid. Also how is buying jewelry vain?
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
Are you guys all seriously that regular?
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the largest multinational corporations in the world. They only care about profits. All that "we're down, we're underground and hardcore" bullshit they have been selling you has been nothing but a lie to get idiots to forget that Nike is about 10,000 times worse than zumies could ever dream to be.
You all bought the false image and continue to buy it. Some people have been pointing out that this is clearly the nike plan the whole time, and they got shit talked for it. Guess what? We were right.
How about an apology from all of those fucking douchebags who back nike and its slow and inevitable takeover of the skateshoe industry. Let's start with bubblegum tate...
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ok faster ::)
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the 497th largest multinational corporations in the world.
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the largest multinational corporations in the world. They only care about profits. All that "we're down, we're underground and hardcore" bullshit they have been selling you has been nothing but a lie to get idiots to forget that Nike is about 10,000 times worse than zumies could ever dream to be.
You all bought the false image and continue to buy it. Some people have been pointing out that this is clearly the nike plan the whole time, and they got shit talked for it. Guess what? We were right.
How about an apology from all of those fucking douchebags who back nike and its slow and inevitable takeover of the skateshoe industry. Let's start with bubblegum tate...
What happened? All i care about is that they keep making Janoski SB.
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nike is a shoe company, they make shoes in exchange for money. paul works for nike, he is doing his job. do you go into bookstores and call the bookkeepers kooks?
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the largest multinational corporations in the world. They only care about profits. All that "we're down, we're underground and hardcore" bullshit they have been selling you has been nothing but a lie to get idiots to forget that Nike is about 10,000 times worse than zumies could ever dream to be.
You all bought the false image and continue to buy it. Some people have been pointing out that this is clearly the nike plan the whole time, and they got shit talked for it. Guess what? We were right.
Nothing but the truth (I don't mean to be ironic)
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the largest multinational corporations in the world. They only care about profits. All that "we're down, we're underground and hardcore" bullshit they have been selling you has been nothing but a lie to get idiots to forget that Nike is about 10,000 times worse than zumies could ever dream to be.
You all bought the false image and continue to buy it. Some people have been pointing out that this is clearly the nike plan the whole time, and they got shit talked for it. Guess what? We were right.
How about an apology from all of those fucking douchebags who back nike and its slow and inevitable takeover of the skateshoe industry. Let's start with bubblegum tate...
Ha, I am still down for nike. They back my buddy's shop hard as fuck and that's more important to me then if Lakai and Vox go out of business. No other company has been as good to my buddy and his shop as nike. Until the day they stop, Nike will be amongst my shoe purchases from his shop.
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sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
zumiez is lame but p-rod is even lamer because he has his own clothing line named after himself.
he must want to be a rapper or something.
paul is humble as hell. nike probably just came to him and said "hey lets make a clothing line using your name", and since he has a family to support now he probably said "sure".
humble as hell?, i don't think so.
dude stays rocking his shirt, his hat, his board and his shoes, not to mention the bling.
could anyone be more vain? sorry homie but theres nothing humble about any of that.
It's to support his" brand". He pretty much has too, His sponsors tell him too. I'm sure before he got all mainstream he was just wearing whatever he wanted. Now I think it's whatever he wears to please his sponsors. Dude's gotta get paid. Also how is buying jewelry vain?
so hes a little puppet bitch then? got it, thats much better!
nah, i get what you're saying but he didn't have to use his name for his clothing line. even if nike came up with it, he could've gone a different route than using his own name. if rappers can come up with something original other than using their own names(minus that loser sean john), p-rod can do it too. to me, its as bad as starting a company to turn yourself pro, its like the ultimate form self props IMO.
as far as jewelry, theres only 2 reasons to wear it...
1. so you can show everyone how much money you have.
2. so you can stare at yourself in the mirror and see how pretty you are.
theres no other reason for it and both are considered vain.
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faster! is officially the biggest person on SLAP.
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(minus that loser sean john)
HAHA
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faster! is officially the biggest person on SLAP.
i know you're always looking for some kind of hidden meaning behind my posts but my opinion has nothing to do with him being a male or female, being gay or straight. why do you think people wear jewelry? make some sort of counter argument or kook me and move along. ::)
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From what I heard, Zumiez has been begging Nike for an account for a long time, and some places where P-Rod skated kids would always come up and talk to him and tell him how they wanted his shoes yet they were too pricey or they couldn't find them, and after awhile I guess it got to him. So he talked to Nike and they came up with this, selling the P-Rod 4s to Zumiez so they get off their back, and selling them cheaper so not so lucky kids can buy them. I don't see the problem with this, I think Paul is really sick for doing this.
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^ what dude said. I'm not saying Nike wasn't pumped for the opportunity to sell to Zumiez, but this whole line and where it would be sold was Paul's idea.
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Where is this info coming from? Skate shop rumors? P-Rod's your cousin? What?
And I'm still not convinced that those Janoskis are even good skate shoes.
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Paul told me when I met him at a bank.
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Paul told me when I met him at a bank.
for some reason befuddled me for a while but then it hit me.
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the largest multinational corporations in the world. They only care about profits. All that "we're down, we're underground and hardcore" bullshit they have been selling you has been nothing but a lie to get idiots to forget that Nike is about 10,000 times worse than zumies could ever dream to be.
You all bought the false image and continue to buy it. Some people have been pointing out that this is clearly the nike plan the whole time, and they got shit talked for it. Guess what? We were right.
How about an apology from all of those fucking douchebags who back nike and its slow and inevitable takeover of the skateshoe industry. Let's start with bubblegum tate...
Ha, I am still down for nike. They back my buddy's shop hard as fuck and that's more important to me then if Lakai and Vox go out of business. No other company has been as good to my buddy and his shop as nike. Until the day they stop, Nike will be amongst my shoe purchases from his shop.
i am curious how long your buddy's shop has been a sb dealer? i ask because if you were to sit down with a beer and talk to the og sb retailers, they would let you know they feel they were taken for a ride...for the most part. their backrooms are stacked with nike boxes, their bills are piling up and the demand is not what it was for the size of the orders they are being asked to take in. now couple that with adidas and cons trying to pull the same deal, and these retailers are seeing this for what it is. I hate to say look at specialty running shoe stores, but nike is using the same business methods of becoming "friends" with fingers crossed behind their backs.
this is a very calculated business for them. they knew it would take years to pull off. it has worked. cons will probably settle in right behind them.
and dont get me wrong, both of these brands are supporting some of my favorite people in skateboarding- pros, ams and retailers combined. but the end is near and the options of going into a skate shop and choosing between 10, 12, 14 brands will be shaken down to 6-8 max.
and adidas could be running game but their management there doesnt have the know-how and patience to pull it off long term. that thing is going to be blown out within 2 years with a line of burnt bridges...
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the largest multinational corporations in the world. They only care about profits. All that "we're down, we're underground and hardcore" bullshit they have been selling you has been nothing but a lie to get idiots to forget that Nike is about 10,000 times worse than zumies could ever dream to be.
You all bought the false image and continue to buy it. Some people have been pointing out that this is clearly the nike plan the whole time, and they got shit talked for it. Guess what? We were right.
How about an apology from all of those fucking douchebags who back nike and its slow and inevitable takeover of the skateshoe industry. Let's start with bubblegum tate...
Ha, I am still down for nike. They back my buddy's shop hard as fuck and that's more important to me then if Lakai and Vox go out of business. No other company has been as good to my buddy and his shop as nike. Until the day they stop, Nike will be amongst my shoe purchases from his shop.
i am curious how long your buddy's shop has been a sb dealer? i ask because if you were to sit down with a beer and talk to the og sb retailers, they would let you know they feel they were taken for a ride...for the most part. their backrooms are stacked with nike boxes, their bills are piling up and the demand is not what it was for the size of the orders they are being asked to take in. now couple that with adidas and cons trying to pull the same deal, and these retailers are seeing this for what it is. I hate to say look at specialty running shoe stores, but nike is using the same business methods of becoming "friends" with fingers crossed behind their backs.
this is a very calculated business for them. they knew it would take years to pull off. it has worked. cons will probably settle in right behind them.
and dont get me wrong, both of these brands are supporting some of my favorite people in skateboarding- pros, ams and retailers combined. but the end is near and the options of going into a skate shop and choosing between 10, 12, 14 brands will be shaken down to 6-8 max.
and adidas could be running game but their management there doesnt have the know-how and patience to pull it off long term. that thing is going to be blown out within 2 years with a line of burnt bridges...
He's been on the nike program since 02-03. He's not the type of dude to bull shit and has never had anything bad to say about nike. That being said, I have no emotional attachment to nike or think they are the end all be all. They are still a multinational corporation and have calculated their move into skateboarding very well, using shops like my buddy's. But, for him, they've given a lot back as well. And truth be told, they make some of the best skate shoes out there. If nike comes to an end I'll be bummed on the loss of a few good shoes, the mass amount of dudes they hook up being shoeless and my buddy's shop not reaping the benefits of their program.
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I don't think we need to be worrying about a huge corp selling some clothes at a mall store, it's bound to happen.
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I don't think we need to be worrying about a huge corp selling some clothes at a mall store, it's bound to happen.
Agreed, this shouldn't really surprise anybody.
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faster! is officially the biggest person on SLAP.
i know you're always looking for some kind of hidden meaning behind my posts but my opinion has nothing to do with him being a male or female, being gay or straight. why do you think people wear jewelry? make some sort of counter argument or kook me and move along. ::)
That statement had nothing to do with your clear and present homophobia. It had to do with the fact that you said something so unbelievably stupid that I thought my head was going to explode. I've know Paul for over 10 years, and in that time, I've heard him say/seen him do anything close cocky. The fact that he has his own brand named after him is because ITS HIS FUCKING BRAND! His shoe is called the P-Rod, so it'd wouldn't make sense to continue with that trend? By faster!'s logic, anyone with a pro-shoe with their name on it is vain. Is Christian Hosoi vain for Hosoi Skateboards? How about Tony Alva? Or Wes Humpston for running Bull Dog Skates?
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fuck zumiez so hard. i had a friend that worked there. hes pretty much a sell out. i would work fast food before i took a job there. anyways, i also work at a shop. what they would call "brick and mortor" or "mom and pop". when ever we would talk #'s, it would just piss me the fuck off. the amount of money they take out of the little dudes pocket everyday in every town they are in, is insane. SB was one of the things keeping the small shops going. ive pretty much hated nike from the beginning, but the only thing keeping me somewhat stoked was the fact that they werent in the mall. excluding that 6.0 bullshit. even if it is only p-rod, kids dont know the difference. just like cons and black flag, just like adidas skateboarding and adidas coastal just like circa and combat and so on and so on. NIKE can suck a dick. and also, those shoes dont even look like the 4's. even if the sole is vulc, thats still a different shoe. ive had fun watching everyone gobble up nikes scheme this whole time.
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faster! is officially the biggest person on SLAP.
i know you're always looking for some kind of hidden meaning behind my posts but my opinion has nothing to do with him being a male or female, being gay or straight. why do you think people wear jewelry? make some sort of counter argument or kook me and move along. ::)
i wish i could tell everyone on slap how i've known paul for 10 years...BTW, i think you dropped something. i mean you're sooooo cool, can we hang out? can you introduce me to paul and all your other pro friends? can i suck you off now? ::)
you always bring up my alleged homophobia, why is this? why are you so offended? did i hit a nerve?
the only reason why you constantly bring it up is because it bothers you, and it bothers you because you are in fact, gay.
its cool if you are, i have nothing against you or anybody else out there. just be yourself and live your life the way you see fit.
hosoi was vain and cocky as all hell. alva was vain and cocky as all hell. i don't know who wes humpston is?, but its seems he didn't name his company after himself(bulldog).
i never once said p-rod was cocky, just that he stays rocking HIS board, HIS shoes, HIS shirt, HIS hat and he shows off HIS bling.
i don't care if its his brand, that to me makes him vain. that is my opinion, just get over it and yourself.
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How about AvE? He has a signature clothing line on Vans (which is also available outside of skatestores, at least in Europe)
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Skate shops should be worried about the CCS stores popping up all over the US. CCS has accounts with every company that sells skateboards and skateboard apparel/shoes. Good luck to all the shops that are located where a CCS is opening.
No Comply - Austin TX
Escapist - Kansas City "just opened up 2 new stores" and now a CCS is opening soon
Faith - Birmingham
and all the other shops.
Many shops are closing their accounts with NikeSB because they have too many SBs in inventory. Nike sends them new shoes every month which cost about $2,000 a month.
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I bought my Emerica's at Zumiez
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Skate shops should be worried about the CCS stores popping up all over the US. CCS has accounts with every company that sells skateboards and skateboard apparel/shoes. Good luck to all the shops that are located where a CCS is opening.
Some of the shit they get is very limited. I scanned through a catalog a couple months ago and they only had one Anti-Hero tee, but no decks from them.
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Fuck this. NSB shouldn't support Zumiez; they should support skate shops.
THIS IS NIKE. They are one of the 497th largest multinational corporations in the world.
Hey genius, 497th largest in the U.S. would make them a fortune 500 company, meaning that they are a behemoth of a company.
And yeah, Nike knows how to play the game and convince distributors to carry them. Its a very smart game, but a game none the less. And the goal of that game is to suck as much profit out of skating as possible. If helping out a shop or two or sponsoring a contest will help them, that is fine. In the end they are outsider profiteers, but that isn't really the point.
My point is, what is wrong with a chain store carrying skateboard shoes made by a running shoe company? Which side is selling out? The chainstore or the running shoe company? As far as I know, both only have had money in mind from the beginning, making it impossible for either side to sell out. Really, nike SB belongs in pac sun and zumies more than any other brand of skate shoe they have in there.
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sickkk, so its official: paul rodrigez is the michael jordan of skateobarding.
no. theres jordan then theres this random dude named paul. the 2 should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
zumiez is lame but p-rod is even lamer because he has his own clothing line named after himself.
he must want to be a rapper or something.
paul is humble as hell. nike probably just came to him and said "hey lets make a clothing line using your name", and since he has a family to support now he probably said "sure".
humble as hell?, i don't think so.
dude stays rocking his shirt, his hat, his board and his shoes, not to mention the bling.
could anyone be more vain? sorry homie but theres nothing humble about any of that.
hahahaha
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Skate shops should be worried about the CCS stores popping up all over the US. CCS has accounts with every company that sells skateboards and skateboard apparel/shoes. Good luck to all the shops that are located where a CCS is opening.
No Comply - Austin TX
Escapist - Kansas City "just opened up 2 new stores" and now a CCS is opening soon
Faith - Birmingham
and all the other shops.
Many shops are closing their accounts with NikeSB because they have too many SBs in inventory. Nike sends them new shoes every month which cost about $2,000 a month.
yeah fuck that shit. ive been thinking about writing a letter to their h.q. to tell them to stay the fuck out of town but i dont think it would matter. its such bullshit. my city is so over populated with skate shops that everyone suffers. more hunters than there are prey and everyone is starving to death. business wise. its just so rude on their part. i see the need for a zumiez or css in the Central Mall in Texarkana Tx or some othe BFE town where maybe there wouldnt be any skate shop with in 100 miles. but to fucking hop in every major town where there is already a thriving scene and just take food right off the table? FUCK OFF!
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Skate shops should be worried about the CCS stores popping up all over the US. CCS has accounts with every company that sells skateboards and skateboard apparel/shoes. Good luck to all the shops that are located where a CCS is opening.
No Comply - Austin TX
Escapist - Kansas City "just opened up 2 new stores" and now a CCS is opening soon
Faith - Birmingham
and all the other shops.
Many shops are closing their accounts with NikeSB because they have too many SBs in inventory. Nike sends them new shoes every month which cost about $2,000 a month.
yeah fuck that shit. ive been thinking about writing a letter to their h.q. to tell them to stay the fuck out of town but i dont think it would matter. its such bullshit. my city is so over populated with skate shops that everyone suffers. more hunters than there are prey and everyone is starving to death. business wise. its just so rude on their part. i see the need for a zumiez or css in the Central Mall in Texarkana Tx or some othe BFE town where maybe there wouldnt be any skate shop with in 100 miles. but to fucking hop in every major town where there is already a thriving scene and just take food right off the table? FUCK OFF!
Yea do that.
I bet it works.
Catch you later dudes.
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I just opened a shop in Albany NY 3 months ago. There is a CCS "Flagship" Store opening in the mall next month, 3 miles away from where my shop is located downtown. I've known this for the last 6 months. Did it effect my decision? No. There is a Zumiez in the same mall and you can go 45 minutes in any direction of this city and there is a zumiez on the way or there, one just closed 20 minutes north of here but theres still one 30 minutes north of here. Yes foot locker has alot of money and are throwing a lot of eggs in 1 basket.
It's easy for someone young to walk in to a corporate owned store and be overwhelmed by all the product on the wall, but if you look at half the shit in there would you wear it, ride it or want it. All Corporate Controlled Skateboarding and Enemiez stores do is make a soccer moms errands of getting her kid the new deck he want's a little bit easier by putting themselves right next to macys so they can swing in there before or after getting there blush from the Chanel counter. They can hire the new "Brand Manager" and have him try and steer the older more knowing legit market in there with a corporate facelift but the only people who will shop there are the younger not knowing any better kids who want what they want when they want it.
Local shops are the ones putting on events and need to be the ones educating the younger ones on why you shouldn't shop there. You won't win em all, but the ones who listen and get it, will be the ones skating for years to come, unlike the others who wanted that new board cause they saw it on t.v. and it looked cool.
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How about AvE? He has a signature clothing line on Vans (which is also available outside of skatestores, at least in Europe)
But there isn't a big AVE logo in the middle of the T-Shirt, and he's not wearing a Moutain Dew/AVE cap just for everybody to see it...
Don't compare AVE to P-ROD please
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Not comparing, just pointing out similarities (and I have seen AvE logo caps and tees) AvE over P-Rod everyday though.