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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Ratnuts on December 18, 2019, 06:57:35 AM
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I realize that we are in the age of 10 minute video parts. But really, flatground treflips are not impressive, in fact they are too common. And most people filming switch tricks should do them the regular way because mostly it looks gross.
Frankly, there is no escaping lifestyle footage in the modern skate part. But if skatepark footage is shamed as basic, then flatground ride-away tricks need to be re-examined. And if you look stupid doing a trick switch, do it the other way and look fucking gorgeous.
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is this supposed to be the "change my mind" meme but as a text?
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is this supposed to be the "change my mind" meme but as a text?
well i admit, its my opinion
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I use a flat tre as a set up or a finisher for most of my lines so eat doo doo.
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sick bones logo you dork
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This fucking thread is filler.
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I realize that we are in the age of 10 minute video parts. But really, flatground treflips are not impressive, in fact they are too common. And most people filming switch tricks should do them the regular way because mostly it looks gross.
Frankly, there is no escaping lifestyle footage in the modern skate part. But if skatepark footage is shamed as basic, then flatground ride-away tricks need to be re-examined. And if you look stupid doing a trick switch, do it the other way and look fucking gorgeous.
instead of "filler" maybe think of it as a "connector". but if we are talking about tricks that should be put on a backburner, then im gonna go with the bigspin.
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but if we are talking about tricks that should be put on a backburner, then im gonna go with the bigspin.
I agree completely. Unless its hucking. Its a way overused flatground trick.
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There are a lot of tricks that look better switch then regular. Wouldn't even be surprised if this were already a thread. The backside 5-0 for example. Most heelflips.
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There are a lot of tricks that look better switch then regular. Wouldn't even be surprised if this were already a thread. The backside 5-0 for example. Most heelflips.
Hell yeah I do feel like switch bs heelflips look great most of the time. I just don't like a switch trick done for the sake of being switch. It should be perfect or not done at all.
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I realize that we are in the age of 10 minute video parts. But really, flatground treflips are not impressive, in fact they are too common. And most people filming switch tricks should do them the regular way because mostly it looks gross.
Frankly, there is no escaping lifestyle footage in the modern skate part. But if skatepark footage is shamed as basic, then flatground ride-away tricks need to be re-examined. And if you look stupid doing a trick switch, do it the other way and look fucking gorgeous.
you sound like a dude who only skates parks and is getting defensive about it. flatground tricks in a real line in the streets are not filler.
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I realize that we are in the age of 10 minute video parts. But really, flatground treflips are not impressive, in fact they are too common. And most people filming switch tricks should do them the regular way because mostly it looks gross.
Frankly, there is no escaping lifestyle footage in the modern skate part. But if skatepark footage is shamed as basic, then flatground ride-away tricks need to be re-examined. And if you look stupid doing a trick switch, do it the other way and look fucking gorgeous.
you sound like a dude who only skates parks and is getting defensive about it. flatground tricks in a real line in the streets are not filler.
I am only talking about video parts. All skateboarding matters. But filming, that's different to me.
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I’m trypiing all tyhis wiith my toees. Thatrs liule typing sewwitch.
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These are the threads that make me laugh. I live for these stupid ass opinions that someone goes out of their way to express.
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Who cares, if a guy likes to do treflips all the time let him be. You're forgetting that skateboarding is supposed to be fun, not some shit show contest to see who has the best footage.
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I agree with OP on the 360flip part (not the switch hate, though).
The flatground 360flip as connector between two bigger tricks (with the final trick down a set of stairs) is very played out. Nollie kickflips or nollie heelflips come in second place. Are they better then just no connector tricks? Probably. But if I had the talent I would try to deepen my bag of stylish flat ground tricks for just this situation.
I also agree that the present plethora of after-hammer flat ground tricks (and failed trick attempts) being left in videos is for the worse. I just counted 10 of those in Kader's part in Baker 4.
Granted, Baker videos aren't known for their tight editing.
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I agree about the Tre. But nay on switch crooks.
How about we change the set up trick to a big flip or a front heel and keep trying to get this switch crook Fakie flip right.
Then we can do some dabs with Beagle
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Who cares, if a guy likes to do treflips all the time let him be. You're forgetting that skateboarding is supposed to be fun, not some shit show contest to see who has the best footage.
Mo Duncan Jr has a mean Tre. I can watch them all day.
I like shuv flip better. Like Andrew Cannon has a mean one.
I'm going to go look.
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totally agree with you. (just the tre part) some of us have just seen too much of the same shit over and over.
I'd rather see a nollie heel than a tre at this point.
(also if your 360 flip barely leaves the ground, don't even bother)
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Agree with 3 flip, I think it's dumb to say switch shouldn't be filmed and don't get it at all
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Is a bigspin a popshuv with a 180 or is it a 3 shuv with a 180? I'm confused about that.
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Is a bigspin a popshuv with a 180 or is it a 3 shuv with a 180? I'm confused about that.
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Is a bigspin a popshuv with a 180 or is it a 3 shuv with a 180? I'm confused about that.
ok thank you
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https://youtu.be/LaBWYZJjy8s
There's one filler Tre in here but
Start at like 1:30 because the opening is wack
This is one of my favorite lines in here. I think it's a bummer that kids will know him for being at contest talking when in real skating he is the shit.
Also his band is fire af
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I realize that we are in the age of 10 minute video parts. But really, flatground treflips are not impressive, in fact they are too common. And most people filming switch tricks should do them the regular way because mostly it looks gross.
Frankly, there is no escaping lifestyle footage in the modern skate part. But if skatepark footage is shamed as basic, then flatground ride-away tricks need to be re-examined. And if you look stupid doing a trick switch, do it the other way and look fucking gorgeous.
you sound like a dude who only skates parks and is getting defensive about it. flatground tricks in a real line in the streets are not filler.
I am only talking about video parts. All skateboarding matters. But filming, that's different to me.
Skateboard lives matter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjEm9sBSg0
:54 has both of what youre talking about and is most definitely not filler
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I agree with OP on the 360flip part (not the switch hate, though).
The flatground 360flip as connector between two bigger tricks (with the final trick down a set of stairs) is very played out. Nollie kickflips or nollie heelflips come in second place. Are they better then just no connector tricks? Probably. But if I had the talent I would try to deepen my bag of stylish flat ground tricks for just this situation.
It’s not like there’s a whole lot of other options that are easy enough or look good enough on flat to keep the line going. What do y’all want to see instead, 3 shuv ems? Heel flip shuv ems? Fuckin ew.
Edit: OP I don’t agree with you in the slightest, switch shouldn’t be filmed? Lmao.
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I agree with OP on the 360flip part (not the switch hate, though).
The flatground 360flip as connector between two bigger tricks (with the final trick down a set of stairs) is very played out. Nollie kickflips or nollie heelflips come in second place. Are they better then just no connector tricks? Probably. But if I had the talent I would try to deepen my bag of stylish flat ground tricks for just this situation.
It’s not like there’s a whole lot of other options that are easy enough or look good enough on flat to keep the line going. What do y’all want to see instead, 3 shuv ems? Heel flip shuv ems? Fuckin ew.
Edit: OP I don’t agree with you in the slightest, switch shouldn’t be filmed? Lmao.
impossible
Fucking late shuv
Laser
Hard flips
Nollie tre....
M80 but then you switch so do a crook anyway
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I love flatground.
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i got bored of doing tre flips because the were too easy. now i can't do them for the life of me
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I love flatground.
I'm played out on flat.
I dream about the flat bar. It's strange because I've always liked ledges Manny pads and flat gaps on hills.
The flat bar has grabbed me by the spiritual kiwi and I can't get no satisfaction
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This is 2019 son about to be 2020, if anything it’s fucking back 3s. This ain’t fucking 2004 where every 2 obstacle 3 trick line had the 3rd trick as the flatground trey between obstacles.
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as long as there isn't more than 1 maybe 2 flat ground 360 flips in a singular part, i dont care really
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i got bored of doing tre flips because the were too easy. now i can't do them for the life of me
I had them every go for 2 years in my earlier 30s and i did them tirelessly all day. Switched coasts, bought a new board and the tres stopped working!!!!! Worse then losing a friend (well, on level)
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I agree, I will turn of a video part after the 2nd flatground 360 flip
You also only get one crooked grind per part, switch or regs
And no switch mongo pushing, instantly turn your part of for that shit.
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I agree, I will turn of a video part after the 2nd flatground 360 flip
You also only get one crooked grind per part, switch or regs
And no switch mongo pushing, instantly turn your part of for that shit.
The Simon Cowell of skateboarding. Get outta here
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If I got a tre flip on film, or not on film, I would chalk it up as one of my life's greatest achievements.
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The only trick that makes me turn off a part is the backside boardslide. I don’t care how big the handrail is, they always look gross.
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I love people complaining about trucks.
Seriously, go jump off a bridge if you're complaining about anything besides bennihanas and shuvit tail grabs.
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I love people complaining about trucks.
Seriously, go jump off a bridge if you're complaining about anything besides bennihanas and shuvit tail grabs.
To be fair, the Ford F-150 blows chunks, man.
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I love people complaining about trucks.
Seriously, go jump off a bridge if you're complaining about anything besides bennihanas and shuvit tail grabs.
To be fair, the Ford F-150 blows chunks, man.
Yeah, everybody knows that Toyotas are the shit.
(Damn autocorrect, thanks for pointing out)
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I love people complaining about trucks.
Seriously, go jump off a bridge if you're complaining about anything besides bennihanas and shuvit tail grabs.
To be fair, the Ford F-150 blows chunks, man.
Yeah, everybody knows that Toyotas are the shit.
(Damn autocorrect, thanks for pointing out)
Haha...no sweat. It was a perfect opening for me to drop some of my stupid "humor".
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I avoid getting bored with tre flips by not being able to do them.
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I understand the sentiment because I do, and have filmed, too many 360 flips, but it's still one of those tricks that not every single person can make look good. Also, no switch?? By that logic, almost every single part of the past decade would be cut into a fraction of what the final product was.
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pretty roundabout way to admit you can't tre and have zero switch tricks.
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pretty roundabout way to admit you can't tre and have zero switch tricks.
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I avoid getting bored with tre flips by not being able to do them.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
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I avoid getting bored with tre flips by not being able to do them.
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I avoid getting bored with tre flips by not being able to do them.
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No, it shows style. When guys like Kalis, BA or Apples (and there are a bunch of others, but the first 3 I think of), trey flip in their lines as a connector it looks great. As for switch tricks? No. You are wrong. There are great skaters who rarely film anything switch (Westgate, GT, Mason Silva, AO, Danny Brady, etc) and some are my favorite skaters, but if you can do them proper it is impressive as hell. The fact Shane O'Neill can switch flip-back tail so consistently is unreal and deserves to be documented.
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Took me a while to find the “opinions that don’t matter” thread but here I am!
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This may have started out as a bullshit thread, but the comments have paid back (10X) for the offense.
...And whereas I too have taken notice of the seeming ubiquity of the flat 3-flip as a line filler, I would like to point out that we’re talking about skateboarding here, and there are rules, god dammit.
The first of which is: there are NO FUCKING RULES!!!
Full disclosure: never landed a one of ‘em.
Darned kids with your reverse whirley-bird spins & upside down helicopter flips... get off my lawn!
(Insert grumpy old guy shaking fist at youth enjoying themselves.)
Hugs & of course, shalom to you all. Even our arguably confused/misguided OP.
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If I got a tre flip on film, or not on film, I would chalk it up as one of my life's greatest achievements.
https://youtu.be/33ycGtScvHA
I wish you said impossible so I could have used Darren Nolan's Dr Tech.
I fucking love DN.
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I remember watching Mikey Taylor's part in Skate More and being bummed that he didn't do any 360 flips. The 360 flip is like a standard flatground trick that I welcome. Remember Antwuan starting his baker 3 part with the line with the 360 flip, that one was ideal. Although, I will gouge out my eyes if I see an exaggerated back foot 360 flip or "Yo" flip. I have no preoccupations with certain tricks, just the way they are executed. Switch looks kind of cool when you can tell they're skating switch. When you can't tell that they're switch to me it looses it's appreciation of difficulty.
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so if 360 flips are the overused filler trick what do you nominate as a replacement OP? another trick that will eventually be too played out for your tastes and in a years time we have the same thread different trick?
guaranteed op got snaked by a kid doing switch 360 flips
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Imagine that every time someone landed switch, that they would just pivot around to regular...
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I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt.
agreed
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Im waiting on big boned ollies to take off as the new flat ground filler
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I would rather see a 360 flip in a line then a flat ground late shuv. They are over done but there aren’t many better options for a regular to regular flat ground trick.
I also have to say I’m a fan of the roll away trick after a banger. It’s like their special meter is up.
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is this supposed to be the "change my mind" meme but as a text?
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I'm happy to watch a flatground tre. And may this picture remind us all of the beauty of certain switch tricks:
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1998/TH9809.jpg)
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I would rather see a 360 flip in a line then a flat ground late shuv. They are over done but there aren’t many better options for a regular to regular flat ground trick.
I also have to say I’m a fan of the roll away trick after a banger. It’s like their special meter is up.
I love heelflips in between
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spend your free time watching sub par tre flips pals
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Flatground treflips are filler.. but it’s cream filling.. that shits sweet bitch
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Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’d like to see some 360 shoves take over a bit of 360 flip’s market share. They’re low-key harder than 360 flips for a lot of people and I feel like I hardly ever see them.
I’ve noticed impossibles have been encroaching into 360 flips’ territory as well.
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do a heelflip
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here ya go then
(https://j.gifs.com/K1G83n.gif)
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The only trick that makes me turn off a part is the backside boardslide. I don’t care how big the handrail is, they always look gross.
Funny, Nyjah said the same thing in a Thrasher interview. The same interview where he said women shouldn’t skate.
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For the kind of skating I prefer and like to watch, switch tricks done for the sake of being switch don’t do much for me either. I like when they are in a line were it flows naturally because the skater ends up being switch from the previous trick, but going switch just because it’s harder or for a nbd personally doesn’t get me going.
I like 360 flips and other flip tricks on flat when there is a bit of a lul between terrain/obstacles in lines. Why not?
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I agree, I will turn of a video part after the 2nd flatground 360 flip
You also only get one crooked grind per part, switch or regs
And no switch mongo pushing, instantly turn your part of for that shit.
FOH did you even watch the Tiago part earlier in the thread? Switch mongo like a fine wine after the illest crook you’ve seen son.
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Yes, tre flips are filler, we all know that. Reason is that everyone would judge your tre in a vid "he has the best tre", "he catches with his front foot" etc., it just stuck.
Can't remember who did it recently but no tre as a filler on one line but instead, an impossible.
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is this supposed to be the "change my mind" meme but as a text?
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(https://i.imgflip.com/3jx333.gif)
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I would rather see a 360 flip in a line then a flat ground late shuv. They are over done but there aren’t many better options for a regular to regular flat ground trick.
I also have to say I’m a fan of the roll away trick after a banger. It’s like their special meter is up.
agreed!
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https://youtu.be/LaBWYZJjy8s
There's one filler Tre in here but
Start at like 1:30 because the opening is wack
This is one of my favorite lines in here. I think it's a bummer that kids will know him for being at contest talking when in real skating he is the shit.
Also his band is fire af
Not hating but I could have done every trick in this part.
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I agree, I will turn of a video part after the 2nd flatground 360 flip
You also only get one crooked grind per part, switch or regs
And no switch mongo pushing, instantly turn your part of for that shit.
This is too true.A part is a showcase of skill, not a showcase of how limited your flatground vocabulary is.
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Is a bigspin a popshuv with a 180 or is it a 3 shuv with a 180? I'm confused about that.
ok thank you
I'm not sure, frontside I do more of a pop shuv and 180, backside feels more 360 shuv with a body varial.
Will skateboarding ever find a unifying theory of complex systems?
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https://youtu.be/LaBWYZJjy8s
There's one filler Tre in here but
Start at like 1:30 because the opening is wack
This is one of my favorite lines in here. I think it's a bummer that kids will know him for being at contest talking when in real skating he is the shit.
Also his band is fire af
Not hating but I could have done every trick in this part.
Post a clip poosey
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https://youtu.be/LaBWYZJjy8s
There's one filler Tre in here but
Start at like 1:30 because the opening is wack
This is one of my favorite lines in here. I think it's a bummer that kids will know him for being at contest talking when in real skating he is the shit.
Also his band is fire af
Not hating but I could have done every trick in this part.
Post a clip poosey
Not quite ready to out myself on here. Maybe one day.
Until then, confirmed poosey.
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I think it’s more of the case of who’s doing what and how did it look. Andrew Reynolds did a 360 flip in baker 4 that was amazing and I don’t recall him doing very many of those. I love every single Mike York 360 flip and watching him taught me how to do it.Ugly 360 flips or any flip tricks for that matter should not be in a video part but good skaters know what they can and can’t do well.
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a good tre flip is always welcome irrespective of how it's used
blondey's treflip line in that addidas vid was garbage though
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I'm happy to watch a flatground tre. And may this picture remind us all of the beauty of certain switch tricks:
(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1998/TH9809.jpg)
First Thrasher I bought.
What was up with the red amish stubble is what I'm still wondering.
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The only time I feel like flat tires are questionable is when it’s a two trick line and the first trick is flat tre and second trick is hammer.
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I think it’s more of the case of who’s doing what and how did it look. Andrew Reynolds did a 360 flip in baker 4 that was amazing and I don’t recall him doing very many of those. I love every single Mike York 360 flip and watching him taught me how to do it.Ugly 360 flips or any flip tricks for that matter should not be in a video part but good skaters know what they can and can’t do well.
I think this is what it all comes down to. This line has some major offenses according to this thread but it was still so enjoyable.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6QoM5eHi6y/?igshid=1u144m4l44tg5
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I realize that we are in the age of 10 minute video parts. But really, flatground treflips are not impressive, in fact they are too common. And most people filming switch tricks should do them the regular way because mostly it looks gross.
Frankly, there is no escaping lifestyle footage in the modern skate part. But if skatepark footage is shamed as basic, then flatground ride-away tricks need to be re-examined. And if you look stupid doing a trick switch, do it the other way and look fucking gorgeous.
Still prefer a 360 flip to a big spin.
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Imagine that every time someone landed switch, that they would just pivot around to regular...
horrendous turnaround guy.