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Title: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: smokecrack on November 12, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Originally posted in the Lame Instagram Posts thread by left knee cap:

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Did anyone catch Stevie Perez’s meltdown on feedback_ts instastory? Wow
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made my day. 

Ted rules
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What happened here?? Feedback is private now.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjrTdknJNbw
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DannyDee on November 12, 2018, 12:09:01 AM
Bad look for Stevie, I'm a fan of his skating. I'm not a fan of Feedback TS and got bored of his insta and unfollowed recently. But, he's right, its completely insane to rant like that to someone who has nothing to lose by posting it. Some guy bashing Chocolate shouldn't elicit a response like that.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Pappy Jones on November 12, 2018, 12:14:26 AM
Well, I agree with Ted’s point.
I’m still a fan of Stevie’s skating but he just came off as the biggest kook.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DCLOVE on November 12, 2018, 12:23:54 AM
Stevie’s career is on a downhill slide since his injury. Every time I see dude he’s posted at Pedlow drinking out front and doesn’t skate. Shit at this point they bring a table to sit at and pile out together. Ted got decent money and a career, Stevie’s gonna work at McDonald’s at Teds age. Ted wins.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: puff daddy on November 12, 2018, 12:35:11 AM
gotta assume he was drunk off his ass
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Post by: TD on November 12, 2018, 12:41:31 AM
Drunk or not, dude's becoming a pile. Sad to see it on ted's story of all places though
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 12, 2018, 01:08:06 AM
Stevie’s career is on a downhill slide since his injury. Every time I see dude he’s posted at Pedlow drinking out front and doesn’t skate. Shit at this point they bring a table to sit at and pile out together. Ted got decent money and a career, Stevie’s gonna work at McDonald’s at Teds age. Ted wins.

Doesn't help that this is out there. With the increase in pc culture these may have blocked him from other sponsors
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Pigeon on November 12, 2018, 01:37:45 AM
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Stevie’s career is on a downhill slide since his injury. Every time I see dude he’s posted at Pedlow drinking out front and doesn’t skate. Shit at this point they bring a table to sit at and pile out together. Ted got decent money and a career, Stevie’s gonna work at McDonald’s at Teds age. Ted wins.
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Doesn't help that this is out there. With the increase in pc culture these may have blocked him from other sponsors
Well, a grown-ass man should know better than to call people, “faggot,” or, “fagot.”

Is Stevie on pills? He called himself a legend and thinks that people buy his boards.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DCLOVE on November 12, 2018, 02:34:03 AM
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Stevie’s career is on a downhill slide since his injury. Every time I see dude he’s posted at Pedlow drinking out front and doesn’t skate. Shit at this point they bring a table to sit at and pile out together. Ted got decent money and a career, Stevie’s gonna work at McDonald’s at Teds age. Ted wins.
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Doesn't help that this is out there. With the increase in pc culture these may have blocked him from other sponsors
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Well, a grown-ass man should know better than to call people, “faggot,” or, “fagot.”

Is Stevie on pills? He called himself a legend and thinks that people buy his boards.

That exchange was just sad. Teds a pretty well read and well spoken dude and could’ve easily destroyed stevie through words if he wanted but Stevie’s actions are so pathetic he let him ruin himself .

I don’t even get the hate, some of the most insecure pros still like and comment on teds shit and get the joke but Stevie’s irrelevant outside of Encino ass doesn’t? This is hilarious. You skate for chocolate and Lakai it’s not like youre rolling in dough or success  Common thing for those Pedlow dudes though. They all think they’re hot shit for making as much as the average midwestern first year college grad. I mean who really would pick anyone up besides Kader if all the pedlow dudes lost their sponsors tomorrow?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: brucewillis on November 12, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
Great style. Not so great attitude
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: swanronson on November 12, 2018, 02:43:02 AM
The thought of buying that dudes board has never crossed my mind, can’t say I’ve ever seen one anyway...
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 12, 2018, 03:44:03 AM
Props to anyone who reads that whole 15 minute email war
Both these "individuals" are some bitches
Remember when people thru fists instead of confronting each other on Instagram, like men, apparently.

Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: BALARGUE on November 12, 2018, 03:53:18 AM
you probably meant like animals
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on November 12, 2018, 03:54:58 AM
Imagine not understanding the joke on Ted's account and thinking, "I am gonna wreck this dude in his DM's".

Shew.

Wee.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 12, 2018, 03:59:18 AM
If someone talks shit to you on instagram and you posts the texts you are SOFT and Feminine

"Look what he said to me, girls GET HIM"
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Coastal Fever on November 12, 2018, 04:03:35 AM
Counterpoint:  If you’re a grown man who calls people “faggot” on the internet, that’s worse than being soft and feminine.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: CoMpLeMeNts4U on November 12, 2018, 04:11:21 AM
At first glance this left a bad taste in my mouth for Stevie but after reading it he was obviously intoxicated. It's a bitch move to post all this online,  he told him how it was a bad look for a pro skater so then why post it? Plus a statement about role models and character flaws to really pat himself on the back.  He is taking personal enjoyment out of Stevie doing this because it gives him the chance to flex this very tiny amount of power and also feel above somebody. Like being in primary school and watching a classmate being bad then running and telling the teacher and feeling good while he gets in trouble in front of everyone.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: LegitDude on November 12, 2018, 04:15:40 AM
If someone talks shit to you on instagram and you posts the texts you are SOFT and Feminine

"Look what he said to me, girls GET HIM"

He's a professional skateboarder not some idiot kid. Actually, he's both
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: redux on November 12, 2018, 04:19:40 AM
At first glance this left a bad taste in my mouth for Stevie but after reading it he was obviously intoxicated. It's a bitch move to post all this online,  he told him how it was a bad look for a pro skater so then why post it? Ted can't handle some barely coherent schoolyard insults? Plus a statement about role models and character flaws to really pat himself on the back.  He is taking personal enjoyment out of Stevie doing this because it gives him the chance to flex this very tiny amount of power and also feel above somebody. Like being in primary school and watching a classmate being bad then running and telling the teacher and feeling good while he gets in trouble in front of everyone.

Its worse because he's baiting Stevie then crying foul. Ted is about as relevant as Boosh.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 12, 2018, 05:22:25 AM
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White Voy is my next slap name feel free to ignore me in advance
Jahospahat getting focused after post 998 believe me
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: thomas kook on November 12, 2018, 05:26:42 AM
i can't believe people are defending stevie because he was 'obviously intoxicated' and that ted should know better? they both should know better, no one is in the wrong no one is the higher power they're both bitching on the internet they're both losers and we're losers for talking about it we all lose in fact i'll join you guys by clicking 'post' right abouuuuut now
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 12, 2018, 05:28:35 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/dLquhq/20181112-070250.jpg)
White Voy is my next slap name feel free to ignore me in advance
Jahospahat getting focused after post 998 believe me
This thread just keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jerkstore on November 12, 2018, 05:42:41 AM
What't the deal with middle aged dudes who are involved with skateboarding but ridicule pros for not having a high-school degree

Like I'm not defending Stevie but jesus christ, Ted being like "would you like to discuss the word faggot?". How is this guy on such a high horse from looking at 14 year old kids on instagram every day.

It's this toxic schadenfreude stuff in skating which sucks
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: hip bruise on November 12, 2018, 06:03:04 AM
What't the deal with middle aged dudes who are involved with skateboarding but ridicule pros for not having a high-school degree
Pretty common refrain on here, see 40 yr old pizza boy comments above..

seems the average slap poster would most likely enjoy an afternoon with my angry middle aged uncle-trading tales of how you bootstrapped your way to your American dream.



Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 12, 2018, 06:03:40 AM
What't the deal with middle aged dudes who are involved with skateboarding but ridicule pros for not having a high-school degree

Like I'm not defending Stevie but jesus christ, Ted being like "would you like to discuss the word faggot?". How is this guy on such a high horse from looking at 14 year old kids on instagram every day.

It's this toxic schadenfreude stuff in skating which sucks
He didn't, though? And what's wrong with Ted calling out a grown-ass man/self-proclaimed G for using a straight-up hateful word? It's not like it's out of character for his persona, he posts shit like this all the time, mostly with kids. Serious question: if the only result of Ted's page is that we all get a few cheap laughs and some fourteen-year-olds/narrow-minded adults are shamed for using the F word and might think twice in the future, what's the problem?

Also, Stevie started his onslaught of epitaphs after Ted told him point-blank that he was posting this "in cold blood," so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: borntosin on November 12, 2018, 06:11:55 AM
Counterpoint:  If you’re a grown man who calls people “faggot” on the internet, that’s worse than being soft and feminine.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: SFblah on November 12, 2018, 06:12:34 AM
The only time I see a Stevie board is when I notice that his graphic is underneath a Justin Eldridge screenprint.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on November 12, 2018, 06:21:15 AM
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What't the deal with middle aged dudes who are involved with skateboarding but ridicule pros for not having a high-school degree

Like I'm not defending Stevie but jesus christ, Ted being like "would you like to discuss the word faggot?". How is this guy on such a high horse from looking at 14 year old kids on instagram every day.

It's this toxic schadenfreude stuff in skating which sucks
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He didn't, though? And what's wrong with Ted calling out a grown-ass man/self-proclaimed G for using a straight-up hateful word? It's not like it's out of character for his persona, he posts shit like this all the time, mostly with kids. Serious question: if the only result of Ted's page is that we all get a few cheap laughs and some fourteen-year-olds/narrow-minded adults are shamed for using the F word and might think twice in the future, what's the problem?

Also, Stevie started his onslaught of epitaphs after Ted told him point-blank that he was posting this "in cold blood," so keep that in mind.


I think we can all agree that Stevie wasn’t using faggot in a derogatory way against the gay community. He was calling Ted a faggot in the same way we use the kook button.

Does that justify the use of the word? Hell no, it’s a awful word that’s been out of acceptable discourse for a while.

This is a shame on both fools situation. Public shaming should be held for the high crimes of society, not two grown men trying to bury each other like some recess playground rumble. Yet extra shame and shade to Ted. The dude has a doctorate. I wouldn’t be surprised if his antics like this actually cost him his job before Stevie’s vernacular costs him a sponsor.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 12, 2018, 06:29:50 AM
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What't the deal with middle aged dudes who are involved with skateboarding but ridicule pros for not having a high-school degree

Like I'm not defending Stevie but jesus christ, Ted being like "would you like to discuss the word faggot?". How is this guy on such a high horse from looking at 14 year old kids on instagram every day.

It's this toxic schadenfreude stuff in skating which sucks
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He didn't, though? And what's wrong with Ted calling out a grown-ass man/self-proclaimed G for using a straight-up hateful word? It's not like it's out of character for his persona, he posts shit like this all the time, mostly with kids. Serious question: if the only result of Ted's page is that we all get a few cheap laughs and some fourteen-year-olds/narrow-minded adults are shamed for using the F word and might think twice in the future, what's the problem?

Also, Stevie started his onslaught of epitaphs after Ted told him point-blank that he was posting this "in cold blood," so keep that in mind.
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I think we can all agree that Stevie wasn’t using faggot in a derogatory way against the gay community. He was calling Ted a faggot in the same way we use the kook button.

Does that justify the use of the word? Hell no, it’s a awful word that’s been out of acceptable discourse for a while.

This is a shame on both fools situation. Public shaming should be held for the high crimes of society, not two grown men trying to bury each other like some recess playground rumble. Yet extra shame and shade to Ted. The dude has a doctorate. I wouldn’t be surprised if his antics like this actually cost him his job before Stevie’s vernacular costs him a sponsor.
I absolutely do not give a shit "how" he was using the word. It's still a word that people hear when they're getting beaten to death. If that's how Stevie wants to characterize himself, he's more than welcome to do so.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: EXTRA SPICY on November 12, 2018, 06:34:29 AM
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What't the deal with middle aged dudes who are involved with skateboarding but ridicule pros for not having a high-school degree

Like I'm not defending Stevie but jesus christ, Ted being like "would you like to discuss the word faggot?". How is this guy on such a high horse from looking at 14 year old kids on instagram every day.

It's this toxic schadenfreude stuff in skating which sucks
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He didn't, though? And what's wrong with Ted calling out a grown-ass man/self-proclaimed G for using a straight-up hateful word? It's not like it's out of character for his persona, he posts shit like this all the time, mostly with kids. Serious question: if the only result of Ted's page is that we all get a few cheap laughs and some fourteen-year-olds/narrow-minded adults are shamed for using the F word and might think twice in the future, what's the problem?

Also, Stevie started his onslaught of epitaphs after Ted told him point-blank that he was posting this "in cold blood," so keep that in mind.
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I think we can all agree that Stevie wasn’t using faggot in a derogatory way against the gay community. He was calling Ted a faggot in the same way we use the kook button.

Does that justify the use of the word? Hell no, it’s an awful word that’s been out of acceptable discourse for a while.

This is a shame on both fools situation. Public shaming should be held for the high crimes of society, not two grown men trying to bury each other like some recess playground rumble. Yet extra shame and shade to Ted. The dude has a doctorate. I wouldn’t be surprised if his antics like this actually cost him his job before Stevie’s vernacular costs him a sponsor.
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I absolutely do not give a shit "how" he was using the word. It's still a word that people hear when they're getting beaten to death. If that's how Stevie wants to characterize himself, he's more than welcome to do so.

I agree. Re-read the bold.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: JeremyScottofChapman on November 12, 2018, 06:48:07 AM
Damn Stevie is blowing it. But Ted is also a 40 year old man trolling teenagers on Instagram.
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Post by: Sarcasm on November 12, 2018, 06:49:47 AM
This made me want to get a Stevie board
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Post by: mclovin1336 on November 12, 2018, 06:53:09 AM
Damn Stevie is blowing it. But Ted is also a 40 year old man trolling teenagers on Instagram.

true, but stevie's 27.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 12, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
Damn Stevie is blowing it. But Ted is also a 40 year old man trolling teenagers on Instagram.


Nobody has to engage with his account. Nobody has to send him clips. At this point if you don’t get the shtick and try to engage it like that, then it’s totally on you.

Also, those trying to ostracize Ted for posting the DMs seem to be missing the point. Who cares if you’re drunk or not? If words like “faggot” are still in your vernacular, you absolutely deserve to be called on it.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: HotnSpicyMcChicken on November 12, 2018, 07:26:13 AM
Sucks to see that Stevie is dumb as a rock.

Always came off as a chill dude in video parts.
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on November 12, 2018, 07:38:06 AM
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Damn Stevie is blowing it. But Ted is also a 40 year old man trolling teenagers on Instagram.
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Nobody has to engage with his account. Nobody has to send him clips. At this point if you don’t get the shtick and try to engage it like that, then it’s totally on you.

Also, those trying to ostracize Ted for posting the DMs seem to be missing the point. Who cares if you’re drunk or not? If words like “faggot” are still in your vernacular, you absolutely deserve to be called on it.

It's true...all of it.

in vino veritas
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: OrangeVHStapes on November 12, 2018, 07:39:30 AM
Honestly I feel like I've seen more footage of Ted than Stevie in the last year or so...
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Post by: shit_for_brains on November 12, 2018, 07:41:38 AM
Hi customer base I'm a representative of a struggling company with image problems gay slur gay slur gay slur fuck you gay slur gay slur fuck you I hope this doesn't affect my standing with the company
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Post by: tkp on November 12, 2018, 07:45:41 AM
Can someone explain to me what sparked this confrontation? So far all I get is feedback_ts said Chocolate wasn't hot anymore.
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Post by: Mystical Leader on November 12, 2018, 08:04:55 AM
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Stevie is dumb as a rock but just to play devils advocate here could you say to someone they are black as fuck as an insult without being called out as a racist? Sure seems like you would get mauled calling someone black as fuck..

 Also that faggot talk.. what is this mid90s?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 12, 2018, 08:06:31 AM
Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

Objectively speaking, calling someone a faggot is a no-no and Stevie has been blowing it lately. But I can totally see how a Mexican American would get pissed when a 40 year old liberal arts white dude clearly egging him on would dare check him on morality.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 12, 2018, 08:31:11 AM
Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

Objectively speaking, calling someone a faggot is a no-no and Stevie has been blowing it lately. But I can totally see how a Mexican American would get pissed when a 40 year old liberal arts white dude clearly egging him on would dare check him on morality.


Being drunk doesn’t excuse you from accountability for your actions. If you act like a piece of shit behind closed doors, nobody owes you the respect of concealing that. Also, most drunk people I encounter don’t suddenly start spouting slurs randomly.
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Post by: Manolo on November 12, 2018, 08:39:23 AM
Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.
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Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 12, 2018, 08:40:03 AM
Not excusing the action, but Stevie was egged on to make an ass of himself. Ted did use the convo to teach a hypocritical lesson of compassion, and he is slanging merch. Smells like bullshit to me.

Oh and Ive been called nigga by countless drunk white people.
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Post by: Manolo on November 12, 2018, 08:47:44 AM
No excuse for the language but putting the chat online is a dick move.
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Post by: JeremyScottofChapman on November 12, 2018, 08:49:41 AM
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Damn Stevie is blowing it. But Ted is also a 40 year old man trolling teenagers on Instagram.
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true, but stevie's 27.

I wasn't implying Stevie was a teenager it was more a general statement about Ted and his Instagram account. And yeah sure the people that engage him on IG are choosing to do so but again he's still a 40 year old man with a career who chooses to do what he's doing on IG which mostly involves teenagers.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: fuckmyself on November 12, 2018, 08:56:09 AM
Met Stevie with a mutual friend at Max Fish a little while back (whenever 'purple' came out) and he was drunk and is absolutely the worst dude I've ever met as far as pros go. Tried starting shit with me for no reason and our mutual friend had to get him out of there because he was a disaster. Feedback was too nice about this (though I understand why), dude sucks big time. Also, got called a white voy too...
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Post by: JamesFardy on November 12, 2018, 08:58:14 AM
This made me want to get a Stevie board

Will likely be discounted soon
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 12, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
Posting this in this here because its unfair to the brandi thread.

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its cool in one thread we have people backing stevie for calling feedback a faggot and in another we have people accepting a person for who they are... slap is hot today
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You cant tell the difference between someone being brave vs. someone else taking advantage of a drunk person to propel their brand?
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LOL.. taking advantage of a drunk person...
ok yeah go back to that thread please and stay there
Stevie was using the word faggot as an insult..
Drunk or Sober that shit isnt 'cool' and shouldnt be brushed off as a drunk insult.. im sure stevie uses that term so loosely its not funny at all
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No one is saying its okay to say faggot, but its also not okay to use someone saying faggot as a way to sell you stickers either. Its also kinda weird to air someone out then try to lecture his IG followers on compassion.
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This is a false equivalence.
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Its not a false equivalence because its not an equivalence at all. Its also not impossible to call out bullshit when people try to use others ugliness for their financial gain. This wasnt on Teds personal account, this was on his merch account.

Also if Stevie gets dropped from the pro ranks it'll be because he hasn't produced in a while not because of his ugliness.  Jason Jesse taught us that this summer .
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: GAY on November 12, 2018, 09:22:37 AM
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White Voy is my next slap name feel free to ignore me in advance
Jahospahat getting focused after post 998 believe me

Since everyone cares what you're up to, the tension on these boards is going to hit an all-time high when you get around 990. I'm already breathless thinking about it.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Billyjoesaunders on November 12, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Listen teds just a bum who talks shit.

Stevie shouldn’t be making comments about being white or being a fagot acting the tough guy because he’s a bum won’t have nowhere to go after crailtaps gone be flipping burgers bum
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Post by: Billy Bitchcakes on November 12, 2018, 09:27:30 AM
they both come across as complete clowns. stevie comes off way worse with the classic "i don't care what you think" while simultaneously sending 200 messages approach. but posting it all publicly under the guise of 'a lesson in morality' when your whole schtick is to talk shit on teenagers is wack too. 
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Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 12, 2018, 09:28:26 AM
Listen teds just a bum who talks shit.

Stevie shouldn’t be making comments about being white or being a fagot acting the tough guy because he’s a bum won’t have nowhere to go after crailtaps gone be flipping burgers bum

Quit #jobshaming him that’s almost as bad as #fartrape
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 12, 2018, 09:31:38 AM
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Posting this in this here because its unfair to the brandi thread.

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its cool in one thread we have people backing stevie for calling feedback a faggot and in another we have people accepting a person for who they are... slap is hot today
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You cant tell the difference between someone being brave vs. someone else taking advantage of a drunk person to propel their brand?
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LOL.. taking advantage of a drunk person...
ok yeah go back to that thread please and stay there
Stevie was using the word faggot as an insult..
Drunk or Sober that shit isnt 'cool' and shouldnt be brushed off as a drunk insult.. im sure stevie uses that term so loosely its not funny at all
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No one is saying its okay to say faggot, but its also not okay to use someone saying faggot as a way to sell you stickers either. Its also kinda weird to air someone out then try to lecture his IG followers on compassion.
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This is a false equivalence.
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Its not a false equivalence because its not an equivalence at all. Its also not impossible to call out bullshit when people try to use others ugliness for their financial gain. This wasnt on Teds personal account, this was on his merch account.

Also if Stevie gets dropped from the pro ranks it'll be because he hasn't produced in a while not because of his ugliness.  Jason Jesse taught us that this summer .
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But you don't think that mentioning them in the same comment is an unwitting equivalence? I get where you're coming from and Ted's move is definitely unsavory, but to read, "this is bad, but this is also bad!" is kinda weird, considering one is throwing around a mostly-accepted-as-offensive term and the other is selling stickers and being preachy.

Also, I'm lost in a quote pyramid so I don't know if you said this, but I think "taking advantage of a drunk person" is a stretch. Stevie said that stuff in (what should be considered at this point) a public forum, mostly unprovoked. Ted didn't goad him on to use that specific word or anything. It's all on Stevie.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: puff daddy on November 12, 2018, 09:32:52 AM
How has Stevie been blowing it lately other than this whole debacle ? He was coming off an injury and had a good amount of clips in that new Doll video, not a full part but the video was about the girl ams anyway. I'm just trying to see if I missed something cause I didnt know slap hated him before this
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 12, 2018, 09:34:14 AM
How has Stevie been blowing it lately other than this whole debacle ? He was coming off an injury and had a good amount of clips in that new Doll video, not a full part but the video was about the girl ams anyway. I'm just trying to see if I missed something cause I didnt know slap hated him before this

He got social warrior justiced which takes away any legit shit he has done ✅
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: everythingisgreat on November 12, 2018, 09:35:36 AM
Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

My thoughts exactly. And I agree with Ted, and his overall message... but his sanctimonious tone almost made me almost vomit 🤮 But, when it comes down to it, I’ve never really been a fan of either of these guys, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: augustmoon on November 12, 2018, 09:38:14 AM
Ted is a class act.  Stevie played himself.  What a fucking kook, along with everyone in this thread defending this shit. 
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: LegitDude on November 12, 2018, 09:42:43 AM
It'd be funny if it turns out Stevie wasn't even drunk
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on November 12, 2018, 09:43:49 AM
Humans are fuckin stupid, ignorant fucktards.

This is a perfect example.

And who the fuck is Ted?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 12, 2018, 09:45:05 AM

My thoughts exactly. And I agree with Ted, and his overall message... but his sanctimonious tone almost made me almost vomit 🤮 But, when it comes down to it, I’ve never really been a fan of either of these guys, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And I'm realizing that's where my messaging got lost at. Because Ted's not wrong, but he's also full of shit.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: verylowimpact on November 12, 2018, 09:46:34 AM
Feedback Ted sort of sucks but that was depressing. Stevie Perez is so typical LA/Southern CA, I got fifth hand embarrassment reading those insults. LA...home of the trashiest of humans.
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Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on November 12, 2018, 09:49:18 AM
LA...home of the trashiest of humans.
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Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 12, 2018, 09:52:16 AM
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Post by: verylowimpact on November 12, 2018, 09:55:26 AM
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Always been OK.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: TheVisitor on November 12, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
Instagram is the worst thing that has ever happened to skateboarding.
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Post by: RIDEFLANNELV2 on November 12, 2018, 09:58:06 AM
Instagram is the worst thing that has ever happened to skateboarding.
*humanity
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Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 12, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
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Always been OK.

Your bold letters are a #trigger. I feel threatened
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 12, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
What about context? What if you like don't like both? If you can't point out anything or discuss anything anymore and everything is turned into a for or against line of reasoning i don't see the need for a forum or discussion, just turn all the topics into a vote and disable comments.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Salty Lame Ass Poosey on November 12, 2018, 10:03:25 AM
Stevie saying the F word is wrong but talking bad about him and talking bad about LA is just as wrong. Maybe stevie is suffering from depression from being hurt and is self medicating with substance abuse. I hope someone reaches out to him and he can get passed this and be back to shredding.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: verylowimpact on November 12, 2018, 10:11:46 AM
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Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Get the strap on November 12, 2018, 10:12:00 AM
I think this is blowing up way out of proportion. It's getting way too much attention and it doesn't even bare any close resemblance to the current US political climate, which I think is influencing the reaction. Two skateboarders bitching at each other in dms is not news. This seems more of a Jerry Springer episode if anything.

I'm not happy but also not surprised at Stevie's behavior, but I think feedback ts is the one who is more corrupt. He is a narcissistic cyber bully.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: bo bice on November 12, 2018, 10:32:07 AM
Stevie of wagon confirmed
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Post by: OrangeVHStapes on November 12, 2018, 10:34:33 AM
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Stevie is dumb as a rock but just to play devils advocate here could you say to someone they are black as fuck as an insult without being called out as a racist? Sure seems like you would get mauled calling someone black as fuck..

 Also that faggot talk.. what is this mid90s?

On imdb triva about the film.

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Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: eight two fives on November 12, 2018, 10:38:57 AM
Ted rules. It’s hilarious how so many people get bent out of shape about his instagram.
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Post by: Manolo on November 12, 2018, 10:45:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HfM54KI.png)

Some people still have common sense.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: augustmoon on November 12, 2018, 10:46:55 AM
Ted rules. It’s hilarious how so many people get bent out of shape about his instagram.

this.  people seem to ignore the fact that he takes every available opportunity to deprecate himself and the purpose of his account.  also ironic that so many people on Slap hate him.  His account is basically Slap personified. 
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: D10S on November 12, 2018, 10:49:59 AM
aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.

Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: chipped tail on November 12, 2018, 10:52:58 AM
Not excusing the action, but Stevie was egged on to make an ass of himself. Ted did use the convo to teach a hypocritical lesson of compassion, and he is slanging merch. Smells like bullshit to me.

Oh and Ive been called nigga by countless drunk white people.
and how did that make you feel?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Pavs323 on November 12, 2018, 10:53:53 AM
Sucks to see that Stevie is dumb as a rock.

Always came off as a chill dude in video parts.
Disagree, the dude has always come off to me as a room temperature IQ numbskull.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: feedmeseymour on November 12, 2018, 11:00:02 AM
aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.

(http://cdn.longboarderlabs.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/800x800-S.MENTAL-DECK-PLUNKETT-BUNDLE-STICKS-8.25.jpg)
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: billyerlife on November 12, 2018, 11:04:32 AM
Stevie has always been a questionable choice for a professional skateboarder, he is the epitome of the pro who makes you wonder why the really good kid in your city can't make it. Turns out he's also a bigoted egomaniacal asshole, which is much more to the point, so fuck him as a skateboarder and as a person.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: borntosin on November 12, 2018, 11:15:17 AM
Stevie of wagon confirmed
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jabootie Bootie on November 12, 2018, 11:21:58 AM
when did skateboarding get so soft?  whatever ted barrow's schtick is, it's irritating and open to conflict.  i had never heard of him before his instagram status started to take off.  never followed him.  checked it out to see what all the fuss was about. it's tattle-tale culture, which is really big right now.  everyone is guilty, but no one is responsible.

cheers to stevie, who'd probably sock him in person, which is how things like this played out before the internet.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Dernpop1 on November 12, 2018, 11:25:18 AM
Stevie is an idiot. Feedback is a dick.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 12, 2018, 11:42:07 AM
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Not excusing the action, but Stevie was egged on to make an ass of himself. Ted did use the convo to teach a hypocritical lesson of compassion, and he is slanging merch. Smells like bullshit to me.

Oh and Ive been called nigga by countless drunk white people.
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and how did that make you feel?

Now its just kinda annoying. When I first started drinking it was a culture shock that white people waited until they're drunk to say nigga but then turn around and try to be the beacon of morality. Its like whats appropriate or not has to be on their terms (which is kinda what kills me about Ted's spiel).

Overall I agree with Ted's point that skatboarders are not ideal role models thus should not be worshipped beyond their skills on a board. I just feel like with all the unaddressed gnarly shit that has gone down in skateboarding (I'll point you to all the Jason Jesse shit), its weak that he kinda wants you to pat him on the back because he triggered stevie into saying some homophobic shit.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Shitbag on November 12, 2018, 11:49:54 AM
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this.  people seem to ignore the fact that he takes every available opportunity to deprecate himself and the purpose of his account.  also ironic that so many people on Slap hate him.  His account is basically Slap personified.
Also this.
Ted’s IG is obviously not for everyone, especially people who take it 100 percent seriously.

Stevie rips and obviously is going through some things while he recovers from injury but he needs to be smarter than this if he’s going to get bent out of shape any time someone (correctly) points out something like Chocolate losing its luster as of late and not being anywhere near relevant as they used to be.

This back and forth was pretty cringe worthy to look at and maybe Ted shouldn’t have posted it online but a lot of what Stevie said was pretty terrible and deserves to be called out.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: johnes on November 12, 2018, 11:52:49 AM
Simply can’t respect a person who says stuff like that to another person.
I’ve said dumb shit while drunk but Stevie was just on the attack in the shittiest way.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: bo golden on November 12, 2018, 11:55:14 AM
Instagram is the worst thing that has ever happened to skateboarding.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on November 12, 2018, 12:16:18 PM
LISTEN TO TED
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on November 12, 2018, 12:24:46 PM
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So #cityshaming is ok now?

Holy fuck.

Cityshaming???? My fuckin God

1990s skaters want to kill us all
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Post by: GAY on November 12, 2018, 12:27:38 PM
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Holy fuck.

Cityshaming???? My fuckin God

1990s skaters want to kill us all

Stop with the 2018shaming!
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Sick Duck on November 12, 2018, 12:37:09 PM
Can we all agree that fat shaming is still noble?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: thebacker on November 12, 2018, 12:40:34 PM
Ted is a class act.  Stevie played himself.  What a fucking kook, along with everyone in this thread defending this shit.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: playemright on November 12, 2018, 03:12:16 PM
Haha all of this is pretty fucking funny, can't we just move on from little spats or is eternal beef necessary? Internets fucking things up, you gotta control the internet not let it control you. Yeah teds kinda a faggot and chocolate ain't shit anymore, congrats you both loose.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: HotnSpicyMcChicken on November 12, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.


I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: MareVitals on November 12, 2018, 03:44:00 PM
Did anyone honestly ever care about Stevie Perez? Fuck em' it's 2018
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: csb711 on November 12, 2018, 03:59:55 PM
Can someone explain to me what sparked this confrontation? So far all I get is feedback_ts said Chocolate wasn't hot anymore.

yeah, how did this begin?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 12, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!

Where did I condone his actions?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 12, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
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Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!

There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Shifty Flip on November 12, 2018, 04:24:08 PM
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aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.
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(http://cdn.longboarderlabs.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/800x800-S.MENTAL-DECK-PLUNKETT-BUNDLE-STICKS-8.25.jpg)

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Edit*  in hindsight, this may be a low key tinder graphic
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Burt Ward on November 12, 2018, 04:26:18 PM
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aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.
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(http://cdn.longboarderlabs.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/800x800-S.MENTAL-DECK-PLUNKETT-BUNDLE-STICKS-8.25.jpg)

Whoah. Edgy graphic.  ::)

Get drunk, call someone a faggot, get aired out, sucked in.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: cheetahsheets on November 12, 2018, 04:28:59 PM
Did anyone honestly ever care about Stevie Perez? Fuck em' it's 2018

His part in pretty sweet is one of 4 I actually watch to this day, so I would say yeah because that’s when girl/chocolate still had everybody.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: playemright on November 12, 2018, 04:30:17 PM
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aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.
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That's not how it was originally used though, that's a rumor maybe the gays started or something, it is a bundle of firewood, but it was used as "annoyance", as it was an annoyance to carry a bundle of firewood. Still holds up today. Look it up.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: no life on November 12, 2018, 04:42:47 PM
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Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
issaying it in "private" is any better? should they not apologize for being hateful? this thread is a fucking trip. full of insecure middle aged white dudes trying to console their egos
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 12, 2018, 05:16:37 PM
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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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issaying it in "private" is any better? should they not apologize for being hateful? this thread is a fucking trip. full of insecure middle aged white dudes trying to console their egos

Not better but it's a context. I guess it's way easier to oversimplify everything and crucify people, fuck stevie perez and good going ted for exposing that piece of shit.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Sarcasm on November 12, 2018, 05:20:43 PM
I once called a kid on a scooter a faggot cause he was ruining my birthday skate time then he proceeded to go play with a pile of sticks, true story.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: GAY on November 12, 2018, 05:26:09 PM
First the queers ruined the rainbow for everybody,
then they ruined your common bundle of sticks.
What's next? Cream puffs?!  >:(
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Burt Ward on November 12, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
First the queers ruined the rainbow for everybody,
then they ruined your common bundle of sticks.
What's next? Cream puffs?!  >:(

Haha!!
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Spunkchild on November 12, 2018, 05:33:36 PM
Hi customer base I'm a representative of a struggling company with image problems gay slur gay slur gay slur fuck you gay slur gay slur fuck you I hope this doesn't affect my standing with the company
Reminds me of all the koston kurb stomp instagram comments. i mean he aint exactly hurtin for money but what even is numbers at this point
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 12, 2018, 05:48:53 PM
Did Ted say “Thanks” or something?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: PABLOS SWANPOWERS LOBSTER on November 12, 2018, 06:09:42 PM
aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.

I'm pretty sure this is a falsehood. I remember some dude telling me this then I researched it if I remember correctly its baseless.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: nopes on November 12, 2018, 06:36:16 PM
im kind of astounded by the amount of people that are worried about someone losing sponsor ship just because they use hateful slurs. im trying to imagine being in a position where all you really have to do is not say terrible shit to keep your gig but thats too hard for you.

i dont care about either of these guys and i dont care what happens to any of them but the constant defense of problematic hateful behavior is a bummer.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Pappy Jones on November 12, 2018, 06:39:11 PM
First the queers ruined the rainbow for everybody,
then they ruined your common bundle of sticks.
What's next? Cream puffs?!  >:(
You’re still my favorite poster
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: urbneathme on November 12, 2018, 07:37:44 PM
aside:

the word "faggot" derives from "fagot: a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel"

the term is used b/c in the middle ages homosexuals used to burned at the stake and the flames were sparked with a fagot.
close but not quite. yes, it means a bunch of sticks. this is otherwise known as kindling. when witches and other folks were burned, gay people were the kindling.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: urbneathme on November 12, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
also just like to the ten people acting as if stevie got taken advantage of: do you know how many individual steps you need to take to send a message to someone on instagram? it's not like a verbal slip up. he took like five fucking moves to use a slur repeatedly. he had many opportunities to consider it. what world do you live in where that's being taken advantage of? (also it's fucking gross to use this moralizing thing to sell stickers, but i get airing it out)
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: iwishilivedinfinla on November 12, 2018, 08:28:51 PM
i love Ted
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Post by: fs overkrook on November 12, 2018, 09:12:25 PM
Isn’t Stevie gay? Pretty whack that slap is shaming him
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Post by: Owen on November 12, 2018, 09:21:37 PM
And who the fuck is Ted?
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Post by: euro tm on November 12, 2018, 09:51:33 PM
BEEKS
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Post by: squintharder on November 12, 2018, 09:59:25 PM
definitely not a good look for stevie. but I will continue to buy his shoe. it's one of the only shoes that fits my feet perfectly
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DannyDee on November 12, 2018, 10:13:17 PM
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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
You shouldn't expect privacy rights randomly messaging someone you don't know over Instagram, especially when you are talking shit to them in that manner. If you do expect privacy doing that, you are an idiot. This isn't like a phone conversation where in most cases recording it, it is two-party consent.

I do find it funny though how immediately after Stevie does this though he becomes washed up and not good. Look, there are a bunch of idiots in this world, but that doesn't mean even if you think someone is an asshole you can't respect their talent in a certain field.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: nino brown on November 13, 2018, 02:47:55 AM
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First the queers ruined the rainbow for everybody,
then they ruined your common bundle of sticks.
What's next? Cream puffs?!  >:(
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You’re still my favorite poster
Amazed at how all you fools gas this dude up all the time. Multiple post in threads that arent even remotely funny. Corny spam basically
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 03:41:21 AM
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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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You shouldn't expect privacy rights randomly messaging someone you don't know over Instagram, especially when you are talking shit to them in that manner. If you do expect privacy doing that, you are an idiot. This isn't like a phone conversation where in most cases recording it, it is two-party consent.

I do find it funny though how immediately after Stevie does this though he becomes washed up and not good. Look, there are a bunch of idiots in this world, but that doesn't mean even if you think someone is an asshole you can't respect their talent in a certain field.

I completely agree, especially with that last talent part. But that's a concept a lot of people here don't understand or don't want to hear about anymore. You're with us or against us is all the rage these days.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on November 13, 2018, 03:53:48 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/dLquhq/20181112-070250.jpg)
White Voy is my next slap name feel free to ignore me in advance
Jahospahat getting focused after post 998 believe me

White Jamie Voy.
Just do it.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Pigeon on November 13, 2018, 04:18:53 AM
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Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Dark Knight on November 13, 2018, 04:52:24 AM
Looks like Stevie focused his insta.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: BALARGUE on November 13, 2018, 05:15:09 AM
Good job Ted
making dm public is not that good but this story about stevie is kinda the point of Teds account.
people hating on him usually don't put the effort to understand what's Ted point and only see a old dude hating on kids.
What i see regularly is that skaters usually don't like people using keyboards... and dislike educated people.

Being dumb is your weakness, being educated is not mine
and if you don't want to look like a dick, just stop acting like one
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Post by: cheetahsheets on November 13, 2018, 05:16:27 AM
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Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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You shouldn't expect privacy rights randomly messaging someone you don't know over Instagram, especially when you are talking shit to them in that manner. If you do expect privacy doing that, you are an idiot. This isn't like a phone conversation where in most cases recording it, it is two-party consent.

I do find it funny though how immediately after Stevie does this though he becomes washed up and not good. Look, there are a bunch of idiots in this world, but that doesn't mean even if you think someone is an asshole you can't respect their talent in a certain field.
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I completely agree, especially with that last talent part. But that's a concept a lot of people here don't understand or don't want to hear about anymore. You're with us or against us is all the rage these days.

Stevie Perez ain’t no fucking Van Gogh. Get out of here with that shit. If anything that would be Marc, and I’m sorry but one fumbling buffoon is good enough for me.
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Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 05:50:55 AM
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Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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You shouldn't expect privacy rights randomly messaging someone you don't know over Instagram, especially when you are talking shit to them in that manner. If you do expect privacy doing that, you are an idiot. This isn't like a phone conversation where in most cases recording it, it is two-party consent.

I do find it funny though how immediately after Stevie does this though he becomes washed up and not good. Look, there are a bunch of idiots in this world, but that doesn't mean even if you think someone is an asshole you can't respect their talent in a certain field.
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I completely agree, especially with that last talent part. But that's a concept a lot of people here don't understand or don't want to hear about anymore. You're with us or against us is all the rage these days.
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Stevie Perez ain’t no fucking Van Gogh. Get out of here with that shit. If anything that would be Marc, and I’m sorry but one fumbling buffoon is good enough for me.

I'm not only talking about stevie perez in particular, it's about everything, it's that same line of reasoning with everything. Any subject is turned into a dumb two camp thing.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jerkstore on November 13, 2018, 07:27:57 AM
Good job Ted
making dm public is not that good but this story about stevie is kinda the point of Teds account.
people hating on him usually don't put the effort to understand what's Ted point and only see a old dude hating on kids.
What i see regularly is that skaters usually don't like people using keyboards... and dislike educated people.

Being dumb is your weakness, being educated is not mine
and if you don't want to look like a dick, just stop acting like one

you deserve the gulag for this kinda talk
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: tortfeasor on November 13, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
if you are over the age of 16 getting so drunk that you start shit someone on insta dm's because they hurt your feelings might be the single softest thing you can do. i dont wish ill on stevie perez, but its tough to root for him after seeing this.



There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.


i generally take any opportunity to blow smoke up your ass, because I'm a big fan... but dude.  are you friends with stevie?  this isnt a private chat.  this is not jokes between two friends.  stevie (an adult) messaged a stranger talking all kinds of shit and didn't relent. ted gave him opportunities to end the chat but he kept going. ted does not owe stevie anything.  stevie is responsible to stevie-- hes an adult.  if someone DM's you and starts spouting all that shit and dropping slurs are you not going to blow up their spot?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 13, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
I don't see the issue.
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Post by: Allen. on November 13, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
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I don't see the issue.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on November 13, 2018, 10:36:10 AM
I just hope he was actually laughing out loud all those times he typed out lol. I don't know why people think giving the impression they are sitting there staring at their phone laughing like a maniacal super villain is a good way to win an argument.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 10:56:02 AM
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I don't see the issue.

Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 11:17:00 AM
if you are over the age of 16 getting so drunk that you start shit someone on insta dm's because they hurt your feelings might be the single softest thing you can do. i dont wish ill on stevie perez, but its tough to root for him after seeing this.


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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.

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i generally take any opportunity to blow smoke up your ass, because I'm a big fan... but dude.  are you friends with stevie?  this isnt a private chat.  this is not jokes between two friends.  stevie (an adult) messaged a stranger talking all kinds of shit and didn't relent. ted gave him opportunities to end the chat but he kept going. ted does not owe stevie anything.  stevie is responsible to stevie-- hes an adult.  if someone DM's you and starts spouting all that shit and dropping slurs are you not going to blow up their spot?

Hey i met him a couple time he was cool, not drunk idk i don't know him. He shouldn't have said and use that word like that, it's bad. Pm's are private though it's not a public chat or a live right? Or am i insane?
Ted decided to repost the chat, it's a decision he took that he was not forced to?
I received all kind of extremely stupid pm on instagram ranging from embarassing to death threat and i never made anything public.

But once again i don't really care about Stevie, dude acted like an idiot and now he's gonna have to deal with it. What pisses me off everytime with these topics,,but it seems to generalize to anything... is the complete disregard for context and general extreme reasoning that was ironically in the past usually used by actual racist and bigots, or worse.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 13, 2018, 11:30:12 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: tortfeasor on November 13, 2018, 11:40:46 AM
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if you are over the age of 16 getting so drunk that you start shit someone on insta dm's because they hurt your feelings might be the single softest thing you can do. i dont wish ill on stevie perez, but its tough to root for him after seeing this.


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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.

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i generally take any opportunity to blow smoke up your ass, because I'm a big fan... but dude.  are you friends with stevie?  this isnt a private chat.  this is not jokes between two friends.  stevie (an adult) messaged a stranger talking all kinds of shit and didn't relent. ted gave him opportunities to end the chat but he kept going. ted does not owe stevie anything.  stevie is responsible to stevie-- hes an adult.  if someone DM's you and starts spouting all that shit and dropping slurs are you not going to blow up their spot?
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Hey i met him a couple time he was cool, not drunk idk i don't know him. He shouldn't have said and use that word like that, it's bad. Pm's are private though it's not a public chat or a live right? Or am i insane?
Ted decided to repost the chat, it's a decision he took that he was not forced to?
I received all kind of extremely stupid pm on instagram ranging from embarassing to death threat and i never made anything public.

But once again i don't really care about Stevie, dude acted like an idiot and now he's gonna have to deal with it. What pisses me off everytime with these topics,,but it seems to generalize to anything... is the complete disregard for context and general extreme reasoning that was ironically in the past usually used by actual racist and bigots, or worse.

its private until the other party decides it not. its your choice to keep those messages private.   ted did make a choice. i agree with it. you may not.  rational minds can disagree on that.  just like stevie; ted will have to deal with the consequences of that action (he's probably not getting on the nine club anytime soon).

As far as the disregard for context--- i think that argument is about 5 years too late and it misses the context of where it fell in stevie's words.  between two friends as a (poorly tasted) joke its not an acceptable thing to say but its forgivable. but this isnt one friend mocking another for knowing all the words to la vie boheme. Stevie laid it inside of pretty unequivocal language. Look at the sentence it falls in "ill send you a box when when you die..." look how many times he used the words pussy and bitch surrounding it.  there was a lot of genuine hate behind those words. have there been witch hunts? yes. has there been stuff lost in translation: absolutely.  but this does not seem like one of those times.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: foureyedjim on November 13, 2018, 11:48:42 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.

People will come up with the silliest excuses for unwillingness to change.  I always wonder why people get soooo upset when other people are offended.  Like, will your life change very much just because you can no longer say nigga or faggot without people calling you out on it?  Is the little amount of effort to change what words you use going to fundamentally change who you are as a person?  Seems to me like some people just don't care enough about others to put in that small amount of effort. 
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.

You don't get it. You're still talking to me like i'm trying to defend him or something.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 13, 2018, 11:57:44 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
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You don't get it. You're still talking to me like i'm trying to defend him or something.
You are.
There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: shit_for_brains on November 13, 2018, 11:58:33 AM
How's shouting into the void going everybody
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Post by: Sarcasm on November 13, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
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You don't get it. You're still talking to me like i'm trying to defend him or something.
It actually is okay for Stevie to use the “n” word, ask any black guy.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
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People will come up with the silliest excuses for unwillingness to change.  I always wonder why people get soooo upset when other people are offended.  Like, will your life change very much just because you can no longer say nigga or faggot without people calling you out on it?  Is the little amount of effort to change what words you use going to fundamentally change who you are as a person?  Seems to me like some people just don't care enough about others to put in that small amount of effort.

My problem doesn't reside with change, it's about how it's done. I never supported totalitarism and i will never do no matter who's running it. There's other ways to change things and education is the only working one. Banning words and forcing your beliefs on people only leads to conflict.
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Post by: sms_b on November 13, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
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Instagram is the worst thing that has ever happened to skateboarding.
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Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 12:06:15 PM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
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You don't get it. You're still talking to me like i'm trying to defend him or something.
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You are.
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I'm just checking the context before burning people to the ground. You should try it it's called justice.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: heckler on November 13, 2018, 12:06:38 PM
Totalitarianism = banning nothing but pointing out that people who use words intended to keep an entire demographic down are, at best, fucking idiots and, at worst, close-minded bigots. Got it.
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Post by: StabMasterArson on November 13, 2018, 12:07:25 PM
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Being a decent human is the worst thing that has ever happened to skateboarding.
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Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: tortfeasor on November 13, 2018, 12:09:06 PM
How's shouting into the void going everybody

pretty good... but all these "guests" viewing the thread is making it feel a little crowded.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Manolo on November 13, 2018, 12:18:22 PM
Totalitarianism = banning nothing but pointing out that people who use words intended to keep an entire demographic down are, at best, fucking idiots and, at worst, close-minded bigots. Got it.

Wrong. Maybe if you just stopped concentrating only on putting words in my mouth and making me looking like an idiot you could see it. I'm on your side i just don't share the methods and particularly the summary justice.
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Being a decent human is the worst thing that has ever happened to skateboarding.
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Why Instagram and not internet in general then?
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Post by: csb711 on November 13, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
what did Ted do to offend Stevie in the first place?
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Post by: mastaklat710 on November 13, 2018, 01:49:35 PM
LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.
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Post by: mastaklat710 on November 13, 2018, 01:51:54 PM
And anyone who considers this dude an intellectual might as well off themselves too. He's an adult sitting at the children's table.
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Post by: Tortoise on November 13, 2018, 01:59:47 PM
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Totalitarianism = banning nothing but pointing out that people who use words intended to keep an entire demographic down are, at best, fucking idiots and, at worst, close-minded bigots. Got it.
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Correct.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Nosferatu on November 13, 2018, 02:01:10 PM
LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.

Me and my friends got stoked on Ted from the Lurkers 2 promo we saw on hard copy back in 2004 or so.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Get the strap on November 13, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
Completely agree mastaklat710, dude is no good on many levels.

CSB711, if you look at the OP's youtube video, it appears feedback was talking shit on Chocolate and Stevie came at him. I'm not sure why the backstory is not included in this discussion.
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Post by: MOUNTAIN on November 13, 2018, 02:03:23 PM
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Post by: mastaklat710 on November 13, 2018, 02:15:42 PM
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LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.
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Me and my friends got stoked on Ted from the Lurkers 2 promo we saw on hard copy back in 2004 or so.

Wonderful. It's now 2018 and you're drinking this dude's kool aid faster than he can make it
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on November 13, 2018, 02:16:37 PM
remember when someone coined the term 'little kid style' to describe his pretty sweet part? good times.
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Post by: white voy on November 13, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
it's me snitches
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Robert Baratheon on November 13, 2018, 02:48:50 PM
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.

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i generally take any opportunity to blow smoke up your ass, because I'm a big fan... but dude.  are you friends with stevie?  this isnt a private chat.  this is not jokes between two friends.  stevie (an adult) messaged a stranger talking all kinds of shit and didn't relent. ted gave him opportunities to end the chat but he kept going. ted does not owe stevie anything.  stevie is responsible to stevie-- hes an adult.  if someone DM's you and starts spouting all that shit and dropping slurs are you not going to blow up their spot?
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Hey i met him a couple time he was cool, not drunk idk i don't know him. He shouldn't have said and use that word like that, it's bad. Pm's are private though it's not a public chat or a live right? Or am i insane?
Ted decided to repost the chat, it's a decision he took that he was not forced to?
I received all kind of extremely stupid pm on instagram ranging from embarassing to death threat and i never made anything public.

But once again i don't really care about Stevie, dude acted like an idiot and now he's gonna have to deal with it. What pisses me off everytime with these topics,,but it seems to generalize to anything... is the complete disregard for context and general extreme reasoning that was ironically in the past usually used by actual racist and bigots, or worse.
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its private until the other party decides it not. its your choice to keep those messages private.   ted did make a choice. i agree with it. you may not.  rational minds can disagree on that.  just like stevie; ted will have to deal with the consequences of that action (he's probably not getting on the nine club anytime soon).

As far as the disregard for context--- i think that argument is about 5 years too late and it misses the context of where it fell in stevie's words.  between two friends as a (poorly tasted) joke its not an acceptable thing to say but its forgivable. but this isnt one friend mocking another for knowing all the words to la vie boheme. Stevie laid it inside of pretty unequivocal language. Look at the sentence it falls in "ill send you a box when when you die..." look how many times he used the words pussy and bitch surrounding it.  there was a lot of genuine hate behind those words. have there been witch hunts? yes. has there been stuff lost in translation: absolutely.  but this does not seem like one of those times.

Ted's account is a public space and he's been posting DM conversations since its inception. I don't think that was out of line. Ted wasn't the one throwing the f word around. Its pretty clear that Ted trying to help Stevie at the end there. I may catch shit for this but I'm going to say it anyway, I don't think Stevie comes from a lot. I don't know if he graduated HS. He just doesn't get that you can't spew that BS as a public figure. I doubt that he'll lose any sponsors over it. Hopefully the people looking out for Stevie will help him grow from this.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: SpankerChief on November 13, 2018, 03:04:43 PM
Pfffttt hahahahahahaha joke's on with Stevie and Ted, might as well order a Braille or Revive board and join Aaron Kyro or Andy Shrock in a circle jerk over whose dick is smaller.......
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Post by: weon on November 13, 2018, 03:27:47 PM
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Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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You shouldn't expect privacy rights randomly messaging someone you don't know over Instagram, especially when you are talking shit to them in that manner. If you do expect privacy doing that, you are an idiot. This isn't like a phone conversation where in most cases recording it, it is two-party consent.

I do find it funny though how immediately after Stevie does this though he becomes washed up and not good. Look, there are a bunch of idiots in this world, but that doesn't mean even if you think someone is an asshole you can't respect their talent in a certain field.
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I completely agree, especially with that last talent part. But that's a concept a lot of people here don't understand or don't want to hear about anymore. You're with us or against us is all the rage these days.

you need to be a decent human as well in order to be admired and respected. yes, no one is perfect, there is trial and error in life, and there is failure and the need for second chances. but we also need to stop propelling awful humans to the top of their "certain field" and allowing them to remain there bc of their talent/success alone—no one should get a pass! there is a societal need to give people a rough awakening in order to effect change, because it hasn't been done in the past. there's been too much slap on the wrist bullshit on this earth already. ppl need to get that if you're lacking morally and ethically you're a no-go, change is needed or you're off to the sidelines.

if there is no backlash and stevie continues to be respected bc of his skateboarding, he might continue to call himself a g, and send the message that anyone can do this. if he doesn't change, he will unfortunately be a detriment to pursuing an equal and respectful society :( who you are as a person needs to be a bigger part of it...
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: foureyedjim on November 13, 2018, 04:30:03 PM
LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.

This almost reads exactly like someone an angry comment from one of Ted's videos to a T. 
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Ducky Fucky on November 13, 2018, 05:13:21 PM
I'm backing Ted on this one. Also don't care for Chocolate skateboard's.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Groshua on November 13, 2018, 06:03:08 PM
Completely agree mastaklat710, dude is no good on many levels.

CSB711, if you look at the OP's youtube video, it appears feedback was talking shit on Chocolate and Stevie came at him. I'm not sure why the backstory is not included in this discussion.

Apparently he was saying racist stuff to or about Stevie's 17 year old cousin.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Burt Ward on November 13, 2018, 07:19:10 PM
LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.

Hey! Get a load of this guy!
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Post by: Allen. on November 13, 2018, 07:30:54 PM
He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.

I don’t think anyone would argue with your conclusion.
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Post by: Nosferatu on November 13, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
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LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.
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Me and my friends got stoked on Ted from the Lurkers 2 promo we saw on hard copy back in 2004 or so.
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Wonderful. It's now 2018 and you're drinking this dude's kool aid faster than he can make it

It’s now 2018, saying someone is only relevant because of the internet as a slight makes no sense.

Edit: Though I like Ted as an internet skate personality I think this instance of baiting someone and then posting it is lame.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: tura on November 13, 2018, 08:48:29 PM
it's me snitches

This combined with your post count and rep (1 and -1 respectively) reminded me of a time my friend knocked on a door to a house party and someone opened it, punched him in the face, and closed it again.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: theblandest on November 13, 2018, 10:44:55 PM
Imagine if Tony Hawk had said shit like this
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Post by: mell0w_type on November 13, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
what if ted replied with "you're black as fuck" when stevie said "you're white as fuck" would that be racist? was what stevie said racist? if you believe one is racist and the other is not, you are racist.

also, ted makes being white seem pretty fucking great. fuck stevie. the dude is clearly a degenerate having a mid-life crisis aka his mental health is declining. don't get me wrong though, i totally feel bad for the dude. his demeanor is unbearable.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 13, 2018, 11:11:06 PM
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2a69rv9.jpg)


He’s got a face only Angel Ramirez’s mother could love
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: no life on November 13, 2018, 11:44:41 PM
what if ted replied with "you're black as fuck" when stevie said "you're white as fuck" would that be racist? was what stevie said racist? if you believe one is racist and the other is not, you are racist.

also, ted makes being white seem pretty fucking great. fuck stevie. the dude is clearly a degenerate having a mid-life crisis aka his mental health is declining. don't get me wrong though, i totally feel bad for the dude. his demeanor is unbearable.
havent said this in a few years but kill yourself
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Post by: mell0w_type on November 14, 2018, 12:13:56 AM
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what if ted replied with "you're black as fuck" when stevie said "you're white as fuck" would that be racist? was what stevie said racist? if you believe one is racist and the other is not, you are racist.

also, ted makes being white seem pretty fucking great. fuck stevie. the dude is clearly a degenerate having a mid-life crisis aka his mental health is declining. don't get me wrong though, i totally feel bad for the dude. his demeanor is unbearable.
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havent said this in a few years but kill yourself


Very cool
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: morningcommute on November 14, 2018, 12:41:14 AM
the dude is clearly a degenerate having a mid-life crisis aka his mental health is declining.

you appear confused by the term 'mid-life crisis'
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Post by: Seadramon on November 14, 2018, 01:15:57 AM
Imagine if Tony Hawk had said shit like this
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Post by: NORTHBYMIDWEST on November 14, 2018, 01:49:21 AM
Imagining Tony Hawk having a Roseanne Barr style twitter melt down has me cracking up
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 14, 2018, 02:41:23 AM
Imagining Tony Hawk having a Roseanne Barr style twitter melt down has me cracking up

Another thing he could steal from Tas Pappas
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jerkstore on November 14, 2018, 02:57:44 AM
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Completely agree mastaklat710, dude is no good on many levels.

CSB711, if you look at the OP's youtube video, it appears feedback was talking shit on Chocolate and Stevie came at him. I'm not sure why the backstory is not included in this discussion.
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Apparently he was saying racist stuff to or about Stevie's 17 year old cousin.

Yo, where's the sauce?
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Post by: Manolo on November 14, 2018, 03:17:12 AM
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Completely agree mastaklat710, dude is no good on many levels.

CSB711, if you look at the OP's youtube video, it appears feedback was talking shit on Chocolate and Stevie came at him. I'm not sure why the backstory is not included in this discussion.
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Apparently he was saying racist stuff to or about Stevie's 17 year old cousin.
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Yo, where's the sauce?

If true that is definitely some context although i really can't picture ted being racist.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: bo bice on November 14, 2018, 07:34:51 AM
LMFAO all you have to read is "Im speaking to you as a man" / "a lot more people look at my shit than yours"

That feedback dude is an absolute joke. Absolutely 1000% irrelevant to any current or past event that has to do with skateboarding. Without the internet he is nothing. He is a degree away from blowing his brains out. He's creating his own relevancy by making fun of people behind the comfort and security of an iphone. If you can't see that, then you're lost.

Neat observation, Tyler Durden. (Posted from iPhone)
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Post by: CRAILFISH TO REVERT on November 14, 2018, 07:48:16 AM
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Imagining Tony Hawk having a Roseanne Barr style twitter melt down has me cracking up
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Another thing he could steal from Tas Pappas

'YOU DON'T EVEN FLIP YOUR BOARD, MATE!'
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Post by: Pigeon on November 14, 2018, 08:20:29 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
So, why did you go after Ben Kadow, when he dresses up like a thousand other punk kids?
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Post by: Groshua on November 14, 2018, 08:25:07 AM
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Completely agree mastaklat710, dude is no good on many levels.

CSB711, if you look at the OP's youtube video, it appears feedback was talking shit on Chocolate and Stevie came at him. I'm not sure why the backstory is not included in this discussion.
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Apparently he was saying racist stuff to or about Stevie's 17 year old cousin.
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Yo, where's the sauce?
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If true that is definitely some context although i really can't picture ted being racist.

Before he focused his instagram I commented and he DM'd me saying "Fuck you too" and mentioned it.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on November 14, 2018, 08:43:10 AM
Upload some screenshots.
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Post by: augustmoon on November 14, 2018, 08:50:43 AM
yeah, i find the "ted was being racist" thing pretty hard to believe
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Post by: SneakySecrets on November 14, 2018, 09:06:08 AM
Ok so I had to look it up, but apparently this Stevie Perez is pro for Chocolate, I believe. 

Wouldn’t have known he existed if he didn’t say some dumb shit on Instagram.
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Post by: Groshua on November 14, 2018, 09:07:59 AM
Upload some screenshots.

I have no idea what I'm doing, but we will see if this works


http://imgur.com/32B9Buj
http://imgur.com/agLoW98
http://imgur.com/Au52Mo0
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Post by: Manolo on November 14, 2018, 09:16:35 AM
These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..
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Post by: bo bice on November 14, 2018, 09:16:57 AM
Ok so I had to look it up, but apparently this Stevie Perez is pro for Chocolate, I believe. 

Wouldn’t have known he existed if he didn’t say some dumb shit on Instagram.

congrats on waking up from that coma and still remembering to post on SLAP
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Post by: augustmoon on November 14, 2018, 09:19:48 AM
These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..

because they don't exist
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Post by: Groshua on November 14, 2018, 09:21:43 AM
These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..
I'm no Euro TM so I don't have those screenshots, but from what Stevie said it was either in a DM between Stevie and Ted or his friend and Ted.
In my DM's Stevie just said he could have "done the same thing to that dood." So I don't know man
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: augustmoon on November 14, 2018, 09:22:18 AM
also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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Post by: iwishilivedinfinla on November 14, 2018, 09:34:31 AM
that's actually super funny
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Post by: Beeda Weeda on November 14, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
stevi perez is an icon.
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Post by: Jerkstore on November 14, 2018, 09:52:40 AM
These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..

hmm... ted looks like a prick, wouldn't put it past him

dudes hella ugly and smug
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Post by: heckler on November 14, 2018, 10:07:15 AM
Stevie thought Ted was talking shit on Pedlow locals.
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Post by: Manolo on November 14, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
Maybe but with that kind of accusation you definitely need proof.
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Post by: Get the strap on November 14, 2018, 10:14:07 AM
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These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..
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hmm... ted looks like a prick, wouldn't put it past him

dudes hella ugly and smug

I got racists undertones the whole time...I didn't mention it before. Does feedback not know how to handle himself talking to a hispanic homie from east LA? Or is feedback's "pass the grey poupon" act, not an act but he's really like that naturally? It doesn't really matter, he is what he is...
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Post by: Juicyboy on November 14, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
White voy Ted sure is a smug little bitch for exploiting Stevie sticking up for his little homies. Caught him saying something racist the other day and had to unfollow. Classic white middle class snob! Burn him on the cross.
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Post by: DM on November 14, 2018, 10:36:41 AM
Someone tagged Ted in a Instagram post yesterday and he commented to say Stevie had apologised to him. I can't find the post now as it has been deleted I presume. Wish I'd screenshot.
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Post by: bo bice on November 14, 2018, 10:46:20 AM
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These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..
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hmm... ted looks like a prick, wouldn't put it past him

dudes hella ugly and smug
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I got racists undertones the whole time...I didn't mention it before. Does feedback not know how to handle himself talking to a hispanic homie from east LA? Or is feedback's "pass the grey poupon" act, not an act but he's really like that naturally? It doesn't really matter, he is what he is...

dude slides into his DMs and calls him a homophobic slur, how should he have handled it? Or is this an east LA thing that I’m unfamiliar with? keep reaching
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Post by: Trickflip on November 14, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
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I have no idea what I'm doing, but we will see if this works


http://imgur.com/32B9Buj
http://imgur.com/agLoW98
http://imgur.com/Au52Mo0
Stevie Perez vs Slap Member
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Get the strap on November 14, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
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These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..
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hmm... ted looks like a prick, wouldn't put it past him

dudes hella ugly and smug
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I got racists undertones the whole time...I didn't mention it before. Does feedback not know how to handle himself talking to a hispanic homie from east LA? Or is feedback's "pass the grey poupon" act, not an act but he's really like that naturally? It doesn't really matter, he is what he is...
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dude slides into his DMs and calls him a homophobic slur, how should he have handled it? Or is this an east LA thing that I’m unfamiliar with? keep reaching

You accuse me of reaching when you're cherrypicking the dm conversation that is right there for you to read in the OP.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: GAY on November 14, 2018, 12:25:56 PM
also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed

"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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Post by: mell0w_type on November 14, 2018, 03:15:57 PM
it's not illegal to be homophobic. if someone is homophobic but causes 0 harm to homosexuals it really isn't a problem. how triggered are you rn? if you want to live in a society where every citizen is forced to hold certain beliefs, get the fuck out of NA, fast. we like freedom here.
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Post by: FROTHY on November 14, 2018, 03:23:13 PM
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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."

He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic. 
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: CoMpLeMeNts4U on November 14, 2018, 03:23:49 PM
You don't seem like the mellow type my guy. I don't get mellow vibes .
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Post by: no life on November 14, 2018, 03:31:24 PM
it's not illegal to be homophobic. if someone is homophobic but causes 0 harm to homosexuals it really isn't a problem. how triggered are you rn? if you want to live in a society where every citizen is forced to hold certain beliefs, get the fuck out of NA, fast. we like freedom here.
mellow type of tolerance, on trump
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Get the strap on November 14, 2018, 03:39:49 PM
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also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.

I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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Post by: no life on November 14, 2018, 03:46:17 PM
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also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
focus your account
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Post by: Get the strap on November 14, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
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also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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focus your account

So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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focus your account
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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also:

"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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focus your account
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs

Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.
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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
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lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.

Nah it’s 2018, we call out chumps now.
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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
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lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.
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Nah it’s 2018, we call out chumps now.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: haydtang on November 14, 2018, 05:45:53 PM
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LA...home of the trashiest of humans.
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So #cityshaming is ok now?
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Holy fuck.

Cityshaming???? My fuckin God

1990s skaters want to kill us all
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Stop with the 2018shaming!
pls dont assume my city
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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.


Maybe Ted is a jerk, ive never met him or Stevie.
As far as i can tell the @feedback_ts account is based on making fun of shit and over analysing skateboarding/skaters, i think a lot of it is funny. I like weck too though so maybe i am just a kook at heart.
I didnt catch the beginning of this thing, so im not sure what Ted said originally (chocolate diss? directly to Stevie or in general?) but Stevie acted like a muppet in those messages, sending all the hate messages is what it is.

Of course Ted was going to reply, what else would you expect from an account that regularly replies to dms from little kids and posts the screenshots.
You said Ted is a bully Stevie isnt, and that Ted shouldve just blocked and ignored Stevies hateful spam.
If you stir someone up to the point where you "make" them spam you with a bunch of hateful messages then youre a dickhead too, but any backlash for the hateful shit they say is on them not you.

Ted is a dickhead, Stevie is worse.
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Post by: Pigeon on November 14, 2018, 07:20:24 PM
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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.
Where is the proof of Ted saying racist shit? If there was, someone would have a screenshot of it. He talked shit on Crail and Stevie lashed out at him while he was fucked up (on alcohol at the very least). Stevie then lied for damage control to justify his behavior/vocabulary.

The fact that Stevie called himself a legend shows that it was about the Ted’s Crail diss. He definitely takes pride in Lakai/Chocolate. Good for him?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Get the strap on November 14, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
Slop, good point on of course he would reply, that's what he does. Agree. That still doesn't say anything good about him.

Pidgeon, I didn't read the exchange as you, Stevie calling himself a legend, but I read it as Stevie sarcastically calling the other guy a legend. That's how I read it...but I've made my point, I know his Instagram fans are gonna win the argument.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: no life on November 15, 2018, 12:25:38 AM
Slop, good point on of course he would reply, that's what he does. Agree. That still doesn't say anything good about him.

Pidgeon, I didn't read the exchange as you, Stevie calling himself a legend, but I read it as Stevie sarcastically calling the other guy a legend. That's how I read it...but I've made my point, I know his Instagram fans are gonna win the argument.
get the strap of Critical Thinking and on Anyone That Disagrees With Me is a Feedback TS Fan
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DannyDee on November 15, 2018, 02:15:12 AM
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Someone explain to me how arguing with an obviously drunk dude, posting it online without his consent, THEN trying to flip it on some moral shit is not some self-congratulatory pompus bullshit.

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I didn't realize that if you're drunk while doing something stupid you get to be excused from accountability. This is awesome news!
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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You shouldn't expect privacy rights randomly messaging someone you don't know over Instagram, especially when you are talking shit to them in that manner. If you do expect privacy doing that, you are an idiot. This isn't like a phone conversation where in most cases recording it, it is two-party consent.

I do find it funny though how immediately after Stevie does this though he becomes washed up and not good. Look, there are a bunch of idiots in this world, but that doesn't mean even if you think someone is an asshole you can't respect their talent in a certain field.
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I completely agree, especially with that last talent part. But that's a concept a lot of people here don't understand or don't want to hear about anymore. You're with us or against us is all the rage these days.
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you need to be a decent human as well in order to be admired and respected. yes, no one is perfect, there is trial and error in life, and there is failure and the need for second chances. but we also need to stop propelling awful humans to the top of their "certain field" and allowing them to remain there bc of their talent/success alone—no one should get a pass! there is a societal need to give people a rough awakening in order to effect change, because it hasn't been done in the past. there's been too much slap on the wrist bullshit on this earth already. ppl need to get that if you're lacking morally and ethically you're a no-go, change is needed or you're off to the sidelines.

if there is no backlash and stevie continues to be respected bc of his skateboarding, he might continue to call himself a g, and send the message that anyone can do this. if he doesn't change, he will unfortunately be a detriment to pursuing an equal and respectful society :( who you are as a person needs to be a bigger part of it...
I'm not saying people have to buy his product or financially support him. Look, you can say what you want about using the power of mob mentality to change people. Stevie Perez may be a drunk asshole, and an idiot. That doesn't stop him from being talented on a skateboard, he's just an asshole whose talented on a skateboard. You don't have to idolize him or look up to him, but to immediately dismiss someones skill because you don't agree with their actions is ridiculous.

OJ may be a slimeball wife murdering piece of shit, but he was still a great RB.

If you think Stevie is a wack person and you don't want to support him financially by buying his products? Fine, that's your perogative. But, if you liked his skating a week ago, and now think he's washed up and not good because of instagram comment, I think that's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: LegitDude on November 15, 2018, 02:16:46 AM
What if Stevie was like "you're gay, Ted"? Would that still be as bad?
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Post by: mclovin1336 on November 15, 2018, 03:38:40 AM
it's not illegal to be homophobic. if someone is homophobic but causes 0 harm to homosexuals it really isn't a problem. how triggered are you rn? if you want to live in a society where every citizen is forced to hold certain beliefs, get the fuck out of NA, fast. we like freedom here.

i would recommend you to read up on something called the tolerance paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance for starters).
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Post by: LegitDude on November 15, 2018, 05:44:17 AM
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it's not illegal to be homophobic. if someone is homophobic but causes 0 harm to homosexuals it really isn't a problem. how triggered are you rn? if you want to live in a society where every citizen is forced to hold certain beliefs, get the fuck out of NA, fast. we like freedom here.
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i would recommend you to read up on something called the tolerance paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance for starters).

" I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise."
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Pigeon on November 15, 2018, 06:38:53 AM
Pidgeon, I didn't read the exchange as you, Stevie calling himself a legend, but I read it as Stevie sarcastically calling the other guy a legend. That's how I read it...but I've made my point, I know his Instagram fans are gonna win the argument.
Edit: You were right about the legend part but he was going on about how he’s a g.

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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
y'all aint doing nothing about it
lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.
The only proof of anyone saying racist shit is Stevie saying, “Look at your president,” to a Canadian dude.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: cloudy on November 15, 2018, 07:41:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/klN8rRP.jpg)
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Post by: chipped tail on November 15, 2018, 07:59:35 AM
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Pidgeon, I didn't read the exchange as you, Stevie calling himself a legend, but I read it as Stevie sarcastically calling the other guy a legend. That's how I read it...but I've made my point, I know his Instagram fans are gonna win the argument.
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"look at your president
Trump
he's a homophobic
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lol"

who tf is "y'all"?

Stevie Perez on Rocket Science confirmed
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"Some of my best friends are a homophobic."
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He clearly meant to use "a" as a prefix... Ahomophobic - meaning not homophobic. As in, Ted should impeach trump via instagram for not being homophobic.
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I've recently heard the expression "your President" coming from the Latino community. If you guys don't understand the policies and hatred right now, then there's no wonder you guys are coming with pitchforks at Stevie for calling white privledge feedback tm a faggot...AFTER feedback tm apparently said racist shit, talked shit on Chocolate and Stevie. There's lots of people, not just the LGBT community being threatened by the President, but you guys are saying the guy with many more followers on IG, white privledge narcissistic kook cyber bully is the victim. Wow. Whatever...
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So what I spelled privileged wrong. None of you have proved feedback is even homosexual, so you guys are all worked up about a straight guy calling another straight guy a faggot. And the guy was rude to Stevie in the first place before such word was even said, and Stevie has apologized a couple times already. And that guy you're claiming is skateboarding satire, is really just a metrogrammed roast account targeted at the demographic obsessed with metrogrammed. Roasting is roasting, different than satire. Lame all around.
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yeah youre so right bro my bad..... hes not even gay so its okay to say slurs
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Don't accuse me of saying its ok to use slurs. I said the opposite earlier in the thread. You and many others are saying Stevie is a hateful person, and feedback is not. I'm saying feedback is...look how much hatred he stirred up. Stevie spamming him on dms...simple solution don't reply and block, and feedback engaged instead. Feedback is a bully, Stevie is not.
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The only proof of anyone saying racist shit is Stevie saying, “Look at your president,” to a Canadian dude.
He tried to use "white voy" as in insult. kinda racist.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jerkstore on November 15, 2018, 09:08:24 AM
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it's not illegal to be homophobic. if someone is homophobic but causes 0 harm to homosexuals it really isn't a problem. how triggered are you rn? if you want to live in a society where every citizen is forced to hold certain beliefs, get the fuck out of NA, fast. we like freedom here.
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i would recommend you to read up on something called the tolerance paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance for starters).

This is notion is so regular, it actually gave me a headache trying to figure out why you thought this would be a clever thing to post
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: GAY on November 15, 2018, 09:12:47 AM
What if Stevie was like "you're gay, Ted"? Would that still be as bad?

Context is everything. Also, in no context is the word "gay" considered as insulting as the word "faggot". Kind of like how in no context is the word "vagina" considered as offensive as the word "cunt". That's why the words "faggot" and "cunt" exist.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: S. on November 15, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
I think homophobia and racism are not really rational political believes. Most people have some racist or homophobic reflexes or tendencies. I know I am automatically a bit scared of bearded muslims on the underground even though consciously I know the guy is probably harmless. I also always think black people wearing colorful hippster clothes should know better. I want them to look cool like all the rappers I admire so much.

The reflex of calling out people as racist or homophobic and automatically wanting to banish them from society I think is an aggressive reaction against one's own racism and homophobia. I am accusing and banishing all the gay haters and racists therefore I cannot be racist myself! The mob justice mentallity sucks.

Anyway, Stevie Perez might be an asshole and he should not call people faggots. I don't think he will be able to learn that, though if you want to immediately banish him from skating, jusr to make yourself feel better about yourself and the activity you identify with. Talk to the guy, maybe he is just an idiot who can learn to be a better person. Or avoid him because you think he's an asshole.
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Post by: nopes on November 15, 2018, 10:04:15 AM
I think homophobia and racism are not really rational political believes. Most people have some racist or homophobic reflexes or tendencies. I know I am automatically a bit scared of bearded muslims on the underground even though consciously I know the guy is probably harmless. I also always think black people wearing colorful hippster clothes should know better. I want them to look cool like all the rappers I admire so much.

The reflex of calling out people as racist or homophobic and automatically wanting to banish them from society I think is an aggressive reaction against one's own racism and homophobia. I am accusing and banishing all the gay haters and racists therefore I cannot be racist myself! The mob justice mentallity sucks.

Anyway, Stevie Perez might be an asshole and he should not call people faggots. I don't think he will be able to learn that, though if you want to immediately banish him from skating, jusr to make yourself feel better about yourself and the activity you identify with. Talk to the guy, maybe he is just an idiot who can learn to be a better person. Or avoid him because you think he's an asshole.

I agree with you for the most part but I don’t think many people are calling for his banishment. Most people are saying he is an asshole or making excuses for him to use that language.

I’m curious what you think the consequences for using hateful languages should be.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jehoshaphat Augustus on November 15, 2018, 11:35:03 AM
The context in which it is used, was to aggravate Ted in a very shallow way, it didnt work because Ted probably has encountered this treatment before. Probably recently.

Furthermore you cant deny that it is within a drunk heterosexual skateboarders wheelhouse to fire that hateful word off so flagrantly

On a hetero to hetero basis, saying "Faggot" to someone you dont know communicates "I want to fight you/see you harmed/moved away from me...your presence is rebukeable"

If Ted was a known homosexual this shit would be a different story
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Post by: S. on November 15, 2018, 12:10:39 PM
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I think homophobia and racism are not really rational political believes. Most people have some racist or homophobic reflexes or tendencies. I know I am automatically a bit scared of bearded muslims on the underground even though consciously I know the guy is probably harmless. I also always think black people wearing colorful hippster clothes should know better. I want them to look cool like all the rappers I admire so much.

The reflex of calling out people as racist or homophobic and automatically wanting to banish them from society I think is an aggressive reaction against one's own racism and homophobia. I am accusing and banishing all the gay haters and racists therefore I cannot be racist myself! The mob justice mentallity sucks.

Anyway, Stevie Perez might be an asshole and he should not call people faggots. I don't think he will be able to learn that, though if you want to immediately banish him from skating, jusr to make yourself feel better about yourself and the activity you identify with. Talk to the guy, maybe he is just an idiot who can learn to be a better person. Or avoid him because you think he's an asshole.
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I agree with you for the most part but I don’t think many people are calling for his banishment. Most people are saying he is an asshole or making excuses for him to use that language.

I’m curious what you think the consequences for using hateful languages should be.

You should definitely be critcized, but you shouldn't be automatically ostracized. If you cause a crime or harm someone directly that is a different story of course. I also think it is fine to call out people for being racist or homophobic. Calling for people to get fired or banned from speaking, because they have said something racist is counterproductive in my oppinion. Words are an expression of racism not its cause.

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Another thing he could steal from Tas Pappas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj_8qF6lKWU
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: DannyDee on November 15, 2018, 01:08:58 PM
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I think homophobia and racism are not really rational political believes. Most people have some racist or homophobic reflexes or tendencies. I know I am automatically a bit scared of bearded muslims on the underground even though consciously I know the guy is probably harmless. I also always think black people wearing colorful hippster clothes should know better. I want them to look cool like all the rappers I admire so much.

The reflex of calling out people as racist or homophobic and automatically wanting to banish them from society I think is an aggressive reaction against one's own racism and homophobia. I am accusing and banishing all the gay haters and racists therefore I cannot be racist myself! The mob justice mentallity sucks.

Anyway, Stevie Perez might be an asshole and he should not call people faggots. I don't think he will be able to learn that, though if you want to immediately banish him from skating, jusr to make yourself feel better about yourself and the activity you identify with. Talk to the guy, maybe he is just an idiot who can learn to be a better person. Or avoid him because you think he's an asshole.
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I agree with you for the most part but I don’t think many people are calling for his banishment. Most people are saying he is an asshole or making excuses for him to use that language.

I’m curious what you think the consequences for using hateful languages should be.
In Stevie's case? If Crailtap thinks what he has done has damaged their brand they are free to drop him. And, consumers who are offended are free to stop buying his or the brand he represents products in protest. Outside of that, and people telling him it was a bad idea, I don't think much.

But, let's not get it twisted, it is not like he was using his platform to promote hate speech. He appeared to get liquored up and talk shit to an Instagram personality through DM's who then posted the convo (which is within Ted's rights) and used an offensive but common insult.

Now, if you want to talk about people who actually use hate speech in a public forum, that insight actual violence or workplace discrimination? That's a different story. Although, trying to balance that with free speech is a weird balance. But, people like that should generally be fired due to how badly they represent who they work for, and free-speech is to save you from unfair prosecution, it doesn't give you the freedom to say whatever you want and expect to be employed.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Juicyboy on November 15, 2018, 05:45:10 PM
Ted commented on an African skater saying his dress sense was 'wack even for an african'. Entitled smug white man bullying minorities and exposing them online. Needs to log off!! lol
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 15, 2018, 06:57:15 PM
Ted commented on an African skater saying his dress sense was 'wack even for an african'. Entitled smug white man bullying minorities and exposing them online. Needs to log off!! lol


to be fair, it was the kente cloth version of stephen lawyer's multi-camo pants
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: kid casserole on November 16, 2018, 04:10:24 AM
So this Ted guy...his Instagram is Feedback TS?  That's all I'd know of him for in skateboarding?   Hmmm...I can take funny judge acct like that and appreciate some shitty content if it's done well...not a fan of posting of a message But don,t really care...you said it...it's there ...I wouldn't share but whatever.  For me,what grosses me out is that goddamned smarmy patronizing we all say Things we wish we hadn't lesson he taught combined with the 4 alarm craving for attention that makes me about 95% or so sure that I don't like this dude and most certainly would want to see some eyewitness proof that Stevie is a complete dickhead before writing him off on a few message board comments that very well may have been true but could also be a handful of shitty days, check was $300 less than expected, dumped,injured, pet died, etc...  I don't know, Stevie reminds of the kids I skated with and this guy reminds me of a kid that skated and was also a know it all arrogant shit who said it about so and so...and def says it about you.  Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe Ted is a great friend and Stevie a Rhodes scholar.  Ted seem s like a shit tho.  Glad he got his attention, Stevie, don,t drink so much, you want to be light on your feet...not a big fatass it's hard to skate when you get large and even harder than skating fat is losing the weight the older you get...I'm fat and hair is thinning. The fuck is up with that.  If I read "you quit" one more time I'll eat this whole fucking pizza.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: louie the taurus on November 16, 2018, 04:22:49 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
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You don't get it. You're still talking to me like i'm trying to defend him or something.
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I'm just checking the context before burning people to the ground. You should try it it's called justice.

Just like you checked the context before talking about "Ben Kadow dressing like a nazi" in public?
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Post by: Manolo on November 16, 2018, 05:02:55 AM
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If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I don't see the issue.
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Me neither, the word was commonly used with a wide range of meanings and forced apologies dont mean shit.
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Who fucking cares if the word was commonly used at one point? Who fucking cares about a "range of meanings" when one of the meanings (and the most commonly accepted definition) is used to belittle and deprecate an entire demographic? Was Stevie writing a period piece? Is he totally unaware of the existence of the LGBTQ community in 2018? Is it okay for him to start saying the N word as well, as long as it's in private, or if it just doesn't have enough context? Jesus fucking christ.
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You don't get it. You're still talking to me like i'm trying to defend him or something.
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There's no excuse it's just that it was a private conversation, i doubt he would have said the same shit publicly, i agree that it sucked anyhow but Ted in today's climate putting this shit live.. knowing the guy can loose his career over it idk. Accountability over someone's private chat? If it's about the word faggot and you would go in the private phone history of every actual skaters in the industry 95% would have to start typing apologies.
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I'm just checking the context before burning people to the ground. You should try it it's called justice.
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Just like you checked the context before talking about "Ben Kadow dressing like a nazi" in public?

Yes.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Jerkstore on November 16, 2018, 07:40:03 AM
Ted commented on an African skater saying his dress sense was 'wack even for an african'. Entitled smug white man bullying minorities and exposing them online. Needs to log off!! lol

lol

ted is such an unbelievable cunt, whatever "joke" or "irony" he desperately clamours to in his vids is bleached by the overwhelming smugness and disdain for skateboarding he has

"would you like to discuss your usage of the word african?"
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: georgethecat on November 16, 2018, 10:30:44 AM
So this Ted guy...his Instagram is Feedback TS?  That's all I'd know of him for in skateboarding?   Hmmm...I can take funny judge acct like that and appreciate some shitty content if it's done well...not a fan of posting of a message But don,t really care...you said it...it's there ...I wouldn't share but whatever.  For me,what grosses me out is that goddamned smarmy patronizing we all say Things we wish we hadn't lesson he taught combined with the 4 alarm craving for attention that makes me about 95% or so sure that I don't like this dude and most certainly would want to see some eyewitness proof that Stevie is a complete dickhead before writing him off on a few message board comments that very well may have been true but could also be a handful of shitty days, check was $300 less than expected, dumped,injured, pet died, etc...  I don't know, Stevie reminds of the kids I skated with and this guy reminds me of a kid that skated and was also a know it all arrogant shit who said it about so and so...and def says it about you.  Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe Ted is a great friend and Stevie a Rhodes scholar.  Ted seem s like a shit tho.  Glad he got his attention, Stevie, don,t drink so much, you want to be light on your feet...not a big fatass it's hard to skate when you get large and even harder than skating fat is losing the weight the older you get...I'm fat and hair is thinning. The fuck is up with that.  If I read "you quit" one more time I'll eat this whole fucking pizza.

I did not order the word salad. In fact, I never order the word salad. But here I am, eating the word salad.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: kid casserole on November 16, 2018, 04:07:33 PM
I made a bunch of salads last night...I'm the culprit.  I was admittedly a bit manic last night.  Thing is though, not everyone disliked my salads and I shared them with the best of intentions.  I don't think they're all that bad either.  I'm sure you'll run across a few others.  Anyways, I say try em with a open mind.  George, try the one in the Denny Pham post.  People seem to enjoy that salad.  Maybe it's the dressing.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Szechuan on November 16, 2018, 07:47:58 PM
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These are not actual screens of ted saying racist shit though..
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hmm... ted looks like a prick, wouldn't put it past him

dudes hella ugly and smug
Smugly.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Surf-goth on November 20, 2018, 04:58:07 AM
Stevie rules in fact i just bought the flaco shoe. I barely know who this ted character is due to SLAP. Apparently some internet personality? I hate youtubers or any viral lame-asses. So corny and all they do is talk to a camera and they usually appeal to idiots. I'll bet stevie doesn't hate gay people though it's just a word people have been using forever in the way south park explained it. In reality words don't mean shit unless they are said with hatred. Some people are politely racist oddly enough.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: feedmeseymour on November 20, 2018, 05:19:35 AM
Stevie rules in fact i just bought the flaco shoe. I barely know who this ted character is due to SLAP. Apparently some internet personality? I hate youtubers or any viral lame-asses. So corny and all they do is talk to a camera and they usually appeal to idiots. I'll bet stevie doesn't hate gay people though it's just a word people have been using forever in the way south park explained it. In reality words don't mean shit unless they are said with hatred. Some people are politely racist oddly enough.

i imagine stevie was at the warehouse like this when that order came in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzlQWCdAkgo
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Tortoise on November 20, 2018, 08:39:14 AM
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Stevie rules in fact i just bought the flaco shoe. I barely know who this ted character is due to SLAP. Apparently some internet personality? I hate youtubers or any viral lame-asses. So corny and all they do is talk to a camera and they usually appeal to idiots. I'll bet stevie doesn't hate gay people though it's just a word people have been using forever in the way south park explained it. In reality words don't mean shit unless they are said with hatred. Some people are politely racist oddly enough.
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i imagine stevie was at the warehouse like this when that order came in
https://youtu.be/iFmNyxni-0A
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Surf-goth on November 20, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
I don't care what you people say I'm supporting lakai til the end.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: plod on November 20, 2018, 01:47:54 PM
In my oh so valuable opinion Stevie and crailtap should give zero fucks about this. The idea he should loose his job or even be reprimanded seems rediculous. And for the record I like Ted's humour and his skate output in the mid 2000 era. The positive in this is Stevie focused his Instagram account. I wish I could do the same. Seems like a non event to me and I'm supprised you all have your knickers in a twist about it.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: mell0w_type on November 24, 2018, 03:23:44 AM
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it's not illegal to be homophobic. if someone is homophobic but causes 0 harm to homosexuals it really isn't a problem. how triggered are you rn? if you want to live in a society where every citizen is forced to hold certain beliefs, get the fuck out of NA, fast. we like freedom here.
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i would recommend you to read up on something called the tolerance paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance for starters).

lol, no
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Seadramon on November 24, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
I don't care what you people say I'm supporting lakai til the end.

Spoken like a true goth
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: gaunting on November 25, 2018, 02:27:43 AM
who the fuck is Stevie Perez???
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: verylowimpact on November 25, 2018, 10:43:40 AM
Fuck em both.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: De La Sole on June 11, 2020, 11:43:34 AM
just in time for the release of his t-shirt company?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/)
(https://i.imgur.com/1ldJop0.png)
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Atiba Applebum on June 11, 2020, 11:54:06 AM
just in time for the release of his t-shirt company?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/)
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Anyone remember the border jumper part?   
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: SAH ALL DAY on June 11, 2020, 11:56:44 AM
Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
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Post by: thebacker on June 11, 2020, 12:03:06 PM
Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
he lost his job because people reported his account to the people he worked for.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Garnet on June 11, 2020, 12:10:44 PM
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Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
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this is one of the big reasons i dont have a job
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: PincherBug on June 11, 2020, 12:13:30 PM
Proudly made in the beautiful San Fernando Valley?

Send me 10
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Post by: ducky darnsworth on June 11, 2020, 01:48:45 PM
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Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
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this is one of the big reasons i dont have a job
the revenge of the park sharks
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: SAH ALL DAY on June 11, 2020, 01:54:15 PM
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Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
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he lost his job because people reported his account to the people he worked for.

Yeah I think it was random wasn't it? But my memory is getting confused. I swear there was an instance when he had to apologise about dissing someone and it was a big deal?
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: De La Sole on June 11, 2020, 02:08:58 PM
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Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
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Yeah I think it was random wasn't it? But my memory is getting confused. I swear there was an instance when he had to apologise about dissing someone and it was a big deal?

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If I recall correctly this whole thing started with Ted somewhat aggressively defending his controversial(see the ten pages of comments) opinion piece on Jenkem http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2019/01/07/skateboarding-not-art/ (http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2019/01/07/skateboarding-not-art/) and has less to do with @feedback_ts than him being a person in the art world telling skateboarders that they aren't artists.
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I don’t know what’s going on at all.. but whoever the person is that said skateboarders ARE NOT artists, that’s my hero. Hearing people my whole life try to say skating is an art form/way of life and that skateboarders are artists.. shit drove me nuts how dumb and irrelevant of a comparison that is. Glad I’m not the only one that see it that way. A skateboard is a toy, not a paintbrush
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You sound like everyone I went to art school with.
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Yeah, basically the stokemuch guy tried to write a rebuttal piece on why skateboarding is art, Jenkem denied it and Ted basically kept aggressively defending his point of view rather than engaging in a back and forth conversation with the guy from stokemuch or any of the other people in the 10 pages of comments on his piece.

If you're going to just tell people they don't know anything about art and you're right and you aren't willing to discuss with anyone to hear their points of view you shouldn't be publishing opinion pieces. that inflexibility is a terrible trait to have as a curator or person working in an official capacity in the art world and when his employers were made aware of his methods of talking about art with the public they weren't stoked.

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Anybody know the details around him losing his "PHD status" job over feedback_ts? So hilarious.
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You can't lose PHD status outside of maybe having committed blatent fraud/cheating to achieve it. You either have it or you don't. Now, you can get fired for cause if you have tenure from teaching or not have your contract renewed. I mean, he should still have his PHD. He just may not be employed in that field.
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He had a job that normally would require a PHD whilst in his last phase of attaining his PHD. There was too much squawking about his social media and left his employer in a position where his employment was untenable.
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Hombreezy on June 11, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
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Feedback TS was the worst. Didn't he have a couple controversial things? I can't remember except he almost lost his job or something for something he said online.
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Yeah I think it was random wasn't it? But my memory is getting confused. I swear there was an instance when he had to apologise about dissing someone and it was a big deal?
No theres that other kook skateboarding repost account that was beefing with Ted and made up a ton of baseless accusations to Teds work which got him fired. Somone plz remind of the border hopping part, I feel like Stevie is trying to elicit tears from the racist cancel train right now. Also it’s such a fake apology if you can’t just man up and say you fucked up without justifying it on something the other person did. Fuck Stevie Perez
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Post by: De La Sole on June 11, 2020, 03:30:05 PM
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just in time for the release of his t-shirt company?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/)
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Anyone remember the border jumper part?

ted’s side of the story. so stevie made up the part about “border hopping mexicans”?

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTdpjPF3Sg/?igshid=1rfmxpyuguxjc (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTdpjPF3Sg/?igshid=1rfmxpyuguxjc)
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Post by: figureitout on June 11, 2020, 03:42:52 PM
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just in time for the release of his t-shirt company?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTXhSdFDhK/)
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Anyone remember the border jumper part?

No I don't remember seeing that as part of it nor do i think it's something Ted would have said, it doesn't sound right to my memory of that at all. He's a little too intelligent to think or attack racially imo, i do remember him calling Stevie a loser.

 I think this is fishy and just Stevie addressing it due to the current climate, and his teammate scumbag Biebel's current situation. The timing lines up oh so well for the release of his Clothing company

i agree "I feel like Stevie is trying to elicit tears from the racist cancel train right now" by adding a part that was not said
Title: Re: Stevie Perez vs feedback_ts
Post by: Tracersbuttbuddy on June 11, 2020, 04:11:15 PM
Stevie is easily the dumbest skater ever. Dude is full person and has 2 brain cells left and the 1 cell just chases the other one around all day playing tag
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Post by: michael scarn on June 11, 2020, 05:53:11 PM
I'm almost sure that ted never said anything about stevie or his friends being border hoppers. Ted's better than that. And I certainly hope ted doesn't respond to this bullshit.