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Ok, just to fuck with that "it's impossible to do a fakie feeble" thing, what about on tranny? Or would that be called a frontside halfcab feeble?
And its a goddamn fakie back tail because you turn into it. If you started fakie going at a ledge frontside and popped and turned into in a regular 5-0, it would be a backside 5-0. Would you say that a backside 5-0 was frontside because the dude approached it frontside? Its not called a half cab frontside 5-0 in that one, its a half cab backside 5-0. In this one you do a fakie ollie into a regular BACKSIDE tailslide. You can't really do a fakie tailslide, you can only fakie ollie into a tailslide.
coming up fakie and starting to turn f/s half cab but stopping short and getting into a normal feeble? i'd call that a f/s half cab feeble, yeah.
the half cab to 5-0 thing is tricky in it's language because you can get into a b/s 5-0 from both a regular half cab (going over the top of the ledge with a little over rotation, like you'd do for a cab back tail) or a f/s half cab (staying on the outside of the ledge with a little under rotation, like an over-rotated fakie back tial)- so you have to be clear which half cab you're talking about.
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Ok, just to fuck with that "it's impossible to do a fakie feeble" thing, what about on tranny? Or would that be called a frontside halfcab feeble?
And its a goddamn fakie back tail because you turn into it. If you started fakie going at a ledge frontside and popped and turned into in a regular 5-0, it would be a backside 5-0. Would you say that a backside 5-0 was frontside because the dude approached it frontside? Its not called a half cab frontside 5-0 in that one, its a half cab backside 5-0. In this one you do a fakie ollie into a regular BACKSIDE tailslide. You can't really do a fakie tailslide, you can only fakie ollie into a tailslide.
coming up fakie and starting to turn f/s half cab but stopping short and getting into a normal feeble? i'd call that a f/s half cab feeble, yeah.
the half cab to 5-0 thing is tricky in it's language because you can get into a b/s 5-0 from both a regular half cab (going over the top of the ledge with a little over rotation, like you'd do for a cab back tail) or a f/s half cab (staying on the outside of the ledge with a little under rotation, like an over-rotated fakie back tial)- so you have to be clear which half cab you're talking about.
Oh for sure, I don't know if I can think of anybody that I have seen do a f/s half cab to b/s 5-0, but I'm sure it can be done. regular half cab to f/s 5-0's are cool as fuck though. I was just saying that a 5-0 can be done fakie or regular, and it is two different tricks, not so with a tailslide.
Here is one for you: What is the proper way to say somebody did something to fakie when they are skating switch. It's always fucking annoying to explain to people. "He backtailed that hubba!" "To fakie or regular?" "It was to fakie, I mean regular, like if it was regular it would be to fakie..." Going back to switch is easy to say- switch backtail back to switch, but the other one throws me.
like briden said, pj has done it, and i'm sure other have too. i've accidentally grinded a couple trying fakie back tails, but could never intentionally get into one. blast. but true true on the 5-0/tailslide variances in definition.
as for the switch to regular/switch to switch thing, i'd just still go with "to fakie" if the total motion completed is 180, as opposed to back to original direction.
as for the fakie b/s feeble vs f/s half cab feeble, i've never heard it called that going either direction, only the half cab terminology, so i guess i'm gonna make a judgement call here and say yeah, it's wrong. but it's becoming clear i have a personal bias against anything that involves "fakie" and "feeble."
Whitely-you described a baglady as a nosegrind/lipslide combo. So a fakie ollie to switch feeble would be a fakie bag lady because your tail goes over (as in a fakie back lip) and you're grinding on the nose's truck.
hmm, i'd actually go with a fakie novecaine then-- baglady you're closer to a f/s nosegrind, whereas with a novacaine you 180 to switch feeble (i think-- we didn't get 100% certain on that trick definition yet). so fakie into the novacaine makes more positional sense. so yes i guess it does have a reasonable name technically, but damn, i don't think anybody does a lot of these tricks we're talking about at this point!
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what would you call a fakie ollie to switch feeble? theres gotta be something catchier than that
just call it a fakie sieben grind...
I thought a Sieben grind was a front 180 switch front feeble.
I've always thought "pop shove-it boardslides" would make more sense than "bigspin boardslides," since you're only rotating it an extra 90 degrees. My reasoning is that a pop shove-it over a hip going backside isn't called a bigspin, even though you're popping it an extra 90 degrees. Anybody feel free to let me know if/why I'm stupid.
Also Whiteley, when did ollie one-foots become ollie norths? Was that Tony Hawk's Pro Skater's doing?
And I agree wholeheartedly that there should be a "meatspin." When I was 13, I used to try this stationary trick that was a f/s shove and my body would rotate 360 frontside. If nobody minds, I'm going to work on those while moving this weekend and call it a meatspin.
i seem to have missed the entirety of the sieben grind. any points of reference?
this also brings up the barley grind (f/s 180 switch smith) and the bennett grind (b/s 180 switch b/s smith). barley grind came about 10 years earlier, wonder why it didn't just end up a b/s barley grind when bennett did it...
on the bigspin thing, generally you round up- anything over 180 is bigspin. when you do a b/s pop shove over a hip going backside, do you really go more than 180 between the pop and the land? i don't see anybody doing that really... a pop shove-it to boardslide would be really hard and awkward, to get the end you're popping off up and over the rail as it spins towards it. with the bigspin kind, it spins away from it and can spin at an angle, ie not leveling out, so it's easier to get over the rail or whatever and into boardslide.
"ollie north" i remember hearing around the same time as "one foot" but it just didn't catch on as much, i think because it seemed hokey. anybody under 30 know who ollie north the person is? he wasn't cool enough to get a cool trick named after him, i think that's why it wasn't used as much to be honest...
as far as your meat spin, that would be a "f/s spin-off." i mentioned the b/s version earlier in the thread. i think for meat spin we were going with anything greater than a bigger spin. but it's just a joke anyhow, make your own meat spin!