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While it seems everyone here is very pro vaccine, vaccine injuries do happen and everyone should be aware of the risks. As more people get vaccinated we are starting to see those injuries occur. I hope none of this happens to any pals, and am posting this so that people can have more information about something that could have life altering consequences for their health.
Florian Dagoury, the world top static breath-holding freediver athlete at the moment - he officially held his breath for 10 min 30 sec twice - has seen his health and performance gravely impaired soon after his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine. He was perfectly healthy before being vaccinated, but now has myocarditis and pericarditis after taking the Pfizer shot. He now recommends traditional vaccines over the mRna vaccines.
Kyle Warner, a 29-year-old professional mountain bike racer, developed pericarditis, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome and reactive arthritis following his second dose of Pfizer’s COVID-19 shot.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVoEk5sh82_/?utm_medium=copy_link
Kyle and other people, who state to a person that they are pro vaccine and pro science, spoke about their injuries at a press conference and it is absolutely heart breaking to see what they are going through.
https://youtu.be/6mxqC9SiRh8?start=998
Why didn't you post this on your actual account? If you truly believe this and that you can prove what you're saying is factual, then why hide who you are?
TL:DR - You should have the balls to stand behind what you say rather than hiding behind anonymity.
Not rabbi, but this argument is a logical fallacy that falls under mind reading. You're also rocking a side helping of hypocrisy unless your name is really Loki700.
The CDC study you cited re: myocarditis features some gems in it: "These findings suggest an association between COVID-19 and myocarditis, although causality cannot be inferred from observational data."
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"The findings in this study are subject to at least six limitations. First, the risk estimates from this study reflect the risk for myocarditis among persons who received a diagnosis of COVID-19 during an outpatient or inpatient health care encounter and do not reflect the risk among all persons who had COVID-19. Second, misclassification of COVID-19 and myocarditis is possible because conditions were determined by ICD-10-CM codes, which were not confirmed by clinical data (e.g., laboratory tests or cardiac imaging) and could be improperly coded or coded with a related condition (e.g., pericarditis). Third, encounters for COVID-19, myocarditis, and COVID-19 vaccination occurring outside of hospital systems that contribute to PHD-SR are not included within this data set. Fourth, underlying medical conditions and alternative etiologies for myocarditis (e.g., autoimmune disease) were not ascertained or excluded. Fifth, the obtained measures of association could be biased because of the choice of the comparison group (all patients without COVID-19) and if physicians were more likely to suspect or diagnose myocarditis among patients with COVID-19. Finally, the findings represent a convenience sample of patients from hospitals reporting to PHD-SR and might not be generalizable to the U.S. population. "
Additionally, re: your number on the chance that you can develop the condition from the vaccine is based on the numbers from the VAERS database. Are you aware of how the reporting works on there? I don't think you want to use those numbers to make your case.
i'm not saying it's these dudes own fault, but when i got my shot, the doc said no sports for a few days, since that might be a reason for people developing myocarditis. knowing what i read on here on how others went about it, most got the shot and when they felt it wouldn't put them down for a day or two just continued doing excercise and whatever. especially the people who are into training were all like "yeah they said no sports, but i have to excercise, bro."
lots of people that got a shot on here went skating the same day, one of my coworkers probably got smashed for three days after his jab to clear the headache.
you don't know how well they followed their doctors advise. a lot of very fit people think they are invincible. generally if you are a high performance athlete your heart is trained to basically work best under duress, you can overtrain your heart to the point where your normal heartrate might get too low to pump enough blood into your system. those inflammatory diseases of the heart are pretty common for soccer players and others. just because someone is into sports or able to bring exceptional stuff to the table in terms of records doesn't mean they are overall healthy.
so to say look, these athletes, who are in top shape got myocarditis and so on from getting the vaccine, doesn't cut it.
my anecdotal evidence is that besides two people everyone in my circle of friends, acquaintances or coworkers is vaccinated, and i'd guess most of them got one of the mrna vaccines. just my sample there was literally no one, not a single person that had sketchy side effects. the sample is probably around a hundred people i'd say. so i basically know no one in person that had really bad side effects aside from sore arm, headache for a day or two, feeling hungover for a day or two. literally not a single one had something worse to tell. i'm not ruling it out, after all the docs warned about it.
these athletes aren't doctors after all, and history shown us time and time again that their docs can also be literally insane or predatory. so to assume just because they are physically strong they can't get sick is straight up idiotic. they are constantly operating on the edge. if you'd know people that do extreme shit like ultrarunning or any time of hypercompetitive dude you know they tend to get mad sick after periods of excessive training and competing. because that shit crushes your system.