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Me to skate shop: ‘yes….I need the number two grit sheet of mob….I’ll be back quarterly….PS… can I have a sticker’?
Wasn’t the sheet number debunked as it being relative to grit ratio?
Indy yellow are hard as fuck, on par with bones hards. I mixed yellow tops and orange bottoms, was a tough Break in period and the yellows never felt like they gave at all.
Re Mob grip tape number - yes I think someone said it was which line it came from, as in they have half a dozen lines of production, line 1, line 2, line 3, etc.
The fifty sheets in the last box I got from a distro all had different numbers but were all identical in grit.
Maybe once it was something else, but now it is not.
Normal Mob or that Ultra or whatever it is, just like Jessup, normal and then rip you to shreds rough.
As for the Indy 96 yellow bushings, when they are broken in, they are not that hard and felt more like a stiff older stock bushing (as per some I got from a guy who destroys bushings on the regular), but from new they are ridiculous (as you said) and not anything I find comfortable.
Old stocks were harder than they are now?
They are referring to aftermarket bushings not the stock ones. The Indy gold bushings are 90a
Those new aftermarket yellow 96s seemed like they were still way harder than any Indy stock bushings (orange / gold or whatever colour comes in pro edition trucks - white, black, red, blue, green, etc), but not by much when compared to some of the various stock Indy bushings from earlier stages, or at least that is what I was trying to convey.
The direct comparison with old Indy stock bushings is often more difficult as they have been sitting in trucks for ten or twenty years too, when compared to the fairly new sets that have not cured over time like the old ones have, but I feel like other people may or may not have their own experiences to fall back on.
Either way Indy stock bushings would fall apart and crumble more than just crush down or bounce back, but the new ones are also a different formula now as well. Even between the Stage 11 bushings, the new more translucent ones with the concentric circles on them are way more like true 90 duro and feel very similar to current stock Thunder and Venture bushings when you use a crush test (big pair of grips or pliers) but the older Stage 11 ones, that were a more bright solid orange colour, were firmer than the current bushings but still a lot softer than the previous stage bushings too, someone saying that the old Indy bushings used to be about 94 duro when measured with one of those true durometer machines (aka The Professor or someone I think).
The old ones were very stiff right from go, often felt way too hard and if you ever took a brand new truck apart, you could almost never get it back together without a lot of effort or putting in used bushings or leaving out a washer. Had so many struggles with them, which is also the main reason so many people swapped them out right away and most people said they loved the trucks but hated the bushings in them, at least for the Stage 9 trucks that we had in the shop from 2003 or so.
Whatever the experience with them, some people still loved them and quite a few of the old sets I have with nicely broken in bushings still work well enough, but from new they were somewhat unbearable and took a while to wear in nicely.
Also the old aftermarket bushings from the Stage 9 era (2000s) used to come in red / soft 92, orange / medium 94 and black / hard 96 and all of those were a totally different urethane compound than stock bushings, also being way stiffer than anything else, which is why I used to get the red ones and cut them down, but then when they brought out the low heads, I found they worked great in the normal trucks, at least way better than the normal height bushings did, for how they could turn more easily but were still a bit stiffer than some other really soft bushings on the market at the time.
The current options for trucks, bushings and versatility are still better than anything we had in the past, but even the super hard bushings now don't seem half as hard as the older ones from the 2000s.
I don't doubt others may have had different experiences, so it is interesting to hear if anyone else recalls things differently to my own memories or views.
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