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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: bobforapples on February 07, 2014, 05:40:40 AM
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Why did life and other biological organisms come to form on this planet? Nothing matters at all, why do people try so hard at life, is it because our genes make us? Are there really people out there who don't want to kill themselves everday at least once or twice when they realize how stupid life is?
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Alan Watts ~ The Spiritual Journey As The Self (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Y0bGUk4Dg#)
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We are mould on a rock. So fuck it, let's party.
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is it all the drugs that the government is using to make me sad or is it that I know too much and that makes me sad, would I be better off as a religious person who refuses to accept anything but a books word.
people can't change the world, are we powerless against the collective whole, why bother with living
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is it all the drugs that the government is using to make me sad or is it that I know too much and that makes me sad, would I be better off as a religious person who refuses to accept anything but a books word.
people can't change the world, are we powerless against the collective whole, why bother with living
the government is making you use drugs?
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i wanna live with the animals, son.
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trippy thinking how were on a gigantic rock floating in the middle of nowhere,
and why is there so much water,
and where does all the poop gO?
too much to think about I'm gonna go lay down
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Is it though?
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the greatest french thinkers realized existence is absurd so just make it whatever ya want and find comfort in that. i spend my life skateboarding poorly, somebody else is a plumber. neither one is quantify-ably better, everything is just what you perceive it as.
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you're fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlabwaJ3Xqg
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why bother with living
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
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Thomas Ligotti - Nobody Is Anybody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fetSoZFyBw#)
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do you have something you want to tell us?
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
But this too...
the greatest french thinkers realized existence is absurd so just make it whatever ya want and find comfort in that. i spend my life skateboarding poorly, somebody else is a plumber. neither one is quantify-ably better, everything is just what you perceive it as.
So...
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ancient minneapolis skater once said 'life truly begins after u cut off ur dick and eat it'
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There's so many ways to think about that and knowledge is power but ignorance is bliss.
Rene Descartes decided that the proof of his own existence was in the observation that he thought - had a mind that could think. So he decided that because he could think, he must exist.
I think. Therefore I am.
On a side note, this very guy once walked into a bar and ordered a drink. Bartender brought him a drink. After a while the barkeep noticed his glass was near empty. Another drink, Mr. Descartes?
I think not, said Rene.
And disappeared.
But really, people say that shit like, "you matter to the people who know you". There's so many jobs where people sit in cubicles next to all these other people for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and yet know nothing about each other. If you're saying that to someone who's constantly moved around or actually doesn't have a close circle of friends with a shitty job then what are they really holding on to? In comparison to that you can see examples of celebrities or just insanely accomplished people who have overdosed purposefully but seemingly had it all. Some guys always got it better and some guys always got it worse you just have to find what makes you happy or a way to vent your sadness.
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^Agreed.
Also, what would you like me to point at then?
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ancient minneapolis skater once said 'life truly begins after u cut off ur dick and eat it'
words to live by
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ancient minneapolis skater once said 'life truly begins after u cut off ur dick and eat it'
good luck there bro
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don't let oblivion get you down.
spend some time with really young kids and you might remember how exciting life once was for you too and stop over thinking it.
also, smoke less weed...
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also, smoke less weed...
why are lungs so pointless???
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Accept the inevitable and understand that it's suppose to be a bumpy ride.
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I think; Therefore I am.
that's all well and good but what is "I"?
listen to alan watts.
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Re: why is life so pointless
Short Answer "Yes" with an "If"...
Long Answer "No" with a "But"...
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Big Lebowski - Nihilists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_29yvYpf4w#)
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i get like this sometimes when i'm not distracted by friends, the internet, or some task i gotta do.
also when i look in the mirror for more than ten seconds my whole world melts away and i'm just naked on a rock flying through space like the acid hammered into my brain. but the constant exploration of consciousness and the discoveries of either greater truths or subtle nuances i've never noticed before help to keep me interested in life.
social interactions can help expand your views and can change your mood for days at a time. you can talk with anyone and have an uplifting conversation if you get past the introductions and eventually try to get at the meat and meaning of the human experience.
just talking these things out with friends or people on the internet can help to smooth the road in your mind when it gets bumpy. spend too much time in your head and everything is fucked.
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When you become a parent stuff makes more sense. Then opens up a whole new gang of questions. :/
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Typical existential crisis. I pretty much feel the same way as you, and it kind of is depressing. Yeah sure, life is pointless but only initially. I don't think any of use were put on earth for a cause or reason but that doesn't mean we don't have one. People create meaning as we go, whether it be having a kid or whatever. Life is worth living because of the fun times it brings. The shitty times only make the worthwhile ones sweeter
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
That's really fucking true dude
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
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Re: why is life so pointless
Short Answer "Yes" with an "If"...
Long Answer "No" with a "But"...
(https://covers.openlibrary.org/w/id/7156903-L.jpg)
We clearly have a man that needs some help here and you want him to read the unabridged version of Das Capital? You asshole.
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
OT: Someone who used to post here years ago said that if you're not getting along with your spouse, you should have a kid and then you'll rebuild the bond because you will have to work together and yadda yadda yadda, he's now divorced with three kids.
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
Not to mention doing the rest of us a favor too.
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As someone said above, a change in your routine will maybe make life less motonotonous. This could be changing your diet, trying out new music, or even doing the skateboard tricks you always thought were lame (i was pretty sure no complies/footplants were lame my whole life, but no comply 360 double hardflips are pretty hard to hate on).
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
you've got it all wrong. kids don't give your life meaning, nothing can do that. kids help you realize that meaning in life isn't important. there's no 5 year old walking around contemplating silly things like the meaning of life because they are too busy enjoying life to care.
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
it's a shame your parents didn't feel the same way
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You're right. I'm a terrible piece of shit. My parents should late term abort me now.
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Sleazy, your worldview sounds like fucking Big Bird meets Spinoza, and I think it's flawed.
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big bird suggests that life isn't meaningful?
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From the Big Bird Wiki:
"His personality developed over time from being a dim, slow-witted character into the childlike innocence he is known for today. Although all the Sesame Street Muppet characters are technically ageless, Big Bird is psychologically written to represent a six-year-old."
What I take from that post, and your misreading of my original posts is that you're essentially trying to hold up the "positive, affirmative life"(Spinoza) As a desirable standard, while also condemning the act of thinking (Big Bird/ most children) It's a mess of a philosophy and falls apart before it even farts out of your brain.
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pretty funny how your trying to be academic about your pop culture references and fart jokes. so are you go to enlighten us on the meaning of life now? hopefully it'll be better than your trolling.
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You told me that I "have it all wrong" when upon reading some posts suggesting that having kids will bring meaning, I said that it wouldn't. We were on a similar page. Then you said that life had no meaning. Then you said the purpose (meaning?) of life was to "enjoy it" like a 5 year old, who doesn't (or often can't) weigh themselves down with pesky questions. So there we have it. Life has no meaning, but the meaning of life is to enjoy it and its lack of meaning. But that's not a meaning?
I will give you credit though, your ideas are consistent with a lack of thinking.
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SHOTS FIRED
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My only point was that life is meaningless, so you are mistaken
you still haven't put up why you feel life is meaningful or any thoughts of your own
you must really spend a lot of time around insecure idiots if you think your insults hold any weight
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halfpipe joust to decide if life has meaning or not. it's the only way!
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Because.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W23LKD9Z1hw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W23LKD9Z1hw)
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
thats about 70% of the population then. ? bummer.
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Some days I think kinda like you. I feel like we are nothing but animals with a highly developed brain, and that there really is no point in doing anything.
Especially if I haven't slept much the night before. Kinda weird, huh?
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Is enjoying life really that hard? Do people really need to feel like they are making some permanent impact to enjoy life? Doesn't everyone realize that our sun will burn out and that eventual extinction of our whole ecosystem is inevitable? I guess not wasting time on this kind of thing is another benefit of faith.
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Janoski had an interview in TWS where it said "an ordinary life would be the worst"
i hated him for saying that.
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Thats how i feel with grown ups that dont skate. What a waste of lives.
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When life gives you lemons, be grateful, because life doesn't owe you a fucking thing. Who the fuck promised anybody life was supposed to have a point? We are highly evolved animals who haven't escaped the eat-fuck-die cycle that all animals have, but somehow wonder why we exist. You exist because mom and dad got horny, and they are a product of the same type of scenario.
You have to give life your own meaning, because everybody gives their own meaning to everything they encounter anyway. I mean even if the meaning you assign yourself is copied from somebody, you interpret it your own way, and chose to follow that person's understanding of meaning. In a fucked up way, the only choice you don't have in terms of finding meaning in your life is to get it from somebody else, because only you can make something meaningful to yourself.
So yeah, don't ask us, our answers will all suck to you.
Oh, and Sleazy is right if that helps him continue maintaining the eat-fuck-die cycle, and Chris Hansen is right if that doesn't help him continue maintaining the eat-fuck-die cycle and he needs more "depth" than that.
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Some dim sum sounds good right now.
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i'm getting me a sausage roll for lunch, haven't had one in a while, bloody beautiful
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
you've got it all wrong. kids don't give your life meaning, nothing can do that. kids help you realize that meaning in life isn't important. there's no 5 year old walking around contemplating silly things like the meaning of life because they are too busy enjoying life to care.
I think you misread or misinterpreted what Chris Hansen is saying. You're answering him as if he himself thinks that having children will give your life meaning when in reality he was talking about other people who think that, because there are tons of people who somehow find some kind of newly invented "purpose" in their lives after they've been lost for awhile and ended up having a kid. Seen it happen too many times.
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We are highly evolved animals who haven't escaped the eat-fuck-die cycle that all animals have, but somehow wonder why we exist. You exist because mom and dad got horny, and they are a product of the same type of scenario.
people reducing the world to this makes me sad. If we're talking base behavior i guess what you're saying has credence but come on now I'm pretty sure we can all agree there is more going on here than "eat-fuck-die"
I constantly feel like one part of myself is the innate "eat-fuck-die" part and another is what I use to create thoughts/music/skate trix. On the macro-level nothing is black and white I guess, but I suppose I would agree that biologically/in our subconscious we are all on the "eat-fuc-die" program.
the paragraph in gippers post after the one I quoted is definitely some wisdom.
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Some dim sum sounds good right now.
when life gives you dim sum, life is good, life was truly worth living.
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
you've got it all wrong. kids don't give your life meaning, nothing can do that. kids help you realize that meaning in life isn't important. there's no 5 year old walking around contemplating silly things like the meaning of life because they are too busy enjoying life to care.
I think you misread or misinterpreted what Chris Hansen is saying. You're answering him as if he himself thinks that having children will give your life meaning when in reality he was talking about other people who think that, because there are tons of people who somehow find some kind of newly invented "purpose" in their lives after they've been lost for awhile and ended up having a kid. Seen it happen too many times.
i didn't misread it and my response would also apply to your answer too. i was pointing out that maybe people just stop caring about these things after having kids. i know i did. and honestly, if there are people out there who feel that dedicating their lives to raising kids gives them meaning and purpose when before they didn't have any, who cares. if you've ever been to a funeral and heard the kids talk about their deceased parent, it's pretty clear that about the only thing you do that has a lasting, powerful impact in life is having kids. but that still doesn't mean it's meaningful.
but i'd love to know what guys like you and hansen who feel that people who do feel kids give their lives meaning are pathetic feel is the path to a meaningful life? is it having obscure taste in music, being well read on philosophy, doing art and having cool hobbies? i just don't get how what you do or how you think is meaningful to anyone but you.
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
Ughhhhh helping people is so much work tho and interrupts me tryna chill.
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
yeah trueee
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
I get that completely. I'm hoping that at some point in my life I'll actually WANT to help others out...for now I kind of grudgingly do it and then I'm like, yay.
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If you need to have children to create meaning in your life, please do yourself and them a favour and don't have children.
you've got it all wrong. kids don't give your life meaning, nothing can do that. kids help you realize that meaning in life isn't important. there's no 5 year old walking around contemplating silly things like the meaning of life because they are too busy enjoying life to care.
I think you misread or misinterpreted what Chris Hansen is saying. You're answering him as if he himself thinks that having children will give your life meaning when in reality he was talking about other people who think that, because there are tons of people who somehow find some kind of newly invented "purpose" in their lives after they've been lost for awhile and ended up having a kid. Seen it happen too many times.
i didn't misread it and my response would also apply to your answer too. i was pointing out that maybe people just stop caring about these things after having kids. i know i did. and honestly, if there are people out there who feel that dedicating their lives to raising kids gives them meaning and purpose when before they didn't have any, who cares. if you've ever been to a funeral and heard the kids talk about their deceased parent, it's pretty clear that about the only thing you do that has a lasting, powerful impact in life is having kids. but that still doesn't mean it's meaningful.
but i'd love to know what guys like you and hansen who feel that people who do feel kids give their lives meaning are pathetic feel is the path to a meaningful life? is it having obscure taste in music, being well read on philosophy, doing art and having cool hobbies? i just don't get how what you do or how you think is meaningful to anyone but you.
I believe the notion of a "meaningful life" is an oxymoron since technically there is no meaning or purpose to life but to exist and reproduce, speaking from a biological standpoint.
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so then we agree. from there you could make some arguments in the freudian direction around the point of life but i choose not too. but that still wouldn't address having a meaningful life.
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2 Chainz Says "True" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zbBzO2RdqM#)
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We are highly evolved animals who haven't escaped the eat-fuck-die cycle that all animals have, but somehow wonder why we exist. You exist because mom and dad got horny, and they are a product of the same type of scenario.
people reducing the world to this makes me sad. If we're talking base behavior i guess what you're saying has credence but come on now I'm pretty sure we can all agree there is more going on here than "eat-fuck-die"
I constantly feel like one part of myself is the innate "eat-fuck-die" part and another is what I use to create thoughts/music/skate trix. On the macro-level nothing is black and white I guess, but I suppose I would agree that biologically/in our subconscious we are all on the "eat-fuc-die" program.
the paragraph in gippers post after the one I quoted is definitely some wisdom.
eat-fuck-die explains why we are here, and honestly, its not even the purpose to life. You don't have to eat or fuck, but we got here because of that. Everything else is up to you. If you get meaning through music/skating/whatever that's because you decided that shit is meaningful. It isn't universally meaningful. Nothing really is. Again, its up to you.
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I think we are in concurrence.
I feel like OP was trolling but some cool things were discussed in this thread.
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op was definitely trolling but thread has turned thread
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I would hate if I were unable to grasp the absurdly amazing reality and privilege that is consciousness
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life is beautiful
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The answer is exceedingly simple. Purpose in life is whatever you decide it is. If you don't like existence, kill yourself. To be honest, I don't like being alive, but I'm glad for the experience. It's amazing to be a piece of the universe experiencing itself. I've had enough of it now though. Once I get over my natural instinct for self-preservation and fear of death, I'm outta here. I just gotta get my hands on some supplies to make my exit bag. The government won't let me have a gun.
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I would hate if I were unable to grasp the absurdly amazing reality and privilege that is consciousness
Sucks to be yall than. I don't feel bad for not having one. You don't like what I'm doing? Fuck you.
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I would hate if I were unable to grasp the absurdly amazing reality and privilege that is consciousness
You ARE conscious...you HAVE a conscience. Different feels bro.
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I would hate if I were unable to grasp the absurdly amazing reality and privilege that is consciousness
You ARE conscious...you HAVE a conscience. Different feels bro.
not concious of a lotta shit though. u don't have a conciousness cuz you got knocked the fuck out!
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you are the worst
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you are the worst
cry about it den.
do you understand?
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i need help squeezing in these jordache jeans
I am in awe of your genius...now I'll go grab the crisco.
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Why did life and other biological organisms come to form on this planet? Nothing matters at all, why do people try so hard at life, is it because our genes make us? Are there really people out there who don't want to kill themselves everday at least once or twice when they realize how stupid life is?
kill yourself lol
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cry about it den.
do you understand?
you're proving my case. your the worst kind of shit poster, not entertaining on any level.
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Why did life and other biological organisms come to form on this planet? Nothing matters at all, why do people try so hard at life, is it because our genes make us? Are there really people out there who don't want to kill themselves everday at least once or twice when they realize how stupid life is?
Hahahahhaahahha! hilarious another comedic master piece by Hetro, please round of applause everybody
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
I get that completely. I'm hoping that at some point in my life I'll actually WANT to help others out...for now I kind of grudgingly do it and then I'm like, yay.
the thing with helping others is that it will not improve your personal quality of life. If you want a good life, you have to be a complete asshole towards others (within the system of capitalism; an other concept is the idea of 'karma').
Nonetheless, a wise man lives for something instead of dying for somethiing...
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If you want a good life, you have to be a complete asshole towards others (within the system of capitalism;
i got money 2 throw around, what u need it 4?
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If you want a good life, you have to be a complete asshole towards others (within the system of capitalism;
b e e r
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Apparently I'm a little late to get aorund to reading this. That money is gone. Feel free to ask me for money in a few weeks if u still need a few drinks.
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whys life pointless eh? this is what i heard.... In life one should not stare at the river\(for too long), for if one does he will see dead bodies. so what does that mean? just keep it moving and you'll be good, rose colored glasses!! ( but hey if you wanna just wallow for a while i do not blame you lol)
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
I get that completely. I'm hoping that at some point in my life I'll actually WANT to help others out...for now I kind of grudgingly do it and then I'm like, yay.
the thing with helping others is that it will not improve your personal quality of life. If you want a good life, you have to be a complete asshole towards others (within the system of capitalism; an other concept is the idea of 'karma').
Nonetheless, a wise man lives for something instead of dying for somethiing...
Welcome to the thread, Berra.
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whys life pointless eh? this is what i heard.... In life one should not stare at the river\(for too long), for if one does he will see dead bodies. so what does that mean? just keep it moving and you'll be good, rose colored glasses!! ( but hey if you wanna just wallow for a while i do not blame you lol)
Wallowing, eh?
Richie Jackson probably owns a few pairs of rose colored glasses, what they are good for I don't think I'll ever know.
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life is gay
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life is gay
THING OUT LOUITHE!
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
I get that completely. I'm hoping that at some point in my life I'll actually WANT to help others out...for now I kind of grudgingly do it and then I'm like, yay.
the thing with helping others is that it will not improve your personal quality of life. If you want a good life, you have to be a complete asshole towards others (within the system of capitalism; an other concept is the idea of 'karma').
Nonetheless, a wise man lives for something instead of dying for somethiing...
Welcome to the thread, Berra.
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Try helping somebody else out...you'll realize life isn't as pointless as you thought.
I get that completely. I'm hoping that at some point in my life I'll actually WANT to help others out...for now I kind of grudgingly do it and then I'm like, yay.
the thing with helping others is that it will not improve your personal quality of life. If you want a good life, you have to be a complete asshole towards others (within the system of capitalism; an other concept is the idea of 'karma').
Nonetheless, a wise man lives for something instead of dying for somethiing...
Welcome to the thread, Berra.
I FUCKING HATE RAILS!