JASON DILL OUTS HIMSELF AS A NARCISSIST, AGAIN.

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I'm pretty new to slap, is the general opinion of Dill pretty low on here? Serious question. I've always enjoyed his skating but I've heard less than good things about him in the industry. I don't really know much about that shit though, that's why I came here. I thought   it was fucking hilarious when he made that doodle for the nine club and botched crobs quote on it though. A very "the office" type of funny moment.

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I'm a fan of his skating. He's just eccentric and that makes a pretty easy target to talk shit about.

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Exactly. Plus FA is "hot" right now which makes the brand an easy target. There's always going to be skateboarders who attack the companies in skateboarding who crossover to the mainstream since skateboarding is all they have to give themselves an identity...So to them seeing people "appropriate their culture" devalues their already valueless identity....and that's obviously too much for their fragile little egos to handle

Dill is a self made dude, who against all odds did really well for himself, and those kinds of stories are what schools should be promoting right now considering how most kids end up leaving school and failing to pursue anything of significance because of the shit people like Bernie Sanders pound into their heads.

Anybody can make it in this country and Dill is proof of that.

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Imagine typing this

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That brwrxstl guy is a cop.

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You know I’m not a huge Bernie guy although I think he’s a fucking real one and a good man at his core, but isn’t his message that we should be educating everyone in the country with college, hence why he wants people to get free college. Like isn’t that like the epitome of counterintuitive? Like if he didn’t want people to go to college and get educated why would one of his biggest points be to provide free college education? Like the whole point whether u agree or disagree with the man is that he wants the country to be educated, he just disputes that taxpayers should pay the burden, which definitely seems unfair to those who didn’t get their education paid for but the whole idea is that eventually the populace pays into it throughout their lifetime like social security. Whether you disagree with that method or not, it’s clear the man wants Americans to be educated.

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You have a point about education. I took that a bit too far without adding context. Bernie himself isn't anti education but ..... we saw it again tonight where he literally said "billionaires shouldn't exist".
That's a horrible message to send. We should be pushing people to achieve and that achievement in itself can be limitless. So when demonizes the rich like that it demonizes the concept of success as a whole. That's what I should've said. His message at times can accidentally underscore education*

Thanks for making me reflect on that.

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 I think it’s an even more horrible message to send that your idea of “success” should only be how much extreme wealth you can hoard while exploiting, or at best ignoring, the suffering of virtually everyone else in the world. We definitely should not be spreading the idea that’s something to “achieve”. I’d like to know what true purpose there is to having more money than you can ever possibly spend even if you lived thousands of years, besides maybe perverse bragging rights. The ruthless pursuit of short-term profits has ruined endless lives and is like literally putting the earth itself in mortal danger. The rich demonize themselves with their actions, no one needs to do it for them

Agreed.

I'm sorry, but it's true that "billionaires shouldn't exist".

Why does Bezos need so much money? And what has he done to get it? The guy is a criminal but it's ok because his company is a success story (at least financially for it's CEO)?

He has more money than he'll ever be able to spend. I'm not a communist and I'm on the fence on socialism, but c'mon, there's got to be some balance. In Japan many companies are set up where the CEO doesn't make 100000000% more than the lowest paid employee. There is still some honor in business if you want to call it that. Henry Ford created the middle class in the USA at the turn of the 20th century by giving his employees an unusually high salary, but now that middle class is completely gone. There are the poor, and there are the super rich. Those still in the middle class are those who came up through it, but there are very few 20somethings in the USA that will know what comfortable middle class life feels like unless a lot changes.

We need to start blaming those at blame. The supervillian CEOs who don't give a flying fuck about their employees or humans or the world in general and only care about adding billions to their fortune. Fuck these people and their money. I'm not impressed.

[brwrxstl]

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I'm pretty new to slap, is the general opinion of Dill pretty low on here? Serious question. I've always enjoyed his skating but I've heard less than good things about him in the industry. I don't really know much about that shit though, that's why I came here. I thought   it was fucking hilarious when he made that doodle for the nine club and botched crobs quote on it though. A very "the office" type of funny moment.

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I'm a fan of his skating. He's just eccentric and that makes a pretty easy target to talk shit about.

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Exactly. Plus FA is "hot" right now which makes the brand an easy target. There's always going to be skateboarders who attack the companies in skateboarding who crossover to the mainstream since skateboarding is all they have to give themselves an identity...So to them seeing people "appropriate their culture" devalues their already valueless identity....and that's obviously too much for their fragile little egos to handle

Dill is a self made dude, who against all odds did really well for himself, and those kinds of stories are what schools should be promoting right now considering how most kids end up leaving school and failing to pursue anything of significance because of the shit people like Bernie Sanders pound into their heads.

Anybody can make it in this country and Dill is proof of that.

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Imagine typing this

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no thanks

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That brwrxstl guy is a cop.

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You know I’m not a huge Bernie guy although I think he’s a fucking real one and a good man at his core, but isn’t his message that we should be educating everyone in the country with college, hence why he wants people to get free college. Like isn’t that like the epitome of counterintuitive? Like if he didn’t want people to go to college and get educated why would one of his biggest points be to provide free college education? Like the whole point whether u agree or disagree with the man is that he wants the country to be educated, he just disputes that taxpayers should pay the burden, which definitely seems unfair to those who didn’t get their education paid for but the whole idea is that eventually the populace pays into it throughout their lifetime like social security. Whether you disagree with that method or not, it’s clear the man wants Americans to be educated.

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You have a point about education. I took that a bit too far without adding context. Bernie himself isn't anti education but ..... we saw it again tonight where he literally said "billionaires shouldn't exist".
That's a horrible message to send. We should be pushing people to achieve and that achievement in itself can be limitless. So when demonizes the rich like that it demonizes the concept of success as a whole. That's what I should've said. His message at times can accidentally underscore education*

Thanks for making me reflect on that.

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 I think it’s an even more horrible message to send that your idea of “success” should only be how much extreme wealth you can hoard while exploiting, or at best ignoring, the suffering of virtually everyone else in the world. We definitely should not be spreading the idea that’s something to “achieve”. I’d like to know what true purpose there is to having more money than you can ever possibly spend even if you lived thousands of years, besides maybe perverse bragging rights. The ruthless pursuit of short-term profits has ruined endless lives and is like literally putting the earth itself in mortal danger. The rich demonize themselves with their actions, no one needs to do it for them

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Agreed.

I'm sorry, but it's true that "billionaires shouldn't exist".

Why does Bezos need so much money? And what has he done to get it? The guy is a criminal but it's ok because his company is a success story (at least financially for it's CEO)?

He has more money than he'll ever be able to spend. I'm not a communist and I'm on the fence on socialism, but c'mon, there's got to be some balance. In Japan many companies are set up where the CEO doesn't make 100000000% more than the lowest paid employee. There is still some honor in business if you want to call it that. Henry Ford created the middle class in the USA at the turn of the 20th century by giving his employees an unusually high salary, but now that middle class is completely gone. There are the poor, and there are the super rich. Those still in the middle class are those who came up through it, but there are very few 20somethings in the USA that will know what comfortable middle class life feels like unless a lot changes.

We need to start blaming those at blame. The supervillian CEOs who don't give a flying fuck about their employees or humans or the world in general and only care about adding billions to their fortune. Fuck these people and their money. I'm not impressed.

Well sure. I'm defending people like that. I'm just defending the ability for people to obtain limitless wealth. Obviously with everything there's still going to be ethics involved with what you do with that money.

Amazon has made a lot of people rich, and they'll continue to do so. The company itself is a good thing in the sense of job creation. I don't even mean Amazon Jobs themselves either. I'm talking about companies that exist to supply or provide services to Amazon. Andrew Yang talked about the rise of autonation that's on the horizon, and that industry itself is going to make a lot of people rich again thanks to Amazon. Whether it's drone hardware companies, drone efficiency companies, or  whatever. There's plenty of ways people can still make their own billions thanks to Amazon.

But Bezos himself? Yeah I'm not a fan. But for every Bezos there's a Bill Gates or Buffet that does "good things" with their money but again that's an issue of personal morality and ethics more than anything.


Like If I was super rich my focus would be on making my community better and helping kids get better education, and I'd really go crazy investing in plant based foods, and animal rights related stuff. But that would be driven by me as a person. So that desire has to exist before you even get rich. 

That's what I hate about liberalism and socialism is that the people in power rely on this "you're a victim of the system" message rather  a "you should achieve success within the system to make the world a better place".


Bloomberg is another example. The guy is dumping hundreds of millions into a virtue driven campaign instead of just taking that money and actually doing virtuous things. It's insane. But that's again not to say that he couldn't do the opposite if he chose to which is why I'll always defend the idea of unlimited wealth.... because what you do with that money will always be dependent on free will.

[S.]

Ok. You are extremely naive. May I suggest you look up some data? Inequality has exploded in western capitalism. The current model makes very few people extremely rich. Fewer and fewer people profit thanks to strategies of companies like amazon.

I agree that potentially alot of people could profit from automation. However, if the companies that profit do not pay their taxes and/or raise the wages of their employees, the only people that are going to profit are shareholders and other investors.

Unless you own a bunch of stocks or manage a big company you are fucking stupid. You defend a position, which is in the interst of other people.

[dooley]

You guys are being trolled by a cop - not a metaphor.

[Complements4U]

What you mean is he "donut operator"? I think that dude posted on here a year back.

[dooley]

He claimed to be in law enforcement and hasn't made any denials here. When he goes to the skatepark (and I know it's a skatepark, not a real spot), does he bring donuts? Perhaps.

[thebacker]

[dooley]

Let them eat cake - in this case, donuts.

[Agnarnomous]

Oh, economic politics on SLAP, great. This is like when you go to your friends house to have fun, and their mom puts on cartoons, but they're all just religious stories told by cgi vegetables. Not cool, or fun, at all.

[SHARPSHOOTER]

Ok. You are extremely naive. May I suggest you look up some data? Inequality has exploded in western capitalism. The current model makes very few people extremely rich. Fewer and fewer people profit thanks to strategies of companies like amazon.

I agree that potentially alot of people could profit from automation. However, if the companies that profit do not pay their taxes and/or raise the wages of their employees, the only people that are going to profit are shareholders and other investors.

Unless you own a bunch of stocks or manage a big company you are fucking stupid. You defend a position, which is in the interst of other people.

Automation is going to single handily destroy the middle class. Seems like people assume automation is stuff like conveyor belts and robots taking over simple manufacturing process jobs when that’s in fact wrong. My industry alone they have automated trucks and cranes in China that run 24/7, wiping out thousands of jobs just like that.

They have automated radiologists, x-ray techs and journalists. That’s just scratching the surface.

Yang had the idea of taxes the automations like people but even still we need to protect our jobs. People continue to get poorer and poorer every year and they wonder why? The jobs are disappearing before our eyes.

[cheetahsheets]

Well sure. I'm defending people like that. I'm just defending the ability for people to obtain limitless wealth. Obviously with everything there's still going to be ethics involved with what you do with that money.

Amazon has made a lot of people rich, and they'll continue to do so. The company itself is a good thing in the sense of job creation. I don't even mean Amazon Jobs themselves either. I'm talking about companies that exist to supply or provide services to Amazon. Andrew Yang talked about the rise of autonation that's on the horizon, and that industry itself is going to make a lot of people rich again thanks to Amazon. Whether it's drone hardware companies, drone efficiency companies, or  whatever. There's plenty of ways people can still make their own billions thanks to Amazon.

But Bezos himself? Yeah I'm not a fan. But for every Bezos there's a Bill Gates or Buffet that does "good things" with their money but again that's an issue of personal morality and ethics more than anything.


Like If I was super rich my focus would be on making my community better and helping kids get better education, and I'd really go crazy investing in plant based foods, and animal rights related stuff. But that would be driven by me as a person. So that desire has to exist before you even get rich. 

That's what I hate about liberalism and socialism is that the people in power rely on this "you're a victim of the system" message rather  a "you should achieve success within the system to make the world a better place".


Bloomberg is another example. The guy is dumping hundreds of millions into a virtue driven campaign instead of just taking that money and actually doing virtuous things. It's insane. But that's again not to say that he couldn't do the opposite if he chose to which is why I'll always defend the idea of unlimited wealth.... because what you do with that money will always be dependent on free will.

Look I’m a really well paid engineer and am a great not just good but great skateboarder. I’ve spent thousands of hours doing both to become really good at what I do. I naturally want to believe in working hard and reaping what you sow. At the end of the day though it’s kind of a scam to think like that. It seems the most moral from a selfish standpoint, like in the sense of if you were in that guys shoes you wouldn’t want that money taken away, just like you don’t want your own money taken away. Problem is with a fixed currency this is an extremely complex problem. At the end of the day it comes down to the velocity of money, which sure international power of your currency comes into play And some other random external things out of control are there, but it’s such a small parasitic on the actual equations governing buying power. If you’re not familiar with velocity of money it’s essentially the buying power of your dollar. The number of the velocity equates to how much that specific dollar was circulated in a calendar year. I think In the 1970’s America’s velocity was like 7 something, which means that dollar was spent 7 times by different entities throughout the year. In the modern day the velocity is something like 1.3-1.4 last time I checked which was like a year ago or some shit. Either way our buying power of the currency has decreased because our currency doesn’t circulate. Well you could say then we’ll why don’t we mint more money, well if you mint more money then you cause inflation to rise which then decreases buying power even more. Essentially the only way to solve the United States economic crisis if you actually do the math and the research which I did a year or two ago you will basically reach the conclusion that the only way out is to circulate the money more. There’s a number of issues with this though, like if you are worth a hundred billion dollars, what do you have to invest all that money in? This is definitely the reason why reagonomics and that republican way of thinking in regards to economics is so narrow minded and based on a time when capitalism was very small wealth(at least in comparison to now). Like you realize capitalism is based on times of bartering and like society and a much more primal point. Either way you just don’t have enough to invest in if you are a billionaire, plus imagine if you were in there shoes, you’re not going to invest 50% of your savings into stocks are you(I mean do you?). Either way even if you do spend 50% into our economy for company growth/jobs, that billionaire is still sitting on billions of dollars that will never be circulated back into our economy. Then they will die, and there kids will get it, and the kids who really never made the money will be even more frugal in investment creating essentially this trap of wealth that will never be given back to the economy of the country essentially ballooning our velocity over time. I remember talking with a republican fellow of mine who’s a genius engineer, and we talked about this and both agree that the velocity is the only way to solve this countries economics crisis. We also both agreed that investment like that is futile, but the difference is my suggestion was we tax those people and take that money away to circulate it, but he didn’t like that because he still is stuck in that old world view of reaping what u sow. His thought was well eventually a war or a pandemic will come along that will essentially redistribute the wealth and we should wait for that, which is an absurd thought but you know y’all are stuck in an old way of thinking which seems intuitive at its basis, but once extrapolated for a such a complex modern system just falls the fuck apart. Like you don’t realize that basically your way of thinking is making literally 1,000 people shaft over 350 million in the case of the United States of America. Like I’m all for the concept because it seems moral when you think in a narrow minded way like that, but like it seems extremely immoral when you realize the amount of people including you who get shafted over by this. In my opinion they should have a 50% death tax on billionaires that die and it would solve this issue, especially because inherited wealth is what balloons this, but hey that’s just me.

[Fre$HPrince]

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[SHIREFLIP]

Gentlemen. Moneys is cool and all, but let's get back to the matter at hand here.

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Bloomberg is another example. The guy is dumping hundreds of millions into a virtue driven campaign instead of just taking that money and actually doing virtuous things. It's insane. But that's again not to say that he couldn't do the opposite if he chose to which is why I'll always defend the idea of unlimited wealth.... because what you do with that money will always be dependent on free will.

you sound naive.....when you have limitless wealth it is more about protecting your public image and not necessarily about making change

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Bloomberg is another example. The guy is dumping hundreds of millions into a virtue driven campaign instead of just taking that money and actually doing virtuous things. It's insane. But that's again not to say that he couldn't do the opposite if he chose to which is why I'll always defend the idea of unlimited wealth.... because what you do with that money will always be dependent on free will.

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you sound naive.....when you have limitless wealth it is more about protecting your public image and not necessarily about making change

Sadly people that hoard wealth tend to not be too giving. But I guess it takes a sociopath to get there 90% of the time anyways so it kinda lines up with expectations.

[GAY]

I enjoy the conundrum Dill represents to posters on SLAP who consistently strive to be contrarian.

[dooley]

This shit turned into the Mikey Taylor economics thread real quick.

[toe_knee]

What??

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https://art.asu.edu/events/guest-speaker-jason-dill

Jason Dill — artist, designer and founder of the LA-based brand FA (F-ing Awesome) with a store on Hollywood Blvd., will be visiting our program to talk about his brand and experience, answer students’ questions and provide advice. Jason has a very large following and his story — where he is coming from, how he was able to overcome the difficult phases of his life and ultimately build FA — his successful company/brand, has great potential to inspire the young generation of fashion and non-fashion students alike.

The presentation will be open to the public.

[Ocelot]

ah yes.... economics, my favorite

[dooley]

Anyone going tomorrow? He might bring his whittle sculptures. This is a duck.

[Bristol_Palin]

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This is good

I agree I enjoy these very much. Also they sort of give me claustrophobia at times too. It’s worth it though.

[Fre$HPrince]

[TheLurper]

Anyone going tomorrow? He might bring his whittle sculptures. This is a duck.

I'm considering going tomorrow.

I just can't even imagine what he is going to say.

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Anyone going tomorrow? He might bring his whittle sculptures. This is a duck.

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I'm considering going tomorrow.

I just can't even imagine what he is going to say.

I like A1 Meats Dill through 101 Dill, but never really cared much outside of those years.  Dude strikes me as someone who could spend a full hour talking about his suede loafer collection in a conversation I wouldn't want to be a part of.

[Buck Russell]

just jumping in to remind everyone once again that so many of you guys are such fucking losers.

[dooley]

^FA board. Noted, thank you.

[brwrxstl]

Ok. You are extremely naive. May I suggest you look up some data? Inequality has exploded in western capitalism. The current model makes very few people extremely rich. Fewer and fewer people profit thanks to strategies of companies like amazon.

I agree that potentially alot of people could profit from automation. However, if the companies that profit do not pay their taxes and/or raise the wages of their employees, the only people that are going to profit are shareholders and other investors.

Unless you own a bunch of stocks or manage a big company you are fucking stupid. You defend a position, which is in the interst of other people.

Of course. the expectation isn't for the average person to be a billionaire or even a millionaire. It's just in order for there to be a "middle ground" in any scenario there needs to be a floor and a ceiling. I just like the idea of being able to see create their avenues of wealth )regardless of how moderate that wealth ends up being).

[brwrxstl]

He claimed to be in law enforcement and hasn't made any denials here. When he goes to the skatepark (and I know it's a skatepark, not a real spot), does he bring donuts? Perhaps.

You have no idea how weird it looks to be some random dude on slap who memorizes people's careers and then obsesses over them. Law enforcement has zero significance to this conversation, nor do your childish little donut jokes considering I'm vegan and that I eat pretty healthy. I said I had a background in law enforcement. You do realize that could mean anything from the municipal to the federal level? And that there's more to Law enforcement  than "cops"? Like are you 15 years old? Because that's the image you project.  It's really humiliating.  Believe it or not skateboarding is diverse and not everybody ends up being a burnout who holds elementary level stereotypes like you. I've been skateboarding for 20 years and I've apparently learned to take more away from it than you ever will.

[dooley]

Squirm harder, class traitor. Fuck off and go ruin another thread.