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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: tyshoes on February 29, 2020, 03:35:11 PM
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This is a cool concept. Check it out
It’s handmade in California by Legend Skates and features the totally unique design called Smart Rails, which is a dual internal Epoxy laminated Maple Beam construction, under the Epoxy laminated Everslick layer that is molded in a specially handcrafted mold, which all makes for a rather unique design that enables way better Board and Lipslides with a minimal contact area and slicker substrate of which you’re sliding on. And the graphic stays largely intact, as it’s digitally printed into the Everslick material and protected by the dual internal beam design.
This design also features a layer of Carbon Fiber in between the rails, covering both trucks, so you get better strength, durability and performance from the Addison Taylor Smart Rail Everslick design.
Addison’s design also features the unique Pop Wedge design, which has an extra layer of hardrock Maple laminated into the tail and nose which creates a better, longer lasting pop.
I have the Addison Taylor street with black fiberglass top 8.5 and its a great deck. Super Poppy. I suppose one could just add rails to your board but I think its a very cool idea and makes sense as an upgrade in deck design. Too bad I dont like the shapes they have it in.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2182/3189/products/Addison_Graphic_Girl_and_Butterfly_Top-Bottom_Blue_EverSlick_Smart_Rail_Comp_copy_500x500.jpg?v=1578781450)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2182/3189/products/Addison_Taylor_Girl-Butterfly_Top-Bottom_Natural_Epoxy_Slick_with_Smart_Rails_copy_500x500.jpg?v=1578781455)
What do ya think? Im not really a fan of slicks but this has multiple advantages with the rail integration regarding the dancing grinds/slides.
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ugly
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Ok. Thats a valid reason to not like it. None one wants to ride something they dont like the look of. What is ugly about it to you? Just the unnatural shape and bent epoxy? Or do you not like the graphics/shape or rails?
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looks like the deck has tumors
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looks like the deck has tumors
Yeah I get it, its unusual looking but I like the concept if they continue to refine it it could look slick if a bigger manufactuerer copied the design like Alien/ps. Id like to see a side profile.
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The wedge makes sense and doesn’t need expensive engineering.
The rails I am not sure about. Seems cool and makes sense, I do ride rails and find that screwing into the deck can compromise its lifespan. when the rails start rattling and the screw holes get blown out or the rails rip out it can get shit and kill the deck.
So I think they do make sense, still don‘t think I would buy a deck just because of that.
Also the graphics are so ugly that I couldn’t skate that deck comfortably, even though I don‘t care for graphics much.
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Also the graphics are so ugly that I couldn’t skate that deck comfortably, even though I don‘t care for graphics much.
You said it and now I don’t have to
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trashy looking graphics
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looks like the deck has tumors
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5IZ8Mni3I
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Looks like the bottom of a Penny board. It's unique but nothing I'm interested in riding.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0062/4915/2581/products/PNY20_Classic_27_StoneForest_8_1a2fc6c0-207a-468a-b568-06abc0b4064d_900x.jpg?v=1582515763)
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U down with the clown or nah
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whoever designed that graphic should go back to airbrushing t shirts at the state fair and/or making stickers for the vending machines at second run movie theaters
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"Her board graphics were drawn by tattoo artist Miguel Villaverde, with T-Mag doing the color work and production coordination."
I dont hate the graphics but it does look lame in those two colors. It seems like its aimed more towards woman with the Alpha Girls thing theyre doing. Thats a drawing of Addison Taylor. Id like to see a classic hensley graphic with it but T-Mag isnt really great with the graphics.
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i still think it looks very, very stupid
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i still think it looks very, very stupid
Noted
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What do you mean “noted”
Do you work for H street?
Hey H-Street, have legend do your crazy built in rail boards with a simple h street logo or a more timeless graphic like HENSLEY and I’d probably check one out
Legend makes quality stuff for the record. I’ve owned a few SSD decks and the dudes are legit so is the product
The built in rails came on those as well if I’m not mistaken
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More like T-MAGA am I right?
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The wedge makes sense and doesn’t need expensive engineering.
The rails I am not sure about. Seems cool and makes sense, I do ride rails and find that screwing into the deck can compromise its lifespan. when the rails start rattling and the screw holes get blown out or the rails rip out it can get shit and kill the deck.
So I think they do make sense, still don‘t think I would buy a deck just because of that.
Also the graphics are so ugly that I couldn’t skate that deck comfortably, even though I don‘t care for graphics much.
Is there a remedy to this shit? My rail was hella rattley and pretty much only one screw was solid, the other holes were blown out. Probably gonna try to screw them in with strong glue, as per someone's advice in the cruiser thread.
As for these H-Street boards, I like the idea of the built in rails, just not a fan of these graphics or shapes. I also prefer the classic look of rails, instead of them being apart of the graphic.
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I give them credit for trying something new. I always like to see board manufacturers pushing the envelope with new technology and interesting materials. Duane Peters had a deck with built in rails recently. I can't remember which company it was, though. One of the last two or three he's ridden for in the past 6 months, lol...
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No Im not affiliated with anything HStreet since early 90s but Ive been in contact with them. Im just a an older guy who likes H Street and would like them to get bigger again. I also agree that their logo is fire and would be sick to just have the logo and classic "H street" like their grip tape. I think its a cool concept but I agree with the aesthetics and old pool stuff. I suggested to have the guest art guy (Hickman) who remade the Hensly graphics to just keep doing revised versions of classic decks. Just trying to help them a lil.
Ex:
(https://i.ibb.co/GnTmS5Y/Hensley-Stained-Glass-Hickman-Guest-Art-Top-Bottom-White-Paint-copy-1024x1024.png)
"Noted" cus I didnt feel like actually responding someone just saying it looks stupid 2x. I like and appreciate all the other feedback.
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I give them credit for trying something new. I always like to see board manufacturers pushing the envelope with new technology and interesting materials. Duane Peters had a deck with built in rails recently. I can't remember which company it was, though. One of the last two or three he's ridden for in the past 6 months, lol...
Oh cool. Imma check that out and look into it. May be not a bad Idea to consider a limited run of these with custom graphics from legend directly in a more typical blunted popsicle shape.
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The wedge makes sense and doesn’t need expensive engineering.
The rails I am not sure about. Seems cool and makes sense, I do ride rails and find that screwing into the deck can compromise its lifespan. when the rails start rattling and the screw holes get blown out or the rails rip out it can get shit and kill the deck.
So I think they do make sense, still don‘t think I would buy a deck just because of that.
Also the graphics are so ugly that I couldn’t skate that deck comfortably, even though I don‘t care for graphics much.
Is there a remedy to this shit? My rail was hella rattley and pretty much only one screw was solid, the other holes were blown out. Probably gonna try to screw them in with strong glue, as per someone's advice in the cruiser thread.
As for these H-Street boards, I like the idea of the built in rails, just not a fan of these graphics or shapes. I also prefer the classic look of rails, instead of them being apart of the graphic.
The remedy is a drop of wood glue on your screws but those rails will stay on that deck.
Edit: you can always drill out the screw heads and pop off the rails if you have a drill
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But, is it handcrafted?
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The wedge makes sense and doesn’t need expensive engineering.
The rails I am not sure about. Seems cool and makes sense, I do ride rails and find that screwing into the deck can compromise its lifespan. when the rails start rattling and the screw holes get blown out or the rails rip out it can get shit and kill the deck.
So I think they do make sense, still don‘t think I would buy a deck just because of that.
Also the graphics are so ugly that I couldn’t skate that deck comfortably, even though I don‘t care for graphics much.
Is there a remedy to this shit? My rail was hella rattley and pretty much only one screw was solid, the other holes were blown out. Probably gonna try to screw them in with strong glue, as per someone's advice in the cruiser thread.
As for these H-Street boards, I like the idea of the built in rails, just not a fan of these graphics or shapes. I also prefer the classic look of rails, instead of them being apart of the graphic.
The remedy is a drop of wood glue on your screws but those rails will stay on that deck.
Edit: you can always drill out the screw heads and pop off the rails if you have a drill
Another thing to do is get some double sided adhesive foam strips and put that between the rails and the deck and them screw them in like normal. This is basically how the candy bars rails were made and they stayed locked on for me and never rattled. I have no idea why they aren't made anymore but thanks for introducing me to that install hack whoever at Welcome.
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I believe that was schmitts idea
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I believe that was schmitts idea
He nice with the rails
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Isn't that a 15 year old Lib Tech deck?
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So instead of starting a new post I did some homework and found a guy selling blanks from legends woodshop. These are very high quality blanks and great wood for those fan of bbs but slightly stiffer. The decks that I can confirm are Legend are the fiberglass top ones. Confirmed 100% see pics. He doesnt tell me if all decks he is selling comes from Legend (but its likely).
Hers some pics of a Fiberglass top 8.75 legend blank deck next to the Hstreet 8.5 version of same deck.
(https://i.ibb.co/LhJqPHZ/IMG-6805.jpg)
Same markings, same wood, same middle ply color. Unquestionably Legend.
Further confirmation here (look at color and size of Ron Allen fg top vs size the blank guy has)
https://h-street.com/collections/frontpage/products/ron-allen-klindt-art-p-special-street-edition
Also, the cored wheels he is selling is a true dual durometer that seems to be made by creative and identicle from autobahn dual duro also made by creative. I got a pair he added in for cheap. Deck and wheels was 35 with grip and its a very high quality deck. Wheels are shaped like spitfire f4 classics so not the popular wide shape but Im impressed by them and am riding them now. Smooth and slide is great but still hard. Imma guess autobahn dual duro 100s?? cant comfirm but theyre solid wheels about a few years old.
Just a heads up on a great deal and the opportunity to try a newer innovative woodshop's blank. Dont bother asking him about where stuff is from, he will not disclose. But you can contact him for custom orders to save shipping.
(https://i.ibb.co/2Z4H8m4/IMG-6812-1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GTHfrm7/IMG-6800-1.jpg)
Very nice decks for those who like to try different wood/assemble process or need good blanks. Moderate steepness and mild concave.
Heres his Ebay for a fg top legend blank in 8.25".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiberglass-top-skateboard-deck-8-25-orange-with-free-grip-sheet/323210640239?hash=item4b40dafb6f:g:blgAAOSw0YxalQif
Scroll though his auctions for other sizes or contact him for him to add wheels to your order or make it custom for you.
I cant confirm the non fiberglass ones are legend, but likely. Let me know if any of you try these. I am likely going to grab a few more now that I confirmed it. His auctions, some have wheels included some dont, contact him and he adds them for you. I only tried the cored dual duro wheels and the fg deck.
His Ebay store
https://www.ebay.com/usr/allskates?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Let me know if you guys get some cus these are my fav decks next to coldpress creatures.
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So instead of starting a new post I did some homework and found a guy selling blanks from legends woodshop. These are very high quality blanks and great wood for those fan of bbs but slightly stiffer. The decks that I can confirm are Legend are the fiberglass top ones. Confirmed 100% see pics. He doesnt tell me if all decks he is selling comes from Legend (but its likely).
Hers some pics of a Fiberglass top 8.75 legend blank deck next to the Hstreet 8.5 version of same deck.
(https://i.ibb.co/LhJqPHZ/IMG-6805.jpg)
Same markings, same wood, same middle ply color. Unquestionably Legend.
Further confirmation here (look at color and size of Ron Allen fg top vs size the blank guy has)
https://h-street.com/collections/frontpage/products/ron-allen-klindt-art-p-special-street-edition
Also, the cored wheels he is selling is a true dual durometer that seems to be made by creative and identicle from autobahn dual duro also made by creative. I got a pair he added in for cheap. Deck and wheels was 35 with grip and its a very high quality deck. Wheels are shaped like spitfire f4 classics so not the popular wide shape but Im impressed by them and am riding them now. Smooth and slide is great but still hard. Imma guess autobahn dual duro 100s?? cant comfirm but theyre solid wheels about a few years old.
Just a heads up on a great deal and the opportunity to try a newer innovative woodshop's blank. Dont bother asking him about where stuff is from, he will not disclose. But you can contact him for custom orders to save shipping.
(https://i.ibb.co/2Z4H8m4/IMG-6812-1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GTHfrm7/IMG-6800-1.jpg)
Very nice decks for those who like to try different wood/assemble process or need good blanks. Moderate steepness and mild concave.
Heres his Ebay for a fg top legend blank in 8.25".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiberglass-top-skateboard-deck-8-25-orange-with-free-grip-sheet/323210640239?hash=item4b40dafb6f:g:blgAAOSw0YxalQif
Scroll though his auctions for other sizes or contact him for him to add wheels to your order or make it custom for you.
I cant confirm the non fiberglass ones are legend, but likely. Let me know if any of you try these. I am likely going to grab a few more now that I confirmed it. His auctions, some have wheels included some dont, contact him and he adds them for you. I only tried the cored dual duro wheels and the fg deck.
His Ebay store
https://www.ebay.com/usr/allskates?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Let me know if you guys get some cus these are my fav decks next to coldpress creatures.
Thanks for the link, do you have the dimensions of the 8 & 8.125? I sent a message on ebay too. Have a feeling these could be the Fibretech decks that I was looking for in a separate thread.
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not the full demensions. I would check the hstreet site. The Ron Allen link I posted, addison Tayor street, and ruby lilly all are these decks. My 8.75 has a wb of 14.5. If you message him, hell likely measure for you.
Got lil more info for you
Red: 8.1" with a 14.25 Wheelbase
Blue: 8" with a 14 Wheelbase
Green: 7.8" with a 13.9 Wheelbase
Yellow: 8.25" with a 14.25 Wheelbase
Black: 8.5" X 32" with 14.5 wheelbase Nose: 7" Tail: 6.75 (I have this deck so I have all tail and nose measurements but assume similar)
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Got a reply on ebay
8 x 31.625 x 14
8.125 x 31.875 x 14.5
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So instead of starting a new post I did some homework and found a guy selling blanks from legends woodshop. These are very high quality blanks and great wood for those fan of bbs but slightly stiffer. The decks that I can confirm are Legend are the fiberglass top ones. Confirmed 100% see pics. He doesnt tell me if all decks he is selling comes from Legend (but its likely).
Hers some pics of a Fiberglass top 8.75 legend blank deck next to the Hstreet 8.5 version of same deck.
(https://i.ibb.co/LhJqPHZ/IMG-6805.jpg)
Same markings, same wood, same middle ply color. Unquestionably Legend.
Further confirmation here (look at color and size of Ron Allen fg top vs size the blank guy has)
https://h-street.com/collections/frontpage/products/ron-allen-klindt-art-p-special-street-edition
Also, the cored wheels he is selling is a true dual durometer that seems to be made by creative and identicle from autobahn dual duro also made by creative. I got a pair he added in for cheap. Deck and wheels was 35 with grip and its a very high quality deck. Wheels are shaped like spitfire f4 classics so not the popular wide shape but Im impressed by them and am riding them now. Smooth and slide is great but still hard. Imma guess autobahn dual duro 100s?? cant comfirm but theyre solid wheels about a few years old.
Just a heads up on a great deal and the opportunity to try a newer innovative woodshop's blank. Dont bother asking him about where stuff is from, he will not disclose. But you can contact him for custom orders to save shipping.
(https://i.ibb.co/2Z4H8m4/IMG-6812-1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GTHfrm7/IMG-6800-1.jpg)
Very nice decks for those who like to try different wood/assemble process or need good blanks. Moderate steepness and mild concave.
Heres his Ebay for a fg top legend blank in 8.25".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiberglass-top-skateboard-deck-8-25-orange-with-free-grip-sheet/323210640239?hash=item4b40dafb6f:g:blgAAOSw0YxalQif
Scroll though his auctions for other sizes or contact him for him to add wheels to your order or make it custom for you.
I cant confirm the non fiberglass ones are legend, but likely. Let me know if any of you try these. I am likely going to grab a few more now that I confirmed it. His auctions, some have wheels included some dont, contact him and he adds them for you. I only tried the cored dual duro wheels and the fg deck.
His Ebay store
https://www.ebay.com/usr/allskates?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Let me know if you guys get some cus these are my fav decks next to coldpress creatures.
Sick. Fonna look around later and see if he has any of the little kids sized boards I prefer. The integrated rails and reinforcements look awesome and make a ton of sense how much are those H streets selling for, shackle me not is one of the best 80s skate vids
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Got a reply on ebay
8 x 31.625 x 14
8.125 x 31.875 x 14.5
Nice. Seems odd that the 8.125 has a wider wheelbase than the black 8.5 but Imma assume accurate. Let me know what you guys think
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Got a reply on ebay
8 x 31.625 x 14
8.125 x 31.875 x 14.5
Nice. Seems odd that the 8.125 has a wider wheelbase than the black 8.5 but Imma assume accurate. Let me know what you guys think
8.125 x 31.875 x 14.5
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Straight up cookiedook dimensions....
I hit them up as well: the length of the 8.25” fiberglass deck is 31.75”, WB is 14.5”, nose 6.75”, tail 6.5”.
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whoever designed that graphic should go back to airbrushing t shirts at the state fair and/or making stickers for the vending machines at second run movie theaters
Thank you for the unexpected nostalgia trip.
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So instead of starting a new post I did some homework and found a guy selling blanks from legends woodshop. These are very high quality blanks and great wood for those fan of bbs but slightly stiffer. The decks that I can confirm are Legend are the fiberglass top ones. Confirmed 100% see pics. He doesnt tell me if all decks he is selling comes from Legend (but its likely).
Hers some pics of a Fiberglass top 8.75 legend blank deck next to the Hstreet 8.5 version of same deck.
(https://i.ibb.co/LhJqPHZ/IMG-6805.jpg)
Same markings, same wood, same middle ply color. Unquestionably Legend.
Further confirmation here (look at color and size of Ron Allen fg top vs size the blank guy has)
https://h-street.com/collections/frontpage/products/ron-allen-klindt-art-p-special-street-edition
Also, the cored wheels he is selling is a true dual durometer that seems to be made by creative and identicle from autobahn dual duro also made by creative. I got a pair he added in for cheap. Deck and wheels was 35 with grip and its a very high quality deck. Wheels are shaped like spitfire f4 classics so not the popular wide shape but Im impressed by them and am riding them now. Smooth and slide is great but still hard. Imma guess autobahn dual duro 100s?? cant comfirm but theyre solid wheels about a few years old.
Just a heads up on a great deal and the opportunity to try a newer innovative woodshop's blank. Dont bother asking him about where stuff is from, he will not disclose. But you can contact him for custom orders to save shipping.
(https://i.ibb.co/2Z4H8m4/IMG-6812-1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/GTHfrm7/IMG-6800-1.jpg)
Very nice decks for those who like to try different wood/assemble process or need good blanks. Moderate steepness and mild concave.
Heres his Ebay for a fg top legend blank in 8.25".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiberglass-top-skateboard-deck-8-25-orange-with-free-grip-sheet/323210640239?hash=item4b40dafb6f:g:blgAAOSw0YxalQif
Scroll though his auctions for other sizes or contact him for him to add wheels to your order or make it custom for you.
I cant confirm the non fiberglass ones are legend, but likely. Let me know if any of you try these. I am likely going to grab a few more now that I confirmed it. His auctions, some have wheels included some dont, contact him and he adds them for you. I only tried the cored dual duro wheels and the fg deck.
His Ebay store
https://www.ebay.com/usr/allskates?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
Let me know if you guys get some cus these are my fav decks next to coldpress creatures.
Sick. Fonna look around later and see if he has any of the little kids sized boards I prefer. The integrated rails and reinforcements look awesome and make a ton of sense how much are those H streets selling for, shackle me not is one of the best 80s skate vids
Agreed and Hocus Pocus of course is prob my fav vid of all time. Probably watched it 100x as it was my era. They sell their decks on their site (www.h-street.com) and it seems Socal has them too
https://socalskateshop.com/H-Street-Skateboards.html
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H Street graphics and shapes are fucking dogshit.
And Magnusson is a dipshit. A total ‘face masks and closing skateparks impinge on my freedom’ kinda dipshit
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Unfortunatly I agree regarding their shapes and graphics (with exception of re-issues). I have been telling him to just put a big classic black and white logo on his decks and keep it simple cus its a dope logo. This shape is nice though, its the Addison Taylor street version. Its a full popsicle and the build/feel is great. Nice mild kicks and concave and lasting pop. So having the option the get the blanks cheap gives you access to those decks, without the hstreet graphics and upcharge. Id love to support H-Street but the pool shape majority isnt my style. Id like to try this shape with the epoxy rails in a blank too but I think the minimum is 20 decks from Legend Skates
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Got a reply on ebay
8 x 31.625 x 14
8.125 x 31.875 x 14.5
Nice. Seems odd that the 8.125 has a wider wheelbase than the black 8.5 but Imma assume accurate. Let me know what you guys think
8.125 x 31.875 x 14.5
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Straight up cookiedook dimensions....
I hit them up as well: the length of the 8.25” fiberglass deck is 31.75”, WB is 14.5”, nose 6.75”, tail 6.5”.
I think its off, unless they just made all boards over 8" 14.5 wb and this was a clearout.
H-streets addison taylor street and ruby taylor red fg deck as well as the socal measurements when theyre in stock
state this:
H-street "This standard popsicle shape is made with a fibreglass top in two sizes, 8.5 with a 14.5 Wheelbase, and 8.25 with a 14.3 Wheelbase"
while socal reported the same deck with a 14.25 wheelbase.
https://h-street.com/collections/street-series/products/addison-taylor-street-p-girl-butterfly
I just measured my 8.5 and 8.75 and got these measurements.
8.75 x 32.25 14.5 wb
8.5 x 32 14.5 wb
So Im going to assume H-st and socal are more accurate, but changing a wb is very possiblly what happened. the 8" deck and 8.75 have solid measurements for me and Im liking the 8.75...Nice solid wide board with a huge nose.
Also wanted to add I got a quick hour session at the park with these wheels and I have to say, theyre good paired with minilogo bearings. I dont know if theyre going to replace my easy streets but theyre def going on the complete I leave in the car. I have had autobhan dual duros before and these do feel quite similar and it is the same shape (& look similar with clear cores) and def worth the extra $5-10.
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I’m not a rails guy but I’d bolt rails before I rode this
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Found out Legend Skates now has a direct shop...and a smart rails deck with a better shape. Also blanks. These are very solid decks with good wood. I grabbed the smart rail and a blank. Sick blank deals at $35 shipped.
https://legend94.bigcartel.com/
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Got this deck and loving it. Just makes sense and cleaner looking.
(https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/271265315/20200730_142007.jpg?auto=format&fit=max&w=1200)