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I want to thank whoever it was (can’t remember) that posted in this thread about putting stage 11 hangers on stage 8 plates. it inspired me to do the same, except the complete opposite.
idk if it’s nostalgia or something else, but I swear stage 8’s turned way better when I was skating them 20 years ago lmao. these just wouldn’t turn. so I took off the stage 8 hangers, ditched the bushings they came with, and put the stage 8 hangers on some brand new unskated stage 11 cast hollow plates and put some brand new stock indy bushings in there.
amazing turn. glad I have constant truck madness, otherwise I wouldn’t have been none the wiser. lmk if you’re the poster so I can gnar you. ❤️☺️
How is the kingpin clearance? I can run this same combo but am too lazy to dig through my madness bag to try this combo lol, as I never thought of it. If I put a stage 8 hanger on a stage 8 baseplate...clearance does not exist. I'm tired of messing with inverted kingpins...
the kingpin clearance on the stage 8 hangers with the stage 11 baseplates is so much better, it isnt even comparable to when they were in the stage 8 plates. it def doesn’t give you the same clearance that say an IKP plate would, nor does it even give you the clearance a stage 11 plate with a standard kingpin would.
if I had to make the comparison, I would say it gives the same clearance an Indy stage 10 did. if not, even a bit more than a stage 10 (my fav Indy stage to date.) I know a lot of peoples’ opinions on the 10’s was somewhat polarizing, but I loved them.
anyway, to my original point I was trying to make before my ADD took over lmfao, is that their are three main contributing factors as to why stage 8’s had little to no kingpin clearance. the main reason they had god awful clearance was because of the bushings.
I was always a under the assumption that even back then, up until now, Indy stock bushings were all
The same height. they most definitely aren’t. although stage 8 bottom bushings are the same height as any other stage after it, the top bushings is insanely tall. like, the top bushing is damn near the same size as the bottom.
so one thing I tried before actually putting the stage 11 plates on the stage 8 hangers, is I tried putting the brand new, stock stage 11 Indy bushings on the stage 8 plates to see if they made the turn better. i saw Ben degros do that when he did his review on the stage 8’s a year or so ago, and he made it seem like it improved.
the problem is, (and this is the other factor I found out whilst trying the swap) is that stage 8 kingpins, (as well as alot of other truck companies in the late 90’s-early 2000’s) had a kingpin that never eventually went to a tapered, non-threaded part, as they got towards the top. so when I took the stage 8 bushings off the hangers, I saw that in fact, the whole kingpin was one giant thread, and it was considerably longer than a modern day kingpin. I’m assuming to accommodate the huge ass top bushing.
so I put the stage 11 bushings in the 8 plates. tightened them to nuts flush with the bolt, and they were Matt Rodriguez loose. Lmao. tightened them 2 threads up in the back, same thing. so that’s when I had the idea for the baseplate swap.
while writing this, I realized I listed three, but I’m dumb, and just realized that a turning radius would have nothing to do with clearance. (??) but, I will say, even though these 11 baseplates have made them much more enjoyable to skate and a much better turn, they definitely still have a similar turning radius of the 8, but it is definitely an improvement . I would say they turn a lot like a stage 10 as well. lol
oh, and also, I know a lot of people are either all about the IKP, or they hate it. I’ve read a lot of people on here complain about how they don’t hold their desired tightness. I however, have never had anything but good experiences with them so far. I have a pair of stage 11 Indy lows on my tech setup, and I love them, such an under rated truck. but one of the kingpins on the Indy low baseplates got completely stripped, and Indy low baseplates don’t work very well with standard Indy baseplates, because of the different kingpin length.
so I put 126 Indy low hangers on the IKP plates, and put in some ace low standard hardness bushings a friend gifted me, and they are amazing. but I also weigh 110 pounds, so that could have something to do with them holding their desired tightness for me. Lmao
sorry for the rain man style manifesto on a skateboard truck. Lmao. but I have little to no actual human interaction with people most days. so a novel comes out when I speak whether that be through the internet, as well as the unfortunate soul who has to bear it face to face. 🤣😝
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I just realized I could’ve saved 10 minutes and just posted photos. 🤦🏼♂️🤣