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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: prof_oak on March 04, 2024, 07:01:21 AM
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Theres a meme goin on about this.
Whats up with that besides de obvious?
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People tend to skate shirtless on hot days. Strobeck is heavily influenced by Larry Clark and the way he presented life as a teenager in NYC in the movie Kids. Larry had a lot of scenes featuring teenage boys with no shirts on in his movies as a means to give a voyeuristic aesthetic to his movie.
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
What
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
Prove it, no pause.
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Strobeck might be hated in the skate community, but the guy has done wonders for the nipple community
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People tend to skate shirtless on hot days. Strobeck is heavily influenced by Larry Clark and the way he presented life as a teenager in NYC in the movie Kids. Larry had a lot of scenes featuring teenage boys with no shirts on in his movies as a means to give a voyeuristic aesthetic to his movie.
There is a photographer in Cali - Hugh Holland who has put out books documenting early skate culture on the west coast that does the same thing.
It does kind of weird me out the endless pics or closeups of young shirtless kids "sidewalk surfing" in his work.
Larry Clark straight up doesn't sit right with me.
One day we're all going to find out something and everyone is going to collectively go - 'AAAHH"
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love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
so you've seen violet and still feel that way? lol ok
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
What
yea what?
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
Strobinski filmed that train track kickflip wrong as fuck and you know it lmfao
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
(https://i.ibb.co/k9j2JLG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1d1GMC0)
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
(https://i.ibb.co/k9j2JLG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1d1GMC0)
The angle was chosen so the wire wasn't visible. Skate magic like clark hasslers ender
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I know karate, voodoo too
I'm gonna make myself available to you
I don't need no makeup, I got real scars
I got hair on my chest, I look good without a shirt
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People tend to skate shirtless on hot days. Strobeck is heavily influenced by Larry Clark and the way he presented life as a teenager in NYC in the movie Kids. Larry had a lot of scenes featuring teenage boys with no shirts on in his movies as a means to give a voyeuristic aesthetic to his movie.
quite the pretentious way of describing pedophilia. amazing fat bill isnt called out yet.
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hes innovating
one nipple at a time
zoomed in real close
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
What
Look at their username lol ;)
Did bill get another apartment? His original apartment looks hoarded with supreme gear lmao. NYC livin tho
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jason dill on that epstein tip
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People tend to skate shirtless on hot days. Strobeck is heavily influenced by Larry Clark and the way he presented life as a teenager in NYC in the movie Kids. Larry had a lot of scenes featuring teenage boys with no shirts on in his movies as a means to give a voyeuristic aesthetic to his movie.
There is a photographer in Cali - Hugh Holland who has put out books documenting early skate culture on the west coast that does the same thing.
It does kind of weird me out the endless pics or closeups of young shirtless kids "sidewalk surfing" in his work.
Larry Clark straight up doesn't sit right with me.
One day we're all going to find out something and everyone is going to collectively go - 'AAAHH"
Agree. I was 17 when he was filming Kids - and didnt want to be in any way connected with him.
He doesnt look / feel cool to me.
In comparison old Phelps was maybe sometimes an asshole - but cool with kids. At least with me and my friends.
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No shirt is sexy what's wrong with sexy?
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
(https://i.ibb.co/k9j2JLG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1d1GMC0)
not a strobeck hater - some stuff was done nice... but given all this Kader and Tyshawn footage to him
was a huge waste of talent. imagine some properly filming, editing and may some motivating / guidance to make the extra effort.
For all this fancy lifestyle shoots you dont need to film the most talented feets in skateboarding
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Fat Bill films your flamboyant son
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(https://i.ibb.co/pdhXzhv/Screenshot-2024-03-07-at-18-57-24.png) (https://ibb.co/pdhXzhv)
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kaders part in baker 4 was so well edited
its a shame hes on violet. Shits so boring. The hippie sign gets in my nerves everytime.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=BcovhnJ8yrczjeGu&v=s_3T3HkYXNw&feature=youtu.be
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are we ready to talk about billiam being on ozempic?
unless he's battling an illness. then in that case i'll delete this post
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People tend to skate shirtless on hot days. Strobeck is heavily influenced by Larry Clark and the way he presented life as a teenager in NYC in the movie Kids. Larry had a lot of scenes featuring teenage boys with no shirts on in his movies as a means to give a voyeuristic aesthetic to his movie.
There is a photographer in Cali - Hugh Holland who has put out books documenting early skate culture on the west coast that does the same thing.
It does kind of weird me out the endless pics or closeups of young shirtless kids "sidewalk surfing" in his work.
Larry Clark straight up doesn't sit right with me.
One day we're all going to find out something and everyone is going to collectively go - 'AAAHH"
Agree. I was 17 when he was filming Kids - and didnt want to be in any way connected with him.
He doesnt look / feel cool to me.
In comparison old Phelps was maybe sometimes an asshole - but cool with kids. At least with me and my friends.
Yeah Phelps was very cool to me and my friends
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People tend to skate shirtless on hot days. Strobeck is heavily influenced by Larry Clark and the way he presented life as a teenager in NYC in the movie Kids. Larry had a lot of scenes featuring teenage boys with no shirts on in his movies as a means to give a voyeuristic aesthetic to his movie.
quite the pretentious way of describing pedophilia. amazing fat bill isnt called out yet.
Don't get me wrong. I think there's probably something sketch going on with Larry and potentially Bill, especially considering the pedophilia in Hollywood that has come to light. Instead of lobbing accusations, I just wanted to give my opinion on the vibe that Bill might have been influenced by with his video and photography.
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I’d wear that if it was on a t shirt
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Mall grab sells it. Also, there’s a ton of kids in that movie without shirts. Might be a fat bill favorite.
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Bill and Nico the duffer need to meet.
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I think with Larry Clark its less about his desire for teens and more about him wanting to be a teen. He explains this a bit here: https://flash---art.com/article/mike-kelley-2/
MK: A lot of people see your work as homoerotic, especially the more recent work like the collages and the large-scale sequential photos of teenage boys. There are certain gay artists showing now whose work on the surface recalls yours.
LC: They just can’t get past the fact that it’s teenage boys. Someone I know once showed Allen Ginsberg Teenage Lust. Allen looked at the pictures and asked, “Is he gay?” and my friend said, “No”; Allen said, “Wanna bet?” There is that aspect, if you have fifteen-year-old kids in your pictures with hard-ons, people are going to think that. But what can I do about that? My wish would be to go back and be that age and be one of those normal kids.
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(https://i.ibb.co/pdhXzhv/Screenshot-2024-03-07-at-18-57-24.png) (https://ibb.co/pdhXzhv)
Fairplay.
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Buncha confused puritanical sissies… in my day sex was healthy and cool, sleeze was progressive and revolutionary because it felt good and made reactionaries squirm. Pedophilia is one thing but harmless homoeroticism (not to mention just plain old body-positivity) is quite another. Hourly moral panics on a skate forum is a very bad cultural omen… we’re doomed (at least until gen-A deconstructs ‘woke’ and swings the pendulum back again) this place is culturally regressive, turn on, tune in, drop out… or cancel and be canceled until you’re in diapers, your choice.
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Buncha confused puritanical sissies… in my day sex was healthy and cool, sleeze was progressive and revolutionary because it felt good and made reactionaries squirm. Pedophilia is one thing but harmless homoeroticism (not to mention just plain old body-positivity) is quite another. Hourly moral panics on a skate forum is a very bad cultural omen… we’re doomed (at least until gen-A deconstructs ‘woke’ and swings the pendulum back again) this place is culturally regressive, turn on, tune in, drop out… or cancel and be canceled until you’re in diapers, your choice.
Shit, I wish any of the projectors I’ve borrowed for video premieres projected as well as you are.
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
(https://i.ibb.co/k9j2JLG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1d1GMC0)
Filmed this way purely for the photo contingency and not your viewing pleasure.
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It’s especially odd to me especially because there’s plenty of footage of pros signing women’s breasts, women flashing in tour videos, pros talking about hooking up with women at demos and nobody questions their age or the intentions of the brand/filmer/pro etc.
Selective outrage. Not the biggest bill fan but I’ve always thought he caught an unnecessary amount of shit. It’s weird to see people think filming a shirtless skater is bordering pedophilia but feeding alcohol and drugs to minors in the good ole days is fine.
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If your videographer is 40+, keep your shirt on and don't do drugs.
or not
Who cares?! Get out there and sling the Toy x Supreme drop, that's the important part!!
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has Tyshawn ever had to redo something cause a racist said he didnt clear the table because of how fat bill filmed the trick? didnt think so
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Damn I’m gay and I don’t see strobeck videos as being homo erotic or at all sexual (except in the vaguest sense that anything can be viewed as sexual depending on the observer). It’s strange to me that so many straight guys see a dude with his shirt off and go into hysteria because I don’t know any homos who feel this way about his edits it’s literally only straight dudes that freak out about it/even see it as anything sexual.
It’s especially odd to me especially because there’s plenty of footage of pros signing women’s breasts, women flashing in tour videos, pros talking about hooking up with women at demos and nobody questions their age or the intentions of the brand/filmer/pro etc.
Not saying it’s impossible that you’re all right about strobeck. If that’s the case that’s awful. I can’t help but think these comments say much more about the lens of the person making the comment more than they do the intentions of strobeck.
I do wish he’d zoom out a bit. He films some amazing skating and sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s going on
You're conveniently missing the point here. It's not about being homo erotic. No one would give a fuck if there was an edit with grown ass men with their shirts off, but in William's edits their fucking kids. Baby faced teens. So It's not a gay thing its a pedo thing.
The next part you're missing is that the shirt off minor is seen in a large majority of his edits. If some brand or filmer had tit signings or some other overt display of sexuality in every single edit they put out I have a strong feeling they'd be criticized the same.
So rather than try and make this about you, you should look at it objectively for what it is. I aint saying it's a fact but it aint normal to be 40 years old and have so much recorded video of kids under 18 without their shirts on, doing drugs, drinking. We all fucking roasted Mikey Taylor for smoking weed with children but Strobeck gets a pass cause he's "artsy" or some bullshit? give me a break.
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Fuckin LOL
Absolutely S-tier Slapping here Pal.
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I think with Larry Clark its less about his desire for teens and more about him wanting to be a teen. He explains this a bit here: https://flash---art.com/article/mike-kelley-2/
MK: A lot of people see your work as homoerotic, especially the more recent work like the collages and the large-scale sequential photos of teenage boys. There are certain gay artists showing now whose work on the surface recalls yours.
LC: They just can’t get past the fact that it’s teenage boys. Someone I know once showed Allen Ginsberg Teenage Lust. Allen looked at the pictures and asked, “Is he gay?” and my friend said, “No”; Allen said, “Wanna bet?” There is that aspect, if you have fifteen-year-old kids in your pictures with hard-ons, people are going to think that. But what can I do about that? My wish would be to go back and be that age and be one of those normal kids.
Jeez I can't imagine why people would question someone taking pictures of underage men with hard ons. Also I don't know about anyone else, but none of my "normal kid" friends were going around taking photos of each other with boners
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
What
name checks out
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This is gold!
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
(https://i.ibb.co/k9j2JLG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1d1GMC0)
not a strobeck hater - some stuff was done nice... but given all this Kader and Tyshawn footage to him
was a huge waste of talent. imagine some properly filming, editing and may some motivating / guidance to make the extra effort.
For all this fancy lifestyle shoots you dont need to film the most talented feets in skateboarding
Yes. Strobek gets to film some of the most talented feats in skateboarding, but ends up filming feets instead.
"He's [a skateboarding star], and he's [talented]. Feel these [talented] feets." - Gregory
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Just amazing. I love that he's mall-grabbing.
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Theres a meme goin on about this.
Whats up with that besides de obvious?
(https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/jenkem-bill-strobeck-mix-HED.jpg)
Fuck Strokeback, all my homies hate Strokeback.
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Goddamn that's good.
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
Barf. Fucking sick pseudo intellectual bullshit there bud. Get off you pretentious art major high horse.
The irony of your labeling is that you sound like a numb nuts that is totally brain washed by the opposite side of the spectrum, to just let every fucking thing fly.
There's teen art and expression sure, and guess what asshole? If it was a teenager making the art no one would bat an eye. But it's not is it. Its a guy that's in his 40s in a place of power with mad photos and videos of youngins topless(in his apartment as well no less). Again i aint saying its a fact hes on some pedo shit, but for it to be out of this world to suggest something suspect is going on then you're living in a fantasy land of daisies and roses where nothing bad ever happens and we all have to be super supportive of everything we do. You clearly havn't read the diddy files my g
You're a cornball for real. You quote Leary's turn on, tune and drop out(again mad corny like a sorority sister Instagram bio) which is again super ironic cause you seem pretty fucking turned off and tuned out.
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
did uncle strobe take photos of you?
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
Been a while since I've gotten to say this *ahem*... focus.
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
sus
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
You sound like a paranoid right-winger in this rant lol
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
Barf. Fucking sick pseudo intellectual bullshit there bud. Get off you pretentious art major high horse.
The irony of your labeling is that you sound like a numb nuts that is totally brain washed by the opposite side of the spectrum, to just let every fucking thing fly.
There's teen art and expression sure, and guess what asshole? If it was a teenager making the art no one would bat an eye. But it's not is it. Its a guy that's in his 40s in a place of power with mad photos and videos of youngins topless(in his apartment as well no less). Again i aint saying its a fact hes on some pedo shit, but for it to be out of this world to suggest something suspect is going on then you're living in a fantasy land of daisies and roses where nothing bad ever happens and we all have to be super supportive of everything we do. You clearly havn't read the diddy files my g
You're a cornball for real. You quote Leary's turn on, tune and drop out(again mad corny like a sorority sister Instagram bio) which is again super ironic cause you seem pretty fucking turned off and tuned out.
Got it, only art of teens for teens by teens. Categorical purity rules for art-making lol good luck with that, sounds to me like the slippery slope to authoritarianism. But I’ll def make sure any art I make or consume going forward was made by the right representative of the right identity group of the right age and gender and the best intentions so as to not to raise any suspicions with the authorities (or clowns like you).
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
Barf. Fucking sick pseudo intellectual bullshit there bud. Get off you pretentious art major high horse.
The irony of your labeling is that you sound like a numb nuts that is totally brain washed by the opposite side of the spectrum, to just let every fucking thing fly.
There's teen art and expression sure, and guess what asshole? If it was a teenager making the art no one would bat an eye. But it's not is it. Its a guy that's in his 40s in a place of power with mad photos and videos of youngins topless(in his apartment as well no less). Again i aint saying its a fact hes on some pedo shit, but for it to be out of this world to suggest something suspect is going on then you're living in a fantasy land of daisies and roses where nothing bad ever happens and we all have to be super supportive of everything we do. You clearly havn't read the diddy files my g
You're a cornball for real. You quote Leary's turn on, tune and drop out(again mad corny like a sorority sister Instagram bio) which is again super ironic cause you seem pretty fucking turned off and tuned out.
Got it, only art of teens for teens by teens. Categorical purity rules for art-making lol good luck with that, sounds to me like the slippery slope to authoritarianism. But I’ll def make sure any art I make or consume going forward was made by the right representative of the right identity group of the right age and gender and the best intentions so as to not to raise any suspicions with the authorities (or clowns like you).
I forgot you're legit sean pablo. Nice trying to make it seem like you're from some by gone era of counter culture or whatever.
When did anyone one ever once say he should be restricted from making his shitty " art". Never. When did anyone say only specific groups can make specific things? never. Why are you inflating the issue talking about authoritarianism? Make all the lame ass edits he wants with all the hottest underage boys, girls and they thems around. But don't be mad when people speak their mind and call it whack and suspect.
You're just mad people think edge lord is fucking corny as shit and want it to die.
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Theres a meme goin on about this.
Whats up with that besides de obvious?
Fuck Strokeback, all my homies hate Strokeback.
Since he's posing in this photo as Tom of Finland/Cruising/Leather Stud, would this be considered Gayface?
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
Ah, yes… I too wistfully long for Berlin of the 1920s.
Bless you, fellow free spirit.
But for real? We’re not green lighting exploitation of minors in the name of liberty anymore than we’re giving the go to burning down houses of worship. Liberty needn’t be stretched to its furthest extreme just to prove its worth/merit.
Example: I’m all about freedom of expression, speech, political views, etc, but if a group of white nationalists decides to parade down my street, I’m going to be there with rocks, exercising MY freedom of speech & then what?!?
It’s cool for Bill’s skate videos to feature young shirtless boys, but it would be even cooler if he’d feature a well filmed trick or line as often as he hyper-zooms in on some teenage boy’s mouth.
I mean, that guy gonna skate with his lips, or…? Why we seeing that?
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Theres a meme goin on about this.
Whats up with that besides de obvious?
Fuck Strokeback, all my homies hate Strokeback.
Since he's posing in this photo as Tom of Finland/Cruising/Leather Stud, would this be considered Gayface?
Been calling comedians in fat suits Fatface for years so yeah I think you're on it
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Buncha confused puritanical sissies… in my day sex was healthy and cool, sleeze was progressive and revolutionary because it felt good and made reactionaries squirm. Pedophilia is one thing but harmless homoeroticism (not to mention just plain old body-positivity) is quite another. Hourly moral panics on a skate forum is a very bad cultural omen… we’re doomed (at least until gen-A deconstructs ‘woke’ and swings the pendulum back again) this place is culturally regressive, turn on, tune in, drop out… or cancel and be canceled until you’re in diapers, your choice.
I assume you’re pretty awkward under the sheets…and that your partners find those moments to be quite strange, calculated, passionless and rather unsexy…..sorry for being mean….Also, this rant is just an assumption. I could be dead wrong…you might be a hunk, for all I know..
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Yeah yeah yeah right wing this left wing that
take your shirt off and do a nollie flip or you're not going in the video
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
What in the fuck
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Scatalogical residue?
We talking shit mist hear bud? That stuff is really bad for your health.
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Damn I’m gay and I don’t see strobeck videos as being homo erotic or at all sexual (except in the vaguest sense that anything can be viewed as sexual depending on the observer). It’s strange to me that so many straight guys see a dude with his shirt off and go into hysteria because I don’t know any homos who feel this way about his edits it’s literally only straight dudes that freak out about it/even see it as anything sexual.
It’s especially odd to me especially because there’s plenty of footage of pros signing women’s breasts, women flashing in tour videos, pros talking about hooking up with women at demos and nobody questions their age or the intentions of the brand/filmer/pro etc.
Not saying it’s impossible that you’re all right about strobeck. If that’s the case that’s awful. I can’t help but think these comments say much more about the lens of the person making the comment more than they do the intentions of strobeck.
I do wish he’d zoom out a bit. He films some amazing skating and sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s going on
Why was this post deleted? I thought there was some good points here and things I had never considered before.
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Yeah - Strobeck‘s filming got old over the last 10 years, but it’s equally tiring to hear the same discussion over and over again.
Regarding the shirtless boys things - I don’t see it as problematic as a lot of you do. Maybe it’s a US/Euro difference thing. It’s a cheap vehicle of transporting innocence, youth, endless summers of joy and fun. The last big summer of our final Highschool year. And an Hommage to Larry Clark/Kids, since that movie played a big role in how skateboarding as a youth culture was established in the main stream. Probably a little bit of trying to be transgressive, too. More in that direction.
And regarding the legal side of things, maybe someone with more insight can chime in, but I’d assume that since the kids are minors, that they’d need their parents’ consent and the material being published.
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Damn I’m gay and I don’t see strobeck videos as being homo erotic or at all sexual (except in the vaguest sense that anything can be viewed as sexual depending on the observer). It’s strange to me that so many straight guys see a dude with his shirt off and go into hysteria because I don’t know any homos who feel this way about his edits it’s literally only straight dudes that freak out about it/even see it as anything sexual.
It’s especially odd to me especially because there’s plenty of footage of pros signing women’s breasts, women flashing in tour videos, pros talking about hooking up with women at demos and nobody questions their age or the intentions of the brand/filmer/pro etc.
Not saying it’s impossible that you’re all right about strobeck. If that’s the case that’s awful. I can’t help but think these comments say much more about the lens of the person making the comment more than they do the intentions of strobeck.
I do wish he’d zoom out a bit. He films some amazing skating and sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s going on
Why was this post deleted? I thought there was some good points here and things I had never considered before.
Agreed. But are you sure he didn't just delete it himself? I do that sometimes.
I don't like my shirts getting all sweaty and sticky, so I pretty much take my shirt of every time I skate when it's hot or humid. It's amazing the amount I get yelled at from passing cars, always a jocky dude yelling "put your shirt on." I'm kinda skinny and I figure they are projecting their own shame about not being big enough, but I just couldn't give less of a shit.
That said, I try to always put a shirt on if I'm going to film, because I like the way clothes move and I think the footage looks better, barring exceptions.
Bill's stuff just looks life typical fashion photography to me, which is highly sexualized and plays with a lot of unhealthy tropes if you want to get into it. But it's so common in advertising and pop culture that I don't really associate it with him personally or notice it particularly in his stuff.
Here's my second favourite pet shop boys video. It's directed by Bruce Weber, a famous fashion photographer who I see as an archetype for the type of stuff fat Bill references
https://youtu.be/DnvFOaBoieE
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He should call his next video aureolamaxxing
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What does Strobeck and people who film porn have in common?
They both like zooming in on the face during the finale
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Ok I think we’re all thinking about this too much.
Strobeck is just a weird fucking dork who happened to film some cool shit just competently enough (love the ass shot on that Kalis Tre flip dumbass) up until everyone started gassing his involvement on some important videos around 2010 and then he really started believing that he was the reason Photo and Mind Field and cherry was so great, and started dressing up in clothes that don’t fit like he’s some community college fine arts professor.
Shout out to Bill saying Stefan is like pac-man.
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Sometime watching a Bill vid it struck me that Beagle has become the Stanley Kubrick of skate filmers at this point. I never expected some of the greatest footage of the last 10 years to be reduced to shoelaces and wild cuts. BHAD2 is fully off the hook though.
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
What
I think he was kidding, or just hasn’t paid any attention to what he’s done after Photosynthesis.
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
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The angle was chosen so the wire wasn't visible. Skate magic like clark hasslers ender
what wire? (seriously)
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
(https://i.ibb.co/k9j2JLG/IMG-3892.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1d1GMC0)
The angle was chosen so the wire wasn't visible. Skate magic like clark hasslers ender
what wire? (seriously)
There was no wire. Clark's planet needed him.
Note: Clark Hassler died on the way back to his home planet.
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as long as there are stupid people, strokebeck, suprem, friggin cool, and whatever minimalist brand ur newly graduated cooper union homie has will prosper. good for them for duping ppl for almost blank t shirts and
borderline pedo videos and making a buck off it too. how long until he gets the dan schneider treatment
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Gatekeepers choosing young people for a rare precious opportunity of a skate career. What could go wrong?
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I hate skatebloarding with clothes on.
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Pedo-conspiratorial hysteria is just more scatalogical residue of twisted, paranoid right-wing demonology… Satanic cabals, human sacrifice, child sex trafficking, ritual murder, cannibalism, sinister amoral behavior, obscene plots, corruption and immorality practiced by demonic liberal elites, decadent artists, immoral libertines, aging skate filmers, punkers, rappers, radicals and revolutionaries, commies, homos, weirdos, immigrants, enemies of the state, etc… just more evidence of the rot growing in the American social structure… blah, blah, c’mon boys, how long u gonna fall for this puritanical reactionary QAnon bullshit, it’s a dumbing-down, a means of control i tell ya.
Obviously there are red lines, pedophiles really exist but measured judgement and critical thinking are skills worth developing. Pluralism, nonconformity and novel unfamiliar difference (like cross-generational friendships, confusing gender norms, topless male teenagers oh my!) free expression, free thinking, free speech and uncensored art are incredible cultural achievements, things worth preserving and fighting for, especially when some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the price and promise of freedom.
Teenage aesthetics can be beautiful, poetic, sublime and worthy of artistic attention (just like any other aspect of human life) and can easily be revelatory and sincerely non-exploitative, ie necessary but not sufficient for pedophilia. Let’s stop the slippery slide into paranoia, anti-naturalism, censorship and totalitarianism. A healthy society is an open society, progress demands freedom, moral courage, experimentation, risk-taking, radical openness and tolerance, uncomfortable feelings/ideas, challenges to social norms and historical/cultural assumptions, etc… without the constant threat of cancellation, social shame (and/or violence).
it’s sad, the vibe around here nowadays reminds me of high school, only a very limited group of acceptable ideas/attitudes are tolerated by the socially dominant alphas (primitive bullies) who enforce strict conformity to the sacred slap shibboleths. This is pernicious, regressive conservatism by any definition.
(https://i.ibb.co/DQhYtTQ/IMG-3261.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Regarding the shirtless boys things - I don’t see it as problematic as a lot of you do.
I don't find the whole thing problematic at all. Just weird.
I'm 46 and have been filming skating most of my life starting with my first video in 1998 and am actually finishing up a full length right now. I also manage the skateshop here so have friends and sometimes skate with people in their early 20s.
But if I were hanging out with them in an apartment filming them while they smoke weed with their shirts off that would just be fucking weird. Bill is one year younger than me.
I get that it's an aesthetic he's going for that he probably gets paid quite well for by Supreme because Supreme wants the edgy shit but if he's a true artist (which I'm assuming he believes he is), he should be able to make art without relying on weird shit like that.
Then again I am married and own a house in the middle of Canada so what can I say about a dude in New York getting paid by Supreme to hang out and film people half his age smoking weed with their shirts off?
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I take my shirt off when on Slap in case some of you can see me
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I wonder if he always has the heat turned way up
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Regarding the shirtless boys things - I don’t see it as problematic as a lot of you do.
I don't find the whole thing problematic at all. Just weird.
I'm 46 and have been filming skating most of my life starting with my first video in 1998 and am actually finishing up a full length right now. I also manage the skateshop here so have friends and sometimes skate with people in their early 20s.
But if I were hanging out with them in an apartment filming them while they smoke weed with their shirts off that would just be fucking weird. Bill is one year younger than me.
I get that it's an aesthetic he's going for that he probably gets paid quite well for by Supreme because Supreme wants the edgy shit but if he's a true artist (which I'm assuming he believes he is), he should be able to make art without relying on weird shit like that.
Then again I am married and own a house in the middle of Canada so what can I say about a dude in New York getting paid by Supreme to hang out and film people half his age smoking weed with their shirts off?
Fully agree with you here
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slap's nipple gate. i must say i don't have strong opinions on this matter. but i prefer watching skaters with a shirt on. call me old fashion 8)
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Supreme needs to make one of those t-shirts with a pair of women's breasts (giving the illusion of nudity), but use an Italian teen grom's hairless chest instead; they could call it the "Roosterhawk."
A little somethin' for all the Never Nude/Gymnophobic hypebeats and team riders.
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What if the person fat bill is filming just take the shirt off and bill never asked them to ? I know. Beebs filmed that crazy shit of people beating people in the streets and instead of sending it to anti hero for a cut in a montage video he just posted it on the gram and looked very swoll and got cancels. Beebs brought back the shirtless street vibes. That whole thing with how the skate world treat verbs don’t sit right. How the fuck you gonna side with wreckball? Of all the lame people to do cool shit he is the guy. I would never do that dudes acid. Never.
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are we ready to talk about billiam being on ozempic?
unless he's battling an illness. then in that case i'll delete this post
Bill gone full fatty 2 flatty
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I look good without a shirt but skating without a shirt is cornball.
love strobeck and he can do no wrong though
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William Slobeck
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willy ham sucks neck