okay i got it,
so i recently been on a truck swap and test run, and i disregard what i felt about venture lo.
theyre good trucks. nice low and control but that pushed out hangar design or the geometry with the cylinder bushings makes the turn response slow so tight and deep turns are somewhat a hassle but nothing too major if you dont mind tic tac ing a little. the ventures lo height and tight stable turn style make them good for control on tricks, my kickflips were very popped, controlled and caught and all my other tricks felt very on point with pop and all
now i definitely can tell you, mini logos are ventures but with a quicker deeper turn, you get the nice pop and control like ventures but you also get a thunder/a bit faster indy deep turn. so ventures that turn quicker and deeper=mini logo trucks