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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Genericwhitemale on February 13, 2021, 06:33:20 AM
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Which one do you think was better?
The impact of skate videos are dead. But my pick is Uncrossed. Baker 4 had too much "Supreme" filming and completely miss the spot.
Both soundtracks were trash because good music will be censored on Youtube. Baker 4 was terrible. Uncrossed was tolerable.
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I think Uncrossed was more hammer heavy, but I actually liked Baker 4.
I like the chill approach they took with it, and I actually liked a lot of the music in it.
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I like both videos but it’s a hard choice, I really like spanky and sammy’s part in B4 but DW was a bit of an easier watch for me. I think I’d pick uncrossed, Taylor and Pedro killed it
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i liked the feeling of baker 4 more overall. baca has the best part of either video. i’m going baker
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Except the editing which saved chunks of it, Baker 4 largely felt like a lifestyle brand's fall/winter 2019 catalogue. Strange to think Tyson and Dustin had some of my favorite parts. Baca delivering a full part that heavy was unexpected. Really thought he would just have a few tricks along with nuge (who did just that).
Deathwish did itself some favors by losing the 2008 I steal from hot topic/smoke behind the mall/ can I get a cigarette?-vibe in the past half decade and put in a focused effort.
Great video, even without the company's founders, Ellington/Greco. Which was Something 917's second full length needed, and Baker 4 couldn't cut it without
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I loved baker 4. I guess it’s just me but 100% I’d say baker 4.
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I have to go Uncrossed, because it was such a surprise to me. I don't normally gravitate to the stair counting types of skaters, but there was a genuine vibe that felt light hearted at times, despite the gnarliness unraveling.
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Uncrossed hands down. Deathwish team is also more like able to me than baker. I just ignore neen.
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Are Bam or TK in any of these? If not, pass
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Baker 4 without a doubt. Kirby and pedro had the only good parts in uncrossed.
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Uncrossed hands down. Deathwish team is also more like able to me than baker. I just ignore neen.
what's the issue with neen? i liked his part
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Uncrossed hands down. Deathwish team is also more like able to me than baker. I just ignore neen.
what's the issue with neen? i liked his part
I didn’t mind his part in uncrossed. I meant just in general he’s my only gripe about the deathwish team. Just not a fan. But his part in uncrossed was okay from what I remember. I should prob rewatch and pay more attention to his part.
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Did a process of elimination thing in my head and at the end it was pretty much Baca’s part vs Pedro, Kirby, and Foy’s parts for me. Baca is one of my favorites and his part took out a lot of the other parts in Uncrossed but even his part was not enough to take down the heaviness of Kirby, Foy and Pedro’s parts. So Uncrossed wins.
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Baker 4 is like that drunk dude from your early 20s that was always at the DIY spots but disappeared one day. You see him again years later at the skatepark. He got his shit together, finished culinary school, is now married to some Italian chick, they have a daughter. Not as hilarious as he used to be but loves to reference his days as a pile. Still handsome but has a full head of grey hair, like nigga aren’t you only 34?
Uncrossed is the dude who went to Cali years ago for college and you see him around town during the holidays. Still a sick skater but every time you hang with him he is increasingly smug. You have to call him out for regurgitating a talking point Neal Brennan said on his podcast every once in a while so it gets awkward. His saving grace is that he now has great taste in movies.
So yeah I guess Baker 4.
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I just watched uncrossed and definitely better than Baker 4. It just made me feel good and hyped to skate while Baker 4 kinda bummed me out a little. Dollin was the only thing I enjoyed on that one.
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Uncrossed.
I actually liked Baker 4, but when a video gets hyped up, especially the way Baker 4 was for almost 15 years, it’s impossible for it to live up to expectations, and I see why a lot of people were a little disappointed.
Uncrossed kind of came together quickly, and I mean that in a good way. Enough time to get people intrigued, but not too much time to get people speculating so much that they create an idea in their head what the video will be before it’s even released, and then disappointed that it’s not just how they envisioned (again that was the problem with Baker 4 IMO). I think it’s a perfect length, perfect amount of individual parts, good music, and great skating throughout. Can’t speak for others, but in my opinion Uncrossed is the exact type of skating and video I like. It was right up my alley.
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It sucks everyone forgets about Jake Hayes when talking about uncrossed. Dude ollied over a dumpster on flat. He had third best part behind Kirby and Pedro
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Uncrossed and it's not close.
Baker 4 just didn't land for me as a cohesive project. Seemed overstuffed and didn't flow through. The session at that one spot was an interesting idea but just seemed like fluff to fill in gaps.
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Uncrossed and it's not close.
Yep. I've watched it a bunch of times. Just a great video start to finish with better filming, editing, and some of the gnarliest shit ever done. Kirby and Pedro's part were next level but Foy's part was also insane. So many hammers! Plus the length is perfect and has way more rewatch value.
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Baker 4 for me. I like the music and the skating more. I don't really care about hammers anymore and could just watch spanky and Reynolds skate flat. Definitely think uncrossed is more effective at what it's trying to do. Just not what I'm into.
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there was great songs in both
Daniel Johnston, rolling Stones, Frank Zappa, Ramones to name a few.
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Baker 4 - The music, and everything with the old heads was fantastic, Dollin, Spanky, Baca etc. It does feel like 2 teams crammed into 1 video though. Maybe it's me getting older but aside from T-Funk's raw speed none of the new riders felt like Baker to me. Which is probably why it feels 20 minutes too long. The extra 20 minutes uncrossed could have used...
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Did a process of elimination thing in my head and at the end it was pretty much Baca’s part vs Pedro, Kirby, and Foy’s parts for me. Baca is one of my favorites and his part took out a lot of the other parts in Uncrossed but even his part was not enough to take down the heaviness of Kirby, Foy and Pedro’s parts. So Uncrossed wins.
Dawg you just gonna ignore Spanky's part? That was a godsend if you ask me.
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I liked them both very much, dont know if i could choose.
Dont know about trash soundtracks though, i thought both videos had the best soundtracks in a long time.
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Baker 4 easily
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I thought both were better than i expected... but i think baker 4 goes over the line for me
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Baker 4 was the celebration of the old dudes & an ushering in of new blood. Baca’s part will be talked about for a long time & there’s lots of charming moments but the video feels disjointed, compartmentalized, & some of the passing of the torch shit look mad forced.
Uncrossed is like watching a group of friends cheat death together & I am along for the whole half hour ride. It makes me want to skate where Baker 4 feels like watching a pretty good movie. Baker 4’s high points will have more longevity but Uncrossed is exactly what a skate video should be.
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Uncrossed easily
Kirby and Delfino were revelations
The only thing I remember about B4 is Baca
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Uncrossed was a better video but Baker 4 had better parts.
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baca 4
free max b
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Baker 4 had baca skating to bone thugs.
That’s a win every time bud
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Baker 4 played through more like an album and just felt 'nicer' to me. Uncrossed had heavier skating though.
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Baker 4 no question
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Uncrossed felt like a 30 minute promo dvd you got in an issue of thrasher that was surprisingly awesome and got you psyched on the team.
Baker 4 was like a homie video of all your buddies you grew up with. The skating wasn't the best, but you were psyched to see them still ripping while trying to hold down a job and kids.
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I love how people say the soundtrack to baker 4 was trash when Rowan literally skated to Minnie Ripperton's Les Fleurs. That's some legend shit. What are people expecting? Mumble trap?
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both are good. definitely wish baker/deathwish hadn’t separated their brands so much. baker 4 was a better video for sentimental reasons. i’d probably care more about deathwish if they had remained more like girl/chocolate.
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I love how people say the soundtrack to baker 4 was trash when Rowan literally skated to Minnie Ripperton's Les Fleurs. That's some legend shit. What are people expecting? Mumble trap?
Even figgys song worked, shit was flowin
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I love how people say the soundtrack to baker 4 was trash when Rowan literally skated to Minnie Ripperton's Les Fleurs. That's some legend shit. What are people expecting? Mumble trap?
Even figgys song worked, shit was flowin
This. I don't even like watching figgy usually but that song made it the first rewatchable figgy part for me.
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
With this logic, the Storm was better than Mouse because they skated more rails and jumped over djs and shit. And I'm not saying baker 4 is mouse but your metric for a "good video" abides by that.
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Baker 4 was too LOOOOOOOOONG. It's disappointing cause it could have been so much better if they had edited it down. So Uncrossed then.
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uncrossed. foy, hayes, kirby did some pretty amazing skating
can't even remember anything in baker 4 other than hermans part was way too short
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lol, neither. ill stick with baker bootleg, baker2g, and baker 3. baker has a deathwish was pretty good except for shane heyl, he gets the vert button every time.
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
Yes
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Which one do you think was better?
The impact of skate videos are dead. But my pick is Uncrossed. Baker 4 had too much "Supreme" filming and completely miss the spot.
Both soundtracks were trash because good music will be censored on Youtube. Baker 4 was terrible. Uncrossed was tolerable.
Untrue b4 was posted to thrasher where they don’t have to pay for music rights on that site that’s the reason they randomly release the parts on thrasher yt that’s them probably just getting the rights so all that music in b4 would have been on purpose death wish video probably fell to that hurdle tho honestly don’t understand why brands don’t just demonitise the videos on YouTube in the first place and release them on their on page and they’d be able to use whatever music they wanted n not have to pay anything you get around £1000-£2000 per million views anyway so it’s not really even worth paying for them
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
Hey, I'm one of those old dudes you're describing but I prefer Uncrossed. I think it flows better, is a good length, and has better filming and incredible skating.
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I love how people say the soundtrack to baker 4 was trash when Rowan literally skated to Minnie Ripperton's Les Fleurs. That's some legend shit. What are people expecting? Mumble trap?
and Reynolds to Brian Eno's Big Ship. what an amazing combo. but maybe I'm just getting old.
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I've watched Uncrossed way more times than Baker 4 but I also love that Figgy part
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
Baker and deathwish are all about hammers and gnarly skating. Deathwish definitely delivered but Baker 4 didn't. I've watched baker 4 3 times and all I remember a few tricks from Baca and Figgy.
The video is way too long, especially to watch before going skating. The deathwish video is good start to finish and gets me fired up to skate. Jamie Foy's first trick in his part is gnarlier than the whole baker video. It just didn't live up to the hype. They had like a decade to film while the deathwish dudes put it together quickly without hyping it up.
That's just the type of skating I prefer though. Baker was supposed to have the same type of skating but it didn't.
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
Yes
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
Yes
Spanky's part in TIS is better than anything he's done or will do. I like him but his parts are so predictable. Watching Reynolds still skating is a treat but stay gold Reynolds was the best shit ever. In uncrossed they skated a lot of spots that were in plain sight but people didn't think was possible like Kirby's kickflip over that pink taco bump to bump and his tail drop into that skinny ledge towards the end. The video set a new standard for gnar which is super hard to do these days with so many amazing skaters out there.
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
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Spanky's part in TIS is better than anything he's done or will do. I like him but his parts are so predictable. Watching Reynolds still skating is a treat but stay gold Reynolds was the best shit ever. In uncrossed they skated a lot of spots that were in plain sight but people didn't think was possible like Kirby's kickflip over that pink taco bump to bump and his tail drop into that skinny ledge towards the end. The video set a new standard for gnar which is super hard to do these days with so many amazing skaters out there.
is predictable bad?
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
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Spanky's part in TIS is better than anything he's done or will do. I like him but his parts are so predictable. Watching Reynolds still skating is a treat but stay gold Reynolds was the best shit ever. In uncrossed they skated a lot of spots that were in plain sight but people didn't think was possible like Kirby's kickflip over that pink taco bump to bump and his tail drop into that skinny ledge towards the end. The video set a new standard for gnar which is super hard to do these days with so many amazing skaters out there.
is predictable bad?
Not necessarily but I feel like all his parts after baker 3 were the same. Banks, sw 180 nosegrinds, etc. He still rips though and I'm happy for him but I'd rather watch Kirby skate if I wanna get hyped up before a session. Baker 3 was such an anticipated video. I had my brother drive me to MIA skate shop the day that the DVDs became available. Watching it was an awesome experience. I thought baker 4 was gonna have the same impact but I don't really like the newer kids besides Rowan. It's a feel good video but just not what I expected. Baca surprised the shit out of me though. I wish Nuge had the same drive but he doesn't need to put out footage anymore since he's in that band, owns vol 4 and is doing good financially.
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baker 4 was quality, more sizzle than steak, but the steak was prime af (baca part)
uncrossed was better and heavier, but not better quality (Foy, Pedro is on another level, Kirby)
both were inconsistent in delivery, both could've been filmed/ edited better
baker 4 was kinda conceptualized better/ had "themes"
uncrossed had a choppy flow, film a tad worse than baker 4 imo
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"Let's fucking go!!!" watch Baker 4.
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Baker 4 is like that drunk dude from your early 20s that was always at the DIY spots but disappeared one day. You see him again years later at the skatepark. He got his shit together, finished culinary school, is now married to some Italian chick, they have a daughter. Not as hilarious as he used to be but loves to reference his days as a pile. Still handsome but has a full head of grey hair, like nigga aren’t you only 34?
Uncrossed is the dude who went to Cali years ago for college and you see him around town during the holidays. Still a sick skater but every time you hang with him he is increasingly smug. You have to call him out for regurgitating a talking point Neal Brennan said on his podcast every once in a while so it gets awkward. His saving grace is that he now has great taste in movies.
So yeah I guess Baker 4.
Slap take of the year
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I can't get why people likes Foy skating, it's always the same tricks executed on bigger rails
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I bet all the people saying baker 4 never skated a handrail and don't jump down shit. Older dudes that skate curbs and shit. The deathwish video was nuts. Easily video of the year. So easy to watch and rewatch. Do you guys really prefer spankys part and old man Reynolds to Kirby and delfinos part?
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Spanky's part in TIS is better than anything he's done or will do. I like him but his parts are so predictable. Watching Reynolds still skating is a treat but stay gold Reynolds was the best shit ever. In uncrossed they skated a lot of spots that were in plain sight but people didn't think was possible like Kirby's kickflip over that pink taco bump to bump and his tail drop into that skinny ledge towards the end. The video set a new standard for gnar which is super hard to do these days with so many amazing skaters out there.
is predictable bad?
Not necessarily but I feel like all his parts after baker 3 were the same. Banks, sw 180 nosegrinds, etc. He still rips though and I'm happy for him but I'd rather watch Kirby skate if I wanna get hyped up before a session. Baker 3 was such an anticipated video. I had my brother drive me to MIA skate shop the day that the DVDs became available. Watching it was an awesome experience. I thought baker 4 was gonna have the same impact but I don't really like the newer kids besides Rowan. It's a feel good video but just not what I expected. Baca surprised the shit out of me though. I wish Nuge had the same drive but he doesn't need to put out footage anymore since he's in that band, owns vol 4 and is doing good financially.
That's all subjective. Kirby is good but I could give a fuck about his skating where as spanky is probably one of my favorites right now (if anything I like his new parts more). All comes down to what you're looking for.
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The only problem with Baker 4 is that it's too long and they have too many riders, many of whom aren't producing the way they used to. If it was 5 or 6 of the best parts people would be singing it's praises regularly.
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It sucks everyone forgets about Jake Hayes when talking about uncrossed. Dude ollied over a dumpster on flat. He had third best part behind Kirby and Pedro
I love Jake Hayes, I wish his part was even a bit longer but I enjoyed it
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Baker 4 definitely had the feelings and nostalgia was incredible, bittersweet to see your heroes age like real people.
but almost guiltily I gotta say maybe I watched deathwish more times.
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Deathwish uncrossed is miles ahead