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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: fredgallSOTY on May 28, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
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Has anyone tried out either? I'm thinking of either grabbing a Simon Bannerot or Rick Howard Couch or a Cory Kennedy Phawt with my next paycheck. What are they like? Pros and Cons of each? Worth it?
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I've had both. Both super fun shapes. The CK Phawt has a 14 3/4" Wheel base and the Couch is 13 7/8", I think. So they feel very different. The Couch shape is too short for my taste but has been really fun for flat ground fun.
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I've had both. Both super fun shapes. The CK Phawt has a 14 3/4" Wheel base and the Couch is 13 7/8", I think. So they feel very different. The Couch shape is too short for my taste but has been really fun for flat ground fun.
thanks!!! i was specifically trying to use them just as a fun setup so thats great news.
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I've had both the phawt and the love seat (same as the couch but only 9" at the widest point). Aside from the WB difference the phawt has a lot less flat on the tail and is also rounder (like a traditional popsicle) on that end. Also, the taper on both is a little different, with the phawt being wider towards the back and the loveseat/couch being wider towards the center/front.
Both are great, functional shapes. Since I mostly skate flatground and curbs, I've kind of come to love the loveseat more but would def rock the phawt if I were more of a transition skater. That might also be because I'm pretty tall, but even so the loveseat doesn't feel short or anything.
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I currently have a Girl 9" love seat set up, and absolutely love it. That short wb paired with Ventures is damn near perfect for me. I am going to do the couch shape next after reading good reviews on here.
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Anyone try the couch or love seat with independent trucks?
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Anyone try the couch or love seat with independent trucks?
Yes loveseat is great on 159s
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Anyone try the couch or love seat with independent trucks?
Used the Couch with 169s, axles stick out on the back truck a tiny bit. Fun shape and worked well with the Indys. Magic carpet with 159s should be fun, too. Unfortunately, it cracked after skating flat ground a few times. Someone pointed out in another thread that poor landings put a lot of stress on the board with this shape, however the wood felt cheap compared to the BBS and HLC decks I am usually riding.
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Personally I'd stick to 159, 151s or 6.1s on the 9.25 couch. Would love to try another one with Ventures this time.
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Personally I'd stick to 159, 151s or 6.1s on the 9.25 couch. Would love to try another one with Ventures this time.
6.1s on the loveseat are perfect IMO I always go back to that setup
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I have 159’s on a loveseat and it’s such a fun set up.
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Couch shape and Ace 66 (af1) here. Not the ideal combination if you don't like very very sketchy and responsive everything. They're really good boards and fun shapes though. Im saving my board for later and put back my 14.375wb board for now.
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couch shape with 169..they're fun..might set another one with 151s or 6.1..
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If I were to purchase the Love Seat with Venture 6.1, should I go for cast or forged baseplates?
Forged push out the wheelbase, but the couch has a small wb anyway, so I figured it wouldn't be a big deal. Plus the smaller weight with a wider board would maybe strike a nice balance.
Interested to hear some thoughts.
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I have a Cory love seat as my cruiser atm and I love the shape. Will definitely have one in rotation for a long, long time. I have 151 Thunder hollows with it. Last photo is an old pic when it was new.
(https://i.ibb.co/1GvkvJk/D75-FB173-F504-486-A-8408-4-F3-CBFB00603.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1GvkvJk)
(https://i.ibb.co/8K9zpP6/9-F4-F3293-F3-B2-454-F-9665-238-FFC737549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8K9zpP6)
(https://i.ibb.co/5RZFg5X/26-AE38-B8-EC37-479-D-9-C9-B-526-CE1-F30-A0-C.png) (https://ibb.co/5RZFg5X)
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If I were to purchase the Love Seat with Venture 6.1, should I go for cast or forged baseplates?
Forged push out the wheelbase, but the couch has a small wb anyway, so I figured it wouldn't be a big deal. Plus the smaller weight with a wider board would maybe strike a nice balance.
Interested to hear some thoughts.
I have had both and didn't notice a difference with way.
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I have a Cory love seat as my cruiser atm and I love the shape. Will definitely have one in rotation for a long, long time. I have 151 Thunder hollows with it. Last photo is an old pic when it was new.
(https://i.ibb.co/1GvkvJk/D75-FB173-F504-486-A-8408-4-F3-CBFB00603.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1GvkvJk)
(https://i.ibb.co/8K9zpP6/9-F4-F3293-F3-B2-454-F-9665-238-FFC737549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8K9zpP6)
(https://i.ibb.co/5RZFg5X/26-AE38-B8-EC37-479-D-9-C9-B-526-CE1-F30-A0-C.png) (https://ibb.co/5RZFg5X)
Looks more like a Phawt than Love Seat?
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I have a Cory love seat as my cruiser atm and I love the shape. Will definitely have one in rotation for a long, long time. I have 151 Thunder hollows with it. Last photo is an old pic when it was new.
(https://i.ibb.co/1GvkvJk/D75-FB173-F504-486-A-8408-4-F3-CBFB00603.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1GvkvJk)
(https://i.ibb.co/8K9zpP6/9-F4-F3293-F3-B2-454-F-9665-238-FFC737549.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8K9zpP6)
(https://i.ibb.co/5RZFg5X/26-AE38-B8-EC37-479-D-9-C9-B-526-CE1-F30-A0-C.png) (https://ibb.co/5RZFg5X)
Looks more like a Phawt than Love Seat?
yeah, the nose slighty pointier than a Loveseat/couch.
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I’ve never seen a Phawt in person and bought this board advertised as a Love Seat. They may have got it wrong! Help!
(https://i.ibb.co/zhsJG84/EA4-DDDCC-EC9-D-42-CD-844-B-13553-B699-B8-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhsJG84)
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I have 159’s on a loveseat and it’s such a fun set up.
Me too, I am hooked!
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I’ve never seen a Phawt in person and bought this board advertised as a Love Seat. They may have got it wrong! Help!
(https://i.ibb.co/zhsJG84/EA4-DDDCC-EC9-D-42-CD-844-B-13553-B699-B8-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhsJG84)
That's a Phawt. Rad shape but way longer wheelbase at 14.75"
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Cool! That’s one of the things I like most about it, it feels long. I don’t really check for wheelbases or stuff like that. I’m a size 12 and it feels nice with room to move on it. I am bummed on the shop sending it to me.
No one I know has had either board before so I’ve been telling them it’s the love seat shape haha. Doh.
Thanks for the info!
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No prob. I love that shape also. (Also have size 11.5 / 12 feet) Its really really close to the Cardiel 9.18 Huffer shape if you want to try something similar with BBS wood.
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Never really looked too hard at Crailtap boards, but at least (as was posted in the Woodshop thread - thanks @Chatbot) that Shapes guide is a great help:
https://crailtap.com/shapes
Almost need to add vs. Love Seat too to this thread, going by the current info, but I guess people are more used to the main two shapes, with Love Seat really only being a 9" version of Couch, as it says in the info.
https://crailtap.com/shapes/#phawt
Phawt
(G041) • 9.125″ × 32.625″
Width:9.125″
Length:32.625″
Wheelbase:14.75″
Nose:6.9375″
Tail:6.7375"
https://crailtap.com/shapes/#couch
Couch
(G048) • 9.25″ × 32″
Width:9.25″
Length:32″
Wheelbase:13.875″
Nose:7.125″
Tail:6.8″
https://crailtap.com/shapes/#love-seat
Love Seat
(G055) • 9″ × 32″
Width:9″
Length:32″
Wheelbase:13.875″
Nose:7.125″
Tail:6.8″
I can definitely see the Huffer shape in the Phawt version now when I look at all three of them.
(https://i.ibb.co/0ccqpdc/Crailtap-shaped-decks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CzzBpTz)
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Thanks so much y’all.
Fuck. Now I’m gonna be looking for the other 2 shapes to buy now haha.
Although the Cards board sounds nice. I have had an AH in a few years.
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I had the same dilema between the loveseat/Couch and ended up buying one of each. Both are great but the Couch works better for me.
As mentioned here Couch + Venture 6.1 a match made in heaven.
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I’ve never seen a Phawt in person and bought this board advertised as a Love Seat. They may have got it wrong! Help!
(https://i.ibb.co/zhsJG84/EA4-DDDCC-EC9-D-42-CD-844-B-13553-B699-B8-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhsJG84)
Was it really necessary to have those shellys on for this photo? :-\ Haha
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Haha. Damn homie. I managed to find an 11. Your a 10 right???
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Haha. Damn homie. I managed to find an 11. Your a 10 right???
yessir unfortunately just a 10. That is so fucking cool that your in the prowl with me..thank you homey!
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Haha. Damn homie. I managed to find an 11. Your a 10 right???
No worries. I’ve been looking ever since the “I’d move to Australia for them” comment. Made me laugh and know how keen you are.
I’ll find a US10. I’m on it. It’s good to do things for random people and not want anything in return.
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Haha. Damn homie. I managed to find an 11. Your a 10 right???
No worries. I’ve been looking ever since the “I’d move to Australia for them” comment. Made me laugh and know how keen you are.
I’ll find a US10. I’m on it. It’s good to do things for random people and not want anything in return.
Thanks man, You're a legend through and through.
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What size trucks are people using on the 9" Love seat?
I like 151s on the 9.25" Couch and 55s on the 9.125 Phawt but have yet to try the 9" Loveseat...
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What size trucks are people using on the 9" Love seat?
I like 151s on the 9.25" Couch and 55s on the 9.125 Phawt but have yet to try the 9" Loveseat...
I have titanium 169’s on the loveseat.
EDIT: Titanium 159’s, my b. Titanium 169’s on the Couch.
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what a perfect ass thread right now. i recently got a pair of standard 6.1s for pretty much free. would the loveseat phawt or couch be my best bet here? i already rock ti 5.8s on cast plates for my usual setup. whatchyall think
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what a perfect ass thread right now. i recently got a pair of standard 6.1s for pretty much free. would the loveseat phawt or couch be my best bet here? i already rock ti 5.8s on cast plates for my usual setup. whatchyall think
I was pretty set on 6.1s with the loveseat until I put 5.8s with full conicals. It will be the best experience of your life.
*If you go with the Couch for your 6.1s (you should) please report back because I plan on trying this combo next Spring.
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I would imagine 6.1s being perfect for the Couch.
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Can anyone tell me what the width of the Love Seat is at the rear axle? I want to skate it on my AF1 55's but anything less than 8.5 is gonna feel weird back there.
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Can anyone tell me what the width of the Love Seat is at the rear axle? I want to skate it on my AF1 55's but anything less than 8.5 is gonna feel weird back there.
it’s a little more than 8.5 on the rear axle
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what a perfect ass thread right now. i recently got a pair of standard 6.1s for pretty much free. would the loveseat phawt or couch be my best bet here? i already rock ti 5.8s on cast plates for my usual setup. whatchyall think
*If you go with the Couch for your 6.1s (you should) please report back because I plan on trying this combo next Spring.
this post just got me WILD hyped to set up a whole new complete. FUCK YEAH LETS GOOOO
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what a perfect ass thread right now. i recently got a pair of standard 6.1s for pretty much free. would the loveseat phawt or couch be my best bet here? i already rock ti 5.8s on cast plates for my usual setup. whatchyall think
*If you go with the Couch for your 6.1s (you should) please report back because I plan on trying this combo next Spring.
this post just got me WILD hyped to set up a whole new complete. FUCK YEAH LETS GOOOO
Ha that's sick! Nice wide flip machine. Enjoy!
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Can anyone tell me what the width of the Love Seat is at the rear axle? I want to skate it on my AF1 55's but anything less than 8.5 is gonna feel weird back there.
it’s a little more than 8.5 on the rear axle
Sick, thank you! How's the concave? As mellow as a regular crail deck?
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Can anyone tell me what the width of the Love Seat is at the rear axle? I want to skate it on my AF1 55's but anything less than 8.5 is gonna feel weird back there.
it’s a little more than 8.5 on the rear axle
Sick, thank you! How's the concave? As mellow as a regular crail deck?
yeah i got a g027 deck and the concaves both look similar. here’s a pic of both of them(the loveseats on the top)
https://imgur.com/gallery/76bm2Bc
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Good looks @bongboarder420
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Has anyone tried out either? I'm thinking of either grabbing a Simon Bannerot or Rick Howard Couch or a Cory Kennedy Phawt with my next paycheck. What are they like? Pros and Cons of each? Worth it?
love the couch and love seat due to the shorter wb but the phawt has a longer wheelbase. have 3 chocolate/girl love seats on ice and riding the couch til 93 bennerot right now. love it! fun to slappy and still flip my board. most my slappy decks i have to redrill the trucks for a 13.9-14" wb Thanks To Chems_skate Wheelbase jig. at the trucks the couch is 8.75" and the love seat is around 8.5"
Girl 9.25" couch with thunder 151(8.75"axle) light trucks, 54mm orbs pugs 86a wheels, bones reds bearings, 1/8" heroin glow stack risers, lil jawns slim rails
chocolate 9" loveseat Sapo alverez, Tensor maglight 5.75(8.5"axle) Reg ATG trucks, 54mm orbs pugs 86a wheels, Bronson G3 bearings, lil jawns 13.5" slim 4 hole rails
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I score a loveseat during the Garage 30% off sale. Excited to set it up. Never tried that short of a wheel base.
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been really liking the loveseat shape, set it up a few days ago on 6.1 ventures. tre flips and kickflips are so much easier and consistent compared to the krooked board with 14.38WB i was skating before. gonna try the couch shape after i’m done skating this one
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Got another Couch on the way. I basically use this shape for flat ground and re-learning flip tricks. I did try to skate a 9' deep bowl with one and it was terrifying, even with Thunder 151s...
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Currently have one of each set up and remembered this thread. The wheelbase difference looks crazy.
Couch: Classic 55s and worn down 58mm Classic (probably around 52mm now)
Phawt: Af1 60s and 55mm Tablets.
(https://i.imgur.com/DFeICa4.jpg)
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Ive skated a 2 couches, 3 loveseats, and ive just set up my first phawt. Gotta say personally the Phawt is taking the cake. The smaller wheelbases just felt way to squirrely.
I also have a loveseat+ on ice that I'm excited to check out. But I think the Phawt is going to be my new shape. Temped to buy a stack from Craig.ca
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Anyone try the couch or love seat with independent trucks?
Very nimble.
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Anyone in the EU know where I could score a Loveseat Plus from a skate shop? I know there's a few on Skatedeluxe but I'd rather support a smaller shop if it's possible.
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What size trucks are people using on the 9" Love seat?
I like 151s on the 9.25" Couch and 55s on the 9.125 Phawt but have yet to try the 9" Loveseat...
I used to ride it with ACE classic 55
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Anyone in the EU know where I could score a Loveseat Plus from a skate shop? I know there's a few on Skatedeluxe but I'd rather support a smaller shop if it's possible.
https://ing-direct.de/collections/decks-sale?filter.v.availability=1
they offer phawt, couch and love seat for 33 euros at the moment.
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Anyone in the EU know where I could score a Loveseat Plus from a skate shop? I know there's a few on Skatedeluxe but I'd rather support a smaller shop if it's possible.
https://ing-direct.de/collections/decks-sale?filter.v.availability=1
they offer phawt, couch and love seat for 33 euros at the moment.
No Loveseat Plus there but I ended up ordering two G053's so I hope it redeems my business at the big corp a bit. Thank you!
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anybody set their loveseat/couch with the Venture V8s on the shortest mounting position ? thinking of putting the 6.1 axle on the v8s baseplates. just to see how it feels..
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Anyone in the EU know where I could score a Loveseat Plus from a skate shop? I know there's a few on Skatedeluxe but I'd rather support a smaller shop if it's possible.
https://ing-direct.de/collections/decks-sale?filter.v.availability=1
they offer phawt, couch and love seat for 33 euros at the moment.
No Loveseat Plus there but I ended up ordering two G053's so I hope it redeems my business at the big corp a bit. Thank you!
I didn't read the PLUS and didn't even know about the PLUS-Shape. Good to know. Glad you found something else... I didn't pull the trigger... yet... ::)
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Worth noting, a lot of this part seems to be on a Love Seat/ Couch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn7k1cDeMWI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn7k1cDeMWI)