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Title: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 22, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
i used to own several pairs around 1995-96.

i'll venmo whoever knows what they are (link and quote) for TEN FRIGGIN BEANTH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp_vOLB-OUE&t=34m30s

PS don't waste your time google "NIKE 1995" shit ain't there.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: MaitlandPrivado on January 22, 2019, 04:30:25 PM
Are you interested in shoes he wore in Goldfish or Mouse?
Title: Re: mariano MOUSE -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 22, 2019, 05:26:20 PM
Are you interested in shoes he wore in Goldfish or Mouse?

kooked myself i meant MOUSE specifically. really busy design nikes but resemble some of the newer react 87's.

chin chin if you know (reward still applicable)
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: johnes on January 22, 2019, 05:40:11 PM
Try contacting Guy on Instagram.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 23, 2019, 05:23:57 PM
Try contacting Guy on Instagram.

just checked his account and cringed. i'll give it a go.

completely random shoes and judging by the "drug addict" days probably just threw them on and went to town.

the nollie frontside flip in the sheeps was the best ever done in a line, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Global Moderator on January 23, 2019, 06:36:53 PM
I always thought they were the ACG Wildwood... could be wrong though.

(https://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/c_limit,w_680/fl_lossy,pg_1,q_auto/qmgrowsfwak8unnhmthx.jpg)
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: puff daddy on January 25, 2019, 12:24:20 AM
I always thought they were the ACG Wildwood... could be wrong though.

(https://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/c_limit,w_680/fl_lossy,pg_1,q_auto/qmgrowsfwak8unnhmthx.jpg)

they just re released these oddly enough
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on January 25, 2019, 08:32:00 AM
Those Wildwoods do look kinda similar, but I feel like the ones Mariano is wearing are more dad tech. Definitely just look like some random dad runner to me and not a good heritage model but I could be wrong.

Either way I would really like to know as well. That part has the best shoe selection of any pro part ever. So crazy he was just skating whatever he wanted that whole part.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: finecojeffe on January 25, 2019, 09:15:03 AM
timestamp it so we can see what youre asking about. If ACG and like wildwood, other ones are the lava dome that are kind of similar.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 26, 2019, 07:24:02 AM
timestamp it so we can see what youre asking about. If ACG and like wildwood, other ones are the lava dome that are kind of similar.

34:30

Definitely more dad tech but sort of resemble the react 87s everyone is creaming about recently.

Narrow tapered toe. There was a white pair with some gum sole elements with green accents that were ill. The ones guy has are the more charcoal accented version. Given the height of the heel area they aren't exactly ideal to skate in which makes that clip even sicker.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on January 26, 2019, 12:19:45 PM
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timestamp it so we can see what youre asking about. If ACG and like wildwood, other ones are the lava dome that are kind of similar.
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34:30

Definitely more dad tech but sort of resemble the react 87s everyone is creaming about recently.

Narrow tapered toe. There was a white pair with some gum sole elements with green accents that were ill. The ones guy has are the more charcoal accented version. Given the height of the heel area they aren't exactly ideal to skate in which makes that clip even sicker.

Are you 100% they are nike's?
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 26, 2019, 05:13:40 PM
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timestamp it so we can see what youre asking about. If ACG and like wildwood, other ones are the lava dome that are kind of similar.
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34:30

Definitely more dad tech but sort of resemble the react 87s everyone is creaming about recently.

Narrow tapered toe. There was a white pair with some gum sole elements with green accents that were ill. The ones guy has are the more charcoal accented version. Given the height of the heel area they aren't exactly ideal to skate in which makes that clip even sicker.
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Are you 100% they are nike's?

100%. thought they could be aisics or another misc brand but confirmed through everyone that had/wanted them they are definitely nikes.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: skylarking on January 26, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
always thought they were reebok at the time. had a silhouette similar to the preseasons, but the sole looks like a graphlite sole that reebok used in the mid 90s.  Totally could be nike, but seems like they are missing most of the staple elements of the swoosh
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 27, 2019, 07:48:08 AM
swoosh was DL for sure but I can see how that would dissuade convincing they were Nike's.

i came up short on google images, is there an official or third party archive of all Nike's released by year?

i'd be willing to dig deep because they might be floating around on eBay. 
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: CINCINNATI on January 27, 2019, 10:59:13 AM
hit up Sean Wotherspoon on instagram.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Arto Saari on January 27, 2019, 11:10:40 AM
Here are all the shots of the shoe and a drawing I made loosely based on what I can see. Cant tell if its a running shoe or more of a hiking shoe..
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zsz-dbfa2990-cb3e-459c-b845-128f03109b81.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zto-882b3d28-3996-4b98-97cb-8b6068e5fb61.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zth-d56da713-a0f0-40a8-8257-b3802b152a1d.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zsv-b8097a5a-5deb-46a0-b876-745c9a3ae86d.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zsl-8398e098-0224-47ea-8b5e-aaad0c22a40d.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy6kyj-770b2bc3-e36b-4bc6-99ba-a02372456225.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy6kgx-7bc3ba68-e6ce-49f9-8680-908efc644eba.jpg/v1/fill/w_935,h_854,q_70,strp/20190127_125732_by_sk8prick_dcy6kgx-pre.jpg)

Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on January 27, 2019, 11:31:12 AM
Here are all the shots of the shoe and a drawing I made loosely based on what I can see. Cant tell if its a running shoe or more of a hiking shoe..
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zsz-dbfa2990-cb3e-459c-b845-128f03109b81.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zto-882b3d28-3996-4b98-97cb-8b6068e5fb61.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zth-d56da713-a0f0-40a8-8257-b3802b152a1d.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zsv-b8097a5a-5deb-46a0-b876-745c9a3ae86d.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy2zsl-8398e098-0224-47ea-8b5e-aaad0c22a40d.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy6kyj-770b2bc3-e36b-4bc6-99ba-a02372456225.jpg)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcy6kgx-7bc3ba68-e6ce-49f9-8680-908efc644eba.jpg/v1/fill/w_935,h_854,q_70,strp/20190127_125732_by_sk8prick_dcy6kgx-pre.jpg)

Now I know who you are!!  ;) not the shoes tho... I wish I had a nike catalog archive to dig into!
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Arto Saari on January 27, 2019, 11:43:29 AM
I have more than one account on here. You'll never know who I am ;D
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 27, 2019, 02:56:38 PM
I have more than one account on here. You'll never know who I am ;D

Holy shit man -- I gotta take my hat off to this effort! That is pretty much them design wise spot on, and those screen grabs were shit quality to build off of. Really impressive.

The material above the central "fist" shaped portion with the swoosh was a mesh but not the translucent kind, as well as the inner toe portion (not cap).

They would be categorized as "cross trainers" or a runner, not a hiker as the shoe itself was malleable and didn't have that rigid foundation a lot of hikers are supported on.

Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on January 28, 2019, 08:34:22 AM
Woah that's a good drawing. Obviously this will never happen but how sick would it be if Nike came out with a version of it for Mariano now that he rides for Nike?
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Bagelskate on January 28, 2019, 09:26:49 AM
Woah that's a good drawing. Obviously this will never happen but how sick would it be if Nike came out with a version of it for Mariano now that he rides for Nike?

If enough people bother Nike about it, they’d do it.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Donald Rump on January 28, 2019, 10:01:34 PM
I have more than one account on here. You'll never know who I am ;D

Rad drawing of the shoe man, awesome effort you put in identifying this shoe.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: johnes on January 29, 2019, 07:55:14 AM
Woah that's a good drawing. Obviously this will never happen but how sick would it be if Nike came out with a version of it for Mariano now that he rides for Nike?
ATTENTION NIKE EMPLOYESS LURKERS
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on January 29, 2019, 08:33:19 AM
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Woah that's a good drawing. Obviously this will never happen but how sick would it be if Nike came out with a version of it for Mariano now that he rides for Nike?
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If enough people bother Nike about it, they’d do it.

Disagree. Also how you gonna find enough people to bother Nike about that?
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Allen. on January 29, 2019, 08:34:16 AM
Every time I think I figure it out, I come back to this thread and remember what these actually look like.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Bagelskate on January 29, 2019, 09:38:43 AM
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Woah that's a good drawing. Obviously this will never happen but how sick would it be if Nike came out with a version of it for Mariano now that he rides for Nike?
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If enough people bother Nike about it, they’d do it.
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Disagree. Also how you gonna find enough people to bother Nike about that?

I get why you’d disagree. My reasoning is everyone seems to be cashing in on the retro look recently. If it had a decent following and maybe some celebrity posted about it on socials, I could see it happening. However remote a chance all of that comes about.

Considering Guy isn’t really known outside of skating and there isn’t even a name to place what shoe it is on this thread, it probably won’t happen.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Technique on January 29, 2019, 10:19:37 AM
From what I can see in the pictures, the outsole is definitely Nike air. And it probably is a cross training type shoe. There’s a shit ton of highly similar cross training shoes from the period with smaller swooshes and squiggly linework though, so determining the exact model is next to impossible. I’ve just spent 2 hours looking at whatever catalog excerpts I could find and I haven’t really gotten that much closer. There are a couple databases, but most of them don’t go farther than 2002. If there’s someone who might have the print versions of older catalogs, that would help a lot.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Arto Saari on January 29, 2019, 02:37:53 PM
Ive spent a decent amount of time looking on google under various search terms, old eastbay catalogs from this time period, ebay etc. cant find them anywhere. These must be really obscure. The closest thing I found was this 'nike zoom alpha' shoe from 1996(?) the paneling on the side looks similar but the rest of the shoe is completely different.. at this point I'm just gonna wait for the day that I randomly stumble upon the shoes and say to myself "Holy sh*t! Thats the shoe from the slap thread!"
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/1561e105-a821-4ca1-9c12-3f20cb58291a/dcydghh-8fbbb660-f85c-4ad6-9963-d395e7c91b7c.jpg/v1/fill/w_800,h_506,q_70,strp/air_zoom_alpha_1996_1_native_1600_by_sk8prick_dcydghh-fullview.jpg)
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Nth syd bear on January 29, 2019, 08:00:52 PM
Interesting.. Nikes cross trainers lines had some pretty obscure sneakers in 90’s
I’ve tried to look for several I had to no prevail.

Surley someone can weigh in on this

Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: DCLOVE on January 29, 2019, 10:21:42 PM
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Woah that's a good drawing. Obviously this will never happen but how sick would it be if Nike came out with a version of it for Mariano now that he rides for Nike?
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If enough people bother Nike about it, they’d do it.
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Disagree. Also how you gonna find enough people to bother Nike about that?
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I get why you’d disagree. My reasoning is everyone seems to be cashing in on the retro look recently. If it had a decent following and maybe some celebrity posted about it on socials, I could see it happening. However remote a chance all of that comes about.

Considering Guy isn’t really known outside of skating and there isn’t even a name to place what shoe it is on this thread, it probably won’t happen.

Nike’s more concerned with the AirMax and anything using that tech for their retro shoes. Dad trend will die this year anyway. And Nike’s not about to try and compete and then have the target consumers lose interest like they did with boost. They’re just using Sean wortherspoon and Virgil Abloh to dictate trends at the moment. But it kind of looks like dunks are coming back so that’s good.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on January 30, 2019, 08:28:17 AM
Fuck it I'm gonna get Mariano's email. Doubt he'll remember the name but it's worth a try.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Technique on January 30, 2019, 10:17:04 AM
Fuck it I'm gonna get Mariano's email. Doubt he'll remember the name but it's worth a try.
Thank you sir. You’ve relieved me of this 2-day long itch of finding out what the fuck these shoes are. Hopefully he’s got at least a half-definitive answer.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: freddiethreepwood on January 30, 2019, 12:27:54 PM
Possibly Nike Air Humara or Nike Air Terra Humara. These aren't the right colour but kinda look right to me.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Allen. on January 30, 2019, 01:17:23 PM
Nike Air Terra Humara

That was my guess that I referred to.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Silver on January 30, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3cpZVYc.png)
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: freddiethreepwood on January 30, 2019, 02:15:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3cpZVYc.png)

Crazy. Nike Air Ketchikan is the one.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Buck Russell on January 30, 2019, 03:27:40 PM
best thread in years. thank you.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Silver on January 30, 2019, 03:36:58 PM
Terra Outback.  Now unban my ip mods.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Arto Saari on January 30, 2019, 05:00:54 PM
best thread in years. thank you.

Pretty exciting indeed. I don't know what to do with my time anymore
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Mystical Leader on January 31, 2019, 02:06:07 AM
best thread in years. thank you.

Do we have the correct answer?

Are there any other mystery shoes to look for?
There was that one guy from spirit quest who skated bunch of random shoes who may have had some interesting ones.. But from a time where people mostly skated shoes that weren't meant for skateboarding
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on January 31, 2019, 02:57:19 AM
Hyped that we have a answer now! Arto Saari aka sketchythedawg deserves those gnars for the effort he made (and also follow his instagram for some sick shoe sketches)! The sketch he made is fairly similar to the actual shoe and those reference screenshots were pretty bad!

Mystical Leader, the other day Sportsclass posted this clip asking what shoe was this and I spent like a morning scrolling though catalogs and archive pics to find the shoe. ahah
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeDK1J6hSWf/

I ended up finding it, it's the adidas torsion training from 94. It doesnt even come up in google searches...

(https://i.imgur.com/zWBK7UA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KGKALCQ.jpg)
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Technique on January 31, 2019, 04:11:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/3cpZVYc.png)

The ones on the bottom left

Terra Outback.  Now unban my ip mods.

And that is the correct answer. I do not know how you did it, but you are a legend, my friend. Thank you for the good time.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: N/A on January 31, 2019, 06:48:15 AM
Just found this pic of Smyth wearing these from back in the day with the security tag still on.

www.instagram.com/p/Bl10A0QjbjO/
Title: Re: mariano mouse -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on January 31, 2019, 07:03:16 AM
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The ones on the bottom left

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Terra Outback.  Now unban my ip mods.
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And that is the correct answer. I do not know how you did it, but you are a legend, my friend. Thank you for the good time.

Christ alive! i did not anticipate this level of collaboration to lock these down.

100% Nike Terra Outback. Immortalized.

SLAP got my back like a Jansport.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Arto Saari on January 31, 2019, 08:46:44 AM
Thanks for the kind words @Sk.A.T.A.N  ;). Now go to your higher ups at adidas and tell them that they will get the most out of you as an employee if they put you in the skate department!
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Allen. on January 31, 2019, 11:13:05 AM
Just found this pic of Smyth wearing these from back in the day with the security tag still on.

www.instagram.com/p/Bl10A0QjbjO/

Damn what a kook
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on February 01, 2019, 09:43:21 AM
Goddamn this is a satisfying thread. So who gets credit for the right answer? Silver? How'd you crack the code man?

Now to find a good catalogue or product photo of the same colourway he's wearing. Those ones that Silver posted and the ones Smyth are wearing are the same colourway right?

This isn't the colourway but you can get a good look at the shoe. Doesn't look good for skating at all ahaha. Even for back in the day.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d1/f0/79/d1f079e0c6f05632934055ffd940843f.jpg)
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Nth syd bear on February 02, 2019, 01:43:27 AM
Good work..
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Jewlien Burford on February 03, 2019, 02:56:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3cpZVYc.png)

Does anyone know the name of the air max 98 looking ones in the bottom right corner?
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on February 03, 2019, 03:09:07 PM
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Does anyone know the name of the air max 98 looking ones in the bottom right corner?

Nike terra albis 2
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: dirty ol man on February 21, 2019, 01:08:48 PM
meager update, but noticed these were kicked around at 1:05:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulaXzYuY-dA
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on February 22, 2019, 09:10:25 AM
I am quite satisfied with that update. Thank you.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Nosferatu on February 22, 2019, 09:58:00 AM
It would be really cool to see a Jenkem article: “Every Shoe Guy Mariano Skated in Mouse” with a little blurb from guy on each one and a little sneaker nerd analysis.
Title: Re: mariano goldfish -- nike cross trainers/runners
Post by: Watson on February 22, 2019, 02:50:49 PM
Ahah I had that exact idea. Was planning on pitching it to Village Psychic. Apparently Mariano is impossible to get interviews from though. He may not be down to hype up any shoes except for Nikes.

Still gonna try though.