^yes! they have that good crisp shape and edge. by the time they have been washed like three times they turn into regular pants, but in the brand new phase, there is nothing else like them. once i was shooting photos of jason jessee- he said, "hey, wait just like five minutes," walked off, got into his car and drove away. i had no idea what he was doing. sure enough, five minutes later he came back with a brand new pair of dickies and changed into them for the photo. "they just didn't look right," was all he said. awesome.