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Title: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Roast beef on February 21, 2019, 02:40:25 AM
They are both killing it lately but not getting any shine, I know vans team is stacked but half the team hasn’t really been producing lately But get away with it because they are legends. Anyone else Vans is sleeping on?
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: CarbonaNotWax on February 21, 2019, 03:32:01 AM
I may be wrong about this, but I’m fairly certain Vans has a reputation of putting rippers on ice for way to long and losing them. Winkowski was pro for SC for almost a year and Vans didn’t do dick with him, and they lost him to emerica. I’m fairly certain that’s not the only example.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Coolhats on February 21, 2019, 04:18:07 AM
B team
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: honey island on February 21, 2019, 04:47:31 AM
B team



yep. b team/north american team


they get paid, and they travel. off the top of my head it's nick michel, kadow, kader, glick, diego todd, brianna, dustin henry, justin henry, beatrice, fabiana delfino, etienne gagne
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Mr_Friend on February 21, 2019, 06:13:24 AM
Axel Crusher?

North America or Euro team?
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Utopos on February 21, 2019, 06:28:17 AM
Axel Crusher?

North America or Euro team?

Lizzi flow
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: honey island on February 21, 2019, 06:30:51 AM
Axel Crusher?

North America or Euro team?


eu team with chris pfanner as tm.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: shit_for_brains on February 21, 2019, 06:51:56 AM
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Axel Crusher?

North America or Euro team?
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eu team with chris pfanner as tm.

Pfanner on the DLX phase out program already?
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: honey island on February 21, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
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Axel Crusher?

North America or Euro team?
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eu team with chris pfanner as tm.
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Pfanner on the DLX phase out program already?


i don't think so, he just had a anti-hero ad in the march issue for thrasher, think it's just vans looking after him a little.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Lastdudeonthesesh on February 21, 2019, 07:24:24 AM
Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: euro tm on February 21, 2019, 10:57:28 AM
Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood

if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Szechuan on February 21, 2019, 11:01:21 AM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
But brahhhhhhh he's Lizard 2.0!! 😕
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Jacob Gary on February 21, 2019, 12:00:25 PM
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yep. b team/north american team


they get paid, and they travel. off the top of my head it's nick michel, kadow, kader, glick, diego todd, brianna, dustin henry, justin henry, beatrice, fabiana delfino, etienne gagne

I think dustin and breanna are canada team.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: the tranny monster on February 21, 2019, 12:05:02 PM
Chris Russel?
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: planman on February 21, 2019, 12:08:19 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
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But brahhhhhhh he's Lizard 2.0!! 😕
that statement was equally insulting to both skaters
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: MOUNTAIN on February 21, 2019, 12:21:03 PM
Jenkem should do a interview with the employee/intern in charge of editing these "team pages"
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Francis Xavier on February 21, 2019, 12:48:11 PM
Jenkem should do a interview with the employee/intern in charge of editing these "team pages"
They should follow it up with interviews with the people that still check skate company websites...do any of them have interesting shit like the old Toy Machine,Shorty's or TSA websites?
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: honey island on February 21, 2019, 12:49:22 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires

i know it's odd, but getting on the b team isn't some pathway to get in the big dog team. that team is insanely hard to get on.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: TurdyBird on February 21, 2019, 01:02:49 PM
I may be wrong about this, but I’m fairly certain Vans has a reputation of putting rippers on ice for way to long and losing them. Winkowski was pro for SC for almost a year and Vans didn’t do dick with him, and they lost him to emerica. I’m fairly certain that’s not the only example.

This leaves me curious as to why Kader left for Vans b team, while Winkowski left b squad for pro emerica team.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: DannyDee on February 21, 2019, 01:06:46 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
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i know it's odd, but getting on the b team isn't some pathway to get in the big dog team. that team is insanely hard to get on.
I would have thought Justin Henry was on track to fully get on, considering he had footage and was listed as a rider in Spinning Away. He's the only one of them who had that.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: TurdyBird on February 21, 2019, 01:09:11 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
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i know it's odd, but getting on the b team isn't some pathway to get in the big dog team. that team is insanely hard to get on.
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I would have thought Justin Henry was on track to fully get on, considering he had footage and was listed as a rider in Spinning Away. He's the only one of them who had that.

I was thinking the same thing but there aren't any ams listed in general.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: honey island on February 21, 2019, 01:11:32 PM
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I may be wrong about this, but I’m fairly certain Vans has a reputation of putting rippers on ice for way to long and losing them. Winkowski was pro for SC for almost a year and Vans didn’t do dick with him, and they lost him to emerica. I’m fairly certain that’s not the only example.
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This leaves me curious as to why Kader left for Vans b team, while Winkowski left b squad for pro emerica team.


because he is getting paid at vans. he wasn't at emerica.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: heckler on February 21, 2019, 01:23:49 PM
I thought for sure Justin Henry was on the real team, as well, but I haven't seen him in any Vans ads beyond his Spinning Away appearance. Hm.

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I may be wrong about this, but I’m fairly certain Vans has a reputation of putting rippers on ice for way to long and losing them. Winkowski was pro for SC for almost a year and Vans didn’t do dick with him, and they lost him to emerica. I’m fairly certain that’s not the only example.
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This leaves me curious as to why Kader left for Vans b team, while Winkowski left b squad for pro emerica team.
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because he is getting paid at vans. he wasn't at emerica.
"bUt bRo, sUpPoRt sK8r oWnEd!"
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: TurdyBird on February 21, 2019, 01:41:08 PM
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I may be wrong about this, but I’m fairly certain Vans has a reputation of putting rippers on ice for way to long and losing them. Winkowski was pro for SC for almost a year and Vans didn’t do dick with him, and they lost him to emerica. I’m fairly certain that’s not the only example.
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This leaves me curious as to why Kader left for Vans b team, while Winkowski left b squad for pro emerica team.
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because he is getting paid at vans. he wasn't at emerica.

Yeah thats fair. When I posted that originally, I was coming from a place that now Kader is pro, I wonder if he'd get paid more as an Emerica pro rather than vans b-team pro. It was probably one of those situations where he didn't think he was gonna go pro anytime soon and Vans had money for him regardless.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: rejectpaul on February 21, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
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I may be wrong about this, but I’m fairly certain Vans has a reputation of putting rippers on ice for way to long and losing them. Winkowski was pro for SC for almost a year and Vans didn’t do dick with him, and they lost him to emerica. I’m fairly certain that’s not the only example.
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This leaves me curious as to why Kader left for Vans b team, while Winkowski left b squad for pro emerica team.
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because he is getting paid at vans. he wasn't at emerica.
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Yeah thats fair. When I posted that originally, I was coming from a place that now Kader is pro, I wonder if he'd get paid more as an Emerica pro rather than vans b-team pro. It was probably one of those situations where he didn't think he was gonna go pro anytime soon and Vans had money for him regardless.

I heard rumour that kader  was getting paid more than Eniz and the Euro dudes, it wasn’t from Euro tm so I don’t know how reliable that is...
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Roast beef on February 21, 2019, 02:59:55 PM
I wonder if he sat at table with the grown ups and shunned the euro guys too just fit in.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Swithflip on February 21, 2019, 03:16:38 PM
Every black skater unless Chima is/was b team on vans. Like Bastien and Darrell.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Pavs323 on February 21, 2019, 03:27:58 PM
Whoever updates and runs their team page has no clue what they’re doing or talking about. I work in a Vans store, and we thought it would be a cool idea to put up some of the bios/pictures of some of the guys on the team. Long story short, their bio for Kyle Walker said “wins a lot of demos,” they still list Chocolate as Berle’s board sponsor, and the funniest one is in the photo they provide for Ronnie Sandoval, he is holding a Lakai shoe.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: oyolar on February 21, 2019, 03:53:27 PM
Every black skater unless Chima is/was b team on vans. Like Bastien and Darrell.

Didn't know they gave out pro models to the B team.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: UL8 on February 21, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
It's absolutely insane to me that Vans would put Kader on the B-Team. He's one of the most popular and marketable skaters out. I feel like they are just waiting to announce him with a marketing initiative.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Francis Xavier on February 21, 2019, 04:29:00 PM
It's absolutely insane to me that Vans would put Kader on the B-Team. He's one of the most popular and marketable skaters out. I feel like they are just waiting to announce him with a marketing initiative.
They are coming out with another montage/2 part  video soon
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Hands down Hass out on February 21, 2019, 04:35:45 PM
So... the b team is just am+euro???
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Luddite on February 21, 2019, 05:01:27 PM
There seems to be a strange structure to the Vans team these days. Guys like Kader, Glick, Kadow, Aidan, Axel, Johan , Justin Henry all get posted on their instagram but no official announcement? I'm sure at least some of those guys are more than flow and probly getting a paycheck.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: fs overkrook on February 21, 2019, 05:06:52 PM
It's absolutely insane to me that Vans would put Kader on the B-Team. He's one of the most popular and marketable skaters out. I feel like they are just waiting to announce him with a marketing initiative.
Kader is going to almost in 2020. He’s going to have a “darth kader” pro model along with a darth Vader themed pro model shoe from vans.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: honey island on February 21, 2019, 05:11:08 PM
There seems to be a strange structure to the Vans team these days. Guys like Kader, Glick, Kadow, Aidan, Axel, Johan , Justin Henry all get posted on their instagram but no official announcement? I'm sure at least some of those guys are more than flow and probly getting a paycheck.


well yeah, thats what this program is. they are involved, but vans just have different tiers now. it's 2019. it's a little confusing to us outsiders, but if those guys are getting paid, and getting to travel, it doesn't really matter in the end, 'official announcement' or not.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Francis Xavier on February 21, 2019, 06:12:32 PM
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There seems to be a strange structure to the Vans team these days. Guys like Kader, Glick, Kadow, Aidan, Axel, Johan , Justin Henry all get posted on their instagram but no official announcement? I'm sure at least some of those guys are more than flow and probly getting a paycheck.
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well yeah, thats what this program is. they are involved, but vans just have different tiers now. it's 2019. it's a little confusing to us outsiders, but if those guys are getting paid, and getting to travel, it doesn't really matter in the end, 'official announcement' or not.
Just imagine looking at the Nike tiers of their team
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Ed boy on February 21, 2019, 07:04:23 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
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But brahhhhhhh he's Lizard 2.0!! 😕
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/52778851_1054757451378301_8878319337866264576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=d5811f071ea90b4e4e2387253a1df97a&oe=5D24E2F9)
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: sus on February 21, 2019, 09:03:35 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
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But brahhhhhhh he's Lizard 2.0!! 😕
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(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/52778851_1054757451378301_8878319337866264576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=d5811f071ea90b4e4e2387253a1df97a&oe=5D24E2F9)

This is gold.

Side note: Henry Gartland on rainbow fun-dip confirmed
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Soft Boiled on February 21, 2019, 09:25:25 PM
I’d like to see Kader and the Alltimer’s dudes get fully on, rather than that dufus Tyson Peterson.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Putaslocas on February 21, 2019, 09:37:16 PM
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B team
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I could care FUCKING LESS about beatrice diamond. Shit style and no thought goes into her skating.


yep. b team/north american team


they get paid, and they travel. off the top of my head it's nick michel, kadow, kader, glick, diego todd, brianna, dustin henry, justin henry, beatrice, fabiana delfino, etienne gagne
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: euro tm on February 21, 2019, 10:44:38 PM
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Henry Gartland seems to be in the same “b team” position. Hopefully they come out with a cool video project introducing some of the new blood
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if he gets on vans and glick stays on the b team i’m starting fires
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But brahhhhhhh he's Lizard 2.0!! 😕
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(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/52778851_1054757451378301_8878319337866264576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=d5811f071ea90b4e4e2387253a1df97a&oe=5D24E2F9)
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This is gold.

Side note: Henry Gartland on rainbow fun-dip confirmed

imagine the thought process behind someone wanting to sponsor that
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: TurdyBird on February 21, 2019, 11:11:05 PM
Pretty easy, the guy fucking rips. That noseblunt in the scramble video was pretty nutty.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: fried on February 21, 2019, 11:29:22 PM
It’s not really a B team. It’s just the people from the US/Canada that don’t have pro models.

Andrew Allen is on the North American team.I don’t  think he’d be on the B team? I think vans is just trying to sponsor more people like how Nike is
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: juuhnuuh on February 22, 2019, 01:51:47 AM
It’s not really a B team. It’s just the people from the US/Canada that don’t have pro models.

Andrew Allen is on the North American team.I don’t  think he’d be on the B team? I think vans is just trying to sponsor more people like how Nike is

I think they need to be careful and not fall into the Emerica trap, where they had a sick EU squad that never really got pushed. Skaters like Kader, Kadow, Dustin Henry, Karl Berglind do need the recognition/prospect of being on the team page of the vans website.

The whole EU, Canada, International, Asia team lists feel like one big flow deal if you don't include them.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Zurg on February 22, 2019, 02:01:27 AM
the tiers seem kinda odd(from what ive heard, itd be interesting to see a list). kader seems way more popular/marketable than curren caples or say pedros barros or whoever on the full team. maybe its cuz they were on before? they must be eventually putting kader on the listed team eventually
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Seadramon on February 22, 2019, 02:59:20 AM
Pretty sure Vans is doing a separate team repping exclusively the classics line - Axel, Kader, Greyson.

All three of these guys left shoe contracts (pretty big ones) to be on this Vans program.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Utopos on February 22, 2019, 06:17:14 AM
There seems to be a strange structure to the Vans team these days. Guys like Kader, Glick, Kadow, Aidan, Axel, Johan , Justin Henry all get posted on their instagram but no official announcement? I'm sure at least some of those guys are more than flow and probly getting a paycheck.

Just cut those guys guys and give the others a real paycheck
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: heckler on February 22, 2019, 07:30:15 AM
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Every black skater unless Chima is/was b team on vans. Like Bastien and Darrell.
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Didn't know they gave out pro models to the B team.
Didn't realize they gave b-team riders like Chris Pfanner and Ray Barbee official team pages, too.
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: fucking, joy on February 22, 2019, 11:37:43 AM
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It’s not really a B team. It’s just the people from the US/Canada that don’t have pro models.

Andrew Allen is on the North American team.I don’t  think he’d be on the B team? I think vans is just trying to sponsor more people like how Nike is
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I think they need to be careful and not fall into the Emerica trap, where they had a sick EU squad that never really got pushed. Skaters like Kader, Kadow, Dustin Henry, Karl Berglind do need the recognition/prospect of being on the team page of the vans website.

The whole EU, Canada, International, Asia team lists feel like one big flow deal if you don't include them.

Do they?  Like everyone’s been saying B team is all over Vans’ insta and employees/vets/insiders like J-Lay’s, and that’s what gets you incentive and exposure now. I get that it’s a nice feeling to be on that team page, but the only people checking that shit are the one’s seeing if skaters are “on” or “of”
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Tyson on February 22, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
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There seems to be a strange structure to the Vans team these days. Guys like Kader, Glick, Kadow, Aidan, Axel, Johan , Justin Henry all get posted on their instagram but no official announcement? I'm sure at least some of those guys are more than flow and probly getting a paycheck.
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Just cut those guys guys and give the others a real paycheck
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on February 23, 2019, 02:27:21 AM
their bio for Kyle Walker said “wins a lot of demos,”
*spits coffee*
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Zurg on February 23, 2019, 03:04:19 AM
*jamie thomas' interest piques*
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Post by: CHONGO on February 23, 2019, 03:39:53 AM
back up
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Post by: YSL on February 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
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yep. b team/north american team


they get paid, and they travel. off the top of my head it's nick michel, kadow, kader, glick, diego todd, brianna, dustin henry, justin henry, beatrice, fabiana delfino, etienne gagne

Dope ass B Team
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: Cuban_Lynx on February 23, 2019, 04:13:28 PM
Just checked and Dill isn’t listed on the Adidas team.
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Post by: Francis Xavier on February 23, 2019, 05:29:31 PM
Just checked and Dill isn’t listed on the Adidas team.
It's because he's on the Dill team
Title: Re: Why aren’t Glick and Kader listed as part of the vans team?
Post by: globe fusion on February 23, 2019, 05:44:23 PM
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yep. b team/north american team


they get paid, and they travel. off the top of my head it's nick michel, kadow, kader, glick, diego todd, brianna, dustin henry, justin henry, beatrice, fabiana delfino, etienne gagne

i think the canadian riders just fall into the vans canada segment

there will be a vans x baker collection coming out fall 19, i think that's when they are planning to fully promote kader instead of whatver they're doing now