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Title: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: thisisaperson on January 10, 2021, 01:06:40 PM
A bit ago, Ben Degros posted a clip shared by Robert Kennedy Jr. called "Planet Lockdown". Here is the link to the video: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJZgDnnl8B6/

He posted it with a caption saying something along the lines of "this is how I have been feeling lately"

Within half an hour, he deleted it from his highlights and deleted the post (probably due to immediate backlash).

The video in question has multiple conspiracy theories including the 2020 U.S. election being "rigged".

Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 10, 2021, 02:35:03 PM
I knew Chris Farley was alive.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: IUTSM on January 10, 2021, 02:41:52 PM
A buddy sent me this video saying "sit down and strap in for this one." For the first day it left me feeling shitty and rather confused. By the 3rd day after I watched it I very quickly began pointing out that it's a far right propaganda tool, invoking legitimate concerns about government over reach, corruption, and the decline of US empire, but leaving no room for actual solutions of change that truly serve the people and planet.

The lady, Catherine Austin Fitts, a trump supporter, interviewed at length has been involved in the Republican Party since at least the GHW Bush years, she/her company was a financial advisor to HUD. I find it odd and disingenuous that an incredibly wealthy, right leaning investment banker wants to wake the world up to the goings on of the tech elite. She argues that Bill Gates is trying to alter our DNA through vaccination.She says something to the effect of "I'm not saying people aren't getting sick, but it's being used to push trans humanism and slavery," going on to declare that this is the start of global slavery (as if it weren't the case with capitalism in the first place).

she has also said

published on 12 Feb 2017, 6:46
How does Donald Trump win against the evil trying to stop his Administration?Financial expert Catherine Austin Fitts contends, “Trump wins by staying focused on the real issues.The U.S. economy needs a variety of things, including turning the federal budget around. . . . . The reality is the federal budget has a negative return to taxpayers.It’s got to be turned positive. . . .That comes down to tax reform, infrastructure and it comes down to Obama Care. . . . Trump is the Titanic Turner, and he needs to stick to the big issues. . . . He has to make sure the shriek-o- meter does not destroy his top lieutenants and put space between him and them.Otherwise, the pigs are going to step in and run things.”

In closing, Fitts says, “What’s killing this economy is corruption and lawlessness.That’s what’s killing the economy.We need to deal with these problems.”

[url]https://newsvideo.su/video/6064585/url]

absolute garbage


Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 10, 2021, 03:05:02 PM
I know.
It's pretty bat shit. I'm not trying to be an apologist. I don't know Ben.

I don't think he's in with the scum. He probably just frightened like everyone else.

It's time for everyone to come together not move apart. This video may touch on few truths (historical stuff about slavery and england) but it's designed to further fear and division.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: IUTSM on January 10, 2021, 03:44:14 PM
I know.
It's pretty bat shit. I'm not trying to be an apologist. I don't know Ben.

I don't think he's in with the scum. He probably just frightened like everyone else.

It's time for everyone to come together not move apart. This video may touch on few truths (historical stuff about slavery and england) but it's designed to further fear and division.

Oh ya, man, I wan't responding to what you said and I don't know anything about Ben Degros. You're absolutely correct about the furthering of fear and division. It's crazy how the mind goes when folks are scared.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: cucktard on January 10, 2021, 09:45:51 PM
Excellent vid about the psychology and logical conclusions of right-wing conspiracies like flat earth and QAnon. If you have a couple hours (it is quite deep and well-researched) please check it out.

https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44

Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: matty_c on January 10, 2021, 09:58:00 PM
the downside of telling kids they’re all special is you get autistics flaunting their cooked shit on the internet
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 10, 2021, 10:24:55 PM
Seems like everyone in skateboarding is going down that rabbit hole or should I say toilet swirl. I wish the ones who see through the bullshit were more vocal about it.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 11, 2021, 01:10:08 AM
No idea who he is, so should we castrate or cancel him? You'll be the impartial judge?

PS: I fucking hate lefties and Nick Fuentes cock suckers, so spare that shit.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: TheFandangler on January 11, 2021, 01:29:09 AM
Seems like everyone in skateboarding is going down that rabbit hole or should I say toilet swirl. I wish the ones who see through the bullshit were more vocal about it.

No, I just think the ones that are going down that "toilet swirl" are more vocal about it. You don't hear about the ones who see through it because they're just like most of us and have a grasp on reality. That being said, I will agree that there is a good number of skateboarders that do end up as freedumb fighter kooks, but what can you expect from guys that haven't read a book since the 8th grade and have never had a real job.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: DarthDingusMaximus on January 11, 2021, 05:41:33 AM
Yeah I'm not buying this crap the right an especially it's fear paranoia is just what they want to indoctrinate us in to.

 Idk Ben neither just cause he's Canadian doesn't mean he's full of crap, I think anyone who has a mild fascination to find truth's regardless of it is acceptable to other's it is their own business.

   I happen to believe in my opinion whatever sorts you in life be you if that's being a rightwing snowflake or leftist cuck it doesn't matter. I have more respect for someone sticking to their guns about certain issues then some halfwit coward who plays two sides of the same coin.

Now I gotta eat a bagel......
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: radcunt on January 11, 2021, 05:50:29 AM
C'mon Ben
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Sila on January 11, 2021, 05:58:29 AM
He's probably feeling a bit vulnerable after stressing out about the wheelbase on his new board or figuring out what trucks to ride with it. Give him a break.


Also, pretty sure he wore a Benny The Butcher shirt in one of his videos. Ben is cool.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: S. on January 11, 2021, 06:14:22 AM
No idea who he is, so should we castrate or cancel him? You'll be the impartial judge?

PS: I fucking hate lefties and Nick Fuentes cock suckers, so spare that shit.

Are you that old racist homeless guy from that karate kid Netflix show?
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 11, 2021, 07:16:44 AM
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No idea who he is, so should we castrate or cancel him? You'll be the impartial judge?

PS: I fucking hate lefties and Nick Fuentes cock suckers, so spare that shit.
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Are you that old racist homeless guy from that karate kid Netflix show?

Shit, I wish I was that interesting...
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 11, 2021, 06:53:07 PM
C'mon Ben
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Post by: Freelancevagrant on January 11, 2021, 07:06:18 PM
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C'mon Ben
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Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: fredgallSOTY on January 12, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 12, 2021, 08:48:07 AM
Lol. Hilarious
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 12, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!

If you're above 30, neither alt right, nor all these champagne socialists will do.

If you want any chance of passing progressive policies in the real world, your larping dipship online retards will get nothing done.

But sure, it is so easy to take stands on Twitter..
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Croquet temper on January 12, 2021, 11:21:12 AM
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some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!
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If you're above 30, neither alt right, nor all these champagne socialists will do.

If you want any chance of passing progressive policies in the real world, your larping dipship online retards will get nothing done.

But sure, it is so easy to take stands on Twitter..

I agree very, very much. The truth is, left wing economic policies would appeal to people that voted for Trump twice if you removed a lot of the left wing rhetoric on race. Lots of flyover America has been stranded without employment, rewarded with opioid addictions, and told they aren’t worthy of compassion. That’s how you create the level of anger we’re seeing and it’s time to acknowledge it.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 12, 2021, 11:52:27 AM
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some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!
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If you're above 30, neither alt right, nor all these champagne socialists will do.

If you want any chance of passing progressive policies in the real world, your larping dipship online retards will get nothing done.

But sure, it is so easy to take stands on Twitter..
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I agree very, very much. The truth is, left wing economic policies would appeal to people that voted for Trump twice if you removed a lot of the left wing rhetoric on race. Lots of flyover America has been stranded without employment, rewarded with opioid addictions, and told they aren’t worthy of compassion. That’s how you create the level of anger we’re seeing and it’s time to acknowledge it.

You mean the same people who are always telling minorities and other marginalized groups that racism and discrimination don't exist in America and to stop complaining and get over it? The same people who got worked up into a dangerously stupid mob of racists because they ate up the lies fed to them by people like Trump and other right wing propagandists who intentionally weaponized their preexisting prejudices?

*wipes single tear from eye
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Glurmpz on January 12, 2021, 12:55:27 PM
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some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!
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If you're above 30, neither alt right, nor all these champagne socialists will do.

If you want any chance of passing progressive policies in the real world, your larping dipship online retards will get nothing done.

But sure, it is so easy to take stands on Twitter..
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I agree very, very much. The truth is, left wing economic policies would appeal to people that voted for Trump twice if you removed a lot of the left wing rhetoric on race. Lots of flyover America has been stranded without employment, rewarded with opioid addictions, and told they aren’t worthy of compassion. That’s how you create the level of anger we’re seeing and it’s time to acknowledge it.

Translation - the economic policies of the left are cool but they say we're not allowed to be blatantly racist, which is a deal breaker. Tons of racist bumfucks who have no valuable skills and hence no quality employment feel so sorry for themselves that they are drug addicted and expect a hug, a blanket and some free money from the government... but also socialism sucks you fuckin commies! The anger comes from being so incredibly stupid that you actually believe the very obvious lies told to you by republicans.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Alan on January 12, 2021, 01:29:40 PM
Yeah, it's an insane take.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: j....soy..... on January 12, 2021, 03:06:22 PM
Outrage leads to outrage.....well let me tell you.....the buck stops here! 

Ok...now carry on.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: DaleSr on January 12, 2021, 03:41:46 PM
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some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!
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If you're above 30, neither alt right, nor all these champagne socialists will do.

If you want any chance of passing progressive policies in the real world, your larping dipship online retards will get nothing done.

But sure, it is so easy to take stands on Twitter..
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I agree very, very much. The truth is, left wing economic policies would appeal to people that voted for Trump twice if you removed a lot of the left wing rhetoric on race. Lots of flyover America has been stranded without employment, rewarded with opioid addictions, and told they aren’t worthy of compassion. That’s how you create the level of anger we’re seeing and it’s time to acknowledge it.

Medicare for all, but only for white people! Pay no attention to the two hundred years of slavery, genocide and institutionalized racism that have stratified class for most African Americans, Indigenous people, or people who live on those islands that are part of the United States, but don't have statehood and are certainly not colonies that we extract wealth from, test our nuclear weapons on, use as shell corps to hide our wealth from taxation or ignore once a hurricane destroys most of their infrastructure!
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: CossRooper on January 12, 2021, 04:18:38 PM
Who cares. Most people slip into a conspiracy phase at some point in their life, i'm not canceling Mr. DeGros for posting a story.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 12, 2021, 05:11:26 PM
Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy here:

What is the most benign conspiracy theory/dillusion someone could have?  Like if you had to pick one for yourself or a family member, what would it be?

Of the top of my head, I’d say the one where you think that the whole world is on a really big turtle’s shell.  It’s kind of a fun one and seems pretty harmless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Croquet temper on January 12, 2021, 05:19:31 PM
You guys are so blinded by ideology spoonfed to you by memes on Instagram that you managed to completely miss the point and show how dumb you are, and I say this as someone who has many progressive views. Maybe you are all lil kids?
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 12, 2021, 05:39:04 PM
Maybe you are all lil kids?

You’re on a message board for grown adults that play with toys and rate outfits.  What did you expect to find?
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 12, 2021, 05:51:41 PM
You guys are so blinded by ideology spoonfed to you by memes on Instagram that you managed to completely miss the point and show how dumb you are, and I say this as someone who has many progressive views. Maybe you are all lil kids?

Don't worry, they're all white and it drives them mad. Probably pretty well off, too. Minorities they claim to love don't have the time to spend being "activists" on Twitter.

Pretty insane that I've always voted Soc Dem but online  that's never enough. These dipshits are the fucking worst.

Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: matty_c on January 13, 2021, 02:04:49 AM
Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy here:

What is the most benign conspiracy theory/dillusion someone could have?  Like if you had to pick one for yourself or a family member, what would it be?

Of the top of my head, I’d say the one where you think that the whole world is on a really big turtle’s shell.  It’s kind of a fun one and seems pretty harmless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle

This one deep reminds me of the Rick and Morty where they go inside the battery
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: NORTHBYMIDWEST on January 13, 2021, 02:15:18 AM
Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: cucktard on January 13, 2021, 04:52:21 AM
Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?

Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 13, 2021, 05:20:59 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.

Gavin?

Yeah, the guy is proto-hipster and total person.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: beatifk on January 13, 2021, 05:31:47 AM
I would expect this type of shit from Rad Rat but I'm a little disappointed by Ben.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: NORTHBYMIDWEST on January 13, 2021, 05:40:23 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.

That sucks. I used to have to travel to Canada for work halfway often and I was always surprised how chill and level headed everyone was.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: JANUS on January 13, 2021, 06:08:26 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
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That sucks. I used to have to travel to Canada for work halfway often and I was always surprised how chill and level headed everyone was.

It’s like anywhere; some people are cool, some people are jerks.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Alan on January 13, 2021, 06:15:37 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
[close]

Gavin?

Yeah, the guy is proto-hipster and total person.

He's also a Nazi, which is worse.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 13, 2021, 08:27:06 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
[close]

Gavin?

Yeah, the guy is proto-hipster and total person.
[close]

He's also a Nazi, which is worse.

Yeah, he was dumb enough to quote facts on JR where Jamie pulled the "study" and, what do you know, look at the source.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Freelancevagrant on January 13, 2021, 08:51:37 AM
Of course Canada has the alt right.

hard right jay for instance.

(https://i.ibb.co/bRTc5pJ/96897-E9-F-D6-BB-4-D85-AF76-32930-E06915-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRTc5pJ)
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: ChuckRamone on January 13, 2021, 09:16:42 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.

The irony is the ex-Vice guy's parents were recent immigrants to Canada and he's an immigrant in America. I guess that's okay though because they're the right skin color. In my experience, places like Canada, the Midwest, Japan, where people are super polite, are the same as anywhere else in terms of bigotry. They just suppress it more in day-to-day interactions. But we all know what happens when you suppress thoughts/emotions: They find their way out someway or another, whether that's through being passive aggressive or a racist online.
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Post by: Gnarfunkell on January 13, 2021, 11:28:52 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
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The irony is the ex-Vice guy's parents were recent immigrants to Canada and he's an immigrant in America. I guess that's okay though because they're the right skin color. In my experience, places like Canada, the Midwest, Japan, where people are super polite, are the same as anywhere else in terms of bigotry. They just suppress it more in day-to-day interactions. But we all know what happens when you suppress thoughts/emotions: They find their way out someway or another, whether that's through being passive aggressive or a racist online.

Yeah, literally every country is full of racists/bigots. Some countries hide it through "politeness", but nobody should be fooled into thinking the US is unique in its racism. It's very out in the open in the US, which is good and bad. It might make some racists even more racist, but at least we acknowledge it and (some of us) try to do something about it.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 13, 2021, 06:22:17 PM
Aryan fest used to be in Canada in the early 90s.

There's fucking assholes everywhere.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: cucktard on January 13, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Based on a true story

https://youtu.be/W_u3Cabv25I
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on January 13, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy here:

What is the most benign conspiracy theory/dillusion someone could have?  Like if you had to pick one for yourself or a family member, what would it be?

Of the top of my head, I’d say the one where you think that the whole world is on a really big turtle’s shell.  It’s kind of a fun one and seems pretty harmless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle
my aunt years ago told me that shoes disconnected you from being physically one with the earth and that when they were invented hundreds or thousands of years ago was the real beginning of the downfall of the human race that’s why she wears crocs so she can feel the occasional blade of grass peeking through but she is a good lady and came out at like 50 so she’s been on a trip
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 13, 2021, 07:57:11 PM
Sometimes I feel so out of step.

I can't handle anymore frickin violence but I know it's always in the mail.

I'm a product on violence. I almost don't feel like a human anymore I'm so out of touch with this endless shit.

I want to save lives.

All these people talk. When the speak they confess their thought sins. They say so and so wants to make you a slave. She is trying to control you rn.

Those are her thoughts. Her father taught her all that frickin shit.

Think for yourself

Know why I'll always back ben. He told little of his expression strength and hopes to the young kids who wanna copy us.

Be a positive force for change.

I'm started smoking weed again. I'm dyslexic af.

If I wasn't I'd be an author.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: mushroom slice on January 13, 2021, 08:36:27 PM
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Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy here:

What is the most benign conspiracy theory/dillusion someone could have?  Like if you had to pick one for yourself or a family member, what would it be?

Of the top of my head, I’d say the one where you think that the whole world is on a really big turtle’s shell.  It’s kind of a fun one and seems pretty harmless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle
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my aunt years ago told me that shoes disconnected you from being physically one with the earth and that when they were invented hundreds or thousands of years ago was the real beginning of the downfall of the human race that’s why she wears crocs so she can feel the occasional blade of grass peeking through but she is a good lady and came out at like 50 so she’s been on a trip
Rick Rubin thinks the same thing as your aunt. There is some truth in it if you ask me. It’s nice to connect with the earth.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: roger baglady on January 13, 2021, 08:58:11 PM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
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Gavin?

Yeah, the guy is proto-hipster and total person.
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He's also a Nazi, which is worse.
you guys are pretty fast and loose w/ the other 'n word'. not a gavin fan but he's got mixed race children. either you're wrong in your assumption or nazis are a lot more open than history gives them credit for.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: iKobrakai on January 13, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
Terms mean nothing anymore

My home town was pretty beat up by actual Nazis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad

..to the point of reported cannibalism... Then again, the communists killed about as many.

Hence, I fucking hate your hero, be that Vaush, Richard Spencer, Hasan, Fuentes, Contrapoint or any other larping person.

PS: I you use centrist as an insult, you're beyond any help.
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Post by: EdLawndale on January 13, 2021, 11:22:50 PM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
Canada?
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
[close]

Gavin?

Yeah, the guy is proto-hipster and total person.
[close]

He's also a Nazi, which is worse.
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you guys are pretty fast and loose w/ the other 'n word'. not a gavin fan but he's got mixed race children. either you're wrong in your assumption or nazis are a lot more open than history gives them credit for.

Many slave owners had mixed race children.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: dallou on January 13, 2021, 11:51:52 PM
yes sur the proud boy posterboy is certainly not a nazi, why would anyone think that
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Alan on January 14, 2021, 06:32:49 AM
you guys are pretty fast and loose w/ the other 'n word'. not a gavin fan but he's got mixed race children. either you're wrong in your assumption or nazis are a lot more open than history gives them credit for.

Although the Nazis wanted to "purify" their "national community" by removing/exterminating all non-Aryans from their gene pool, doing that in practice was less straightforward. So they developed a very convoluted way of deciding who is Aryan and who isn't, as you can see from this chart: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Nuremberg_laws_Racial_Chart.jpg

Also, Jewish spouses of non-Jewish Germans were considered "Aryan Jews" and were not deported to camps, although they were stripped of all rights.

And if you actually read about McInnes's worldview and your reaction is "well, actually, he's not exactly a Nazi" or some variation thereof, then you're either powerfully stupid or full of shit, or both.

Finally, fuck you for equating "Nazi" with the n-word (which are so similar that you could only spell out one of them).

Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: DaleSr on January 14, 2021, 07:28:56 AM
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Isn't Ben Canadian? Is the alt-right even a thing in
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Yes. Unfortunately yes.

The ex-Vice doucharoo who stated the Proud Boys is Canadian, and we have our very own Briebart, Rebel News.

Canadians can be just as disgustingly racist as anyone else, if you’ve ever read the comments section on news regarding Native issues.
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Gavin?

Yeah, the guy is proto-hipster and total person.
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He's also a Nazi, which is worse.
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you guys are pretty fast and loose w/ the other 'n word'. not a gavin fan but he's got mixed race children. either you're wrong in your assumption or nazis are a lot more open than history gives them credit for.

Nazis are hypocritical as shit.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: IUTSM on January 14, 2021, 10:11:25 AM
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you guys are pretty fast and loose w/ the other 'n word'. not a gavin fan but he's got mixed race children. either you're wrong in your assumption or nazis are a lot more open than history gives them credit for.
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Although the Nazis wanted to "purify" their "national community" by removing/exterminating all non-Aryans from their gene pool, doing that in practice was less straightforward. So they developed a very convoluted way of deciding who is Aryan and who isn't, as you can see from this chart: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Nuremberg_laws_Racial_Chart.jpg

Also, Jewish spouses of non-Jewish Germans were considered "Aryan Jews" and were not deported to camps, although they were stripped of all rights.

And if you actually read about McInnes's worldview and your reaction is "well, actually, he's not exactly a Nazi" or some variation thereof, then you're either powerfully stupid or full of shit, or both.

Finally, fuck you for equating "Nazi" with the n-word (which are so similar that you could only spell out one of them).
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: bartje pipi on March 18, 2022, 03:16:14 PM
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some Radical Centrists in this thread!!!
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If you're above 30, neither alt right, nor all these champagne socialists will do.

If you want any chance of passing progressive policies in the real world, your larping dipship online retards will get nothing done.

But sure, it is so easy to take stands on Twitter..
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I agree very, very much. The truth is, left wing economic policies would appeal to people that voted for Trump twice if you removed a lot of the left wing rhetoric on race. Lots of flyover America has been stranded without employment, rewarded with opioid addictions, and told they aren’t worthy of compassion. That’s how you create the level of anger we’re seeing and it’s time to acknowledge it.
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Translation - the economic policies of the left are cool but they say we're not allowed to be blatantly racist, which is a deal breaker. Tons of racist bumfucks who have no valuable skills and hence no quality employment feel so sorry for themselves that they are drug addicted and expect a hug, a blanket and some free money from the government... but also socialism sucks you fuckin commies! The anger comes from being so incredibly stupid that you actually believe the very obvious lies told to you by republicans.

spot on
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: TheLurper on March 19, 2022, 12:11:16 AM
Who is Ben DeGros? Am I missing something by not having any clue who this man is?


As for conspiracies, the least annoying is a belief in Bigfoot. Dumb, but not next level dumb or the start of a very slippery slope of completely illogical paranoid thinking that will bring about a belief in Trump/JFK 2024.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Urtripping on March 19, 2022, 01:16:35 AM
I like the theory that they replaced Avril Lavign with a clone when she died
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: nekro on March 19, 2022, 02:20:33 AM
He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 19, 2022, 06:03:22 AM
He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.


Ahh yes. Such a critical thinker that he felt compelled to share a video filled with so many misleading and outright untrue "alternate facts" that it got banned from fucking Facebook. But clearly it's just brainwashed liberals pushing their agenda, if only they were as open minded as you then surely they'd see how wrong they are!
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Mean salto on March 19, 2022, 06:10:15 AM
Yous ever hear about the Blue mountains panther or are you a bunch of sheep who let the msm spoon feed you all your info?
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Prinzy on March 19, 2022, 06:47:57 AM
Who is Ben DeGros? Am I missing something by not having any clue who this man is?


As for conspiracies, the least annoying is a belief in Bigfoot. Dumb, but not next level dumb or the start of a very slippery slope of completely illogical paranoid thinking that will bring about a belief in Trump/JFK 2024.

Idk man, I had an old coworker who was very passionately insistent on bigfoots existence. Used to tell us Bigfoot isn’t an actual “entity” but rather an experience. When people see Bigfoot, they aren’t ACTUALLY seeing Bigfoot, rather having a spiritual experience prompted by Bigfoot’s “aura” in which they are essentially tripping and seeing Bigfoot

Dude was fried, would hit a DMT pen on his breaks, and left the job while subsequently separating from his partner and kid to go pursue a sustainable income via crypto

I think the Bigfoot community is a little kookier than we think
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: SneakySecrets on March 19, 2022, 07:04:47 AM
to go pursue a sustainable income via crypto

Yeah more like cryptozoology.  Lol  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: cky enthusiast on March 19, 2022, 08:49:09 AM
conspiracy theories rock
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: ok boomer on March 19, 2022, 09:44:38 AM
I get all of my truck conspiracy info from Ben
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: brycickle on March 19, 2022, 01:58:21 PM
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Who is Ben DeGros? Am I missing something by not having any clue who this man is?


As for conspiracies, the least annoying is a belief in Bigfoot. Dumb, but not next level dumb or the start of a very slippery slope of completely illogical paranoid thinking that will bring about a belief in Trump/JFK 2024.
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Idk man, I had an old coworker who was very passionately insistent on bigfoots existence. Used to tell us Bigfoot isn’t an actual “entity” but rather an experience. When people see Bigfoot, they aren’t ACTUALLY seeing Bigfoot, rather having a spiritual experience prompted by Bigfoot’s “aura” in which they are essentially tripping and seeing Bigfoot

Dude was fried, would hit a DMT pen on his breaks, and left the job while subsequently separating from his partner and kid to go pursue a sustainable income via crypto

I think the Bigfoot community is a little kookier than we think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAj2Gqtx0LA
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: manysnakes on March 19, 2022, 02:50:41 PM
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He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.
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Ahh yes. Such a critical thinker that he felt compelled to share a video filled with so many misleading and outright untrue "alternate facts" that it got banned from fucking Facebook. But clearly it's just brainwashed liberals pushing their agenda, if only they were as open minded as you then surely they'd see how wrong they are!

Facebook banned the Hunter Biden laptop story, such that it weren’t even permitted to share the link in private chats. All of that story turned out to be completely true, as confirmed this week by the New York Times.

Facebook isn’t exactly a neutral arbiter. I’ll need more than that before I abandon uncle Ben.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: in flux on March 19, 2022, 04:26:27 PM
Never got to see the post as it's down now. But Vancouver's skateboard scene is full of ageing weirdo's who love conspiracies i.e. Moses & Sluggo.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: cky enthusiast on March 19, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
frankly i’ll be upset if sluggo isn’t an insane conservative
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: grimcity on March 19, 2022, 08:51:21 PM
I've worked in state government administration under four different governors and separately in state and local politics for so long that that part of my resume can legally buy cigarettes, and nothing tickles me quite like right wing pseudo-libertarians who come in hard about hating the left and the right and then continue right on into the typical copy and paste right wing nonsense you can find on any "maga" hashtag. It ain't new, and it ain't clever, but it's still funny every time. I love you guys, but please... Facebook isn't research, and data isn't pinkolibcuckpogtankie propaganda. Please just be more curious. Go with primary sources.

For the past few years, I've been working in the infectious disease field (specifically with STDs, Hep, HIV/AIDS, and now, working on data and new self-care information dissemination to the public, state legislature, and every health unit in the state to people that have autoimmune diseases (based on anything).

For one year, the first thing I did at the literal crack of dawn to process daily state and country-wide death tolls as well as hospitalizations due to infection (broken down to walk ins-n-outs. critical care, and deaths under medical observation). When the outbreak first happened, we were in the middle of Mardi Gras, so it took absolutely no time until we started seeing our hospitals flood over with Covid patients. We designed our body count app for the public in an unheard of amount of time (it pulls data from the CDC and the Louisiana Office and Dept. of Health (OPH and LDH respectively). Super spreader event number one.

When the initial outbreak came, we were tasked to work remotely (fine for me, as it doesn't matter where I am to do my work), but a lot of my fellow friends/staff members volunteered to assist all of the medical facilities (a huge portion of the people I work with were medical doctors before being admins). We lost a number of them as well (this was obviously pre-vaccine).

Anyway, I know there's a fringe part of the left that has an antivax stance, and while they're kooks to be sure, the base of the current parties on the right are literally running for office as antivax candidates.

The fact is, Republicans have a strong record of being against science and data. There are still strong pushes to allow creationism to be taught in science classes, pushes to create flat taxes that are just insane in their logic, wanting to ban a collegiate level theory that isn't taught in primary education, and just.. a plethora of other things that are so patently absurd that it's hard to wrap my head around the amount of people that believe this garbage.

I don't blame Ben. If anything, he's a good example of a potentially smart guy that was convinced by a very convincing guy. Kennedy and his ilk are the real ones to blame.. and I'd also add that he himself is definitely on the left side of the spectrum politically, and has actually done some really great work in litigating for people (he used to do big cases & talk about them with another attorney named Mike Papantonio on an old show called Ring of Fire). Kennedy's biggest problem (aside from relating vaccines to autism) relates to an aluminum derivative that hasn't been used in vaccines in forever, and I don't even know if that aluminum even caused problems.

As for the "it's my body and my choice and fuck you I'll catch it cause I have an immune system and I'll be fine" people, on this onet, please fuck the fuck off. This is a virus that's very easily shared, and not everybody has the fabooo immune system you think you may have. Masks are an act of consideration to others (the masks are meant to prevent particulates from leaving your mouth and into the air as opposed to blocking incoming traffic, though they help with that too).

Hell, to anyone that just wants to yank their dicks out at Covid and not give a shit, I invite you to have unprotected sex with an HIV+ partner with no protection, and make sure that partner has not taken any viral load suppression medication (to ensure that you get it).

Funny thing, we can give you a much higher guarantee of a long and healthy life if you acquire HIV. Not only that, we can give you post exposure medications that can bring your viral load down so low, you'll not only be undetectable, you'll also be 100% unable to pass the virus to a partner.

Not so with Corona (post exposure). We still don't know how long it takes for "long covid" patients to manifest their first symptoms, and as many people are asymptomatic carriers, it's hard to gauge as to whether or not they experience any issues in the far future.

The hippie dippy bullshit about "finding my own truth" is great in discussions revolving around personal philosophy, but that shit is irrelevant as it pertains to communicable diseases.

Only a tiny minority of Americans (29.1 people out of 100) even have their boosters. There's a proactive attempt by the right wing to do things that are driving all of us on the medical end insane. Had people just not acted like fuckwits and taken the advice of people that live in the medical sphere, this would have been a manageable situation and our death toll could have been incredibly lower. If it were only affecting the gung-ho willfully ignorant crowd, I'd be sad, but that would be your choice. I take issue with the fact that an irresponsible choice could lead to the death of a person that has a weaker immune system. It's a pointlessly selfish way to act, and the end effect can be fatal to someone minding their own fucking business.

This is going to keep mutating and killing people as long as mask and vaccine mandates are called back too soon (or never implemented) or militantly scoffed at by the fiercely stupid.

Favorite non-harmful conspiracy is Wendigo and skinwalker stuff. It's nonsense, but some of the audio stories I've heard make for some entertaining and spooky things to listen to while going to sleep.
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: IUTSM on March 19, 2022, 09:29:49 PM
^/thread
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: cucktard on March 19, 2022, 09:38:08 PM
What do you expect? The dude is an Indy fanboy.


(I will now explain that this was completely tongue-in-cheek and I don’t equate NHS with white supremacy, nor do I think Ben is far-right. It is a SLAP-specific inside joke.

Resume your normal posting)
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Sativa Lung on March 20, 2022, 02:36:59 AM
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He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.
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Ahh yes. Such a critical thinker that he felt compelled to share a video filled with so many misleading and outright untrue "alternate facts" that it got banned from fucking Facebook. But clearly it's just brainwashed liberals pushing their agenda, if only they were as open minded as you then surely they'd see how wrong they are!
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Facebook banned the Hunter Biden laptop story, such that it weren’t even permitted to share the link in private chats. All of that story turned out to be completely true, as confirmed this week by the New York Times.

Facebook isn’t exactly a neutral arbiter. I’ll need more than that before I abandon uncle Ben.

They banned it for being factually incorrect and full of wild horseshit like microchips and it all being a 5g conspiracy, it had nothing to do with politics. How about you actually watch the video before talking about it?

Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: manysnakes on March 20, 2022, 09:06:04 AM
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He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.
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Ahh yes. Such a critical thinker that he felt compelled to share a video filled with so many misleading and outright untrue "alternate facts" that it got banned from fucking Facebook. But clearly it's just brainwashed liberals pushing their agenda, if only they were as open minded as you then surely they'd see how wrong they are!
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Facebook banned the Hunter Biden laptop story, such that it weren’t even permitted to share the link in private chats. All of that story turned out to be completely true, as confirmed this week by the New York Times.

Facebook isn’t exactly a neutral arbiter. I’ll need more than that before I abandon uncle Ben.
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They banned it for being factually incorrect and full of wild horseshit like microchips and it all being a 5g conspiracy, it had nothing to do with politics. How about you actually watch the video before talking about it?

I'm not 90 years old so I'm not on Facebook
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: Urtripping on March 20, 2022, 05:32:18 PM
This dude I know posted this on his IG story:

"They gave you all $1400 and now that food, gas, and everything else is more expensive, they tell you it's because of Russia... Keep letting them spoonfeed you the bullshit!"

Not exactly a conspiracy, but fried nonetheless
Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: S. on March 21, 2022, 01:59:27 AM
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He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.
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Ahh yes. Such a critical thinker that he felt compelled to share a video filled with so many misleading and outright untrue "alternate facts" that it got banned from fucking Facebook. But clearly it's just brainwashed liberals pushing their agenda, if only they were as open minded as you then surely they'd see how wrong they are!
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Facebook banned the Hunter Biden laptop story, such that it weren’t even permitted to share the link in private chats. All of that story turned out to be completely true, as confirmed this week by the New York Times.

Facebook isn’t exactly a neutral arbiter. I’ll need more than that before I abandon uncle Ben.

Honestly, I think just banishing anyone who gets into these theories does not seem to be the right way to me.

One of my skate friends became an anti vaxxer and started talking conspiracy theories. He left our group chat (set up to talk skating and organize sessions) after people accused him of being a nazi (a really dumb accusation since he‘s black and not racist at all). Last I heard he‘s been getting even more paranoid and mostly hangs out with other conspiracy guys now.

There must be a way to tell them you do not agree and cannot accept these theories without turning them into complete outcasts. Some of them for shure will be able to come back from that thinking. My friend smokes a lot of weed and has been pretty isolated as a computer programmer since Covid happened. I think that has been a factor. I hope after the Covid madness is finally over and he‘s hopefully cut done his weed use a bit it will be possible to hang out again without hearing his tirades against the mainstream media and vaccinations being murder.
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Post by: Sativa Lung on March 21, 2022, 03:24:09 AM
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He comes across as a highly intelligent critical thinker. Hes applying his thought patterns to current world events. No shame in that.
Right wing? Conspiracy theories? C'mon that's just a slur coming from someone who believes everything the MSM promotes.
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Ahh yes. Such a critical thinker that he felt compelled to share a video filled with so many misleading and outright untrue "alternate facts" that it got banned from fucking Facebook. But clearly it's just brainwashed liberals pushing their agenda, if only they were as open minded as you then surely they'd see how wrong they are!
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Facebook banned the Hunter Biden laptop story, such that it weren’t even permitted to share the link in private chats. All of that story turned out to be completely true, as confirmed this week by the New York Times.

Facebook isn’t exactly a neutral arbiter. I’ll need more than that before I abandon uncle Ben.
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Honestly, I think just banishing anyone who gets into these theories does not seem to be the right way to me.

One of my skate friends became an anti vaxxer and started talking conspiracy theories. He left our group chat (set up to talk skating and organize sessions) after people accused him of being a nazi (a really dumb accusation since he‘s black and not racist at all). Last I heard he‘s been getting even more paranoid and mostly hangs out with other conspiracy guys now.

There must be a way to tell them you do not agree and cannot accept these theories without turning them into complete outcasts. Some of them for shure will be able to come back from that thinking. My friend smokes a lot of weed and has been pretty isolated as a computer programmer since Covid happened. I think that has been a factor. I hope after the Covid madness is finally over and he‘s hopefully cut done his weed use a bit it will be possible to hang out again without hearing his tirades against the mainstream media and vaccinations being murder.

I don't have the time or energy to explain to everyone that slept through science and behavioral health class why this shit is wrong and they're being manipulated. And even if I did they typically won't listen anyways.

The entire problem with conspiracy theories and that way of thinking is that it's emotionally driven, so logic and fact don't matter. You can show these people as much solid, superbly sourced and reviewed factual data as you want, but it's typically futile because ultimately what they're chasing is a feeling and not the truth. If you want your friend back the best way to do it without losing him is probably to try to figure out a way that he thinks he figured it out himself - because that's ultimately what he's seeking. Honestly though it might be better to cut and run and hope he comes around and hits you up some day because it really is a slippery slope once they get in that echo chamber.

I think big picture the best solution is more behavioral health education for middle/high schoolers. Let them learn how easily fooled and manipulated the brain is and how it's commonly done. Learn about con men and how they work, on both a personal and macro level. Basically, learn critical thinking and how to filter bullshit.




Title: Re: Ben Degros is into the alt-right and conspiracy theories
Post by: ok boomer on March 21, 2022, 02:59:41 PM
Ben still posting truck review videos or ?
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Post by: exlurker on March 22, 2022, 07:40:57 AM
You've been lied to your whole life, and you love it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebts1FMCgb4