oh man i meant to quote the guy who bought the dyet wheels, but since this has gone a different direction, he is $600 a month but since i chose to upgrade to the tongue ring model, but didnt get the haircut upgrade, he comes to about $400 a month, plus contest entry fees, but i get 20% of his contest earnings and 10% of his skullcandy paychecks so id say that he was a good purchase.