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Title: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 12, 2016, 09:02:20 AM
A couple mentions of Japanese bands in the "Bands You've Seen Recently" thread made me curious as to why bands from Japan don't have their own. I'm hoping someone posts something cool I haven't heard. NO BABYMETAL.

S.O.B. - Raging in Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6E79_1k1Z4#)
Corrupted - Gekkou No Daichi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MVvIywM8SU#)
Church of Misery - Shotgun Boogie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7eP-DFReyA#)
The boredoms live in new york (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjdbQkNMR6c#)
GAUZE - Equalizing Distort 12''(FULL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evvJs1Kkffo#)
THE STALIN - Stop Jap (1982) Full Album (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPP9kHBZF-o#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grind King Rims on May 12, 2016, 09:40:55 AM
well if you've heard of gauze and SOB you've probably heard of GISM, Bastard and D-Clone.

These are cool too. I only know of them because I also had a hardcore band called Golem.

 golem sadness  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjuBQ9XtIUo#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Paladin on May 12, 2016, 09:41:59 AM
Coffins.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: brycickle on May 12, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Peelander Z - live 9-19-2013 - Mad Tiger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxP94HL0rUs#)

Seriously one of the funnest bands to see live ever.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 12, 2016, 03:26:29 PM
well if you've heard of gauze and SOB you've probably heard of GISM, Bastard and D-Clone.

These are cool too. I only know of them because I also had a hardcore band called Golem.

 golem sadness  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjuBQ9XtIUo#)
Yup, and I've seen all but Gism live too. Not a huge D-Beat guy, but D-Clone fucking ruled (if they actually count). That Golem shit was pretty tight, but I can't find anything else by them. Apparently there's a Straight Edge "Powerviolence" band called Golem from Barcelona too. Either way, this thread is paying off.
Coffins.
Coffins rules. Honestly, I've always been more into Japanese Hardcore (I was getting into it in the early 2000s when Japan had shit loads of sick Hardcore. Total Fury, Jellyroll Rockheads, Exclaim, etc.) but I'm pretty lame in regards to Japanese Metal. Vomit Remnants, Church of Misery, Sigh, Coffins, not much else.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Glue Reed on May 12, 2016, 06:02:46 PM
looks like you got most of this covered but a few I haven't seen mentioned:

Lip Cream - 9 Shocks Terror LP (1987) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvLnSxc87_c#)

Confuse - Spending Loud Night (FULL EP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1ScyapfUw#)

Gai - Extermination EP (1984) (Bootleg verson) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJd7ZjZrHQo#)

L.S.D. - Destroy EP 1983 ( FULL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8D9KXwdylY#)

Disclose - D-Beat Raw Punk (FULL ALBUM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzAp8L8_3Zs#)

Kuro - Who The Helpless (Full EP 1984) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR5RaT1_gdU#)

Gas - No More Hiroshima (Full EP 1983) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsExMvvM_M#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 12, 2016, 09:02:29 PM
Good thread!

Crude - Stand and Fight Again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FpqB_jw8-Q&#)

forward - what' s the meaning of love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKWQ0P0L5Wg&#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grampa on May 13, 2016, 11:34:09 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkyxTr572zQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkyxTr572zQ#)

In my opinion, it's pretty hard to surpass D-BEAT RAW PUNK. It may as well be a cover album, but the intensity is out of control.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: French manicure on May 13, 2016, 02:02:54 PM
Bastard - No Hope In Here (FULL ALBUM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlY7pNCJSBY#)
BASTARD - Wind Of Pain [FULL ALBUM] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA-k7mqo1Ak#)

I know some of you guys brought them up already, but, Bastard was the first JP punk/hardcore(whatever you want to say) band I heard.  They blew my mind.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: chirs on May 13, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
great japanese blackened thrash

Sabbat - The Melody Of Death Mask (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLKWB5rofsg#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 14, 2016, 01:16:59 AM
While many jump on the Japanese crust/ HC bandwagon I think a lot of the time it is an overrated one (of course there ARE exceptions).
So that should be enough to start a 10 page discussion right? :P Devils advocate question - would you still cricle jerk the same 10 Japanese bands if they weren't Japanese?
Having said that, I do dig a lot of Japanese music. Some faves/ mainstayers: (well edit in some links when I'm bored at work)

Mind Of Asian - their second EP CRUSHES! Listen to the first track, if you're not hooked by the end of it then I think you need to just toss it in already
Mind Of Asian - Chinmoku No Kiri No Naka (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwCxECX9Ppg#)
Boris - c'mon this ones a given right?
Gallhammer - not the biggest black metal fan out there but they seem to be able to pull it off pretty well for 3 girls living in Tokyo (hypocritical of me to say so though I guess? I doubt I'd even give them a second chance if they were some random band out of Norway ???)
Melt Banana - did I even need to mention them?
ni-hao! - one of the best live bands I've ever seen. So much fun
ニーハオ! --- Look At That (Peach)-3.2.1.0!expros (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYXuGsHA68A#)
Turtle Island - perhaps my fav Japanese band ever. Hard to describe but basically Japanese tribal punk that mixes in some trad Japanese instruments too! Their first e.p. was recorded in a fucking forest. Punx is Hippies!!!
TURTLE ISLAND「この世讃歌」-Video Edit Version- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTFVnPM5QPo#)
Chopper also used them in his Heroin part too!!

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Anyone out there like Japanese hip-hop?
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on May 15, 2016, 06:20:02 AM
  Death Side.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 16, 2016, 09:08:16 AM
While many jump on the Japanese crust/ HC bandwagon I think a lot of the time it is an overrated one (of course there ARE exceptions).
So that should be enough to start a 10 page discussion right? :P Devils advocate question - would you still cricle jerk the same 10 Japanese bands if they weren't Japanese?
Having said that, I do dig a lot of Japanese music. Some faves/ mainstayers: (well edit in some links when I'm bored at work)

Mind Of Asian - their second EP CRUSHES! Listen to the first track, if you're not hooked by the end of it then I think you need to just toss it in already
Mind Of Asian - Chinmoku No Kiri No Naka (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwCxECX9Ppg#)
Boris - c'mon this ones a given right?
Gallhammer - not the biggest black metal fan out there but they seem to be able to pull it off pretty well for 3 girls living in Tokyo (hypocritical of me to say so though I guess? I doubt I'd even give them a second chance if they were some random band out of Norway ???)
Melt Banana - did I even need to mention them?
ni-hao! - one of the best live bands I've ever seen. So much fun
ニーハオ! --- Look At That (Peach)-3.2.1.0!expros (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYXuGsHA68A#)
Turtle Island - perhaps my fav Japanese band ever. Hard to describe but basically Japanese tribal punk that mixes in some trad Japanese instruments too! Their first e.p. was recorded in a fucking forest. Punx is Hippies!!!
TURTLE ISLAND「この世讃歌」-Video Edit Version- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTFVnPM5QPo#)
Chopper also used them in his Heroin part too!!

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Anyone out there like Japanese hip-hop?


I disagree, depends on which bands, I fucking hate Boris, and my old roommate was from Japan and was into a bit of Japanese Hip-Hop, some was actually pretty good, some was hilarious.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 16, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
I disagree, depends on which bands, I fucking hate Boris, and my old roommate was from Japan and was into a bit of Japanese Hip-Hop, some was actually pretty good, some was hilarious.

I guess we'll never know but I still think it (being from Japan) gives bands + 5 cool points which is actually stupid when you think about it.
You hate Boris? Well I'm guessing you're in the minority there but hey, I hate Crow and tonnes of other crust/ HxC bands that so many seem to worship. I mean (and this is despite my username; actually my username is kind of a joke, a joke I wish I could change now) I don't even think G.I.S.M are *that* good

*collective gasp* right?

That's like the equivalent of saying you don't like Gino's style on SLAP right? Opinions are like arseholes and all that jazz though...

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Japanese hip hop, like pretty much every other genre of music out there, is very hit or miss. I really dug Dragon Ash back in the day because they were basically like the beastie boys of Japan and then I got turned on to some more underground stuff like the blue herb etc.
It's a great language for hip hop though with lots of room to play with words/ meanings (I guess this is true with with most languages though). Groups like schadaraparr (スチャダラパー) are masters of this
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 17, 2016, 05:17:14 AM
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I disagree, depends on which bands, I fucking hate Boris, and my old roommate was from Japan and was into a bit of Japanese Hip-Hop, some was actually pretty good, some was hilarious.
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I guess we'll never know but I still think it (being from Japan) gives bands + 5 cool points which is actually stupid when you think about it.
You hate Boris? Well I'm guessing you're in the minority there but hey, I hate Crow and tonnes of other crust/ HxC bands that so many seem to worship. I mean (and this is despite my username; actually my username is kind of a joke, a joke I wish I could change now) I don't even think G.I.S.M are *that* good

*collective gasp* right?

That's like the equivalent of saying you don't like Gino's style on SLAP right? Opinions are like arseholes and all that jazz though...

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Japanese hip hop, like pretty much every other genre of music out there, is very hit or miss. I really dug Dragon Ash back in the day because they were basically like the beastie boys of Japan and then I got turned on to some more underground stuff like the blue herb etc.
It's a great language for hip hop though with lots of room to play with words/ meanings (I guess this is true with with most languages though). Groups like schadaraparr (スチャダラパー) are masters of this
I agree with you there.
I think it's just that people like shit from other countries, Japan just so happens to have a lot of output that for some reason is pretty accessible to people in the U.S. compared to other countries (maybe due to those +5 cool points you mentioned?). Italian, Brazilian, and Swedish Hardcore were always huge where I was from, too.
But yeah, with Boris I tried out a couple of their albums with Merzbow (who i am a huge fan of) and was left pretty underwhelmed. Gave them a second chance when that pink album came out and genuinely disliked it. They ushered in the era of Pitchfork Metal.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grind King Rims on May 17, 2016, 02:52:42 PM
I have to agree that GISM are definitely overhyped, there's a lot better Japanese hardcore bands. The flamethrowers and chainsaws at the live shows helped, and there's a million stories tied to their Yakuza connections, ie burning down record stores carrying gism bootlegs, something about stabbing on a subway train...They're definitely good, but they're not the end-all-be-all.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Glue Reed on May 17, 2016, 03:39:58 PM
I have to agree that GISM are definitely overhyped, there's a lot better Japanese hardcore bands. The flamethrowers and chainsaws at the live shows helped, and there's a million stories tied to their Yakuza connections, ie burning down record stores carrying gism bootlegs, something about stabbing on a subway train...They're definitely good, but they're not the end-all-be-all.

I agree about GISM as well. I actually enjoy their second more metal album much more than the hardcore stuff.  They're more of a folklore band with Sakevi and whatnot.  Gauze are light years better, as are S.O.B. and Lipcream.

The thing I've noticed with Japanese bands is they have a tendency to "perform" live, if that makes sense.  They don't just show up and tune their instruments between every song, basically practicing in front of your face.  They overdo it with the energy levels which can make some of the craziest, most exciting shows I've ever seen. 

I remember seeing the King Brothers a long time ago... they're a decent enough garage band but the live show was through the roof.  I don't think I've ever seen anybody bring that level of energy and fun before.  Most of the Japanese garage/punk bands I've seen live have been equally as amazing.

Italian hardcore is still where it's at, though.





Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grind King Rims on May 17, 2016, 05:25:35 PM
The thing I've noticed with Japanese bands is they have a tendency to "perform" live, if that makes sense.  They don't just show up and tune their instruments between every song, basically practicing in front of your face.  They overdo it with the energy levels which can make some of the craziest, most exciting shows I've ever seen. 

Electric Eel Shock put on a really good show. I don't care for their music at all, at all, but they played the venue I work at last year and people lost their minds. Everyone was walking around in their merch that night, and that never happens here.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 17, 2016, 05:59:44 PM
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I have to agree that GISM are definitely overhyped, there's a lot better Japanese hardcore bands. The flamethrowers and chainsaws at the live shows helped, and there's a million stories tied to their Yakuza connections, ie burning down record stores carrying gism bootlegs, something about stabbing on a subway train...They're definitely good, but they're not the end-all-be-all.
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I agree about GISM as well. I actually enjoy their second more metal album much more than the hardcore stuff.  They're more of a folklore band with Sakevi and whatnot.  Gauze are light years better, as are S.O.B. and Lipcream.

The thing I've noticed with Japanese bands is they have a tendency to "perform" live, if that makes sense.  They don't just show up and tune their instruments between every song, basically practicing in front of your face.  They overdo it with the energy levels which can make some of the craziest, most exciting shows I've ever seen. 

I remember seeing the King Brothers a long time ago... they're a decent enough garage band but the live show was through the roof.  I don't think I've ever seen anybody bring that level of energy and fun before.  Most of the Japanese garage/punk bands I've seen live have been equally as amazing.

Italian hardcore is still where it's at, though.

Yes, and yes.




Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 17, 2016, 07:30:54 PM
I have to agree that GISM are definitely overhyped, there's a lot better Japanese hardcore bands. The flamethrowers and chainsaws at the live shows helped, and there's a million stories tied to their Yakuza connections, ie burning down record stores carrying gism bootlegs, something about stabbing on a subway train...They're definitely good, but they're not the end-all-be-all.

Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't circle jerk G.I.S.M as the be all/ end all of Japanese hardcore/ punk/ metal/ thrash et. al.
Honestly, I'd like to see a mythbusters episode on Sakevi as a lot of his antics are completely blown out of proportion (i.e. it wasn't an actual flame thrower ffs). Sure he was doing some fucked up shit at the time but most of the stories you hear are 3rd hand lost-in-translation hand me downs.
I haven't heard the yakuza stories (feel free to add them to this thread though because I love how out of hand this shit can get) but it has been confirmed that the guy from Battle of Disarm did have some pretty heavy connections back in the day which is kinda strange for a group of crusty peace-punx. Anyway, the folklore thing sort of adds to the bands appeal but that's exactly what it is: a bunch of un-confirmed rumors.

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Good point about bands giving it their all when they perform over here. Definitely give 150% even on a bad day.
I'll give you all a good gauze story when I've got a few spare minutes at work k?
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 17, 2016, 08:32:14 PM
Devils advocate question - would you still cricle jerk the same 10 Japanese bands if they weren't Japanese?

There's a distinct tinge to Japanese hardcore that you can identify. It's not just an addendum that you heard this band was from Japan, and thus, more interesting. Though really, isn't that an interesting enough tidbit to get you curious as to what somebody on the other side of the world into the same music as you is doing?

To answer your question, I'd argue that there are American bands who have identified the style enough that they try to start their own "Japanese" hardcore bands, who I like. World Burns to Death, for instance. So yes, I'd say so.

World Burns To Death - Totalitarian Sodomy (Full Album) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBhYmHnUYHo#)

Regarding GISM, my timeline may be off here, but in addition to folklore, they were among the first to do what these bands were doing, no? You might not dig Discharge today, but it's foolish to discount what they've done for a lot of bands you like. Same for GISM. And try not to get stoked off of Sakevi's voice and the guitar shreddage in their recent reunion show:

G.I.S.M. live @ Roadburn festival 2016 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foxcr1zOSmI#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Jive Turkey on May 17, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
Went and saw Atmosfear a bunch of times back in the day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHxb-nZYJW0
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 17, 2016, 10:06:40 PM
There's a distinct tinge to Japanese hardcore that you can identify. It's not just an addendum that you heard this band was from Japan, and thus, more interesting. Though really, isn't that an interesting enough tidbit to get you curious as to what somebody on the other side of the world into the same music as you is doing?

To answer your question, I'd argue that there are American bands who have identified the style enough that they try to start their own "Japanese" hardcore bands, who I like. World Burns to Death, for instance. So yes, I'd say so.

Regarding GISM, my timeline may be off here, but in addition to folklore, they were among the first to do what these bands were doing, no? You might not dig Discharge today, but it's foolish to discount what they've done for a lot of bands you like. Same for GISM. And try not to get stoked off of Sakevi's voice and the guitar shreddage in their recent reunion show:

Look don't get me wrong, and remember I was playing devil's advocate, Japanese HC certainly has it's place and its own sound. I just can't stand weaboo-like HC/ punk fans who circle jerk EVERYTHING that comes out of Japan. And yes, there are bands that clone jap hc o/s too because they identified with that certain style (we have quite a few in Aus too), I have no problem with that. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to say "I think a certain 3rd generation dis-/d-beat clone is a boring band" without 100 Burning Spirits warriors coming to attack you like it's Ninja Gaiden.

GISM had their place and they certainly influenced literally 1000s of bands, make no mistake. Maybe their overall "appeal" is lost on me because I didn't own detestation in 1984 I don't know... maybe it's because I identified more with crass' version of punk as opposed to some mythical creature in Japan screaming in broken English about "syphlitic vaginas" :D Again, I don't hate them per se, I just wanted to chuck some thoughts out there because punk purists would have a field day if I mentioned this on a music related forum.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: mattchew on May 18, 2016, 11:13:35 AM
No mention of Paintbox?
For shame. "Trip, Trance, and Traveling" is insane.

Disclose, Framtid, Death Side, Lipcream, LSD are all fucking essential, but already mentioned.
Disclose is maybe better than Discharge, meaning they're one of the best bands ever.
I could really do without GISM or Gauze. Too metallic for my tastes.

Not mentioned and underappreciated is Last Bomb:

Last Bomb - S/T (Full) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHwK4OkKG4#)

Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: mattchew on May 18, 2016, 11:16:39 AM
Oh, The Comes also, duh.

The Comes - No Side (FULL ALBUM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCnWDpbhBeg#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Glue Reed on May 18, 2016, 04:21:50 PM
some others that came to mind...

ZOUO EP The Final Agony 憎悪 CHERRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BMh4uR-wGc#)
(an old band I was in covered Make Love to the Devil)

Execute - Execute (EP 1983) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16JxKB9DsMo#)

The Clay - The Middle East Combat Area (FULL EP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhB5zqicMKE#)

OUTO - I Like Cola (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fseEwEUUGvc#)

Tom and Boot Boys - Stay Punk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mFIFT2hmss#)

Tranquilizer - Tranquilizer History 85-87(FULL EP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQndJng4YM#)
(their first 7" is mayhem, but all i can find is this full cd retrospective.  as you can tell I like the noisy stuff)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 18, 2016, 07:12:34 PM
some others that came to mind...

ZOUO EP The Final Agony 憎悪 CHERRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BMh4uR-wGc#)
(an old band I was in covered Make Love to the Devil)

Execute - Execute (EP 1983) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16JxKB9DsMo#)

The Clay - The Middle East Combat Area (FULL EP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhB5zqicMKE#)

OUTO - I Like Cola (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fseEwEUUGvc#)

Tom and Boot Boys - Stay Punk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mFIFT2hmss#)

Tranquilizer - Tranquilizer History 85-87(FULL EP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQndJng4YM#)
(their first 7" is mayhem, but all i can find is this full cd retrospective.  as you can tell I like the noisy stuff)
A friend of mine bought an original press of that Zouo "7 for a seriously ridiculous amount (somewhere in the 3 to 4 hundred range if I'm not mistaken). Cool record, but I'm content with my shitty, $10 boot.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Cthulhu! on May 18, 2016, 07:34:30 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5kyLpwVyCY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5kyLpwVyCY#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 18, 2016, 07:49:38 PM
Cool record, but I'm content with my shitty, $10 boot.

Yeah, that's my other beef - the prices that some of this shit goes for ::)
I had the R.U.G Deadly Fighter 7" way back when (just because everyone was worshiping it at the time and I happened to pick a reasonably cheap copy of it) and the bidding wars when I sold it were crazy!!!

Anyone out there heard this? https://www.discogs.com/ja/SS-The-Original/release/1678708 (https://www.discogs.com/ja/SS-The-Original/release/1678708)
I owned it back in the day too. Pretty crazy considering it's dated as 77'
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 18, 2016, 08:17:27 PM
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Cool record, but I'm content with my shitty, $10 boot.
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Yeah, that's my other beef - the prices that some of this shit goes for ::)
I had the R.U.G Deadly Fighter 7" way back when (just because everyone was worshiping it at the time and I happened to pick a reasonably cheap copy of it) and the bidding wars when I sold it were crazy!!!

Anyone out there heard this? https://www.discogs.com/ja/SS-The-Original/release/1678708 (https://www.discogs.com/ja/SS-The-Original/release/1678708)
I owned it back in the day too. Pretty crazy considering it's dated as 77'
You could get some cash for that one. I heard them on one of the Killed By Death or Bloodstains comps I'm pretty sure. I used to buy those things religiously. I'm happy there's been some cool shit posted in here I haven't heard before.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Glue Reed on May 19, 2016, 08:33:59 AM
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Cool record, but I'm content with my shitty, $10 boot.
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Yeah, that's my other beef - the prices that some of this shit goes for ::)
I had the R.U.G Deadly Fighter 7" way back when (just because everyone was worshiping it at the time and I happened to pick a reasonably cheap copy of it) and the bidding wars when I sold it were crazy!!!

Anyone out there heard this? https://www.discogs.com/ja/SS-The-Original/release/1678708 (https://www.discogs.com/ja/SS-The-Original/release/1678708)
I owned it back in the day too. Pretty crazy considering it's dated as 77'

That SS record is the shit.  It's generally considered the first hardcore record ever, came out before the Middle Class 'Out of Vogue' 7" that was generally considered the first.

The SS - "Mr Twist" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpkdahKlVwo#)

SS - Coca Cola (1978 Japan Raw Hardcore Punk / Noise Punk ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj11FVoJUh0#)

another great one I thought of... Systematic Death's "Systema" 7" flexi.  Japanese hardcore bands loved their flexi's...  definitely added a layer of scuzz.

Systematic Death - Systematic Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HQDV8DZ0PQ#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 19, 2016, 07:14:31 PM
That SS record is the shit.  It's generally considered the first hardcore record ever, came out before the Middle Class 'Out of Vogue' 7" that was generally considered the first.

Kinda regret selling it now*...
Crazy how it predates almost everything huh? Like who the fuck were their influences and where they fuck did they get them from? They were from Kyoto is I'm not mistaken?


*I actually sold it as part of a package to a guy I know in Sydney. He got a crazy deal at the time but I was moving back to Japan and couldn't afford to put all the records in storage. Here's a sneak peak of what was in there:

- Desparate Children: Chaos Fuck Day I Love Punk Flexi. Rare Japanese punk from 86
- Gastunk: To Fans 7� White Splatter Vinyl. Only Given out at a live show way back when
- Ghoul: OI OI 1 sided Flexi. Super Rare Japanese OI  
- R.U.G.: Deathly Fighter 7�
- The Original SS: Live at Kid Airac Hall 1979 (think it was the reissue though...still it was limited to 900)
- V/A: Animal Rights Comp (Japan) LP. With Battle of Disarm, Age, Power of Idea etc.
- V/A: Women�s Liberation Japan, Bootleg Double LP version of the Japanese CD (553/1000)w/ GAIA, Wormcast, GUSH, PISS
- SKV: The War. Sakevi�s solo album released just after the terrorist attacks in 2001
- also got some early 90's crust demos as well as Japanese antiwar (815) punk/ crust comps that are (super) limited edition tape only releases
(the 815 antiwar thing was probably the craziest thing in there actually. It was such a huge package full of tapes/ booklets etc. I can't even find any info on it anymore)
I also chucked in a confuse LP and 7", boycott/ argue damnation split, japanese hardcore omnibus 8"(on 6 weeks records), hammer demo 7", bathtub shitter 7", a few more demo tapes when I delivered it to him. LOL, I probably should have sat on them for another 20 or so years but as I mentioned before I kinda hate the whole pay $500 for some rare/ random 7" mind set...
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on May 20, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
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That SS record is the shit.  It's generally considered the first hardcore record ever, came out before the Middle Class 'Out of Vogue' 7" that was generally considered the first.
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Kinda regret selling it now*...
Crazy how it predates almost everything huh? Like who the fuck were their influences and where they fuck did they get them from? They were from Kyoto is I'm not mistaken?


*I actually sold it as part of a package to a guy I know in Sydney. He got a crazy deal at the time but I was moving back to Japan and couldn't afford to put all the records in storage. Here's a sneak peak of what was in there:

- Desparate Children: Chaos Fuck Day I Love Punk Flexi. Rare Japanese punk from 86
- Gastunk: To Fans 7� White Splatter Vinyl. Only Given out at a live show way back when
- Ghoul: OI OI 1 sided Flexi. Super Rare Japanese OI  
- R.U.G.: Deathly Fighter 7�
- The Original SS: Live at Kid Airac Hall 1979 (think it was the reissue though...still it was limited to 900)
- V/A: Animal Rights Comp (Japan) LP. With Battle of Disarm, Age, Power of Idea etc.
- V/A: Women�s Liberation Japan, Bootleg Double LP version of the Japanese CD (553/1000)w/ GAIA, Wormcast, GUSH, PISS
- SKV: The War. Sakevi�s solo album released just after the terrorist attacks in 2001
- also got some early 90's crust demos as well as Japanese antiwar (815) punk/ crust comps that are (super) limited edition tape only releases
(the 815 antiwar thing was probably the craziest thing in there actually. It was such a huge package full of tapes/ booklets etc. I can't even find any info on it anymore)
I also chucked in a confuse LP and 7", boycott/ argue damnation split, japanese hardcore omnibus 8"(on 6 weeks records), hammer demo 7", bathtub shitter 7", a few more demo tapes when I delivered it to him. LOL, I probably should have sat on them for another 20 or so years but as I mentioned before I kinda hate the whole pay $500 for some rare/ random 7" mind set...
Pretty ridiculous to me too, though in my younger, more financially free years, I admit that I bought a couple pricey ones but that's a whole other thread.
Pretty sure that Omnibus record is the only "8 I own.
Also, is that the Animal Rights comp with the "we want to draw the comparison to Conflict's "To a Nation of Animal Lovers" cover" with the kitty with demon eyes behind a fence? Our shop used to have a copy of that for way too much that I don't think ever sold.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Lasernaut on May 27, 2016, 07:29:11 AM
Sup guys. I made a lot of money off a shitty job 7-8 years ago, so I bought a lot of records. Here are some Japanese ones, all original. I got most of this when the dollar was really low. I traded a 7" EP I paid like 5 dollars for for GISM's debut LP.
If you give a shit, then please excuse the terrible photo.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/OleSP/20160527_141046393_iOS_zpseiyroftk.jpg) (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/OleSP/media/20160527_141046393_iOS_zpseiyroftk.jpg.html)

(Italian hardcore is dope too, as someone said. Nerorgasmo, Negazione, CCM, Raw Power...)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Huell Howser on June 07, 2016, 09:05:44 AM
Oh, The Comes also, duh.

The Comes - No Side (FULL ALBUM) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCnWDpbhBeg#)

fuck i feel like i've seen this LP around records stores my my whole life. gonna check it out

Japanese bands hc/sludge/punk bands i get into are Corrupted(probably my second favorite sludge ever, stupidly heavy), S.O.B., and fuck on the beach. Gauze has never really done it for me - I did hear recently on Damien from Fucked Up's podcast that the members of Gauze barely know each other and only strictly get together to make music which is crazy/weird/sounds a bit pretentious. I don't know or care enough about the band to confirm it though haha
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: headtowall on June 07, 2016, 11:50:13 AM
2 pages and no mention of Envy. Legit one of the best most epic insane live bands, an amazing discography

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtY3pMP8pzE&list=RDwq4EBbzNiKo&index=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtY3pMP8pzE&list=RDwq4EBbzNiKo&index=2#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Huell Howser on June 07, 2016, 03:40:04 PM
damn totally forgot about Envy. I saw them a few years ago, was gr8
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: IcanthelpitImfromMilwaukee on June 07, 2016, 05:02:13 PM
2 pages and no mention of Envy. Legit one of the best most epic insane live bands, an amazing discography

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtY3pMP8pzE&list=RDwq4EBbzNiKo&index=2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtY3pMP8pzE&list=RDwq4EBbzNiKo&index=2#)
Saw them at a crusty co-op in Madison while they were touring on "Insomniac Doze." Incredible show.
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Glue Reed on June 08, 2016, 03:47:56 PM
Sup guys. I made a lot of money off a shitty job 7-8 years ago, so I bought a lot of records. Here are some Japanese ones, all original. I got most of this when the dollar was really low. I traded a 7" EP I paid like 5 dollars for for GISM's debut LP.
If you give a shit, then please excuse the terrible photo.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/OleSP/20160527_141046393_iOS_zpseiyroftk.jpg) (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/OleSP/media/20160527_141046393_iOS_zpseiyroftk.jpg.html)

(Italian hardcore is dope too, as someone said. Nerorgasmo, Negazione, CCM, Raw Power...)


holy fucking drool.

some amazing shit in there... that Coma 7" is fucking awesome, goth/death rock/punk at it's best.

couple others that burn:

The Sexual - The Last Days (EP 1985) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY4tZdfnml0#)

RoseRose - Skatehead '88 EP (1986) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Rr6xRhdrc#)

not exactly hardcore or metal, but complete mayhem:
The Swankys - The Very Best Of Hero (LP 1985) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTSkw9sU928#)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: FrenchFriedClownFingers on June 08, 2016, 04:53:46 PM
infernal revulsion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwin4OCmBTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwin4OCmBTY)

wormrot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Pt3TojQ6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Pt3TojQ6g)

blunt force trauma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nSMaEVKIPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nSMaEVKIPM)

medic vomiting pus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEOTY6JT1NQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEOTY6JT1NQ)
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Huell Howser on June 09, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
wormrot ain't japanese
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grind King Rims on July 08, 2020, 10:49:21 AM
Posting for later
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Dante Bichette on July 08, 2020, 11:06:15 AM
https://youtu.be/fkWfFXnLpYg
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grind King Rims on July 08, 2020, 11:45:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2nAjE14-HE
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: cucktard on July 08, 2020, 04:39:43 PM
A few of my favorites

The Blue Hearts https://youtu.be/GcvYz1xK7WI

The Timers (in Japanese, ‘timer’ sounds like ‘taima’, or weed  They we’re pretty unapologetically political, which is rare.
This is where they totally talked shit on a live broadcast
https://youtu.be/4AlYVqbyWwU

Anadorei, or ‘hole slave’ , a band by a S&M Dom, Eriaza Royal

https://youtu.be/wWTjlnB50ok

My friend Kaori’s band, another great political punk band, The Happening

https://youtu.be/rathpacv7iM

Another political band, Piledriver

https://youtu.be/WCxKgBON58k




 
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: straight fucking edge on July 09, 2020, 04:35:49 AM
easily my favorite band from japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEIXfYv75WA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tORDiudB80
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 10, 2020, 07:20:19 AM
Delete that wormrot plz


https://youtu.be/nvDEs37-Jhs
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: CrappyChan on October 26, 2021, 10:12:22 PM
The Swankys. How has no one mentioned them?
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 27, 2021, 06:11:58 PM
The Swankys. How has no one mentioned them?
someone posted a link up there 👆🏻
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When people think of Japanese punk, they think blistering hardcore, but cigarette man are actually my fav Japanese band by a long shot:

https://youtu.be/acXZgw7YP7k

https://youtu.be/8aq8zbPmzNc
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Skateboard Shuffle on October 27, 2021, 07:13:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XqMpv3hQDE&t=20s
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: skate_or_dingus on October 27, 2021, 09:22:52 PM
Japanese noise duh:

https://youtu.be/ylyPZ8k477Q
https://youtu.be/taOVp6KxNto
https://youtu.be/Gw76FgY9yIU
https://youtu.be/43P2Ux2Qios
https://youtu.be/xqCogNfj0mU
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: skate_or_dingus on October 27, 2021, 09:31:49 PM
Other goods:

https://youtu.be/zmWx46dmvwY
https://youtu.be/BYteF-C4S_o
https://youtu.be/cOtHU3zPtmA
https://youtu.be/Bj1xXS73MUM
https://youtu.be/GQgRqw_52Sk
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: cucktard on October 28, 2021, 12:24:19 AM
This is pretty representative of a Seppuku Pistols gig.

https://youtu.be/imF-O245I9c

Theyll sometimes cover I wanna be your dog and Too drunk to fuck
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Phantasma Del Mar on October 28, 2021, 10:46:14 AM
This thread is awesome! Saw this band Thug Murder open for the Dropkick Murphys in 2001, they were great https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvkz5mTmwo
I was into a lot of J ska back then like Kemuri, Potshot, and Nicotine too
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on October 28, 2021, 05:11:50 PM
This thread is awesome! Saw this band Thug Murder open for the Dropkick Murphys in 2001, they were great https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvkz5mTmwo
I was into a lot of J ska back then like Kemuri, Potshot, and Nicotine too
while that Thug Murder album didnt age too well, I rocked the shit out of it in 2001!!!

@cucktard the band you posted sounds like they should do a split album with turtle island
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: cucktard on October 28, 2021, 11:09:21 PM
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This thread is awesome! Saw this band Thug Murder open for the Dropkick Murphys in 2001, they were great https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvkz5mTmwo
I was into a lot of J ska back then like Kemuri, Potshot, and Nicotine too
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while that Thug Murder album didnt age too well, I rocked the shit out of it in 2001!!!

@cucktard the band you posted sounds like they should do a split album with turtle island

They play together all the time. Especially at Hashi no Shita.
Which is understandable style-wise. But some of the Seppuku guys give out kinda uyoku (right wing) vibes.
Only some tho, Ive hung a bit with some of the members and get along well enough
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: Grind King Rims on October 29, 2021, 02:27:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsExMvvM_M
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: disclosed on October 31, 2021, 11:50:16 AM
anyone in this thread mention Milk yet?
i saw them in Tsuyama 2 years ago, had never heard of them before that. insane lineup in general, they played with Skizophrenia, Last, Deserve To Die, Sanoa, End Of Pollution and Disturd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5r7-BZoAX4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsExMvvM_M
i like Gas more with Narumi on vocals. i love the band overall but the Sweet Emotion EP is just soo good. while worlds apart from the bands early output.

Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: HeavyAndExpensive on October 31, 2021, 12:08:16 PM
Just browsed through this thread, nothing to add other than The Boredoms are terrible. I remember when those albums were released thinking man this shit is terrible and forgot about them because they were so terrible. This threaded reminded me how terrible they are
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: skate_or_dingus on October 31, 2021, 07:56:07 PM
Just browsed through this thread, nothing to add other than The Boredoms are terrible. I remember when those albums were released thinking man this shit is terrible and forgot about them because they were so terrible. This threaded reminded me how terrible they are

 "I have shit taste in music and won't shut the hell up about it."
 
Title: Re: Japanese Metal/Hardcore/Other
Post by: cky enthusiast on November 02, 2021, 07:30:26 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4g3D6CD9M