Author Topic: New Thunders with standard downlow kingpin? (Read 10379 times)

tom · « **on:** September 22, 2020, 12:08:59 AM »

Maybe I’m late to the party and it’s been brought up before? Maybe Ishod replaced his kingpin? Maybe Thunder is getting in the downlow kingpin game and coming out with a redesigned truck too?

Sila · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2020, 12:18:20 AM »

Judging by the colour of the bushings they look like hollow light ii's with different kingpin.

munchbox · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2020, 01:03:35 AM »

Quote from: Sila on September 22, 2020, 12:18:20 AM

Judging by the colour of the bushings they look like hollow light ii's with different kingpin.

those baseplates look kinda tall for forged...might just be me

Jollyoli · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2020, 02:24:33 AM »

Quote from: off on September 22, 2020, 01:03:35 AM

Quote from: Sila on September 22, 2020, 12:18:20 AM
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Judging by the colour of the bushings they look like hollow light ii's with different kingpin.
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those baseplates look kinda tall for forged...might just be me

They look cast to me, not much real estate to play with inside the forged for nut and pin if you tighten them past the nylock.
I know from personal pain getting krux dl's in there. Stoked for the resurgence of inverted kingpins.

jay_nev · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2020, 04:08:27 AM »

I posted in truck set up thread last night from ishod’s story. As others mentioned.. how about the baseplate extension.

GBLange · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2020, 04:25:48 AM »

He's using riserpads?

moonordie · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2020, 04:28:30 AM »

MalHuis · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2020, 04:44:03 AM »

Jah ah!

Banned from the room · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2020, 04:48:42 AM »

Clear risers

Utopos · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2020, 05:00:38 AM »

I've put the krux downlow kingpins in my thunders for a few years now. They work great. I'll be happy if I never have to knock another stock kingpin out again.

kenjiro · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2020, 06:26:47 AM »

looks like barrel bushings too

jay_nev · « **Reply #11 on:** September 22, 2020, 06:32:28 AM »

huh he is actually using 1/8" risers. first video it looked like a shadow

Xen · « **Reply #12 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:17:30 AM »

Quote from: Jollyoli on September 22, 2020, 02:24:33 AM

Quote from: off on September 22, 2020, 01:03:35 AM
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Quote from: Sila on September 22, 2020, 12:18:20 AM
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Judging by the colour of the bushings they look like hollow light ii's with different kingpin.
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those baseplates look kinda tall for forged...might just be me
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They look cast to me, not much real estate to play with inside the forged for nut and pin if you tighten them past the nylock.
I know from personal pain getting krux dl's in there. Stoked for the resurgence of inverted kingpins.

Cast for sure:

The forged plates are too low to support standard nuts for an inverted pin.

The finish looks different (lighting?); depending on what method they went with they might have had to make a different mold in order to hold onto the nut/sleeve they're using for the inverted pin, unless they just used a sleeve/nut with more meat on it as the cast thunder plates are almost capable of holding onto a regular nut..but at that point why not tweak the plate length...but maybe those risers stick out helping the baseplate slide issue

(I kid)...or they're needed to keep the nut from digging into the deck

Quote from: kenjiro on September 22, 2020, 06:26:47 AM

looks like barrel bushings too

Conicals with a small washer on the bottom.

ok boomer · « **Reply #13 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:20:37 AM »

inverted kingpins on their way to being the norm?

Xen · « **Reply #14 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:23:48 AM »

Quote from: ok boomer on September 22, 2020, 09:20:37 AM

inverted kingpins on their way to being the norm?

Seems like it...Krux been doing it for years....and now that indy jumped on it (presumably due to making a mid, they needed a lower pin) so now Thunder has to play catch-up...Team Venture next up!

Thing is they're all custom parts (even krux) as I've searched for years for stock shit that would do this.

ballintoohard · « **Reply #15 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:44:22 AM »

he's been using risers for a while actually, you can see it in his stories and lots of videos.

backinaction · « **Reply #16 on:** September 22, 2020, 10:02:05 AM »

Quote from: ok boomer on September 22, 2020, 09:20:37 AM

inverted kingpins on their way to being the norm?

Big difference now is that they are using a threaded insert in the baseplate (ala G&S 1990) vs a regular nylock nut.

The nylock nut wouldn't provide enough resistance to side to side movement of the kingpin. Royals rattled like hell. I tried the Krux in a number of trucks and they never felt quite solid.

Indy mid, next version of Krux and I hear this thunder all have threaded inserts.

(I was riding G&S in 1990 and still have two sets)

Frank and Fred · « **Reply #17 on:** September 22, 2020, 10:07:38 AM »

These look great but I have to admit I kind of enjoy destroying my kingpins as I grind down my trucks.

Xen · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2020, 10:10:39 AM »

Quote from: Frank and Fred on September 22, 2020, 10:07:38 AM

These look great but I have to admit I kind of enjoy destroying my kingpins as I grind down my trucks.

You'll still be able to, it will just take a bit longer

Diocletian · « **Reply #19 on:** September 22, 2020, 10:44:42 AM »

Quote from: backinaction on September 22, 2020, 10:02:05 AM

Quote from: ok boomer on September 22, 2020, 09:20:37 AM
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inverted kingpins on their way to being the norm?
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Big difference now is that they are using a threaded insert in the baseplate (ala G&S 1990) vs a regular nylock nut.

The nylock nut wouldn't provide enough resistance to side to side movement of the kingpin. Royals rattled like hell. I tried the Krux in a number of trucks and they never felt quite solid.

Indy mid, next version of Krux and I hear this thunder all have threaded inserts.

(I was riding G&S in 1990 and still have two sets)

Could you post pics of what it looks like under the baseplates where the inserts are?

DarthDingusMaximus · « **Reply #20 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:10:10 AM »

This was what was told to me a few weeks back albeit Jim T. Changes are coming to Thunder's and I'm hyped for it

backinaction · « **Reply #21 on:** September 22, 2020, 11:56:25 AM »

Quote from: Diocletian on September 22, 2020, 10:44:42 AM

Could you post pics of what it looks like under the baseplates where the inserts are?

I saw a pic somewhere last month, but cant find it now. They pretty much look like Powell Rat Nuts.

oneOone · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2020, 01:54:48 PM »

I am not sure if these are 1/8 risers, maybe 2mm polycarbonate as he might took some inspiration from the thread here

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3349885#msg3349885

Xen · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2020, 02:23:33 PM »

Quote from: oneOone on September 22, 2020, 01:54:48 PM

I am not sure if these are 1/8 risers, maybe 2mm polycarbonate as he might took some inspiration from the thread here
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3349885#msg3349885

https://exodusrideshop.com/products/pig-piles-1-8-shock-skateboard-riser-pads-clear?gclid=CjwKCAjwwab7BRBAEiwAapqpTNWDrP1ZTUIBjio_V2PjDLrZ4mQFFFk0IGFc1PLkJupOSo0oI19kRhoC7TMQAvD_BwE

Weezil · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2020, 02:24:43 PM »

damn those look good. definitely will try a pair when they pop up. though I also like to destroy my kingpin nut from grinds. really satisfying when it turns into an unturnable blob.

hillbilly shifty · « **Reply #25 on:** September 22, 2020, 06:25:00 PM »

Quote from: backinaction on September 22, 2020, 11:56:25 AM

Quote from: Diocletian on September 22, 2020, 10:44:42 AM
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Could you post pics of what it looks like under the baseplates where the inserts are?
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I saw a pic somewhere last month, but cant find it now. They pretty much look like Powell Rat Nuts.

pulled some old grind king nut inserts out of my gear bin.
looks like indy is going with something along this style based on the various insta shots.

@backinaction.... not sure if this is what you're thinking of, but i posted this pic over in the indy mids thread.

Diocletian · « **Reply #26 on:** September 22, 2020, 08:10:11 PM »

If Ace did this with their purported forged trucks coming eventually, it would be next level shit.

j....soy..... · « **Reply #27 on:** September 22, 2020, 09:56:29 PM »

Still like the look of how krux' drops into the washer but I'm sure these will work fine. If there's a truck that needs clearance it's thunders....so much less truck....im OK with the cast....drop these into team hollows... Psyched...

rocklobster · « **Reply #28 on:** September 23, 2020, 12:12:16 AM »

Quote from: El Fapinator on September 22, 2020, 11:10:10 AM

This was what was told to me a few weeks back albeit Jim T. Changes are coming to Thunder's and I'm hyped for it

Baseplate changes maybe??

256 Ply · « **Reply #29 on:** December 31, 2020, 05:27:12 PM »

Thunder's new baseplate cavity will now secure a locknut for inverted kingpins, so no more spinning.

Author Topic: New Thunders with standard downlow kingpin? (Read 10379 times)

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