i wasn't hating on david gravette at all if you read my post. i don't care about this thread in the way of making predictions, i just used it as a place to say that i personally have never seen a part or clip of him. i do believe i saw an article where he and his friend both have tricks, but 10 minutes later i did not remember which was which, beings as how he was also someone i'd never heard of. i just always hear that dudes name in magazines and on here, but i just haven't seen anything. whatever, everyone is not for everyone. i stand by my post of that if i were in the same room with him, i would not know it. this has nothing to do with how gnarly he may or may not be.