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Skateboarding => PHOTOS/VIDEO => Topic started by: bluntfullofmid on November 10, 2020, 07:46:27 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CHagkqbg--p/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
let the hype begin
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been a lot of photos of gilby and elijah that have came out that i'm very, very interested in seeing the footage for.
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And Greg Hunt's post says it also features Justin Henry. Can't wait.
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
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Sick, big Crockett fan over here. Will be interesting to see FA Berle through the Vans lens.
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
if their previous parts are anything to go by the music is a lock to be good
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
Greg Hunt's music supervision is always top notch.
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
Greg Hunt's music supervision is always top notch.
agreed. just remembered the past two vans vids "Spinning Away" and "No Other Way" were not Greg Hunt productions. Those vids fucking sucked.
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
Greg Hunt's music supervision is always top notch.
agreed. just remembered the past two vans vids "Spinning Away" and "No Other Way" were not Greg Hunt productions. Those vids fucking sucked.
::shrugs::
I liked No Other Way.
That Dick Dale-esque(or was it actually Dick Dale) song for Elijah's part was a little meh but I love the team montage and i know he gets hate on here but i love the song/edit/tricks for that Kyle Walker part.
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
Greg Hunt's music supervision is always top notch.
agreed. just remembered the past two vans vids "Spinning Away" and "No Other Way" were not Greg Hunt productions. Those vids fucking sucked.
::shrugs::
I liked No Other Way.
That Dick Dale-esque(or was it actually Dick Dale) song for Elijah's part was a little meh but I love the team montage and i know he gets hate on here but i love the song/edit/tricks for that Kyle Walker part.
haha didnt mean to put you down. im just hoping this new vid is more of a statement, if you will.
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This is gonna be real good!
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Man, I hope they make Justin Henry pro after this part. It's LONG OVERDUE.
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Abysmally apathetic name for a video but no doubt it’s going to absolutely smoke.
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
Greg Hunt's music supervision is always top notch.
agreed. just remembered the past two vans vids "Spinning Away" and "No Other Way" were not Greg Hunt productions. Those vids fucking sucked.
The last video they did was "Take It Back". I liked Ronnie skating to Eric Burdon in that video. I also thought Chima skating to Brian Eno was perfect in "Spinning Away". I think Ryan Lovell and Vans have been doing a great job of putting out videos consistently that are a manageable length with good skating and a great last part.
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cool.
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I've been waiting so long for this video! Justin Henry has been getting a lot of coverage and traction lately, and I could definitely see him going pro when this comes out. I'd cop his pro board if that does happen.
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I've been waiting so long for this video! Justin Henry has been getting a lot of coverage and traction lately, and I could definitely see him going pro when this comes out. I'd cop his pro board if that does happen.
Same. I have three other Quasi decks on deck, but I'd most def add his into the lineup.
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New Gilbert is ALWAYS a good thing!!
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aw man.
berle, gilby, justin henry, GREG HUNT!!!!
i just hope the music choices are good/memorable
if their previous parts are anything to go by the music is a lock to be good
This is absolutely something to look forward to...Greg Hunt is a true master of his craft
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Glad these guys are both putting footy out considering they've both had shoes drop in the past year without the part to accompany the releases. The extra long wait should give us some hammers
prediction is Gilby 1st part with Elijah curtains
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And Greg Hunt's post says it also features Justin Henry. Can't wait.
Was wondering where his footage was going. Can't wait for this.
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Looking forward to this. Still 2 weeks away
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Has Corey Glick every had footage in a Vans video? (other than tours) He would have been a great addition to this project
*edit just found out that score is DGar
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very psyched for new Gil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5D4orSRx6w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5D4orSRx6w)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oteu6yEd6gg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oteu6yEd6gg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZdaIUugIUw&list=FLb2eiB3zBgEX8XV4NHIGQig&index=45&t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZdaIUugIUw&list=FLb2eiB3zBgEX8XV4NHIGQig&index=45&t=0s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azT1mQtVN6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azT1mQtVN6k)
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very psyched for new Gil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5D4orSRx6w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5D4orSRx6w)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oteu6yEd6gg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oteu6yEd6gg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZdaIUugIUw&list=FLb2eiB3zBgEX8XV4NHIGQig&index=45&t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZdaIUugIUw&list=FLb2eiB3zBgEX8XV4NHIGQig&index=45&t=0s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azT1mQtVN6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azT1mQtVN6k)
let's do this
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
As much as I agree with you, all of Mason's footage has been quality footage.
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
hate to always be this guy but can someone scan the photos? i would really appreciate it
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Title just makes me think of Elliott Smith’s Oh Well, Ok.. which would be an absolutely epic song choice for this video.
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good to know Greg is back directing this one
just about everything he's worked on has been a classic so looking forward to this to say the least
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
also how is putting out multiple parts a “campaign?” wouldn’t dropping a heavy all hammers part just in time for soty season be more nefarious?
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
hate to always be this guy but can someone scan the photos? i would really appreciate it
I have an online subscription, and this is the only one I could get with the view being restricted due to the app I use. There's also a Nollie Flip Bs 50-50 down a 9 stair rail, which I think is a NBD on a rail? Correct me if I'm wrong.
(https://i.ibb.co/BZyS1rk/Screen-Shot-2020-11-11-at-3-09-14-am.png)
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
Nah I haven't :'( Mason's only put out the one part via Thrasher as well. The 2nd Real 'part' felt a tad on the nose. Clearly a lot of it is footage that didn't make the cut for his Nike or other Real part, as there's overseas footage. Not a diss to Mason at all, I've enjoyed his year a lot, just think Elijah has a real good chance of taking it.
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
hate to always be this guy but can someone scan the photos? i would really appreciate it
I have an online subscription, and this is the only one I could get with the view being restricted due to the app I use. There's also a Nollie Flip Bs 50-50 down a 9 stair rail, which I think is a NBD on a rail? Correct me if I'm wrong.
(https://i.ibb.co/BZyS1rk/Screen-Shot-2020-11-11-at-3-09-14-am.png)
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
Nah I haven't :'( Mason's only put out the one part via Thrasher as well. The 2nd Real 'part' felt a tad on the nose. Clearly a lot of it is footage that didn't make the cut for his Nike or other Real part, as there's overseas footage. Not a diss to Mason at all, I've enjoyed his year a lot, just think Elijah has a real good chance of taking it.
I would agree with you if it wasn’t for the fact that Burnett is infatuated with Mason. Seems like they’re skating together a bunch, which is probably what he needs to give him the edge over Elijah.
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I am so stoked for this video.
Gilbert is <3
Elijah is <3
Greg Hunt is <3
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For those confused about the title, it was filmed entirely in Alright, Oklahoma
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
hate to always be this guy but can someone scan the photos? i would really appreciate it
I have an online subscription, and this is the only one I could get with the view being restricted due to the app I use. There's also a Nollie Flip Bs 50-50 down a 9 stair rail, which I think is a NBD on a rail? Correct me if I'm wrong.
(https://i.ibb.co/BZyS1rk/Screen-Shot-2020-11-11-at-3-09-14-am.png)
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
Nah I haven't :'( Mason's only put out the one part via Thrasher as well. The 2nd Real 'part' felt a tad on the nose. Clearly a lot of it is footage that didn't make the cut for his Nike or other Real part, as there's overseas footage. Not a diss to Mason at all, I've enjoyed his year a lot, just think Elijah has a real good chance of taking it.
appleyard does it here
https://youtu.be/XtY0FCHSnvg?t=1398 (https://youtu.be/XtY0FCHSnvg?t=1398)
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
hate to always be this guy but can someone scan the photos? i would really appreciate it
I have an online subscription, and this is the only one I could get with the view being restricted due to the app I use. There's also a Nollie Flip Bs 50-50 down a 9 stair rail, which I think is a NBD on a rail? Correct me if I'm wrong.
(https://i.ibb.co/BZyS1rk/Screen-Shot-2020-11-11-at-3-09-14-am.png)
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
Nah I haven't :'( Mason's only put out the one part via Thrasher as well. The 2nd Real 'part' felt a tad on the nose. Clearly a lot of it is footage that didn't make the cut for his Nike or other Real part, as there's overseas footage. Not a diss to Mason at all, I've enjoyed his year a lot, just think Elijah has a real good chance of taking it.
just seriously laughed out loud at how fucking crazy that is. that rail is so big in person
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Greg Hunt seems to be back in his sick portraits bag too. That’s when you know it’s about to get heavy.
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
hate to always be this guy but can someone scan the photos? i would really appreciate it
I have an online subscription, and this is the only one I could get with the view being restricted due to the app I use. There's also a Nollie Flip Bs 50-50 down a 9 stair rail, which I think is a NBD on a rail? Correct me if I'm wrong.
(https://i.ibb.co/BZyS1rk/Screen-Shot-2020-11-11-at-3-09-14-am.png)
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If the photos in the Elijah Thrasher cover are anything to go by, I think he's in with a chance for SOTY. Thrasher is in bed with Vans more so than Nike too, and Elijah has the 'cool' sponsors, if we get a full 6+ min part with that calibre of skateboarding, it could be hard to say no. Also it'd be nice to see a win based off of one project as opposed to an almost too obvious campaign from Mason.
I’m not sure if you’ve heard of Real and DLX before.
Nah I haven't :'( Mason's only put out the one part via Thrasher as well. The 2nd Real 'part' felt a tad on the nose. Clearly a lot of it is footage that didn't make the cut for his Nike or other Real part, as there's overseas footage. Not a diss to Mason at all, I've enjoyed his year a lot, just think Elijah has a real good chance of taking it.
appleyard does it here
https://youtu.be/XtY0FCHSnvg?t=1398 (https://youtu.be/XtY0FCHSnvg?t=1398)
Ishod does one in I think the most recent sabotage video. And didn’t malto do it on that atl rail last year too? Or was that front side?
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SOTY part for Elijah, mark my words.
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holy shit that nose grind nollie flip. i really hope the 5050 isn’t his ender, i hope he has a last trick that hasn’t been printed in a mag and will really surprise everyone. vans has been pretty good at not spoiling enders in the last few videos. we’ll see.
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Gil & Berle is such a sick combo. Stoked to see this. Surprised Rowan isn't involved, seems like he would have a shot at SOTY based on everyones love for him.
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That's a sick trick, but I feel like that is his go to everything so it's not even surprising
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Am I tripping or was this originally Damn Shawty OK?
That Chima part to Spinning Away is one of my all time favorite parts and I watch it regularly
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Am I tripping or was this originally Damn Shawty OK?
That Chima part to Spinning Away is one of my all time favorite parts and I watch it regularly
You're right, that China part is dope. I rewatch all the time.
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Am I tripping or was this originally Damn Shawty OK?
That Chima part to Spinning Away is one of my all time favorite parts and I watch it regularly
You're right, that China part is dope. I rewatch all the time.
yeah that part's awesome
i'm more stoked for gilbert's stuff than elijah's
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I like baggier fits on most but anyone else feel like Gilby's skating looked better with his Propeller fits? I know I might be alone but I the way his leg bows just looks better to me in slimmer jeans. Sorry in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mTt0CVf9yg
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Am I tripping or was this originally Damn Shawty OK?
That Chima part to Spinning Away is one of my all time favorite parts and I watch it regularly
You're right, that China part is dope. I rewatch all the time.
yeah that part's awesome
i'm more stoked for gilbert's stuff than elijah's
The Chima run from Propeller through Spinning Away is one of my favorites. He also sneakily had some of the best tricks in “No Other Way.” Switch back tail on bricktown was amazing.
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I like baggier fits on most but anyone else feel like Gilby's skating looked better with his Propeller fits? I know I might be alone but I the way his leg bows just looks better to me in slimmer jeans. Sorry in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mTt0CVf9yg
im usually team baggy but i see where ur coming from here. only a small portion of skaters can make tight pants work, and Gilby definitely fits within that quota
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I like baggier fits on most but anyone else feel like Gilby's skating looked better with his Propeller fits? I know I might be alone but I the way his leg bows just looks better to me in slimmer jeans. Sorry in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mTt0CVf9yg
im usually team baggy but i see where ur coming from here. only a small portion of skaters can make tight pants work, and Gilby definitely fits within that quota
As someone who's been the biggest Gilbert fan for years and is very picky about the way that my pants fit, I can definitely see where you guys are coming from. Gilbert had the slim straight pants look nailed during this period. I remember showing my friends his Old Dominion part and being like, "this is how I want to dress and skate" lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY0zUMPCOek
Still love his current wide leg fits though. I'm patiently waiting for the day that I say fuck it and buy a pair of the jeans that he makes.
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Am I tripping or was this originally Damn Shawty OK?
That Chima part to Spinning Away is one of my all time favorite parts and I watch it regularly
You're right, that China part is dope. I rewatch all the time.
yeah that part's awesome
i'm more stoked for gilbert's stuff than elijah's
The Chima run from Propeller through Spinning Away is one of my favorites. He also sneakily had some of the best tricks in “No Other Way.” Switch back tail on bricktown was amazing.
Chima pretty much always delivers. Is Spinning Away part was unreal.
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I like baggier fits on most but anyone else feel like Gilby's skating looked better with his Propeller fits? I know I might be alone but I the way his leg bows just looks better to me in slimmer jeans. Sorry in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mTt0CVf9yg
im usually team baggy but i see where ur coming from here. only a small portion of skaters can make tight pants work, and Gilby definitely fits within that quota
As someone who's been the biggest Gilbert fan for years and is very picky about the way that my pants fit, I can definitely see where you guys are coming from. Gilbert had the slim straight pants look nailed during this period. I remember showing my friends his Old Dominion part and being like, "this is how I want to dress and skate" lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY0zUMPCOek
Still love his current wide leg fits though. I'm patiently waiting for the day that I say fuck it and buy a pair of the jeans that he makes.
I like the look and feel of baggier. I just think its a shame when someone like gilbert who has a very unique style hides a lot of it under pant fabric. I know I'm over analyzing. Still will look forward to whatever he puts out.
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Still my favorite Gilbert part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7Sih6yaCg
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TODAY!
https://youtu.be/f4ZzHtww6Tc
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Wow, so they're using that Roy Orbison song for a fourth time now? I'm a fan of Greg Hunt but that song's been done to death and it's the second time he's bit off a Jacob Harris soundtrack...
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gilbert sitting on a ledge i assume is the ender
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“Cream of Gold” is a pretty random Pavement song. Dollars to donuts says a Crockett line will start at the part of the song that goes, “So much for destiny.”
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premieres at 5PM PST on the Vans website, i believe.
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If you google "Vans, Alright OK" it brings up the YouTube link, and it's listed at a 31:09 run time. I find that hard to believe.
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
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If you google "Vans, Alright OK" it brings up the YouTube link, and it's listed at a 31:09 run time. I find that hard to believe.
Big Crockett part, montage, Justin Henry, Big Elijah part seems like it could fill that timeframe
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
What if - now stay with me here - people watch certain skateboarding videos for personal enjoyment, and not to determine who is worthy of an award with no defined criteria?
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
What a bold prediction.
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so stoked for the inevitable and rancorous pants discussion
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I'm very excited for this. I've really enjoyed all the Vans projects that just focus on a couple riders and I'm a big fan of everyone involved in this one. (especially Greg Hunt)
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so stoked for the inevitable and rancorous pants discussion
They definitely chose Elijah/Gilbert to fan the flames of trousers warfare in these polarized times. I'm waiting patiently, refreshing my screen and ready to talk about leg openings
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
What a bold prediction.
No shit. Read the last page of this thread where people are, for some reason, calling Berle for SOTY.
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
What if - now stay with me here - people watch certain skateboarding videos for personal enjoyment, and not to determine who is worthy of an award with no defined criteria?
Woaahhh
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
For me, the real winner this year is the viewer and
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.1hG6mY8bGLk0uYAqZwzJOgHaFj?w=244&h=183&c=7&o=5&dpr=2&pid=1.7)
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Mason is winning SOTY. There's no way anything in this video is taking the title from him. Quote me on that.
What if - now stay with me here - people watch certain skateboarding videos for personal enjoyment, and not to determine who is worthy of an award with no defined criteria?
Say whaaat. Bro everyone knows skateboarding is purely competitive and every part is about getting some kind of award.
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They definitely chose Elijah/Gilbert to fan the flames of trousers warfare in these polarized times. I'm waiting patiently, refreshing my screen and ready to talk about leg openings
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While we're speaking about clothes, I wonder how much controversy Elijah will create with his new fits.
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While we're speaking about clothes, I wonder how much controversy Elijah will create with his new fits.
The Malibu living look doesn't bother me. He's making (even more) money now and he can dress however he wants – preteen Corey Duffel look included – so long as he keeps skating like he does.
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so stoked for the inevitable and rancorous pants discussion
They definitely chose Elijah/Gilbert to fan the flames of trousers warfare in these polarized times. I'm waiting patiently, refreshing my screen and ready to talk about leg openings
fit of the year is definitely not decided yet
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While we're speaking about clothes, I wonder how much controversy Elijah will create with his new fits.
it's literally the reason some of us are watching
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While we're speaking about clothes, I wonder how much controversy Elijah will create with his new fits.
it's literally the reason some of us are watching
Can confirm, best believe I'm going to be asking what pants everyone in this video are wearing
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Very juiced for this, two of my favs. I expect them both to have incredible parts, its hard to beat 4 great parts from Mason in the SOTY race. Gilbert, Mason, and Berle surely could give a shit less about SOTY which makes me all the more happy one of them is getting it (likely Mason imo)
I love Roy Orbison as much as the next man but christ it's been used 4 times?! that's not a great look. Do we know the music already?
Expecting great music, fits, spots, editing, and skating.
Edit: I'll check my own nonsense
What’s next on the horizon for you?
After this year, I just want to keep it going. It would be really cool to get SOTY. Not putting that out there… One of my biggest accomplishments—and one I’ve always set out for—was getting a shoe. Now that’s happened, if I were to imagine anything being as big as a pro shoe, it would be SOTY. If I can achieve both of those in one year, I wouldn’t even know what to say. I couldn’t ask for anything more than that. I’d probably look back at this year as one of the better years of my life. It’d be cool to have that, or at least to be able to say I tried as hard as I could to do that. This year I’m going to work my ass off, skate as much as I can, and try to travel. Just get as much stuff done as I can, and we’ll see what comes from it next year.
From: https://www.monsterchildren.com/future-skateboarding-elijah-berle/
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If you google "Vans, Alright OK" it brings up the YouTube link, and it's listed at a 31:09 run time. I find that hard to believe.
Big Crockett part, montage, Justin Henry, Big Elijah part seems like it could fill that timeframe
So supposedly there's a pre-recorded 'live set' of Danny Garcia playing beforehand, hence the longish run time.
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If you google "Vans, Alright OK" it brings up the YouTube link, and it's listed at a 31:09 run time. I find that hard to believe.
Big Crockett part, montage, Justin Henry, Big Elijah part seems like it could fill that timeframe
So supposedly there's a pre-recorded 'live set' of Danny Garcia playing beforehand, hence the longish run time.
Oh, sick, that sounds like exactly what everyone wants to see promptly at 5:00: an acoustic set instead of a skate video.
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If you google "Vans, Alright OK" it brings up the YouTube link, and it's listed at a 31:09 run time. I find that hard to believe.
Big Crockett part, montage, Justin Henry, Big Elijah part seems like it could fill that timeframe
So supposedly there's a pre-recorded 'live set' of Danny Garcia playing beforehand, hence the longish run time.
Yeah I don’t think there’s a montage. Just the Elijah part and Gilbert with some Justin in it. So hyped for this!
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Get your boner pants ready, y’all.
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But when will it be released online?????
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But when will it be released online?????
5pm PST, I heard
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Alright, ok I'm definitely looking forward to this in a few
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If you google "Vans, Alright OK" it brings up the YouTube link, and it's listed at a 31:09 run time. I find that hard to believe.
Big Crockett part, montage, Justin Henry, Big Elijah part seems like it could fill that timeframe
So supposedly there's a pre-recorded 'live set' of Danny Garcia playing beforehand, hence the longish run time.
Oh, sick, that sounds like exactly what everyone wants to see promptly at 5:00: an acoustic set instead of a skate video.
lol youtube chat is pissed
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Whoa impossible noseblunt
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I forgot what Gilbert Crockett looks like. Can anyone remind me? Maybe if there was a shot of his face between every other trick in his part, that would help.
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Berle dresses like a Gas Station Attendant
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cool pants
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nice dogs
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Gilberts part was.....underwhelming?
I know the song has been used multiple times before, but that Roy Orbison track went incredibly well with Elijah's 'hammer' section.
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Greg Hunt always and forever <3
Heavy Ethan Fowler vibes coming from Elijah and I mean that in the best way possible.
Gilbert Crockett is incredible and unique and wow.
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bonkers.
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Elijah Berle attempting to do the Austyn Gillette thing, where he tries to trick people into thinking he's hot through sheer force of will
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Elijah's skating is great, but does anyone feel like he's cosplaying Dylan? In the arms and fits.
Also, his first line he had total Dill arms. He's an amazing talent, but it feels disingenuous.
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Excellent video. Top tier all around.
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(https://calisphere.org/clip/500x500/30a5d4aa557b8056c011f0b6af804f84)
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2 great parts that complimented each other. good to see both these dudes producing great footage.
big fan of the build up and live premiere rather than just a thrasher drop. props!
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Gilberts part was.....underwhelming?
I know the song has been used multiple times before, but that Roy Orbison track went incredibly well with Elijah's 'hammer' section.
This part is without a doubt some of the most powerful switch skating ever documented. You’re tripping.
Can’t wait to rewatch this.
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D Gar’s music is beautiful.
Pavement’s sick but Gil’s edit was weird, like it was made to play in a Vans store. Strong fits but not his best part.
Berle did some really sick noseblunts. Reusing that Roy song and having the ender spoiled sucks, but great stuff nonetheless. Unless he does have an FA part coming out soon that seriously one-ups this one, I’d say it’s still Mason’s.
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Gilberts part was.....underwhelming?
I know the song has been used multiple times before, but that Roy Orbison track went incredibly well with Elijah's 'hammer' section.
This part is without a doubt some of the most powerful switch skating ever documented. You’re tripping.
Can’t wait to rewatch this.
I just said this aloud as I need a rewatch. Loved it.
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Elijah's skating is great, but does anyone feel like he's cosplaying Dylan? In the arms and fits.
Also, his first line he had total Dill arms. He's an amazing talent, but it feels disingenuous.
I agree with this. Ripping skater but just be yourself dude. Also never flip off the camera ever again.
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Gilberts part was.....underwhelming?
I know the song has been used multiple times before, but that Roy Orbison track went incredibly well with Elijah's 'hammer' section.
This part is without a doubt some of the most powerful switch skating ever documented. You’re tripping.
Can’t wait to rewatch this.
^^THIS
was thinking the same thing but just rewatched and my fucking god! the line where he does a perfect sw nosegrind, sw back 180 over that rock bench, and then the cherry on top kflip crook! this part will be on repeat for sure
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ZzHtww6Tc
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Felt bad for Danny Garcia, he was getting roasted in the youtube chat. He's got a solid voice.
Gilbert's heelflip nose manual into the kinked thin bank, and b/s flip fakie nose manual switch 180 really stood out to me.
Berle was good. Liked the Photosynthesis ode at the beginning with the table.
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This sucked. Elijah is the corniest dude in skateboarding and did nothing surprising or unexpected. Reusing the Roy Orbison song for a fourth time was also weak as fuck. On the other hand, Gilbert's footage was great (as was his song) and deserves to be presented without obnoxious and unnecessary b-roll shots between every other clip.
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There where some bangers but pretty boring Especially seeing Elijah just jacking people's style and pushing down the street after tricks..
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Just finished - gil’s nollie inward heel over the guard rail & dyl.. I mean Donovan pisco.. I mean austy... I mean Elijah Berle’s impossible noseblunt was tight.
I mean Corey Duffel cosplayer
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(https://media.tenor.com/images/74199b9f3db4ca2ab06797b7254aee00/tenor.gif)
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“Cream of Gold” is a pretty random Pavement song. Dollars to donuts says a Crockett line will start at the part of the song that goes, “So much for destiny.”
Hey, I was right. Neat.
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Pretty underwhelming tbh. I love Gilbert but that was my least favorite part of his to date. Elijah Berle is good but he’s so damn corny it’s hard to watch.
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Did Elijah skate in his pro shoe in any of the clips?
If so, was there b-roll of him picking gravel out of the sole?
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Elijah Berle attempting to do the Austyn Gillette thing, where he tries to trick people into thinking he's hot through sheer force of will
He's doing so much that it would be rude not to get at least a little horny
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STOP FUCKING ZOOMING IN FOR NO FUCKING REASON ON STATIONARY SHOTS IT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING SHIT. ITS NOT INTERESTING OR ORIGINAL GET FUCKED
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That was okay...
I love Gilbert and I love Pavement, but as it's been said it could use a re-edit for sure. Elijah had some great tricks, but the blatant Dylan cosplay was borderline uncomfortable at times. The enders being spoiled was a bummer as well. I'll watch it again when it autoplays on YouTube for me one day.
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This sucked. Elijah is the corniest dude in skateboarding and did nothing surprising or unexpected. Reusing the Roy Orbison song for a fourth time was also weak as fuck. On the other hand, Gilbert's footage was great (as was his song) and deserves to be presented without obnoxious and unnecessary b-roll shots between every other clip.
This ^^
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part of the year for berle no doubt. impossible noseblunting the table was fucked. bummer last trick was spoiled but the last two were insane
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(https://i.imgur.com/D8AryZy.jpg)
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Eh Alright, that was ok.
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Berle loves to not skate in his pro model shoe. Like 60% was done in eras/authentics. I wonder if Vans ever gives him shit for it?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Fskyd1Yh/dillfrontsidegrab280.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I liked Gilbert's part, but not as much as his others.
Berle seriously annoys me.
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could Elijah try any harder to be anyone but himself? Cute bag for his shitty art. what kind of Zine is this fuck stick making? Go back to dressing like duffle or at least go back and be the trunk boy we know you are. hard pass
you might not realize it but he and jagger eaton are essentially the same person.
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It was good but didn't live up to the hype in any way in my book.
Gilbert had great stuff as he always does (the flatground heelflip over the stone bench at the beginning of one of the lines was amazing), but I don't think this was his best part.
Berle's part wasn't anywhere near what I'd been pushed to expect.
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Some mind blowing tricks from Elijah, but damn, high waters, tucked in wife beaters and slicked back hair. He should go back to dressing like Duffel lol. Either way, it was a good part.
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pretty sure berle's second song was used for a nestor judkins part if im not mistaken. I dont feel like checking, but i know i heard that song before in a video
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pretty sure berle's second song was used for a nestor judkins part if im not mistaken. I dont feel like checking, but i know i heard that song before in a video
You are correct. It was also used in the credits for Vase.
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Lots of great tricks - Gilbert had a dope manual trick in a random alleyway no one ever bothers to skate in Vancouver. He clearly was not happy with that switch flip 5-0 that didn't really grind at the end of that one line, and I kind of like that he used it anyway. Seems more human.
I'm also firmly in the "Berle is biting Dylan" camp, so although he's sick, the whole cosplay thing really ruins it for me. I have a feeling that impossible noseblunt slide was booger, hence the angle. Nitpicking.
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Now THAT is what a call a conversation starter around pants.
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Mostly stoked on Greg Hunt’s work on this...
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Felt bad for Danny Garcia, he was getting roasted in the youtube chat. He's got a solid voice.
Gilbert's heelflip nose manual into the kinked thin bank, and b/s flip fakie nose manual switch 180 really stood out to me.
pants jokes aside, this
also nosegrind nollie flip, but I like it better when I don't know what to expect for the ender
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"If its fkn warm enough to go without sleeves, then it is fkn warm enough to go without a beanie."
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"i hate him"
the wife on elijah
stoked my hometown waterfall got the ender
Taughannock!
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That was ok. Gilbert will get some replay. Way too much b-roll. Ty Evans has done irreparable damage to skate videos. It's so stifling to split parts up with some random film clips, it kills the momentum. Not even Gilbert's beautiful dogs could redeem that shit. Any talk of Elijah SOTY feels like a VF Corp Psy-op. Who are they kidding? I Disagree with whoever appreciated the premiere and the marketing leading up to this. If it had just dropped randomly it would have hit way harder. And to add to everyone else's gripe, how are they going to pick that Roy track? There are so many other songs that haven't been used...incredibly dumb and lazy editing to use that song.
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gilbert probbaly one of my favs of all time but kinda seems like he lost ‘it’d, could be from all the injury trouble he’s had. elijah is terrible
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I enjoyed it. Certainly not the mind blowing part it was built up to be, but definitely a fun watch. Biggest take away was a reminder that Justin Henry isn’t pro and that’s a travesty
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I’m just excited people are putting Pavement in edits again.
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That was sick. I liked Gilberts part. Elijahs footage was sick, but felt a bit contrived and forced.
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Berle loves to not skate in his pro model shoe. Like 60% was done in eras/authentics. I wonder if Vans ever gives him shit for it?
Not to mention when he does actually wear it it looks terrible on him
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fun fact, the building elijah wallrides at 25:34 is a Tinder office space
also elijah is so fuckn corny it hurts to watch why cant the dude just look comfortable in his own skin he's too good at skating to ruin his footage with this weird shit
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I wanna see Berle's part re-edited with a Bobcat Goldthwait cover of Never Tear Us Apart to really drive home the vibes.
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The whole Dylan thing is just so blatant with Berle that I’m actually surprised Dill let’s him get away with it. Especially now that he’s basically doing all of the same tricks. Dill mentioned Dylan would have someday impossible noseblunted a table one day in his Bobshirt interview.
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Still think gilbert's skating looks better in slimmer pants despite baggy looking better on most ppl. His legs are swimming in those things.
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Sick video
Elijah Berle is something, I never been so impressed by a skater that I thought looked so stupid lol.
Also reusing that Roy Orbison song from Vase was a violation I wasn’t expecting from Greg Hunt.
Edit - Since everyone else is shitting on Elijah let me add this: This nigga does the same shit college girls do where they dress like the female version of whoever they’re dating.
He was baby duffel, then diet Anti-hero because Crail was on their dicks, now he fake Dylan because Dill cuts his checks. I wonder what kind of track suits he’s going to wear once Palace picks him up.
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Fuck that was so incredibly sick on absolutely all fronts, and like i predicted for myself I loved it. Gilby's edit with the Pavement track and then the D Gar enders was just bliss, his score in general. Link Wray and Roy are two of my all time favs so i felt they were perfect choices as well. I thought using the Roy song again was a little tasteless but i love Roy and that song so much i'll over look it. Justin Henry a nice touch, he rules.
I think Elijah had my favorite part of the year, but Mason had 4 good ones which is pretty damn hard to turn down. Gilby, Austyn, Jake, BDK with 2 great ones, Tom Knox... All prior mentioned being my favs out right now. Lots of great parts this year.
Was there anything not to like about that in your opinion?
Dylan is Top 3 for me so when i hear all the Elijah cosplay stuff i fully agree, some nods are totally acceptable but that was over the top. The part where he comes into the table (just like Dylan Huf tribute video), Slicked back hair, the middle finger to the camera (self explanatory Dylan), the outfits, every one (admittedly i dress fairly similar, i'm not a pro on similar sponsors etc though either), the impossible noseblunt like Dill said (that one can be a nod), i believe it was Bill that said impossible a table the long way which someone mentioned (that or switch what bill and Dill said)
I see just as much AVE influence in Berle though really... Both AVE and Dylan hugely influenced me as well in full disclosure
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Could of used a team/guest montage between parts.
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Have not watched yet, but love gilbert footage along with hunt behind the camera.
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The whole Dylan thing is just so blatant with Berle that I’m actually surprised Dill let’s him get away with it. Especially now that he’s basically doing all of the same tricks. Dill mentioned Dylan would have someday impossible noseblunted a table one day in his Bobshirt interview.
i thought he said he was planning to impossible a table long ways? i’m torn, it is blatant and obvious that he’s ripping his look but, he’s also very good at skateboarding. he doesn’t necessarily mimic the dylan arm streeze, it’s mostly clothing/appearance. if anyone else put out that part without the song/outfits/contrivance everyone would be fully on board.
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I don’t think it’s a problem to be inspired by a skater you look up to, where they influence your skating and even the way you dress, but it looks like Elijah went to fuckyeahdylanrieder.tumblr.com and analyzed every fit Dylan wore and tried to copy all of them. Maybe it’s because Dylan’s style was so specific that it looks so annoying that you know exactly where it’s from? Even Austyn has started to drift off from Dylan cosplay to have a bit of his own style. I guess what I’m trying to say here is I like Gilbert Crockett’s dogs....
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The whole Dylan thing is just so blatant with Berle that I’m actually surprised Dill let’s him get away with it. Especially now that he’s basically doing all of the same tricks. Dill mentioned Dylan would have someday impossible noseblunted a table one day in his Bobshirt interview.
i thought he said he was planning to impossible a table long ways? i’m torn, it is blatant and obvious that he’s ripping his look but, he’s also very good at skateboarding. he doesn’t necessarily mimic the dylan arm streeze, it’s mostly clothing/appearance. if anyone else put out that part without the song/outfits/contrivance everyone would be fully on board.
You’re right. He does mention both...and I definitely thought there was a good chance we’d see both in this part.
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Gilbert's part was definitely underwhelming. Good tricks, but I did not like the edit.
I agree with all the Berle critiques. Great talent, but is just singing other people's songs.
The Outsiders/50s greaser thing does not play in a modern setting for me. (Especially in a strip mall.) Between the film types, music, outfits, and modern city scapes I got lost in a mashup of competing eras and aesthetics. Do I get jazzed to go skate or am I remembering a fallen soldier?
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Opposite ollies over bump to bars and the frontside 360 over the rail into the bank were great displays of skateboarding.
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those fits ;D
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I liked Elijah’s part. I would have liked it more if he untucked his shirt and wore pants that reached his shoes but you can’t say he didn’t do crazy tricks.
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Lotta talk about Gil's part being underwhelming... It's gotta be pretty damn hard for him to top some of the stuff he's put out.
Exhibit A:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWw00imhlpg (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWw00imhlpg)
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Strange thing is i've been listening to lots of Pavement recently, that specific Link Wray album, add with that reading old D Gar interviews.
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Strange thing is i've been listening to lots of Pavement recently, that specific Link Wray album, coupled with reading old D Gar interviews.
@figureitout what's a good link wray album to start with?
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Came into this thread knowing full well the hot topic would be the dylan ripoff. It's even the trick selection, and I feel bad for criticizing him because I've liked his skating since his (brief) foundation/osiris days but God damn dude if I didn't know dylan. Was dead and was only vaguely watching out of peripheral I'd assume it was him.
Also idk what it is but I cannot get into Gilbert. Maybe it's his legs
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Strange thing is i've been listening to lots of Pavement recently, that specific Link Wray album, coupled with reading old D Gar interviews.
@figureitout what's a good link wray album to start with?
Definitely his self titled, where Elijah's song is from. Also "Be What You Want To" they're his first two after many 45s and Country singles like "Rumble"
The filming on Gilbert's lines was incredible, where he sw back 180's that egg thing! Will Rosenstock i suppose
lol many would say Elijah won the handsome shots but in my eyes Gilby did at 28:34-28:36 :)
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Came into this thread knowing full well the hot topic would be the dylan ripoff. It's even the trick selection, and I feel bad for criticizing him because I've liked his skating since his (brief) foundation/osiris days but God damn dude if I didn't know dylan. Was dead and was only vaguely watching out of peripheral I'd assume it was him.
Also idk what it is but I cannot get into Gilbert. Maybe it's his legs
I talked that shit before Elijah's second song. He's still a ripoff but he does honestly have a deeper bag of tricks than I remember
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Wait but guys it’s okay that Justin Henry has high waters and tucked in shirts right? And if we’re talkin baggy pants someone get Giovanni in here lol. Sick parts from both. Gilby rules.
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Wait but guys it’s okay that Justin Henry has high waters and tucked in shirts right? And if we’re talkin baggy pants someone get Giovanni in here lol. Sick parts from both. Gilby rules.
Edit: that rooftop euro gap spot is so cool.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ZzHtww6Tc
THANK U THIS VIDEO IS SICK
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Identity crisis or no Elijah is amazing at skating. The tech rail tricks where he was branching out from Dylan.’s bag of tricks were some of my faves. Particularly the nollie flip backside 50.
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Dylan’s hillBerle cousin rips. That fakie nose grind revert on a handrail was my favorite.
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I thought elijahs clothes were normal. He probably hasn’t ever had a blue collar job but that’s basically what most plumbers look like after their shifts. It’s not anything crazy.
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The whole Dylan thing is just so blatant with Berle that I’m actually surprised Dill let’s him get away with it. Especially now that he’s basically doing all of the same tricks. Dill mentioned Dylan would have someday impossible noseblunted a table one day in his Bobshirt interview.
i thought he said he was planning to impossible a table long ways? i’m torn, it is blatant and obvious that he’s ripping his look but, he’s also very good at skateboarding. he doesn’t necessarily mimic the dylan arm streeze, it’s mostly clothing/appearance. if anyone else put out that part without the song/outfits/contrivance everyone would be fully on board.
He 100% mimics the arm steeze - that's what makes it so bad. Look at the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank - at the end of the rideaway, he throws his front arm up and over his face for no reason except to look like dylan.
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I thought elijahs clothes were normal. He probably hasn’t ever had a blue collar job but that’s basically what most plumbers look like after their shifts. It’s not anything crazy.
Cue Ben Raybourn joke.
That fakie nose grind revert on a handrail was my favorite.
Loved that.
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D Gar and G Hunt set a serious vibe with that ender part, esp the shot indoors!
Any see some metal slide across the ground in Gilby's switch back 180 over the egg?
Gilbert's part was definitely underwhelming. Good tricks, but I did not like the edit.
I agree with all the Berle critiques. Great talent, but is just singing other people's songs.
The Outsiders/50s greaser thing does not play in a modern setting for me. (Especially in a strip mall.) Between the film types, music, outfits, and modern city scapes I got lost in a mashup of competing eras and aesthetics. Do I get jazzed to go skate or am I remembering a fallen soldier?
Well put +1
Dylan’s hillBerle cousin rips. That fakie nose grind revert on a handrail was my favorite.
so sick
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Skating was great from both but the distraction of watching Elijah Piscopo Reider Gilette was more pronounced than i expected
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Edit was a bit too much style over substance. Lot of fluff and run up between tricks. Loses some impact and feels like it's more about the 'video' than the skating. Elijah laid down some hammers but they kind of got lost in the dreamy commercial feeling edit. Just don't see big rewatch potential in the video as a whole, even though there were plenty of great clips in it.
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Love Gilbert, solid part from him.
Like everyone else, I would agree that Berle's fits seem a little forced and his trick selection was about what you'd expect...for the most part. The nollie flip back 50 was sick, fakie flip over the handicap ramp was dope as hell and the pupecki grind with the duct-taped hand was cool. Also enjoyed the fakie 5-0 revert on the handrail. smh to anyone calling it a nosegrind. It's true about his outfits though, they're distracting and it's like he wants you to believe he's a certain character or something, whether that's Dylan or just a blue collar worker.
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Gilgberts part had too much filler but I always like to watch him skate. After re-watching his mind blowing propellor part for the first time in a while last week it felt pretty lackluster.
I don't really care about what people wear really. Elijahs fits don't get to me, there's so much of that kinds of stuff in skating these days. The second part had some great tricks but the edit kind of bored me. Ender was ridiculous. There's still something about his skating I don't like though, maybe too many impossibles?
Overall a bit underwhelming. I'm also a bit tired of the all the lifestyle shots. Still put together and filmed well like you would from vans.
Some cool and different spots though. That step up school yard roof gap thingy was dope.
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I thought elijahs clothes were normal. He probably hasn’t ever had a blue collar job but that’s basically what most plumbers look like after their shifts. It’s not anything crazy.
This is just not true at all.....unless it's 1962. Most plumbers I know are likely wearing DVS shoes, baggy Krew jeans that are 8 years old and a hoodie/tee from a metal concert. But a mainstream metal band on a world tour, like Iron Maiden, Metallica or AC/DC
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was it ever explained why Justin Henry didn't have a full part?
seems like it would've been a good time to go pro if the footage was there
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Forgot to say I also think the roof top step up was cool as fuck. So was the Pupecki on the rail.
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Is Gilbert the love child of Puleo and Henry Sanchez?
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I liked Gilbert's part but prefer previous ones. Elijah annoyed me- maybe I'm the problem, repressing my jock greaser wannabe Dylan shadow?
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Skating was great from both but the distraction of watching Elijah Piscopo Reider Gilette was more pronounced than i expected
I had the same problem, I rewatched it to actually watch the gnarly skating because of how pronounced the Dylan steeze biting was
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I liked this whole thing, despite Eli's wild fits.
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justin henry dresses like a kook
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good gilby part. berle needs to figure out if he wants to be dill, dylan, or ave. also dont disrespect my man nestor by using his song.
http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/nestor-judkins-oververt-part/ (http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/nestor-judkins-oververt-part/)
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gilbert's part was alright, elijah's was ok.
gilbert was actually really really really good but the edit was kind of slow.
actually the whole video was edited like credits or something, weird.
elijah skates hard, but i'm just not a fan, sry. can't really get excited about him.
fits are whatever.
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Elijah's skating is great, but does anyone feel like he's cosplaying Dylan? In the arms and fits.
Also, his first line he had total Dill arms. He's an amazing talent, but it feels disingenuous.
good gilby part. berle needs to figure out if he wants to be dill, dylan, or ave. also dont disrespect my man nestor by using his song.
http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/nestor-judkins-oververt-part/ (http://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/nestor-judkins-oververt-part/)
Yes, Elijah immediately reminded me of late era AWS Dill.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2v6COqFy0
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Pants and Roy Orby usage aside,Greg did a good job creating a vibe. Gilbert and Elijah came through,not bummed...Actually it was a bummer that Elijah's ender was in Thrasher before the video dropped but that's nothing new in today's skate world.
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I know Greg Hunt loves b-roll and you have to expect it, but Gilbert's part was so poorly paced I'm actually bummed on watching it. Great skateboarding but you need look no further than his Quasi part to see b-roll pacing done right.
I love Pavement too but damn, that's about the 15th Pavement song in a major edit since Logan used them in the 917 video.
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was it ever explained why Justin Henry didn't have a full part?
seems like it would've been a good time to go pro if the footage was there
Quasi vid at the beginning of the year featuring him and Dane Barker
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Will probably only rewatch this to see Gilby's beautiful dogs.
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gilbert's part was alright, elijah's was ok.
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seen people in the background wearing masks in some of these clips so part of this was filmed during the pandemic. Hate to be that guy, but why can't these dudes put on a mask. It's not like they wear glasses and it fogs up their vision and they can't skate... Sure they might have kept their distance or whatever but it's such a small act that has massive upside. Berle wearing a mask woulda added some nice flair to his Dylan cosplay too.
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I read your comments, lets get back to whats really important: so no SOTY competition for mason?
jk, i liked both parts, but have to say my expectations were too high maybe. i guess thats what happens when youre too hpyed
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He looks more like Dill and sometimes more like AVE (because he went to the gym I guess) in this video and skates like Dylan. I enjoyed the video anyway. Gilbert is the best, I love seeing that frog jump crazy high
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lots of hammers, but the one trick that stood out was the bs 360 over the rail into the bank.
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That Elijah part was truely amazing!
To all the fashion critics debating, who he is trying to be: he‘s really copying Greco. You can expect the next versions of Elijah to be Glamrock-Elijah and Drag- queen Elijah.
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This video did not feel cohesive and it had too much not very interesting filler. Berle's skating is amazing but he's awkward looking in those lifestyle shots. He's kind of beefy and those fits look weird on him. Or maybe he just needs to be less self-conscious. I love Crockett's manuals. The way he 180'd out of that backside flip switch manual was hella tight.
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i liked it overall. gilbert's part was super sick and had a sick song.
elijahs part was good too. i understand the cosplaying-hate. i am no fan either.
i am normally not one of those guys (like weck), but what i cannot believe is that they let that impossible nosemanual on the picnic table slide and included it like this. he clearly touched so heavily with his nose when putting down the impossible into the nosemanual. you can easily see it if you pause at 11:19. come on. its an empty schoolyard with probably not a real bust factor and the surface of those tables is especially damn slick, which basically makes it impossible (lol) to fall/stop if you touch with your nose. better go back and do it again. for me it does not count. whatever.
i'll watch this video a couple of more times i guess.
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overall i enjoyed the video, but like many others couldn't stop thinking about dylan during elijahs part.
got me stoked to skate
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Greg Hunt has done all of his worst stuff for Van's and I say that as a big fan. This was just a lot of good tricks which doesn't carry a video anymore.
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this video is kinda getting the same response as propeller, its a great greg hunt video but sort of feels like it is still catering to the mall type with the type of edit. but we also can't get another mindfield or another one of his other work which are all really fucking good. i liked gilbert's stuff especially how he went back to that one ledge spot with a different kickflip back tail / back tail kickflip to fakie variation of his prior trick. typical berle stuff though he had a few standout tricks, the 5050 thrasher cover and the fs noseblunt on that hubba. too many impossibles for sure. dylan fits as expected. wish there was more justin henry footage but his instagram output is enough until the next quasi piece drops (which was mentioned will be january).
Wait but guys it’s okay that Justin Henry has high waters and tucked in shirts right?
justin's always kinda dressed like that, but never like corey duffel, though... and looks good in it, too.
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Greg Hunt has done all of his worst stuff for Van's and I say that as a big fan. This was just a lot of good tricks which doesn't carry a video anymore.
good skateboarding isn't good enough for a skateboarding video is really frustrating criticism to hear if you're greg hunt.
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Huge Gilbert fan but this felt more like a solid reiteration of what he has done before. I'll rewatch his older parts more than this. One stand-out trick was the Bs 180 Fakie Nosemanual bump to bar. Drop to Manuals rarely appeal to me but he made this look great. He keeps winning in the Backside tricks game.
As other have pointed out, Elijah's Dylan steeze made his part hard to watch. The repeated Impossibles added to this. Which is a pity, since he is an incredible skateboarder. Might rewatch to try and see beyond the annoyances. I am sure I'll discover some outstanding maneuvers. Not much stuck after the first viewing.
As far as the SOTY question is concerned, I've been camp Mason before and this didn't change my mind. Interestingly, both had the same rare (if not unprecedented) Fakie Flip bump to bar. I mean, is there really an argument to be had? To start with, Elijah picked a butt shot spot, the bar is much lower relative to the bump, and he lacks Mason's power.
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mason shiftied it a bit, but berle's looks like some luke-warm pop, so here's hoping that tyshawn does one perfect soon
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He keeps winning in the Backside tricks game.
that alley oop bs flip switch manual to regular... :o
http://youtu.be/f4ZzHtww6Tc?t=428
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Underwhelmed.
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that alley oop bs flip switch manual to regular... :o
http://youtu.be/f4ZzHtww6Tc?t=428
(7:08)
Wow, actually I somehow missed this one, absolutely beautiful.
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Elijah might be playing the classics but he's playing in a tribute band
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Brandon Biebel should at least get mentioned when dudes hit the gym and skate in wifebeater’s.
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At this point it seems like Berle is just acting as a coping mechanism for the FA team and they’re cool with that. Weird? Most definitely. Good skating though, however I was always partial to a bit of Dylan.
I’m not sure what exactly it’s lacking but even with all those forced inserts of his tatts and dogs it seem to lack Crockett’s identity compared to other parts, even though he did some stella manoeuvres .
With these comments I know I’ll receive some backlash but damn Greg Hunt, what happened dawg. I was so excited to get a video not trying to desperately imitate Strobeck for once and ended up watching something drab and well over-hyped. People were saying how Greg’s music selection is top class but this was completely unimaginative considering the last 4 years or so of skate videos.
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Alright, ok let's rewatch Tom Knox's part now..
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Alright, ok let's rewatch Tom Knox's part now..
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Elijah might be playing the classics but he's playing in a tribute band
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Man, I almost shut off when Elijah started... wtf was that shit? The dylan bite is borderline disrespectful.
When he did the impossible nosemanual the picnic table I had an instant flash to this dylan clip: 0:50 https://youtu.be/R6Ixmljb63g
You can say it’s homage, I say it’s bullshit.
Front the fits, arms gestures, slick hair, tricks, spots... even the middle fingers!
Dude’s a better Arne Stein at this point, what a joke.
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So when Dylan died, Dill didn't mourn. He was just like fuck this lets get a replacement. Skateboarding on Kpop boy band shit confirmed. Pretty upriver.
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Alright, ok let's rewatch Tom Knox's part now..
I wonder what Jacob Harris track Greg Hunt will rip off for his next video.
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justin henry dresses like a kook
you and the guy who made this post created an account just to post that. Was he mean to you guys in highschool or something
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that alley oop bs flip switch manual to regular... :o
http://youtu.be/f4ZzHtww6Tc?t=428
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my favorite trick in the whole thing
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Damn, tough crowd. I really enjoyed it.
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For the record Dylan would have never done a gross ass nollie flip sloppy slap out of a nosegrind. He would have gone mach 10 and popped out of it. Channeling his Gustavo ribeiro??
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the fake steez on the landings was too much. Gilberts tricks were cool
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i was wondering how the people that were close to dylan felt about the cosplay then i saw bills instagram this morning......
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SWITCH STANCE
Y’all need to rewatch Gilbert’s part and recognize that skating-wise it’s his best stuff (which is insane when you compare it to his Mystery or Fallen footage because that shit is soooo gnarly). Gil is literally one of the best to ever do it and this part cements it.
Editing wise what do you all expect? This isn’t a skate video, it’s a half hour long commercial with skating in it that’s cut to play in the background at malls with the sound off, hence all the film b-roll/life style shots.
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Editing wise what do you all expect? This isn’t a skate video, it’s a half hour long commercial with skating in it that’s cut to play in the background at malls with the sound off, hence all the film b-roll/life style shots.
Something that's not edited like complete dogshit would be nice. Spinning Away and No Other Way were created with the same principles in mind and those still managed to use interesting music and keep pointless b-roll shots to a minimum without sacrificing pacing.
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
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I wanna see Berle's part re-edited with a Bobcat Goldthwait cover of Never Tear Us Apart to really drive home the vibes.
Elijah skating to a cover song would make sense. His whole career is basically a cover.
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i'm currently skating the elijah shoe bc i got it on sale and they suck, they feel like skating dr martens and rocks get stuck in the sole
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Yeah. I wish he was cosplaying AVE or Stranger instead. If you watch his Pretty Sweet part you can see that he's always been an impossible and noseblunt kid. But he's really committed to the Dylan look and added some weird steeze. Which is unfortunate cause he was one of the better trunkboyz. It seems weird that Dill or AVE or Greg Hunt, who all knew Dylan really well, wouldn't call him out on it. AVE at least.
As far as Greg biting Harris: I kind of feel like the Roy Orbison works because "Dylan" Elijah has kind of a David Lynchian feel to everything he does.
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Man, I almost shut off when Elijah started... wtf was that shit? The dylan bite is borderline disrespectful.
When he did the impossible nosemanual the picnic table I had an instant flash to this dylan clip: 0:50 https://youtu.be/R6Ixmljb63g
You can say it’s homage, I say it’s bullshit.
Front the fits, arms gestures, slick hair, tricks, spots... even the middle fingers!
Dude’s a better Arne Stein at this point, what a joke.
Even the dog.
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Some have said this, but I think it woulda benefitted from a team montage in the beginning. EB seems like he was a spoiled kid growing up who also has a major talent. Weird vibe.
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Elijah looks like Paul Dano playing the role of Dylan.
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Gilby's part is missing one of his amazing backslide lipslides. Besides that I thought his part was great, equally as good as his Propeller part imo.
Really enjoyed DGar's score. Did anyone record the live stream of his performance by chance?
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Elijah might be playing the classics but he's playing in a tribute band
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Yeah. I wish he was cosplaying AVE or Stranger instead. If you watch his Pretty Sweet part you can see that he's always been an impossible and noseblunt kid. But he's really committed to the Dylan look and added some weird steeze. Which is unfortunate cause he was one of the better trunkboyz. It seems weird that Dill or AVE or Greg Hunt, who all knew Dylan really well, wouldn't call him out on it. AVE at least.
As far as Greg biting Harris: I kind of feel like the Roy Orbison works because "Dylan" Elijah has kind of a David Lynchian feel to everything he does.
where tf do you see that?
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An uncanny representation of 50s Americana, that belies the true darkness hidden under the surface?
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someone already said it, but damn, tuff crowd!
If you got issues with Berle's kits, I can understand, but his skating was fucked!!
and Gilbert rules.
for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
Lastly, I was really hoping for a surprise full Justin Henry part, but hearing he's got one coming early next year is sweet. Love that guys skating.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
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i was wondering how the people that were close to dylan felt about the cosplay then i saw bills instagram this morning......
Can you provide context? I don't have instagram.
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I'm just saying, I feel the hate is directed at Greg and shouldn't be.
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Yeah. I wish he was cosplaying AVE or Stranger instead. If you watch his Pretty Sweet part you can see that he's always been an impossible and noseblunt kid. But he's really committed to the Dylan look and added some weird steeze. Which is unfortunate cause he was one of the better trunkboyz. It seems weird that Dill or AVE or Greg Hunt, who all knew Dylan really well, wouldn't call him out on it. AVE at least.
As far as Greg biting Harris: I kind of feel like the Roy Orbison works because "Dylan" Elijah has kind of a David Lynchian feel to everything he does.
lmfaoooooo what the fuck does that mean, elijah is the type of dude to read a book with his finger tracing the words mouthing out the syllables with a Coors Lite flag on his wall behind him, not some brooding dystopian artist lmao yo SLAP is so lame now
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I'd like to see somebody use Conway Twitty - It's Only Make Believe. It's got a heavy Roy O vibe and has the 3 buildups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XbM7G-zJDY
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I'm just saying, I feel the hate is directed at Greg and shouldn't be.
Beyond laying out a timeline of footage, I think it's the editor's job to dissuade skaters from using wack music, cliché music, and tracks that have already been used. Greg Hunt dropped the ball in a lot of ways with this one, and letting this song make it past the suggestion stage is just one example of that.
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pretty sure berle's second song was used for a nestor judkins part if im not mistaken. I dont feel like checking, but i know i heard that song before in a video
Yeah Nestor skates to it in Oververt, than it was used in the Vase credits. How dare you do that to Nestor!
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay - but I get how it distracts some viewers from the skating. The second song is ok I guess. I imagine Nestor just shrugging and smiling charismatically about it. Anyways, they could've used this humdinger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJCuvOyBAw
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At the pretty sweet tour I bummed a cig off Lyjah and he was a total dick about it which was funny because it was a dick move by me, but he is a little bit younger than me so I thought we might be able to be civil but nope. He was better as a GT knockoff who did impossibles
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An uncanny representation of 50s Americana, that belies the true darkness hidden under the surface?
Exactly.
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Gilbert's part was definitely underwhelming. Good tricks, but I did not like the edit.
I agree with all the Berle critiques. Great talent, but is just singing other people's songs.
The Outsiders/50s greaser thing does not play in a modern setting for me. (Especially in a strip mall.) Between the film types, music, outfits, and modern city scapes I got lost in a mashup of competing eras and aesthetics. Do I get jazzed to go skate or am I remembering a fallen soldier?
This.
I was bummed I stayed up so late for this. It was cool but I guess they hyped it up too much for me. The impossible nose blunt was sick. Elijah looked like he was having fun. Nestor skated to the song better. That was lame using the same song.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
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I love Crockett's manuals. The way he 180'd out of that backside flip switch manual was hella tight.
p.s. Ethan Fowler's mystical grace should not even be in same discussion as Berle. It cannot be copied or duplicated.
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So a guy isn’t allowed to do impossibles while wearing a wifebeater tucked into skinny cuffed black jeans and cute little shoes and now that I’m typing this out I’m really starting to agree with you guys.
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So a guy isn’t allowed to do impossibles while wearing a wifebeater tucked into skinny cuffed black jeans and cute little shoes and now that I’m typing this out I’m really starting to agree with you guys.
those are Dickies
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ethan fowler is a racist cornball doing an easy rider cosplay, and elijah berle uses confederate flags to decorate his home in malibu or whatever socal laguna beach bullshit he's from, so yeah it makes sense.
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This was a great video. Wonderful skating, loved the music supervision. I had a very emotional reaction to hearing "Cream of Gold" tune up. Pavement is getting a lot of use lately.
I figured the Dylan Rieder/Elijah thing would come up, everybody calm down. Dylan definitely popularized a look, and he did it by drawing on a lot of other styles...I see bits of Rick Owens, Richard Hell, and of course peers of his like Dill. People naturally look to things they admire and make it their own, and Dylan was once a little Zero-inspired handrail chomper. I see bits of Dylan in Elijah's presentation, but I also see the East LA thing too. Let him live, he looks great.
My *only* complaint was that his board hit the ground first on his ender. I don't know why that had to be the ender when he had so many solid powerful makes otherwise.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
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It does kinda suck that we didn’t get to see the impossible nose blunt by Dylan. He would have done it really well.
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This was a great video. Wonderful skating, loved the music supervision. I had a very emotional reaction to hearing "Cream of Gold" tune up. Pavement is getting a lot of use lately.
I figured the Dylan Rieder/Elijah thing would come up, everybody calm down. Dylan definitely popularized a look, and he did it by drawing on a lot of other styles...I see bits of Rick Owens, Richard Hell, and of course peers of his like Dill. People naturally look to things they admire and make it their own, and Dylan was once a little Zero-inspired handrail chomper. I see bits of Dylan in Elijah's presentation, but I also see the East LA thing too. Let him live, he looks great.
My *only* complaint was that his board hit the ground first on his ender. I don't know why that had to be the ender when he had so many solid powerful makes otherwise.
Gonna listen to Richard hell after work now. I met him very briefly after he made an opening speech at a local movie theatre before a movie played. I mean with all sincerity Dude is the epitome of cool.
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i loved the skating but crocketts part had weird pacing and after not watching any elijah footage since propeller his kit made him look like a cartoon character to me, just a caricature of styles done better by other people, i also personally think the tucked in shirt and slicked back hair just looks awful on anyone
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I'd like to see somebody use Conway Twitty - It's Only Make Believe. It's got a heavy Roy O vibe and has the 3 buildups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XbM7G-zJDY
Love that song.
Since we’re on this musical path, I’d just like to bring up how great Blue Hotel by Chris Issak goes with Van Wastell.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=haxGi7Cz5eI
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Gonna listen to Richard hell after work now. I met him very briefly after he made an opening speech at a local movie theatre before a movie played. I mean with all sincerity Dude is the epitome of cool.
I'm jealous. Malcolm McLaren obsessed over Richard Hell, and when he managed the Sex Pistols, played "Blank Generation" for them so they could write their own version, "Pretty Vacant." Richard Hell is the source code.
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Fashion aside, that was some great skating by Elijah. The fakie flip over the bar, that nollie flip bs 50-50. His strongest part yet.
Gilbert never disappoints.
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https://youtu.be/M2XfUpk2jhM
Elijah's first line's outfit is Dill's exact outfit from Supreme's Buddy in 2012.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
But whatever, to each their own. I don't think Elijah's kit changing his nearly as damning as some other people who radically change their kits every 2 years or so. I'd rather watch someone bite this look than wear pants 20 sizes too big or w/e.
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I enjoyed this video.
Also something something, pants.
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Imagine the looks on their faces if you told the Menace guys and Lockwood locals in 1994 that LA Schoolyard skate fashion in 26 years would consist of medium t-shirts tucked into Dickies highwaters worn up to the belly button. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGNP1_-gjI
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it felt like this was made to play in their retail stores. they really want us to believe Elijah is cool and all but we already know he's a giant dorkus. never a good thing when your fits overshadow your tricks. gilbert gets a cool guy pass.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
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elijah, by the numbers
switch tricks: 1
guest tricks: 0
tricks involving an impossible: 38
tins of dapper dan's used: 7.5
total exposed length of socks shown, in kilometers: 11
number of own biceps kissed (includes off camera): 69
steely glances at the camera: 69
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Crockett bs flip switch manual 180 was sick! And really liked that Berle's upwards double 50-50 where he dodges that traffic sign.
Undoubtedly great skateboarding from both of them even if I wasn't completely blown away from the edit from the first view but definitely have already watched it more than once. And don't really care whether Berle's style icon is Brando, Mike Ness from Social Distortion or Dylan, dude looks good to me.
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I love Gil but Elijah was definitely the best part of the video. That 50 50 up that white rail was nutty.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
You're making too much sense for Slap.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
I meant it more like a genre of skater rather than an actual team member, but I've heard people make remarks about clothing about the two you mentioned as well as Piscopo. (which I think is misguided too, but I've heard it.)
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I thought the table flip was a bit on the nose, he's even biting someone when he stresses
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Imagine the looks on their faces if you told the Menace guys and Lockwood locals in 1994 that LA Schoolyard skate fashion in 26 years would consist of medium t-shirts tucked into Dickies highwaters worn up to the belly button. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGNP1_-gjI
its almost as if we are 26 years into the future 8) !!!!!
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slap fashion magazine messageboards...
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LOL they really were trying to sell that slightly buff bod of his in this vid. That table flip.... so strong!
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Imagine the looks on their faces if you told the Menace guys and Lockwood locals in 1994 that LA Schoolyard skate fashion in 26 years would consist of medium t-shirts tucked into Dickies highwaters worn up to the belly button. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByGNP1_-gjI
Pretty sure smartphones, President Trump, YouTube, Jake Johnson’s mindfield part, and PS5s would fuck them up even more.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
I meant it more like a genre of skater rather than an actual team member, but I've heard people make remarks about clothing about the two you mentioned as well as Piscopo. (which I think is misguided too, but I've heard it.)
I think that's the point, though: for someone as good as he is, and for someone on a team as outlandish as FA where everyone gains popularity simply for being themselves, it's weird that Elijah is actively pursuing some kind of "skateboarder archetype" instead of just being himself.
Also, everyone I mentioned + Piscopo's skating remained relatively unchanged during whatever phases. Elijah definitely picked up a few arm movements and is rocking the impossible way harder since his last part.
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I thought the table flip was a bit on the nose, he's even biting someone when he stresses
It was one of those, would he have done that if there were no camera?
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Some great skating, but most complaints are valid. Elijah is this generations Mikey Taylor when it comes to fashion.
Nitpicking here, but I think he went over the table for that impossible, so isn't it a impossible-back nose, not an impossible-front noseblunt, either way, an absolutely insane trick.
Was really hoping for more Justin Henry. With the music budget Vans likely has, can they stop re-using songs that were notable parts or in big-brand videos. They seem to be habitually guilty of this. They re-used music for Chima's Propeller part (Tognelli's part in Eleventh Hour) and Kyle Walker's No Other Way (Jake Hayes's Treat Yourself Part).
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
I feel Donovan Piscopo dressed like this all of his SB part.
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I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
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This was a great video. Wonderful skating, loved the music supervision. I had a very emotional reaction to hearing "Cream of Gold" tune up. Pavement is getting a lot of use lately.
I figured the Dylan Rieder/Elijah thing would come up, everybody calm down. Dylan definitely popularized a look, and he did it by drawing on a lot of other styles...I see bits of Rick Owens, Richard Hell, and of course peers of his like Dill. People naturally look to things they admire and make it their own, and Dylan was once a little Zero-inspired handrail chomper. I see bits of Dylan in Elijah's presentation, but I also see the East LA thing too. Let him live, he looks great.
My *only* complaint was that his board hit the ground first on his ender. I don't know why that had to be the ender when he had so many solid powerful makes otherwise.
Not so much Rick. I still see where you are coming from. What you probably mean is:
he was 100% hedi slimane/YSL influenced, who kind of "invented this look"
look up "hedi slimane male models" or something like this and you will see a lot of Dylans long before Dylan.
it is a good look tho, so I am not hating
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
You're making too much sense for Slap.
I tend to agree, but this isn't going from tight jeans to baggy jeans in a span of a couple years. Dude was having full Western photoshoots about 2 minutes after he was dressing as a cholo.
(https://www.monsterchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/monster-children-elijah-berle-andrew-peters.jpg)
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
I meant it more like a genre of skater rather than an actual team member, but I've heard people make remarks about clothing about the two you mentioned as well as Piscopo. (which I think is misguided too, but I've heard it.)
I think that's the point, though: for someone as good as he is, and for someone on a team as outlandish as FA where everyone gains popularity simply for being themselves, it's weird that Elijah is actively pursuing some kind of "skateboarder archetype" instead of just being himself.
Also, everyone I mentioned + Piscopo's skating remained relatively unchanged during whatever phases. Elijah definitely picked up a few arm movements and is rocking the impossible way harder since his last part.
Won't deny that, though he's always been a pretty heavy impossible doer. The influence is obvious and by no means do I think Elijah is the bastion of originality in skating, but I do think he gets ragged on harder than a lot of people who are clearly modeling themselves after skater archetypes. Hell, people said the same thing about John Shannahan/Josh Kalis, but even Kalis just looks like half the dudes I went to high school with. I realize that's a far less specific example than Dylan, but skating is such a small frame of reference. In between going to a bunch of indie rock shows and hipster bars, I feel like I've seen hundreds (maybe actual thousands) of "Dylan clones".
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I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
Wow, excellent photoshop skills.
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Enjoyed that video and not going to buy any vans, but enjoyed that video. Hopper was supposed to lip synch that song but couldn't remember the words, no accidents
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Nestor didn't just use that song, he had the whole intro pulling the Roy Orbison record off the shelf and all.
Gilberts skated some nice spots.
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Not so much Rick. I still see where you are coming from. What you probably mean is:
he was 100% hedi slimane/YSL influenced, who kind of "invented this look"
look up "hedi slimane male models" or something like this and you will see a lot of Dylans long before Dylan.
it is a good look tho, so I am not hating
Fair point, but I felt like Rick fed into that, particularly the kind of ragged, distressed, lived in feel Dylan adopted. But, you're right, Dylan was probably aware of Hedi and Dior Homme.
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I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
Now THESE I’m into!
Again, the major thing that makes Elijah feel weird and like a clone isn’t (just) his clothes. It’s his mimicking dylan.’s crouch and arm movements (and the large number of impossibles) that developed out of nowhere. And like someone else said the fact that everyone else on FA/Hockey feels like they’re naturally just who they are that Elijah feels more contrived.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
I meant it more like a genre of skater rather than an actual team member, but I've heard people make remarks about clothing about the two you mentioned as well as Piscopo. (which I think is misguided too, but I've heard it.)
I think that's the point, though: for someone as good as he is, and for someone on a team as outlandish as FA where everyone gains popularity simply for being themselves, it's weird that Elijah is actively pursuing some kind of "skateboarder archetype" instead of just being himself.
Also, everyone I mentioned + Piscopo's skating remained relatively unchanged during whatever phases. Elijah definitely picked up a few arm movements and is rocking the impossible way harder since his last part.
Won't deny that, though he's always been a pretty heavy impossible doer. The influence is obvious and by no means do I think Elijah is the bastion of originality in skating, but I do think he gets ragged on harder than a lot of people who are clearly modeling themselves after skater archetypes. Hell, people said the same thing about John Shannahan/Josh Kalis, but even Kalis just looks like half the dudes I went to high school with. I realize that's a far less specific example than Dylan, but skating is such a small frame of reference. In between going to a bunch of indie rock shows and hipster bars, I feel like I've seen hundreds (maybe actual thousands) of "Dylan clones".
I don't feel Kalis or Shanahan dressing like him ever really changed their style up. The reason Elijah gets ragged on, is the same reason Mikey Taylor did when he went from dressing hood in In-Bloom, to dressing like Jamie Thomas in his Etnies part, to dressing like he did in his DC part. It's more the trend hopping that gets clowned on, than the actual style. While tons of guys do what you'd call skater Cos-play, very few go from dressing like Duffel, to dressing Hesh to doing Dylan cos-play.
As for impossible, he's always done them, it was his ender in Pretty Sweet over a raid to a rough bank.
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I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
Wow, excellent photoshop skills.
yes, that is some fine digital craftsmanship! gnared
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Damn, really tough crowd with this one huh? I really like this edit as a whole. I thought that Greg Hunt did a good job at showcasing skating along with lifestyle shots. It felt refreshing and not like it was trying to follow the current trends.
Besides the dylan. fits and overall impersonation, I really enjoyed this video. Gilbert has so much power in his skating and has really figured out what way he wants to skate, and I thought it really showed in this edit. I do have to watch it again, but my initial impression was that this was my favorite of his parts to date. And speaking of pants, his part made me really want to get a pair of the $300 jeans that he makes.
Skating wise, Elijah is insane and at the top of his game. He might be one of only three people who have ever fakie flipped a wheelchair ramp. I had to replay the back 360 and double 5050 up multiple times. And as much as I loved Nestor's part to the Roy Orbison song, I have to admit that it worked really well in this part too.
The only thing that I can complain about was that Justin Henry didn't have a full part. I was really hoping for that, and for him to turn pro with the release. Glad to hear that he's got a part coming out soon enough!
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I mean, I liked Elijah's part quite a bit and I feel like his fits are more emulating Dylan plus Dill/Ethan Fowler/Alan Peterson and the classic "greaser" aesthetic more than just pure Dylanesque cosplay -
This is how I feel. I'm not blind to the comparison, but your frame of reference would have strictly begin and end with skateboarding to think that Dylan solely originated that look. And even if he did originate it, that's not what made him such a special skateboarder. Take a walk through any hip college city or look at a fashion blog and you'll see literally hundreds of "Dylan" clones, by this thread's metric. Plus Elijah's only 24, I guarantee half of this thread has hopped from trend to trend more than he's changed his kits. I know I sure as hell don't dress the same way I did 5 years ago.
He’s 26. The “Dylan look” was a thing 5-7 years ago, not 2020 where everything is baggy again. He is definitely trying to play into Dylan vibes more than trying to be hip, and it’s a little uncomfortable to look at.
Also if I was paid to ride skateboards and was that image cautious I would probably try to have my own look. Just saying.
I dunno, I've heard this for as long as I've been skating and even those with their "own look" can only be seen as original if your frame of reference is literally just skateboarding. Like I said, I'm not blind to the comparison but Elijah just looks like another FA/Hockey skater to me. Flooded Dickies and Vans have been around for awhile and they probably won't leave soon.
Who else dresses this way on FA or Hockey? The only person I can think of is K-Rod (occasionally) and that feels like a bit of a stretch, even Sean Pablo has his own weird little lane now where he wears skinny jeans and loud button ups.
I meant it more like a genre of skater rather than an actual team member, but I've heard people make remarks about clothing about the two you mentioned as well as Piscopo. (which I think is misguided too, but I've heard it.)
I think that's the point, though: for someone as good as he is, and for someone on a team as outlandish as FA where everyone gains popularity simply for being themselves, it's weird that Elijah is actively pursuing some kind of "skateboarder archetype" instead of just being himself.
Also, everyone I mentioned + Piscopo's skating remained relatively unchanged during whatever phases. Elijah definitely picked up a few arm movements and is rocking the impossible way harder since his last part.
Won't deny that, though he's always been a pretty heavy impossible doer. The influence is obvious and by no means do I think Elijah is the bastion of originality in skating, but I do think he gets ragged on harder than a lot of people who are clearly modeling themselves after skater archetypes. Hell, people said the same thing about John Shannahan/Josh Kalis, but even Kalis just looks like half the dudes I went to high school with. I realize that's a far less specific example than Dylan, but skating is such a small frame of reference. In between going to a bunch of indie rock shows and hipster bars, I feel like I've seen hundreds (maybe actual thousands) of "Dylan clones".
I don't feel Kalis or Shanahan dressing like him ever really changed their style up. The reason Elijah gets ragged on, is the same reason Mikey Taylor did when he went from dressing hood in In-Bloom, to dressing like Jamie Thomas in his Etnies part, to dressing like he did in his DC part. It's more the trend hopping that gets clowned on, than the actual style. While tons of guys do what you'd call skater Cos-play, very few go from dressing like Duffel, to dressing Hesh to doing Dylan cos-play.
I guess. But even someone like Duffel in his heyday only really looks unique within skateboarding specifically. If you saw him at a punk show or something he'd probably be one of the more mild looking people there in comparison. I guess that's my point. Elijah's wearing his influences on his sleeve, but I think pigeonholing those influences to just Dylan isn't really fair.
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
I didn't know if I should gnar or actually go check Dylan's grave to see if Elijah had dug him up and stolen his skin.
I gnared.
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Not so much Rick. I still see where you are coming from. What you probably mean is:
he was 100% hedi slimane/YSL influenced, who kind of "invented this look"
look up "hedi slimane male models" or something like this and you will see a lot of Dylans long before Dylan.
it is a good look tho, so I am not hating
in skateboarding imo danny garcia pioneered that look, not disagreeing that dylan was hedi slimane influenced, at least later on. but if you look back how he came to look that way and check back, he was looking a bit preppy when a time to shine released 2006 for example, wearing dunks and polo shirts and fairly loose pants at the time, after looking more like a grungy toy machine kid for some time.
2007 inhabitants came out where dgar had grown out hair and was rocking these indierocker styles with a fitted look to his clothes, pants that end above the ankle and a vibe between thrift and prep. i personally think this is where dylan picked up the ankle pant, white t/wifebeater thing. this was even before dill would stuck his wifebeater in his pants, i think he (dill) was still on dvs at the time. what i don't get about the berle/dylan comparison is, that berle seems very one note on the rock n'roller thing, while dylan looked way more eclectic(one could dare to say iconic) and couldn't be put into any shelf like that.
i'd also say there are similarities in style from dgar to dylan, i.e. something about the way they both (sw!)kickflip, with dylan again taking the style further and making it his own, but imo also taking cues about posture and how to land gracefully from dgar, without ever copying it.
this is just a theory, but it's been in my head for quite some time.
to all the people thinking it's ridiculuos we discuss clothes so much i'd say this: skateboard videos are a visual medium first, you will always have to look at clothed skaters in videos, so clothes are important from the fact alone that we are exposed to them so much. the industry also mainly thrives on soft goods and whole images and careers have been built on good or poor clothing choice in skateboarding, as ridiculous as that is. but clothing will always be important in skateboard culture.
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
I didn't know if I should gnar or actually go check Dylan's grave to see if Elijah had dug him up and stolen his skin.
I gnared.
Brink is gonna have to make room for a stack of these
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
I didn't know if I should gnar or actually go check Dylan's grave to see if Elijah had dug him up and stolen his skin.
I gnared.
You know Berle is seeing this and just roaming at the mouth for those shoes.
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Who also flipped a table like that? I feel like dill did??
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I ate too many edibles and had a panic attack watching this halfway through Berle’s part. I don’t think it was his fault but the timing wasn’t good.
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Ethan Fowler in Europe '95 is the genesis
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Man, I almost shut off when Elijah started... wtf was that shit? The dylan bite is borderline disrespectful.
When he did the impossible nosemanual the picnic table I had an instant flash to this dylan clip: 0:50 https://youtu.be/R6Ixmljb63g
You can say it’s homage, I say it’s bullshit.
Front the fits, arms gestures, slick hair, tricks, spots... even the middle fingers!
Dude’s a better Arne Stein at this point, what a joke.
Even the dog.
on third watch i realized that, for christ sakes he even got the same dog as Hank. Literally everything about this part was Dylan, may he rest in peace beloved.
Elijah looks like Paul Dano playing the role of Dylan.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
This was a great video. Wonderful skating, loved the music supervision. I had a very emotional reaction to hearing "Cream of Gold" tune up. Pavement is getting a lot of use lately.
I figured the Dylan Rieder/Elijah thing would come up, everybody calm down. Dylan definitely popularized a look, and he did it by drawing on a lot of other styles...I see bits of Rick Owens, Richard Hell, and of course peers of his like Dill. People naturally look to things they admire and make it their own, and Dylan was once a little Zero-inspired handrail chomper. I see bits of Dylan in Elijah's presentation, but I also see the East LA thing too. Let him live, he looks great.
My *only* complaint was that his board hit the ground first on his ender. I don't know why that had to be the ender when he had so many solid powerful makes otherwise.
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This was a great video. Wonderful skating, loved the music supervision. I had a very emotional reaction to hearing "Cream of Gold" tune up. Pavement is getting a lot of use lately.
I figured the Dylan Rieder/Elijah thing would come up, everybody calm down. Dylan definitely popularized a look, and he did it by drawing on a lot of other styles...I see bits of Rick Owens, Richard Hell, and of course peers of his like Dill. People naturally look to things they admire and make it their own, and Dylan was once a little Zero-inspired handrail chomper. I see bits of Dylan in Elijah's presentation, but I also see the East LA thing too. Let him live, he looks great.
My *only* complaint was that his board hit the ground first on his ender. I don't know why that had to be the ender when he had so many solid powerful makes otherwise.
Not so much Rick. I still see where you are coming from. What you probably mean is:
he was 100% hedi slimane/YSL influenced, who kind of "invented this look"
look up "hedi slimane male models" or something like this and you will see a lot of Dylans long before Dylan.
it is a good look tho, so I am not hating
you absolutely nailed it, Dylan was hugely inspired by Hedi, and both Dylan and Hedi were inspired by rock n roll 1955-1975ish.
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I can’t help but wonder how Dylan would be dressing today.
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I can’t help but wonder how Dylan would be dressing today.
Gilbert rules
Absolutely loved Gilbert's part...he never disappoints and always comes through with a memorable part...
When I saw Berle's shirt tucked in I yelled out loud: "Your trying to hard dude."
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Who also flipped a table like that? I feel like dill did??
AVE in the DC Video.
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Gilbert's shit was good but gonna have to agree with others that it's not my favorite part from him.
Berle went from being a Duffel clone, to a trunk boy, to a Dylan clone. He's good but the unoriginality kind of ruins it for me. I legit wouldn't be surprised if he was a Stevie Williams clone in his next part.
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Gonna listen to Richard hell after work now. I met him very briefly after he made an opening speech at a local movie theatre before a movie played. I mean with all sincerity Dude is the epitome of cool.
I'm jealous. Malcolm McLaren obsessed over Richard Hell, and when he managed the Sex Pistols, played "Blank Generation" for them so they could write their own version, "Pretty Vacant." Richard Hell is the source code.
I just wanna join in on the Richard Hell praise. His guitarist Bob Quine was amazing too. I don't think songs like Blank Generation would be quite as good without his guitar work.
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Dill in photo, during the intro.
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The edit really slowed the momentum of what would have been a lean, hard part & the inclusion of that front feeble was questionable but Gilbert continues his streak of extremely enjoyable parts. Not as "gnarly" as some of his others but I'll be stoked to watch him transition into more low impact stuff if that's the direction he heads. Dude is one of the best to ever do it.
Elijah is not an individualist, he's a cameleon. I enjoy him for what he is, not what he ain't.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
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David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
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I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
Trudged through this shit of a thread just to find this and gnar you.
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The edit really slowed the momentum of what would have been a lean, hard part & the inclusion of that front feeble was questionable but Gilbert continues his streak of extremely enjoyable parts. Not as "gnarly" as some of his others but I'll be stoked to watch him transition into more low impact stuff if that's the direction he heads. Dude is one of the best to ever do it.
Elijah is not an individualist, he's a cameleon. I enjoy him for what he is, not what he ain't.
What was wrong with the feeble?
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I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
incredible
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I let the video simmer and checked it out again today. Can't help but feel a little disappointed. I love Crockett but he's 30+ now and it's unreasonable to expect him to outdo his "Mother" part, and Berle's Dylan cosplaying is really distracting. If this dropped with zero hype it would have been great, but instead it just felt very slight.
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Monday Tuesday Wednesday...........
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Editing wise what do you all expect? This isn’t a skate video
I think everyone expected a skate video.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
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THANK YOU. I knew there was a third part that I had watched way more often than the Nestor part and Vase, and I was going insane trying to figure it out. Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy, most of that second part did not register for me.
Liked Gilbert though.
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Editing wise what do you all expect? This isn’t a skate video
I think everyone expected a skate video.
some people apparently saw mulholland drive or something
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
THANK YOU. I knew there was a third part that I had watched way more often than the Nestor part and Vase, and I was going insane trying to figure it out. Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy, most of that second part did not register for me.
Liked Gilbert though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYi3R_f5J8A
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I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
I actually just found a leak of Elijah's next shoe:
(https://i.imgur.com/dkc8YyW.jpg)
You can really feel his own vision in this one...
Now THESE I’m into!
Again, the major thing that makes Elijah feel weird and like a clone isn’t (just) his clothes. It’s his mimicking dylan.’s crouch and arm movements (and the large number of impossibles) that developed out of nowhere. And like someone else said the fact that everyone else on FA/Hockey feels like they’re naturally just who they are that Elijah feels more contrived.
i've always kind of rolled my eyes at the "elijah/dylan clone" thing but this was egregious.
I stopped the video to rewind after the first impossible. "nuh-uh" i said out lout to no one.
and fuck cuz it was still a sick impossible.
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Like I said, the most egregious example was after the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank. Awesome clip and then like 3/4 of the way down the bank, he throws his front arm in front of his face for no reason, except because it was something dylan. would have done naturally. His momentum was completely stopped and it just happened out of nowhere.
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Elijahs part was epic.
Probably the most boring lifestyle b-roll of all time in this video.
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I knew a guy in my hometown that went from French ghetto style (Adidas and Sergio Tacchini kits) to skatepark metal kid from the 2000s (Nirvana, Korg and Slipknot patches) to emo-ska (Converse, ties, and checkered belts) to straight-edge Scott Bourne-ish style (lots of tattoos, Vans, Dickies.)
When I moved out from my hometown he stopped being straight edge and started working as a barman, met an ultra conservative catholic priest and now he is posting racist and far right conspiracy stuff on Facebook.
An easy-influenced guy.
That said, Elijah is not changing outfits that much.
Maybe I was too hyped on that video but after watching things like Mason’s and Tom Knox’s parts I was a little disappointed. Maybe the edit was not for me, because the skating is great overall. I like Gilbert’s skating. Maybe too many fillers I don’t know.
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I'll just leave this right here for everyone...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGL1jZ2khAw
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elijah even got the same dog as dylan.
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Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy
haha that's pretty spot on.
to those saying "how can dylan's friends let elijah get away with this!?" .... clearly they don't think it's as big a deal as you do.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I'm just saying, I feel the hate is directed at Greg and shouldn't be.
if Hunt is responsible for those SUPER INTERESTING and UNIQUE shitty stationary zoom shots he can go fuck himself
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elijah even got the same dog as dylan.
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I cant say one negative thing about this vid
I love vans
I love both gilbert and elijah
the skating was awesome, to me they looked great wearing whatever they were wearing
greg hunt did a great job, loved all the lifestyle/filler shots, I think it always makes a skate video more enjoyable, rather than just it being a nonstop barrage of tricks with no soul in it (that is unless the lifestyler/filler shots arent some overly tryhard artsy wannabe stuff..)
all in all, to me vans is on a streak of producing very rewatchable skate videos
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loved all the lifestyle/filler shots, I think it always makes a skate video more enjoyable, rather than just it being a nonstop barrage of tricks with no soul in it
Nothing says soul like shots of a guy driving his Toyota.
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I actually didn’t mind Elijahs and Gilbs fits this time around.
Usually not a fan of either of their pant choices but I guess I’m coming around?
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And Look at what we are doing, talking about Elijah.
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And Look at what we are doing, talking about Elijah.
Hahahahaha! Would give you a gnar if I could.
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And Look at what we are doing, talking about Elijah.
Hahahahaha! Would give you a gnar if I could.
Gnar'ed for you. It's a very fitting quote.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
THANK YOU. I knew there was a third part that I had watched way more often than the Nestor part and Vase, and I was going insane trying to figure it out. Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy, most of that second part did not register for me.
Liked Gilbert though.
https://vimeo.com/54271773
Ok, so chronological
- Elijah, Vans (2020)
- Outro, Vase (2015)
- Nestor, Oververt (2014)
- David Clark, Quik (When did this come out???)
- Intro, Grain of Salt (2009)
Any more?? Like ColdPizza said, maybe it’s time just pick another Orbison song. I’ve always been partial to Crying, hits hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLC9o_unLq4
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the audacity to use a song from grain of salt, who hasn't seen that
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the audacity to use a song from grain of salt, who hasn't seen that
;D ;D ;D It’s a classic!!
Seriously though, if you think Louie didn’t rip this straight off for Oververt, you’re dreamin 8)
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So, forgive my ignorance...but has Hunt been outta the game for a bit or what?
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gilbys switch nose manual fakei flip out was the highlight
also, berly boy scrapped the nose on that impossible nose manual.
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The attire was ok.
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
I'm just saying, I feel the hate is directed at Greg and shouldn't be.
if Hunt is responsible for those SUPER INTERESTING and UNIQUE shitty stationary zoom shots he can go fuck himself
Genuinely wondering which types of shots you mean? Example clip reference?
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Mods please move this thred to https://www.styleforum.net/ LOL
But seriously SLAP could use a fashion board at this point.
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Mods please move this thred to https://www.styleforum.net/ LOL
But seriously SLAP could use a fashion board at this point.
There is already one. Shoes and Gear. Plenty of talk about pants, shoes and such.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?board=18.0
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ethan fowler is a racist cornball doing an easy rider cosplay, and elijah berle uses confederate flags to decorate his home in malibu or whatever socal laguna beach bullshit he's from, so yeah it makes sense.
Is this confirmed or just a slap rumor? How's he going to be on FA running confederate flags? A billion times kookier than the fits
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Like I said, the most egregious example was after the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank. Awesome clip and then like 3/4 of the way down the bank, he throws his front arm in front of his face for no reason, except because it was something dylan. would have done naturally. His momentum was completely stopped and it just happened out of nowhere.
yeah on second watch that's really hard not to notice
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Berle beamed the camera after every trick he landed like he was gonna win SOTY and it just really did not work out for him
Nosegrind nollie flip shouldn't have been the ender if he was gonna land it the way he did
There's always next year kid
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The attire was ok.
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Like I said, the most egregious example was after the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank. Awesome clip and then like 3/4 of the way down the bank, he throws his front arm in front of his face for no reason, except because it was something dylan. would have done naturally. His momentum was completely stopped and it just happened out of nowhere.
yeah on second watch that's really hard not to notice
Oh man, just watched it again, you’re right - once you see the matador arms after trick, it’s hard not to notice. He’s sure giving Beatrice a run for her money with the Dill arms. Still enjoyed it though.
And Elijah Duffell was rad!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HCu5almgxkM
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
THANK YOU. I knew there was a third part that I had watched way more often than the Nestor part and Vase, and I was going insane trying to figure it out. Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy, most of that second part did not register for me.
Liked Gilbert though.
https://vimeo.com/54271773
Ok, so chronological
- Elijah, Vans (2020)
- Outro, Vase (2015)
- Nestor, Oververt (2014)
- David Clark, Quik (When did this come out???)
- Intro, Grain of Salt (2009)
Any more?? Like ColdPizza said, maybe it’s time just pick another Orbison song. I’ve always been partial to Crying, hits hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLC9o_unLq4
https://youtu.be/wQ3gEpoBRgM
nate franks popular hit part from ‘weed sesh’ (2011)
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These teenagers from the 1950s are copying dylan as well wtf
(https://i.ibb.co/jrmXv2F/teenage-boys-on-a-step-underwood-archives.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jrmXv2F)
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
THANK YOU. I knew there was a third part that I had watched way more often than the Nestor part and Vase, and I was going insane trying to figure it out. Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy, most of that second part did not register for me.
Liked Gilbert though.
Any more?? Like ColdPizza said, maybe it’s time just pick another Orbison song. I’ve always been partial to Crying, hits hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpIWBxJxDC0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpIWBxJxDC0)
And just cause it's dope with another great soundtrack choice... what a difference a year makes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflqy608AnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflqy608AnA)
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Ben in Blue Velvet FTW, obvs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtjiVTSs8pc
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far too obvious and already made the rounds years ago. love Blue Velvet though
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for the music hate, ever think this is what the skaters wanted?
So what? We have to pretend using a blown out song is brilliant because Elijah himself requested it?
Agreed. Everyone’s just biting Blue Velvet with that one. I mean, there are SO many great Roy Orbison songs to choose from.
This...Was it Nestor then Vase, or Vase then Nestor?
David Clark before both. Would’ve thought Greg Hunt would know better.
Pretty underwhelming all round.
THANK YOU. I knew there was a third part that I had watched way more often than the Nestor part and Vase, and I was going insane trying to figure it out. Between that and Elijah dressing like a street tough hanging outside a malt shop in someone’s middle America MAGA fantasy, most of that second part did not register for me.
Liked Gilbert though.
Any more?? Like ColdPizza said, maybe it’s time just pick another Orbison song. I’ve always been partial to Crying, hits hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpIWBxJxDC0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpIWBxJxDC0)
And just cause it's dope with another great soundtrack choice... what a difference a year makes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflqy608AnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflqy608AnA)
Awesome, thanks for that. There you go, how much better would it have been to use Crying, reference to the past, but not played out in the present. Always liked Pat Chanita, still rolling (and in the new Puig’s).
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGg_bGtleKW/?igshid=4aalv60rz53
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crying is one of my favorite songs ever. i sing that shit in the morning when i make coffee for my lonely ass.
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Like I said, the most egregious example was after the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank. Awesome clip and then like 3/4 of the way down the bank, he throws his front arm in front of his face for no reason, except because it was something dylan. would have done naturally. His momentum was completely stopped and it just happened out of nowhere.
not to say you or anyone else is wrong or that i don’t see the same but,
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=U_Ewn3KHy5k
he does the bs 3 the same exact way, even same after arm cross over you’re talking about. back when he was still on chocolate, even a while before dylan passing. if he’s faking the funk then, he’s been faking it for a while. i do see a slight dylan influence in his style, i also don’t necessarily see it as a bad thing. if you watch this part and then go watch his other parts, you’ll see that his style hasn’t really flip flopped at all except maybe in clothing (which he’s done multiple times before and everyone on here seemed to love his last vans part so?) also, what if maybe greg hunt was also hyped to get the chance to work with a dylan-esque person for another video? he did mindfield and the gravis part.. maybe he wanted a chance at following up some of his masterpieces the same way dill does by picking outfits. you can see it in the way he films rideups/rollaways (example given: the roll around the corner zoom in to gap 5050) how can you blame it all on a young, impressionable kid like berle? i’m not the dudes biggest fan ever but, it’s just crazy how much hate he’s getting after putting out such a great video part. this isn’t sean pablo, take a breath and watch it over.
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crying is one of my favorite songs ever. i sing that shit in the morning when i make coffee for my lonely ass.
Damn. No doubt Roy is the breakup/breakdown king. So many great songs, so much heartache.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bfvZv78auFY
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Like I said, the most egregious example was after the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank. Awesome clip and then like 3/4 of the way down the bank, he throws his front arm in front of his face for no reason, except because it was something dylan. would have done naturally. His momentum was completely stopped and it just happened out of nowhere.
He landed on his nose and then tried to fix his feet and balance right before the bottom of the bank where it shoots out
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Now I wanna see someone skate to the Spanish version of Crying from Mulholland Drive
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skating was great with some obvious incredible tricks already mentioned. but...
The overblown-style-hamming-up-shit ruined it for me.
Also that hissy fit, table flip in the intro was one of the corniest thing to ever happen in skateboarding.
This could have been really good. oh well.
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Like I said, the most egregious example was after the b/s 360 over the rail into the bank. Awesome clip and then like 3/4 of the way down the bank, he throws his front arm in front of his face for no reason, except because it was something dylan. would have done naturally. His momentum was completely stopped and it just happened out of nowhere.
He landed on his nose and then tried to fix his feet and balance right before the bottom of the bank where it shoots out
That’s a super generous explanation for the arm thing considering he does it after he fixes his feet.
shouldn’t - That clip of him doing the 360 with a similar arm thing in his Propeller raw files looks way different though - the 360 and his body looks way less controlled so it makes sense there. I don’t see how anyone can watch the 360 in this part and say it wasn’t a conscious choice to do the arm thing. I’m not sure why you went on a tangent about Greg Hunt because it doesn’t have much to deal with why people think Elijah feels contrived here. I agree that his clothing choices aren’t major differences. It’s the style plus the clothing that I’m pointing out.
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second hand embarrassment watching berle
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Just be yourself, and jump on the bandwagon of hating on Elijah Berle's part
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So went back and watched 4 of his video parts, PS, Propeller, No Other Way, and Alright Ok.
The arm steeze thing doesn't start, albeit subtly until No Other Way, before hand his arms were a lot more slouched and low during his roll aways. Even in N.O.W they were still pretty low and hangy at times. Seems the change came kind of quick. The worst instance to me was the backside heel over the flat gap.
After rewatching almost a decade of parts I think he's pretty underrated, the talk of his clothes and style changes has def overshadowed a career full of insane tricks. Kind of feel bad for the guy knowing that he can do some p crazy tricks and all we'll harp about are his clothes. We been bullying this man for a decade
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We been bullying this man for a decade
fuck bro, now i feel bad for him.
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Berle beamed the camera after every trick he landed like he was gonna win SOTY and it just really did not work out for him
Nosegrind nollie flip shouldn't have been the ender if he was gonna land it the way he did
There's always next year kid
do people really think he was going for soty?
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SLAP thinks every skater dropping a part is aiming for SOTY or should release his best part ever
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The post caption says "SOTY" and this is what it says as a translation.
http://(https://i.ibb.co/FH8sZ77/Screenshot-20201125-125613-Instagram.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FH8sZ77)
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Berle's ender was fantastic, but this is still my favorite.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/10kBjwihFON3Gg/giphy.gif?cid=790b76116c80a666bbccff8bed84858de60568621bbcc4c2&rid=giphy.gif)
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yeah that was done flawless imo. it has to be said, he has about 5 total facemelters in there, no matter what you think about style or clothes.
berle has easy 10 years of pro skating ahead, he's gonna bring some crazy shit in the next years if he keeps up the pace and maybe then there will be no debating anymore who he's biting.
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Now I wanna see someone skate to the Spanish version of Crying from Mulholland Drive
That is one hell of a tune. Could see an all-slowmo part to this.
Haven't been able to finish this video but I just wanted to tell Elijah that I used to have a pair of tight Dickies back in the late 90s screamo hardcore days and my girlfriend told me I had "camel-toe cock". It wasn't a good look even by the standards of the time.
Do yourself a favor and buy your pants two sizes up from whatever you're wearing.
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Just rewatched it. The annoyance of the Dylan cosplay wore off. Gilbert’s heelflip nose manny into the kinked bank and kickflip back tail up the 3 were fucked.
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
was pretty bored with gilberts part, thought elijah's was pretty sick. don't mind the greaser vibe. probably won't rewatch because there will be a new better video out next week.
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Damn, tough crowd. I really enjoyed it.
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Worst Gilb part ever. In other hand his best part is Ride the Sky.
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Damn, tough crowd. I really enjoyed it.
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
was pretty bored with gilberts part, thought elijah's was pretty sick. don't mind the greaser vibe. probably won't rewatch because there will be a new better video out next week.
Dill was right when he talked about how much hate Dylan got for the fashion shit and rolling his pants up etc, then next thing you know everyone was copying his style
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Damn, tough crowd. I really enjoyed it.
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SLAP thinks every skater dropping a part is aiming for SOTY or should release his best part ever
You really think it's just a coincidence this (and every other heavy video we've seen in the past few weeks) dropped in November with a heavy Thrasher tie-in?
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
was pretty bored with gilberts part, thought elijah's was pretty sick. don't mind the greaser vibe. probably won't rewatch because there will be a new better video out next week.
you can not like dylans style while knowing that elijah is biting said style
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The post caption says "SOTY" and this is what it says as a translation.
http://(https://i.ibb.co/FH8sZ77/Screenshot-20201125-125613-Instagram.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FH8sZ77)
im missing your point? this is proof elijah was going for soty when filming this?
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Damn, tough crowd. I really enjoyed it.
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Elijahs opening a new store called The Bunt and his dog is mr frank dog
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Heard Elijah and Ponybody went and fucked up some socs to celebrate the part.
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I got cool guyed by a kid in the airport who was wearing a hockey shirt. I assume he’s just being smug because this part finally dropped. In all honesty, I enjoyed it. I didn’t think berles final form would be trying to be Dylan’s little brother, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
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Heard Elijah and Ponybody went and fucked up some socs to celebrate the part.
(https://i.imgur.com/mKZiQKN.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxkpffVvRpc&ab_channel=antonwnewcomb999
come on this wasn’t even clever. if you’re gonna work, work harder.
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Heard Elijah and Ponybody went and fucked up some socs to celebrate the part.
Another for the list! The Outsiders style!
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My two takeaways from this thread is 1) people aren’t giving that Crockett part nearly enough credit. It was beautiful. And 2) Going forward I need to watch that Nestor judkins oververt part almost as often as I watch his tiltmode part
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Gils kickflip back tail in dc is fucked. Having skated that spot I’ve never imagined trying anything up it. Arguably better than the trick at that spot later in the video
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The post caption says "SOTY" and this is what it says as a translation.
http://(https://i.ibb.co/FH8sZ77/Screenshot-20201125-125613-Instagram.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FH8sZ77)
im missing your point? this is proof elijah was going for soty when filming this?
I didn't get Ave's point either.
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The post caption says "SOTY" and this is what it says as a translation.
http://(https://i.ibb.co/FH8sZ77/Screenshot-20201125-125613-Instagram.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FH8sZ77)
im missing your point? this is proof elijah was going for soty when filming this?
I didn't get Ave's point either.
AVE is a supportive uncle.
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Greg sure knows how to cut em. That shit flew by. 18 minutes felt like 4.
This was amazing. Can't wait to rewatch.
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
was pretty bored with gilberts part, thought elijah's was pretty sick. don't mind the greaser vibe. probably won't rewatch because there will be a new better video out next week.
It could just be Elijah....don't remember people being a big fan of the trunk boyz....
While we're piling on him....how about that post make pushing? I gotta try that.....
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he was 100% hedi slimane/YSL influenced, who kind of "invented this look"
if you're talking about the ultra skinny 'heroin chic' look (kate moss being the most famous icon of that era): that style was around long before hedi slimane's 'black tie' collection for ysl
if you're talking about the white tank top with tailored pants outfit: i'm sure men have been wearing it forever after work on hot days, but the first appearance of such imagery in runway fashion is in helmut lang's seminal 90s runway shows (for whom kate moss modelled), before which the idea of putting a model on the runway in basics such as plain white t-shirts and wife beaters was unthinkable
lang certainly never made pants as skinny as dylan wore though! that is certainly a slimane influence
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxkpffVvRpc&ab_channel=antonwnewcomb999
come on this wasn’t even clever. if you’re gonna work, work harder.
You are right, I'll try to be better next time. I actually felt bad for Elijah an 1 hour after I did it
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
In all the years I've skated, I actually can't think of a single skateboarder whose style was more divisive than Dylan's at the time. Especially when he did his first shoe, and especially after Cherry when he took the arms to the next level. Everyone now pretends they always loved it. Which is fine, great people tend to be initially divisive. But still worth remembering.
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
was pretty bored with gilberts part, thought elijah's was pretty sick. don't mind the greaser vibe. probably won't rewatch because there will be a new better video out next week.
It could just be Elijah....don't remember people being a big fan of the trunk boyz....
While we're piling on him....how about that post make pushing? I gotta try that.....
yeah it obviously is, it's just always funny to me when people trying an white board an argument when they simply just don't like someone. doesn't have to make sense, you just don't like them.
seems to me like gilbert is just as bad for jumping looks and biting styles.
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it's pretty funny that if you chat on slap long enough you will see the majority of people bitching about dylan's style in threads and how much they don't like it, how fake he was and how contrived his landings were and all that. then fast forward 10 years and people holding dylan's style is such high regard that they are bitching about people faking dylan's style. is it possible that these two groups bitching are mutually exclusive?
was pretty bored with gilberts part, thought elijah's was pretty sick. don't mind the greaser vibe. probably won't rewatch because there will be a new better video out next week.
It could just be Elijah....don't remember people being a big fan of the trunk boyz....
While we're piling on him....how about that post make pushing? I gotta try that.....
yeah it obviously is, it's just always funny to me when people trying an white board an argument when they simply just don't like someone. doesn't have to make sense, you just don't like them.
seems to me like gilbert is just as bad for jumping looks and biting styles.
I'm not a fan of gilbert's pants but at least its not heavily based on one person in skating. Those ugly wide cuffed pants are influenced by sources outside of skating to the best of my knowledge.
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(https://i.ibb.co/GPFktJJ/artworks-000169402853-a4s4gr-t500x500.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Dylan wasn't the innovator of his dress style, just the one in skating that actually had the balls to not conform and dress like a NY pretty boy hipster. How is it that Austyn and others get a pass, but Elijah doesn't? I thought the part was good, way more well rounded than I expected, and rewatchable. Mason's hard charging skating is rad, but let's not act like he doesn't also have a set of go-to's and isn't similar to Westgate. It's hard to be a true original in skating. You can't give all the DC baggy pants dudes a pass then hate on EB for having a similar style to another skater.
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Dylan wasn't the innovator of his dress style, just the one in skating that actually had the balls to not conform and dress like a NY pretty boy hipster. How is it that Austyn and others get a pass, but Elijah doesn't? I thought the part was good, way more well rounded than I expected, and rewatchable. Mason's hard charging skating is rad, but let's not act like he doesn't also have a set of go-to's and isn't similar to Westgate. It's hard to be a true original in skating. You can't give all the DC baggy pants dudes a pass then hate on EB for having a similar style to another skater.
Spot on.
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He's obviously doing the greco thing. This isn't even close to his final form.
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Dylan wasn't the innovator of his dress style, just the one in skating that actually had the balls to not conform and dress like a NY pretty boy hipster. How is it that Austyn and others get a pass, but Elijah doesn't? I thought the part was good, way more well rounded than I expected, and rewatchable. Mason's hard charging skating is rad, but let's not act like he doesn't also have a set of go-to's and isn't similar to Westgate. It's hard to be a true original in skating. You can't give all the DC baggy pants dudes a pass then hate on EB for having a similar style to another skater.
I mean if I remember correctly SLAP shit on Austyn too back in the day. His shift from flannels/brown pants in Inhabitants and Origins to Team Handsome around Unlimited caused a lot of discussion and mockery. He's just stuck to that general look for so long that it's normal now. The only reason it seems SLAP still hates on Elijah is because he changes so often. If he stuck with a look we'd probably move on.... And still make fun of his Duffel phase.
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I actually want to like Elijah he seems like a good enough dude. But I can’t watch his footage because his skate style changes with every new phase, which is honestly a testament to his ability that he’s even able to do that.
To bring Austyn into this seems like a big miss. Austyn still does tricks with the same style he’s always had.
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I actually want to like Elijah he seems like a good enough dude. But I can’t watch his footage because his skate style changes with every new phase, which is honestly a testament to his ability that he’s even able to do that.
To bring Austyn into this seems like a big miss. Austyn still does tricks with the same style he’s always had.
austyn skates pretty good for a skinny white dude
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Dylan wasn't the innovator of his dress style, just the one in skating that actually had the balls to not conform and dress like a NY pretty boy hipster. How is it that Austyn and others get a pass, but Elijah doesn't? I thought the part was good, way more well rounded than I expected, and rewatchable. Mason's hard charging skating is rad, but let's not act like he doesn't also have a set of go-to's and isn't similar to Westgate. It's hard to be a true original in skating. You can't give all the DC baggy pants dudes a pass then hate on EB for having a similar style to another skater.
well put, the style was invented in the 50's and hundreds of thousands rocked it between now and then.
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Ya I think skating with your arms in a very particular way was invented in the 50's
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Heard Elijah and Ponybody went and fucked up some socs to celebrate the part.
(https://i.imgur.com/mKZiQKN.jpg)
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Dylan wasn't the innovator of his dress style, just the one in skating that actually had the balls to not conform and dress like a NY pretty boy hipster. How is it that Austyn and others get a pass, but Elijah doesn't? I thought the part was good, way more well rounded than I expected, and rewatchable. Mason's hard charging skating is rad, but let's not act like he doesn't also have a set of go-to's and isn't similar to Westgate. It's hard to be a true original in skating. You can't give all the DC baggy pants dudes a pass then hate on EB for having a similar style to another skater.
You're completely missing the mark. It's not funny that Elijah dresses like that, it's funny that he dresses like that when 6 months ago he dressed one way, and 2 years before that totally differently. It seems like Dylan, Austyn etc are generally into fashion, growing out of their little kid phase and starting to wear nicer clothes. Elijah is just cosplaying the flavor of the week, THAT'S WHY IT'S FUNNY.
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Ya I think skating with your arms in a very particular way was invented in the 50's
no.
Jerry Hsu invented it for Bag of Suck.
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Such a missed opportunity right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV80H9rScSQ
re-edit anyone?
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Seeing both these dudes rip was a pleasure! I like the idea of these aligned style mini-features vs. full-lengths. Would love to see Rowan, Ronnie, Pabich next.
Michel and Glick
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Seeing both these dudes rip was a pleasure! I like the idea of these aligned style mini-features vs. full-lengths. Would love to see Rowan, Ronnie, Pabich next.
Michel and Glick
A Nick Michel part for vans would be all time
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Michel and Glick
correct. if unsure, see exhibit a. https://www.instagram.com/p/CH0kLoShzZ4/
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(https://i.ibb.co/GPFktJJ/artworks-000169402853-a4s4gr-t500x500.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
church & sk8 to this
https://youtu.be/MiY5auB3OWg
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Where’s that Arne Stein footage. I can’t find it.
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Not so much Rick. I still see where you are coming from. What you probably mean is:
he was 100% hedi slimane/YSL influenced, who kind of "invented this look"
look up "hedi slimane male models" or something like this and you will see a lot of Dylans long before Dylan.
it is a good look tho, so I am not hating
Fair point, but I felt like Rick fed into that, particularly the kind of ragged, distressed, lived in feel Dylan adopted. But, you're right, Dylan was probably aware of Hedi and Dior Homme.
Dylan was more dh in 2006 when he had long hair and donned scarves. Tbh I think dylan was just into male models [ more than fashion houses] who at the time would have been in all the shows marni u name it for the most part arena homme ish
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CH-5nx9FHt7/?igshid=1kgr0s1askww7
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He's obviously doing the greco thing. This isn't even close to his final form.
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I forgot what Gilbert Crockett looks like. Can anyone remind me? Maybe if there was a shot of his face between every other trick in his part, that would help.
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Didn't Dill state in Tempelton's Epicly Laterd that Ed was the only one to ever do the impossible nosebluntslide? Now Elijah is doing it on tables
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you weirdos talking about high fashion are way off. Dylan and Berle look more like cholo mcfly than any bullshit that has come down the runway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqQ6whOG-Pg
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you are all wrong. berle is just heavily influenced by arne stein
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
Funny how much more comfortable almost everyone is in Old Skools and Authentics, over his pro shoe, of the people I know and skate with. I wonder how much that is true of the greater population too. I can see the benefits of a more technical shoe, but I get the impression people who skate Vans are not really looking for a super high tech long lasting shoe to start with. The ones who have skated the shoe didn't seem particularly interested in getting another pair.
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Which designer(s) at Vans are catching heat for creating a pro's signature shoe that said pro won't even touch? Or are they letting that one slide?
I vaguely remember hearing that Elijah was basically forced to have that as his pro model because Vans had that new sole technology they wanted in the market to see how people would respond to it. So they gave him an almost finished pro model with the promise that he would have more say in his second shoe if he put his name on this one.
Funny how much more comfortable almost everyone is in Old Skools and Authentics, over his pro shoe, of the people I know and skate with. I wonder how much that is true of the greater population too. I can see the benefits of a more technical shoe, but I get the impression people who skate Vans are not really looking for a super high tech long lasting shoe to start with. The ones who have skated the shoe didn't seem particularly interested in getting another pair.
Crazy to think that sort of thing still happens, re shoe design.
Arto never wore his eS shoe which is crazy bc that thing was awesome. He said in interviews it was because he thought it was weird to see his name on the shoe, but that didn’t stop him from wearing his unreleased 2nd model and any subsequent pro shoe. This week was also the first time I ever saw evidence that Guy Mariano wore his Axion pro model
Re: Elijah. Heard from my local that he basically let them do whatever bc he didn’t know better and was surprised to see how involved Rowan was in the creation of his pro model.
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Shit more like Arne Anderson.
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Interesting quote for sure!
I feel like this is almost my exact outfit and everyday go to for clothes, simple white tee, work pants, white socks, a black cap and old skools, which is just plain, simple and comfortable, just like this pic, it seems nothing changed, regular fit pants not cuffed or cut, tshirt normal fit, sleeves not rolled, but I guess that has been a standard for a lot of people for a long time. I am nothing new, but I am older now and I like it like that.
Some others might still be yet to find their comfortable fit and in doing so will copy others, just like I guess I did however many years ago, until I found what worked for me. There will always be comparisons to others, no matter what you wear or do, but some changes are more easily noticed than others too.
I wonder what the look might be in another five or ten years.
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Crockett part is good. Dude rips. Elijah Dylan cosplay and general kooky demeanor makes good skating unwatchable
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CIMq0c7nXVs/?igshid=lvv7j0li3yup
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CIMq0c7nXVs/?igshid=lvv7j0li3yup
This was a missed opportunity for weck to play dress ups as Elijah
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This week was also the first time I ever saw evidence that Guy Mariano wore his Axion pro model
I'm sorry dude, you seem cool, but you are absolutely tripping on this one. Guy wore the shit out of both of his Axion pro models, in every colorway. He seriously had both a lot of photos and clips in both shoes; it's spread out of over a lot of sources, but post-"Mouse/pre-hiatus Guy ('97 - '00) in my opinion was peak Guy. The reason I'm responding here is really just to let you know, "dude, as a skater you owe it to yourself to investigate this era of Guy Mariano."
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This week was also the first time I ever saw evidence that Guy Mariano wore his Axion pro model
I'm sorry dude, you seem cool, but you are absolutely tripping on this one. Guy wore the shit out of both of his Axion pro models, in every colorway. He seriously had both a lot of photos and clips in both shoes; it's spread out of over a lot of sources, but post-"Mouse/pre-hiatus Guy ('97 - '00) in my opinion was peak Guy. The reason I'm responding here is really just to let you know, "dude, as a skater you owe it to yourself to investigate this era of Guy Mariano."
I got into skating around 99. I’ve seen some clips here and there of him in the Aries (I think what his 2nd shoe was) but I don’t really know what or where his post-Mouse footage went when he was on Axion and just before he fell off. Happy to be enlightened. (Also rewatched baker 2G recently and mind was blown that Knox was wearing almost exclusively mariano 1s in that)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CIMq0c7nXVs/?igshid=lvv7j0li3yup
he's right in this case. that was a blatant scrape!
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I had a friend watch the video who knows nothing about skateboarding and this is what his takeaways were:
1. Gilbert Crockett is really good...and skates smooth
2. Elijah Berle looks like he's trying to hard when it comes to fashion...he mentioned that he looked like he was from the 1950's.... and that he could have been a gas station worker or from the Outsiders
3. Roy Orbison has a lovely voice
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CIMq0c7nXVs/?igshid=lvv7j0li3yup
gratuitous violation
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I lost track of skating for a while and when I got back in all the parts I watched anybody could do anything. They do their tricks like the Swedish judge will only give them an 8.8 if they appear off balance during a trick or on the landing.
Gilbert has the vibe like he can do anything but his trick/spot selection and style that gives him “mystique”. All skaters wear their little costume but knowing his personal investment makes it legit. Sick part.
Elijahs skating is sick but the “theme” approach just kind of misses. Contrasted to someone besides Crockett it would probably have done better cuz I wanna like it but it’s the full experience.
Greg Hunt behind the camera gives me feels. If this the largest degree this style project gets away from Strobeck I’ll be ok with it I guess
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This week was also the first time I ever saw evidence that Guy Mariano wore his Axion pro model
I'm sorry dude, you seem cool, but you are absolutely tripping on this one. Guy wore the shit out of both of his Axion pro models, in every colorway. He seriously had both a lot of photos and clips in both shoes; it's spread out of over a lot of sources, but post-"Mouse/pre-hiatus Guy ('97 - '00) in my opinion was peak Guy. The reason I'm responding here is really just to let you know, "dude, as a skater you owe it to yourself to investigate this era of Guy Mariano."
I got into skating around 99. I’ve seen some clips here and there of him in the Aries (I think what his 2nd shoe was) but I don’t really know what or where his post-Mouse footage went when he was on Axion and just before he fell off. Happy to be enlightened. (Also rewatched baker 2G recently and mind was blown that Knox was wearing almost exclusively mariano 1s in that)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyMlp3AoYWA
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
Just saw that too. I wonder if it's apart of something bigger or just a solo part.
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
Just saw that too. I wonder if it's apart of something bigger or just a solo part.
still time for fit of the year. good luck elijah.
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
Just saw that too. I wonder if it's apart of something bigger or just a solo part.
Think it's related to the FA x Vans collaboration that's dropping.
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did ya'll see CK watching Elijah's part through facetime while having visiting time in the pen?
made me really sad
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Interesting look into Alright,Ok with Elijah. interview By Jeff Thornburn for King skateboard Mag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4VlFmOfLaE
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I don’t see the New part for Dec 4th anywhere
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where the shit is my part elijah i'm sorry we cyberbullied you
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
hey @figureitout can you post where its premiering online and when pls?
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
hey @figureitout can you post where its premiering online and when pls?
I think it's coming out on Thrasher next week.
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Shit another Berle part for FA Dec 4th
hey @figureitout can you post where its premiering online and when pls?
I think it's coming out on Thrasher next week.
thank you @HORSES
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Got put back because had one trick to film, but he lost the keys to his bikelock, so he had to wait until he found them so he could unlock the spot.
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Got put back because had one trick to film, but he lost the keys to his bikelock, so he had to wait until he found them so he could unlock the spot.
that's pretty lazy. Dylan would still have made the impossible possible
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Ye but he had those on lock
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Now that I’ve processed the video a handful of times, I really enjoy Elijah part.
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Now that I’ve processed the video a handful of times, I really enjoy Elijah part.
I watched it again and his fake steez is almost unbearable
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Ye but he had those on lock
Elijahs been stacking footage since lockdown started
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Ye but he had those on lock
Elijahs been stacking footage since lockdown started
he needs to put it out now, the clock for the soty race is ticking
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gilberts part is more re-watchable in my opinion.
i think i'd like this a lot more it didn't have such a blatant campaign around it, that puts a sour taste in my mouth.
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gilberts part is more re-watchable in my opinion.
i think i'd like this a lot more it didn't have such a blatant campaign around it, that puts a sour taste in my mouth.
Are they that ignorant of Mason? There’s no chance Elijah won this unless vans is paying thrasher a ton of money.
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vans is paying thrasher a ton of money.
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Vans has been making big moves in the past few years to establish themselves as the skate shoe company. If I had to guess, I'd say that winning (or buying) SOTY would factor itself into that plan very easily.
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Now that I’ve processed the video a handful of times, I really enjoy Elijah part.
I liked it my first time viewing, but i've been watching both parts (who video) over and over since it premiered. Elijah obviously spoke out of turn saying FA part Dec 4th but i'm getting really psyched to see him and AVE whenever it does end up dropping.
I'm dying to get my hands on D-Gar's score, he confirmed to me on youtube it will be released.
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I'm dying to get my hands on D-Gar's score, he confirmed to me on youtube it will be released.
Can't wait to play the record on my Crosley!
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another AVE part :o
sorry Mason but AVE might steal this one from ya
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another AVE part :o
sorry Mason but AVE might steal this one from ya
Where are you seeing this?
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Vans has been making big moves in the past few years to establish themselves as the skate shoe company. If I had to guess, I'd say that winning (or buying) SOTY would factor itself into that plan very easily.
they bought kyle walkers win. that was the most forced shit i’ve ever seen.
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https://www.paradeworld.com/news/greg-hunt-talks-filming-vans-stereo-mindfield-and-more/
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https://www.paradeworld.com/news/greg-hunt-talks-filming-vans-stereo-mindfield-and-more/
its like a puffier version of the mostly skateboarding podcast with him
no foot in mouth statements about skatevideosite.com though
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https://www.paradeworld.com/news/greg-hunt-talks-filming-vans-stereo-mindfield-and-more/
its like a puffier version of the mostly skateboarding podcast with him
no foot in mouth statements about skatevideosite.com though
What did he say about skatevideosite?
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another AVE part :o
sorry Mason but AVE might steal this one from ya
Where are you seeing this?
in that King Mag video Elijah said it was a Vans/FA video, so im assuming it'll be those two with maybe a few clips from Ben, Aidan. Could have misunderstood him
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how can you have any pudding if you dont eat your meat?
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mostly-skateboarding/id690015876?i=1000501507637
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Jesus Christ man. They are really throwing all of their weight behind this video...
http://youtu.be/TnU-_ChzI6Y
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Jesus Christ man. They are really throwing all of their weight behind this video...
http://youtu.be/TnU-_ChzI6Y
See. I said 200 people. He said 300.
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This was the most overhyped thing of 2020. Gilbert is still super enjoyable to watch, but he’s not in his prime anymore. Elijah kills it but the hype was too much.
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This was the most overhyped thing of 2020. Gilbert is still super enjoyable to watch, but he’s not in his prime anymore. Elijah kills it but the hype was too much.
I think some of it has to do with predictability in Gilbert and how many parts he has had. If Guy Mariano did one kick flip front crooks in a part I’d go back to it many many times but with Gilbert it’s expected he’ll have one or a kick flip nose grind. I’d love to see a switch big heel from him or something random. His old dominion part is one of the best video parts of all time. His gospel part was also creative.
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Jesus Christ man. They are really throwing all of their weight behind this video...
http://youtu.be/TnU-_ChzI6Y
video itself was like, 15 minutes. there have now been 20+ minutes of behind the scenes for it!
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lol even for slap you guys are trying way too hard to hate this video, sure elijahs cosplay is pretty lame. But you guys are making it seems like this is the worst video ever made.
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Nah the video was a skipper
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CImQmXCpCzZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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oh great now he thinks he's hosoi
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oh great now he thinks he's hosoi
Let’s see if he goes all the way and starts trafficking meth.
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oh great now he thinks he's hosoi
i am laughing so hard because of how obvious it is. its really second hand embarrassing on a level I never really experienced in context of skateboard media.
skills are undeniable tho
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This was the most overhyped thing of 2020. Gilbert is still super enjoyable to watch, but he’s not in his prime anymore. Elijah kills it but the hype was too much.
His prime was in Ride the Sky.
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This was the most overhyped thing of 2020. Gilbert is still super enjoyable to watch, but he’s not in his prime anymore. Elijah kills it but the hype was too much.
His prime was in Ride the Sky.
Thanks for reminding me. I had to rewatch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHb9HKkEmQw&pbjreload=101
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Kind of odd for a raw files to come out so soon after a part. Not even a rough cut. This smells of something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClYfZXw5dto
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Maybe they realized the video didn’t go over as well as they’d hoped so they’re dumping what was intended to be an extended campaign a lot faster to try to move past the lukewarm reception?
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Maybe they realized the video didn’t go over as well as they’d hoped so they’re dumping what was intended to be an extended campaign a lot faster to try to move past the lukewarm reception?
The video went fine with the general public, lets not confuse Slap's reception with the general consensuses.
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Maybe they realized the video didn’t go over as well as they’d hoped so they’re dumping what was intended to be an extended campaign a lot faster to try to move past the lukewarm reception?
The video went fine with the general public, lets not confuse Slap's reception with the general consensuses.
To say the video went over "fine" with the general public, given all the effort Vans and Greg Hunt have put into it, is still pretty underwhelming.
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Something that really annoys me about these "raw" files is that it's just the part with maybe one or two extra slams. I miss the Emericas B sides where it actually showed the process, like with Westgate and Leo having like 20 minutes of B Sides
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
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Saw a thick photobook for this at the skate shop the other day but no DVD included.
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
Props to Greg. Elijah is just a dude who is great at skateboarding and maturing in public. Slap talked massive shit on Dylan during his heyday. Everyone could chill a little.
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
I hear you Greg, and honestly people who post fucked-up shit like that aren't really welcome around Slap anyway. Weirdos and trolls like that are always in line to get banned. Posts like that don't reflect the majority of Slap users. I understand how that would rub you the wrong way and how you think Slap could be toxic because of that. I'm just trying to say that one part doesn't equal a whole.
Yes we're critical and everyone has their opinions and their own way of expressing their opinions, but I'm sure that we as a whole love your oeuvre and what you've done for skateboarding. We love the pros you've worked with and who you work with currently. We're all waiting to see your next project.
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I for one liked the video, but I'm sure even the biggest critics can agree that the guy who made that leukemia joke fucking sucks.
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I hated the video and I thought the leukemia joke was trash. Please don't lump me in with that dude.
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
I hear you Greg, and honestly people who post fucked-up shit like that aren't really welcome around Slap anyway. Weirdos and trolls like that are always in line to get banned. Posts like that don't reflect the majority of Slap users. I understand how that would rub you the wrong way and how you think Slap could be toxic because of that. I'm just trying to say that one part doesn't equal a whole.
Yes we're critical and everyone has their opinions and their own way of expressing their opinions, but I'm sure that we as a whole love your oeuvre and what you've done for skateboarding. We love the pros you've worked with and who you work with currently. We're all waiting to see your next project.
I agree with you. We’re all always looking forward to the next Greg Hunt project. With that said, do you at all feel like we didn’t even take the time to enjoy the one he just gave us?
I think “Alright, OK” and Elijah are both catalysts to a larger conversation on the state of modern skateboard media. This argument has been made before, but I am bringing it back up because it’s never been so apparent to me that skateboarders are acting entitled to free content in an alarming way. Imagine working on something for the better part of 2 years, giving it to fans for free, and having them essentially be angered with the final product.
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
I think most of the negativity is pointed towards Elijah just blindly trend chasing/biting, which never really goes over well in skating. And you should know (since you bravely posted that you care what skaters think) that the vast majority of us are always looking forward to your work. It's just the subject of the last half of the video that bummed people out a little.
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Yes, we have become spoiled by the abundance of quality content. Also, a Slap thread is usually a contest in either posting the most vile hate or the gayest dick-ride, usually decided by the tone of the first few comments.
Read comments on FB, IG, Thrasher and Youtube to get the real response. I honestly wish we could've stayed in the video days era, where years worth of work could also be appreciated for many years.
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Someone made a leukemia joke? Are they permabanned because they should be.
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shouts out to Greg Hunt for consistently being THEE premiere skateboard videographer.
this shits clearly not for u if you can't watch it without having a meltdown over Eli's tucked-in shirt...
fuck u all
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Greg Hunt you are an absolute legend, and everyone on this board should be very thankful for the videos you’ve made.
My only critique about the video is the pacing of elijahs part. Seemed a little dragged out, but now knowing that he picked the songs it makes sense.
Also a bummer when the mag spoils the last tricks but obviously you have no control over that.
Much love Greg
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Someone made a leukemia joke? Are they permabanned because they should be.
Says the poster Lame Ni**a
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I find it utterly weird people shit on Elijah here to the degree that they do. He might not have done as much as mason, but I think this and the FA part were something really special.
The FA part was all hammers even if edited slowly. He obviously was very influenced by Dylan. I mean he literally did the trash can kickflip that Dylan did in that FA post Mortem edit they did this year in his new FA part.
What’s really really really funny about the whole situation is everyone here fucking loves Dylan rieder, who is arguably the biggest chameleon other than Greco. I think of skaters at least long lasting ones as a sort of David Bowie kind of career. Like to last in this industry takes incredible amounts of adaptation. Dylan had like 4-5 phases very very similar to Elijah. Like Elijah’s FA part and his dressing in that was looked way more like Leo Romero even if it had Dylan influenced tricks. Like Elijah reminds me of Dylan if when you saw the last stage of Dylan it was mixed with his rail phase. Rodney did it, Hosoi did it, Dylan did it, all of the greats have changed their styles and went through phases, and if they didn’t we wouldn’t love them as much. What I thought was always super super cool about Dylan was the fact he could rip tranny or rails as hard as anyone, but chose to skate the way he did, very similar to Elijah.
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am i missing something? no ones shitting on the video itself, they're shitting on
- the marketing campaign around it
- the cosplay by elijah
the video is well edited, well shot, and has a good music selection. basically everything greg had to do with, was very lovely.
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
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Something that really annoys me about these "raw" files is that it's just the part with maybe one or two extra slams. I miss the Emericas B sides where it actually showed the process, like with Westgate and Leo having like 20 minutes of B Sides
The Westgate B-Sides from MADE Chapter 1 is far and away my single most watched skate-related thing on Youtube.
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because people have opinions? what does Greg Hunt have to do with it?
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
I agree to the fullest extent. Again, I love that Elijah is into this look. I still love this look and tuck my shirt in and starting wearing tanks over the summer. I’ve been hooked on the look since Dylan really went into it. My other view on this is why can’t everyone just say it’s not for them and admire the talent here.
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Someone made a leukemia joke? Are they permabanned because they should be.
Says the poster Lame Ni**a
Well I am black so...
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because i'm allowed to have opinions. same reason i think neckface is a moron, despite the industry loving him. same reason i think phelps was obnoxious, despite being the face of thrasher
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because people have opinions? what does Greg Hunt have to do with it?
Greg is defending his videography work, and rightfully so. Edit: he's also rightfully calling out the worst kind of joke.
At least people like Sean Pablo had a direct connection to Dylan, that influence has always made sense to me.
With Elijah, it almost seems like he was told to go for this new image. I know that's a reach, but that's honestly how fabricated this look appears.
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Kind of odd for a raw files to come out so soon after a part. Not even a rough cut. This smells of something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClYfZXw5dto
Smells like what...a SOTY push? It's called marketing. Last time I checked Vans was in the business of selling shoes.
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
I remember seeing the leukemia comment. It was basically saying the next thing Elijah will copy Dylan will be his cancer. I also saw other posts disregarding the user and the comment. I think Slap as a general figure doesn’t really react to those comments other than a few people telling the guy to get fucked. Most of the hate is toward Elijah and it definitely snowballed. The points may be valid but it definitely got heavier and heavier. I don’t think I’m alone when I say it is because your edits are heavy but Elijah just isn’t as heavy a skateboarder as Dylan or Ave or the other skaters you’ve worked with. His no other way part was rad but w past didn’t really improve on it besides his last few tricks.
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@greg hunt
Please keep in mind, while some/many comments may trend negative, comments like the one you referenced are beyond the pale and we self-regulate that shit and that user was banned. We do have standards and hope not to be tarred with the same brush as some troll
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ya guys relax, I think he knows how the internet works
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Something that really annoys me about these "raw" files is that it's just the part with maybe one or two extra slams. I miss the Emericas B sides where it actually showed the process, like with Westgate and Leo having like 20 minutes of B Sides
Westgates B Sides are some of my favorite skating all time. He does so many tricks multiple times even even though he landed some of them good..
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ya guys relax, I think he knows how the internet works
He could’ve quoted any of the toxic comments that criticized Berle’s fits or his record player but he chose the one that everyone agreed went too far.
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Greg you might want to see how slap reacted to Dylan’s classic videos when they first dropped or any other video for that matter before you decide if you really give a shit about the negativity in this place. Every single thread is guaranteed to have people bitching about music and editing.
I liked the video and watched it twice. That said I heard people bitching about Elijah’s part at the park too so might not be for everyone because of the greaser thing landing to close to Dylan for a lot of people.
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Of course I chose that one.
There’s 18 pages of comments on here. Fits, record player, bike lock... whatever. It’s funny but then it builds and starts getting collectively more negative. That’s where comments like the one I mentioned come from.
Slap has been around a long time now. I know the drill. I remember the early Dylan comments. It’s just how I feel.
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Of course I chose that one.
There’s 18 pages of comments on here. Fits, record player, bike lock... whatever. It’s funny but then it builds and starts getting collectively more negative. That’s where comments like the one I mentioned come from.
Slap has been around a long time now. I know the drill. I remember the early Dylan comments. It’s just how I feel.
I find my only gripe to be that the video seemed to be a push to win soty by Vans the corporation. I liked how he looked in his last part but now he sorta looks like Dill in Mindfield. Nothing wrong with it just not everyone's cup of tea and like Dill it's controversial.
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I actually like it when people force style changes. Live your life, experiment. We'd be a boring bunch if we stayed exactly the same forever.
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greg hunt the leukemia comment was terrible and maybe indicative of SLAP at its lowest point but a lot of us really liked the video and respect your work. Like what some other posters mentioned, SLAP tends to go after skaters and haze them and then turn around and adore them. Folks will likely ease off of Elijah and become fans but a lot of the hate is probably reactively rooted in being protective over the memory of Dylan Rieder (maybe that has something to do with regrets about any hazing he got here years ago). Maybe I'm way off on that one though. Anyways, thank you for Alright, OK and thanks for giving us this video too <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cts_HY8bZwU&t=236s
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love the new vans video and have been watching it every few days along with all the behind the scenes stuff/ interviews
hearing you say don't look back and i am trying to break your heart inspired you really sealed the deal for me
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Elijah's RAW files are a must watch. Incredible skating.
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bruh im out here like pam boy so trust me slap dont have a clue bout no drip i can prove it aint no one came at vince touz once for donning a casio watch
https://youtu.be/rt0gtkfnwVw
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I don't think Elijah was so bad, but the editing really fucked a bit of his flow, specially since his parts were mostly to punk or surf music. Gilbert too, but his stuff is a bit more chilled out and it fits better in the end.
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Elijah's RAW files are a must watch. Incredible skating.
Incredible skating, and incredible fake steeze. The arm, holy shit.
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Let me clear a few things up here.
This raw files edit going up was sorted out a long time ago, before the video dropped. Alright, OK wasn't released on Thrasher so it's a way to give them something extra.
The behind the scenes thing came from me. It was originally supposed to be a short film on each Gilbert and Elijah that dropped the day the video was released. But that was too much work and kind of a bad idea so it turned into what it is now.
The video was originally supposed to drop May 5. Since everything shut down in March it was put on hold, then scheduled for October and pushed to November. We just needed to get it done this year since it was already overdue.
What I'm saying here is that there is a lot less of a big plan involved than you may think.
As for the video itself, call it a mall filter (?) or whatever you want but it really was just me making the video by myself at home. I do my best. There's no committee.
On a personal note, I would be lying if I said I don't care what people think. I make these videos for skaters, and I'm a skater, so of course I care. But a lot of the sentiment on here has been super negative, borderline toxic. I read one post that said something like, "next think you know he'll want leukemia" and it actually made me feel sick. I do think we can do better than this.
I hear you Greg, and honestly people who post fucked-up shit like that aren't really welcome around Slap anyway. Weirdos and trolls like that are always in line to get banned. Posts like that don't reflect the majority of Slap users. I understand how that would rub you the wrong way and how you think Slap could be toxic because of that. I'm just trying to say that one part doesn't equal a whole.
Yes we're critical and everyone has their opinions and their own way of expressing their opinions, but I'm sure that we as a whole love your oeuvre and what you've done for skateboarding. We love the pros you've worked with and who you work with currently. We're all waiting to see your next project.
I agree with you. We’re all always looking forward to the next Greg Hunt project. With that said, do you at all feel like we didn’t even take the time to enjoy the one he just gave us?
I think “Alright, OK” and Elijah are both catalysts to a larger conversation on the state of modern skateboard media. This argument has been made before, but I am bringing it back up because it’s never been so apparent to me that skateboarders are acting entitled to free content in an alarming way. Imagine working on something for the better part of 2 years, giving it to fans for free, and having them essentially be angered with the final product.
Remember the idiot on here who started a petition to get Andrew Reynolds to publicly apologise for Baker 4
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because this place (for the most part) is an echo chamber for some extremely entitled people who really have no reason to be otherwise
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bruh im out here like pam boy so trust me slap dont have a clue bout no drip i can prove it aint no one came at vince touz once for donning a casio watch
https://youtu.be/rt0gtkfnwVw
Lmao the casio wasn't drip UNTIL Touz donned it
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I really enjoy the behind the scenes video with Gilbert. I hope there’s more behind the scenes stuff coming. I haven’t finished elijahs raw part. Had to stop to help with kiddo. But from what I saw it didn’t seem like a raw edit cause so many makes and no struggle but whatever. Alright ok was good. Elijah just gets shit because he does look like he cosplays his favorite pros. Everyone does that. But pros usually don’t blatantly copy off of pros especially late pros or as frequent as he has.
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
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I wish the raw files had more tries/bails. I was specifically looking forward to seeing how Elijah skated that insane rock bank in NYC. (The one he ollied over a rail into) I've seen it in person and it really is an insane thing to skate.
Greg if you're still reading hook a dude up!
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
I think SLAP is beating a dead horse with Elijah for sure, but I guess it's an extra sensitive case. Dylan died in a tragic and unexpected way, and he was without a doubt one of the most influential skaters of the time. I think some people just don't want to see anyone biting on Dylan's style since he has passed, which is understandable.
What's funny is that my gripe with Elijah has never been his clothes.
I don't like how stiff he looks and how often he lands with weird footing lol.
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
Valid except a bunch of people have addressed why they think Elijah’s efforts feel more concerted. While someone like Gilbert has had their style and for change since they came out, it’s felt like a more natural progression. Even Gilbert’s shift from his Mystery days to AWS makes sense.
Elijah has gone through many distinct phase and it’s all been based on his board sponsor and who he’s hanging out with (or portrayed as hanging out with) so it feel more concerted and artificial. maybe it’s not but that’s how it comes across. He was a Duffel clone on Foundation, then a Leo Romero-esque style when he got on Chocolate, and then he left for FA and is wearing very dylan. inspired clothes. It just feels very concerted and drastic. And again, my major complaint isn’t necessarily the clothes, it’s the concerted style choices. His arms and his hunched shoulders are very clearly based off of dylan. and seemed to come out of nowhere right when he started skating for FA, which is weird.
And I totally get the need to make some extra bonus videos to help advertise the project, etc. but it just felt odd. And I feel for Elijah getting in a skating funk but it seemed like a struggle that was really overblown. We all know pros go through cycles of filming, skating, trying to be productive but it not working out, etc. So it felt like making a big deal out of something that the industry has told us is common. Maybe there was a lot more going on and he was battling depression or other things but that didn’t come through if that’s the case.
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Sure, Slap ripped on Dylan back in the day, but the difference is he was doing his own thing and Elijah is copying someone else. I don’t understand how this distinction is being ignored by people.
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
Valid except a bunch of people have addressed why they think Elijah’s efforts feel more concerted. While someone like Gilbert has had their style and for change since they came out, it’s felt like a more natural progression. Even Gilbert’s shift from his Mystery days to AWS makes sense.
Elijah has gone through many distinct phase and it’s all been based on his board sponsor and who he’s hanging out with (or portrayed as hanging out with) so it feel more concerted and artificial. maybe it’s not but that’s how it comes across. He was a Duffel clone on Foundation, then a Leo Romero-esque style when he got on Chocolate, and then he left for FA and is wearing very dylan. inspired clothes. It just feels very concerted and drastic. And again, my major complaint isn’t necessarily the clothes, it’s the concerted style choices. His arms and his hunched shoulders are very clearly based off of dylan. and seemed to come out of nowhere right when he started skating for FA, which is weird.
And I totally get the need to make some extra bonus videos to help advertise the project, etc. but it just felt odd. And I feel for Elijah getting in a skating funk but it seemed like a struggle that was really overblown. We all know pros go through cycles of filming, skating, trying to be productive but it not working out, etc. So it felt like making a big deal out of something that the industry has told us is common. Maybe there was a lot more going on and he was battling depression or other things but that didn’t come through if that’s the case.
Actually, watching his new part, I feel like if you put it together with his vans part there's a transition of him initially dressing like Ave to Dylan.
I think people are bitching about it because it feels a bit contrived? Like dude rips but it's kind of like watching a really talented musician play a cover of a song, if that makes sense. I see what you're saying in that he has very distinct phases that coincide with his sponsors. Not a lot of replay value in that part to me but, hey, to each his own. Everyone's into different shit.
It's still a surprising amount of hate coming through which kind of feels stemmed from people thinking FA was trying to rig SOTY for him or something.
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
Valid except a bunch of people have addressed why they think Elijah’s efforts feel more concerted. While someone like Gilbert has had their style and for change since they came out, it’s felt like a more natural progression. Even Gilbert’s shift from his Mystery days to AWS makes sense.
Elijah has gone through many distinct phase and it’s all been based on his board sponsor and who he’s hanging out with (or portrayed as hanging out with) so it feel more concerted and artificial. maybe it’s not but that’s how it comes across. He was a Duffel clone on Foundation, then a Leo Romero-esque style when he got on Chocolate, and then he left for FA and is wearing very dylan. inspired clothes. It just feels very concerted and drastic. And again, my major complaint isn’t necessarily the clothes, it’s the concerted style choices. His arms and his hunched shoulders are very clearly based off of dylan. and seemed to come out of nowhere right when he started skating for FA, which is weird.
And I totally get the need to make some extra bonus videos to help advertise the project, etc. but it just felt odd. And I feel for Elijah getting in a skating funk but it seemed like a struggle that was really overblown. We all know pros go through cycles of filming, skating, trying to be productive but it not working out, etc. So it felt like making a big deal out of something that the industry has told us is common. Maybe there was a lot more going on and he was battling depression or other things but that didn’t come through if that’s the case.
I don't disagree; Elijah's kit/style changes have for sure happened in obvious ways based on who he's around. I guess my point was a bit more broad just because I see people on here complaining about clothes/style 24/7. It's obviously a very important part of skating, but still, we're watching a bunch of kids skateboard. Young people want to fit in and be cool. It's superficial and can be corny, but it'll always happen.
I'm not trying to change any opinions on Elijah. It's just that in a broader sense I don't think his copy cat behaviors are that unusual or cringy, especially being a pro skater.
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
Valid except a bunch of people have addressed why they think Elijah’s efforts feel more concerted. While someone like Gilbert has had their style and for change since they came out, it’s felt like a more natural progression. Even Gilbert’s shift from his Mystery days to AWS makes sense.
Elijah has gone through many distinct phase and it’s all been based on his board sponsor and who he’s hanging out with (or portrayed as hanging out with) so it feel more concerted and artificial. maybe it’s not but that’s how it comes across. He was a Duffel clone on Foundation, then a Leo Romero-esque style when he got on Chocolate, and then he left for FA and is wearing very dylan. inspired clothes. It just feels very concerted and drastic. And again, my major complaint isn’t necessarily the clothes, it’s the concerted style choices. His arms and his hunched shoulders are very clearly based off of dylan. and seemed to come out of nowhere right when he started skating for FA, which is weird.
And I totally get the need to make some extra bonus videos to help advertise the project, etc. but it just felt odd. And I feel for Elijah getting in a skating funk but it seemed like a struggle that was really overblown. We all know pros go through cycles of filming, skating, trying to be productive but it not working out, etc. So it felt like making a big deal out of something that the industry has told us is common. Maybe there was a lot more going on and he was battling depression or other things but that didn’t come through if that’s the case.
Even spots and the dog. Dude is a bizarro clone.
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well, it's sorta off topic at this point, but it was neat to see the nosegrind nollie flip without the color correcting while the California skies were all crazy. I totally get why they edited for the actual video, but it was cool to see.
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well, it's sorta off topic at this point, but it was neat to see the nosegrind nollie flip without the color correcting while the California skies were all crazy. I totally get why they edited for the actual video, but it was cool to see.
The way the footage looks without the cc reminds me of when a TV show or movie wants to show the setting is Latin American.
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imagine nosegrind nollie flipping that rail
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This is just a thought I had on the style-biting thing that people worry about so much:
We need to remember that skating is an activity dominated by young people, and young people in general change their style all the time. I don't think it's normal for teenagers or even people in their 20s to become 100% their own unique individual or to feel totally comfortable with their appearance. I mean I'm 27 and I don't dress exactly the same as I did a few years ago.
Elijah is a top-tier pro in an image-focused industry and he's young. It's not that crazy that he's changed his kit a lot. I think he understands the importance of having an ~image~, and I can't really blame him for that.
Very valid point. These guys are young and still trying find themselves. I mean how you dress doesn’t make you skate worse. Elijah is really good. It’s just a funny thing to nitpick because he does change so much and most pros are setting trends or have an identity and he seems to still be looking for his. Or maybe he has found it and slap is beating a dead horse
Valid except a bunch of people have addressed why they think Elijah’s efforts feel more concerted. While someone like Gilbert has had their style and for change since they came out, it’s felt like a more natural progression. Even Gilbert’s shift from his Mystery days to AWS makes sense.
Elijah has gone through many distinct phase and it’s all been based on his board sponsor and who he’s hanging out with (or portrayed as hanging out with) so it feel more concerted and artificial. maybe it’s not but that’s how it comes across. He was a Duffel clone on Foundation, then a Leo Romero-esque style when he got on Chocolate, and then he left for FA and is wearing very dylan. inspired clothes. It just feels very concerted and drastic. And again, my major complaint isn’t necessarily the clothes, it’s the concerted style choices. His arms and his hunched shoulders are very clearly based off of dylan. and seemed to come out of nowhere right when he started skating for FA, which is weird.
And I totally get the need to make some extra bonus videos to help advertise the project, etc. but it just felt odd. And I feel for Elijah getting in a skating funk but it seemed like a struggle that was really overblown. We all know pros go through cycles of filming, skating, trying to be productive but it not working out, etc. So it felt like making a big deal out of something that the industry has told us is common. Maybe there was a lot more going on and he was battling depression or other things but that didn’t come through if that’s the case.
Actually, watching his new part, I feel like if you put it together with his vans part there's a transition of him initially dressing like Ave to Dylan.
I think people are bitching about it because it feels a bit contrived? Like dude rips but it's kind of like watching a really talented musician play a cover of a song, if that makes sense. I see what you're saying in that he has very distinct phases that coincide with his sponsors. Not a lot of replay value in that part to me but, hey, to each his own. Everyone's into different shit.
It's still a surprising amount of hate coming through which kind of feels stemmed from people thinking FA was trying to rig SOTY for him or something.
Elijah is the weird al yankovic of skateboarding.
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because people have opinions? what does Greg Hunt have to do with it?
Greg is defending his videography work, and rightfully so. Edit: he's also rightfully calling out the worst kind of joke.
At least people like Sean Pablo had a direct connection to Dylan, that influence has always made sense to me.
With Elijah, it almost seems like he was told to go for this new image. I know that's a reach, but that's honestly how fabricated this look appears.
i mean, there's only a 3 year age difference between sean and elijah, and a big enough age difference between dylan and those two were you're looking up to an older dude just seems completely normal. elijah also skated with dylan enough that he wanted him on aws & gravis.
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Saw a thick photobook for this at the skate shop the other day but no DVD included.
shoulda got it! they're supposed to be free. a cool thing to own even without a dvd.
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we on slap right now an i wanna give a major shoutout to my homie greg hunt keep your motha fuckin head up and don’t let these pals discourage you ya feel me dawg
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https://www.vhsmag.com/voice-of-freedom/greg-hunt-jp/
Nice interview ova here.
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because people have opinions? what does Greg Hunt have to do with it?
Greg is defending his videography work, and rightfully so. Edit: he's also rightfully calling out the worst kind of joke.
At least people like Sean Pablo had a direct connection to Dylan, that influence has always made sense to me.
With Elijah, it almost seems like he was told to go for this new image. I know that's a reach, but that's honestly how fabricated this look appears.
i mean, there's only a 3 year age difference between sean and elijah, and a big enough age difference between dylan and those two were you're looking up to an older dude just seems completely normal. elijah also skated with dylan enough that he wanted him on aws & gravis.
I guess I didn't realize they had that kind of connection, mostly because Elijah was wearing trucker hats and 874's around the time cherry came out. He did have a mean impossible in his PS part if I remember correctly, but I don't think that one was a trick Dylan had claimed...
I had no idea Elijah was so young until very recently, so I also get that he's finding his style. But so clearly making this move seems in poor taste. Dylan did it first, was hated for it, kept doing it anyway, then tragically passed. Leave it alone or make it your own, but don't just copy it after you get on the team he once rode for.
It's like they want to market him as the second coming of Dylan. He's not gonna fill those shoes, and he'll never do anything that was as hated as this was:
https://youtu.be/BWiLWuSeiOw
Or as trailblazing as this:
http://youtu.be/Cts_HY8bZwU
Edit: Pretty Sweet Elijah was the best version yet. Miss him :'(
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because people have opinions? what does Greg Hunt have to do with it?
Greg is defending his videography work, and rightfully so. Edit: he's also rightfully calling out the worst kind of joke.
At least people like Sean Pablo had a direct connection to Dylan, that influence has always made sense to me.
With Elijah, it almost seems like he was told to go for this new image. I know that's a reach, but that's honestly how fabricated this look appears.
i mean, there's only a 3 year age difference between sean and elijah, and a big enough age difference between dylan and those two were you're looking up to an older dude just seems completely normal. elijah also skated with dylan enough that he wanted him on aws & gravis.
WTF? When did this happen? Was it when Mike Mo was hyping him up as his favorite skater and he was only pictured skating Crail boards and Vans after leaving Foundation and Osiris (flow)?
Also, the dylan. in Berlin film wasn't hated. Everyone knew what dylan. was about at that time and took the artsy angle of it at face value and as a genuine expression of him as a person, even if they personally didn't like it.
EDIT: Also, a HUGE difference people are ignoring here is that when people hated on dylan. when he first started mixing high fashion with skating, it was because of his melding of the two worlds that people disliked - not his actual tricks or skating. And no one thought he was being inauthentic or that he wasn't interested in these two worlds or in combining them into skating. And eventually, he won people over and was beloved from late in his Gravis era until his too early passing. And in that time, he continued to grow as a skater, refining his style and his influence, and that's when he became really beloved by many. That is MASSIVELY different from someone biting his shit.
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If Greg, himself, who spent many years with Dylan Rieder, isn't bothered by the way Elijah conducts himself, why are any of you?
because people have opinions? what does Greg Hunt have to do with it?
Greg is defending his videography work, and rightfully so. Edit: he's also rightfully calling out the worst kind of joke.
At least people like Sean Pablo had a direct connection to Dylan, that influence has always made sense to me.
With Elijah, it almost seems like he was told to go for this new image. I know that's a reach, but that's honestly how fabricated this look appears.
i mean, there's only a 3 year age difference between sean and elijah, and a big enough age difference between dylan and those two were you're looking up to an older dude just seems completely normal. elijah also skated with dylan enough that he wanted him on aws & gravis.
WTF? When did this happen? Was it when Mike Mo was hyping him up as his favorite skater and he was only pictured skating Crail boards and Vans after leaving Foundation and Osiris (flow)?
Also, the dylan. in Berlin film wasn't hated. Everyone knew what dylan. was about at that time and took the artsy angle of it at face value and as a genuine expression of him as a person, even if they personally didn't like it.
EDIT: Also, a HUGE difference people are ignoring here is that when people hated on dylan. when he first started memixingding high fashion with skating, it was because of his melding of the two worlds that people disliked - not his actual tricks or skating. And no one thought he was being inauthentic or that he wasn't interested in these two worlds or in combining them into skating. And eventually, he won people over and was beloved from late in his Gravis era until his too early passing. And in that time, he continued to grow as a skater, refining his style and his influence, and that's when he became really beloved by many. That is MASSIVELY different from someone biting his shit.
I guess that vid was just hated in circles I belonged to at the time, which didn't include SLAP. I honestly just assumed the reception was poor here, but it's good to be surprised.
I tried to acknowledge that Dylan's style and bringing fashion into skating like that was something he did very originally, and that he persisted even though he was hated on because that was genuinely him.
Edit: did some homework and found the thread on that Huf video when it first came out. Reading the posts on the first page was enough for me to realize that yes, that video WAS hated on by many here (not my fav either lol), and the comments were a lot worse than "skating was great but he copied so and so's style." See for yourself here: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=80028.msg2172691#msg2172691 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=80028.msg2172691#msg2172691)
EDIT again: I see you in there with valid points like you stated here, along with others, defending and understanding what he and Huf were going for and big ups. More mature than many others in that thread...
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the huf/berlin vid was his most divisive part ever. i don't remember reactions being as strongly divided with his parts before. and i would say most people hated the editing and the soundtrack, not the skating. i didn't like the part that much either due to that, but loved his skating. but my favorite dylan part might actually be
in bloom. even though he looked rather normie in that part, even skating colorful dunks. but i love the music, editing and the tricks.
sorry i mean time to shine, brainfarted.
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you guys still just repeating yourselves in here huh?
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you guys still just repeating yourselves in here huh?
Yeah Greg Hunt been up in here and Elijah is still rustling our jimmies.
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Sure, Slap ripped on Dylan back in the day, but the difference is he was doing his own thing and Elijah is copying someone else. I don’t understand how this distinction is being ignored by people.
the distinction is Dylan was shit on for doing something original and once he passed away people defended that originality. so to sit here and be butthurt about someone else being drawn to that style as some sort of sin after YEARS of shit-talking it seems hypocritical
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Skating was great from both but the distraction of watching Elijah Piscopo Reider Gilette was more pronounced than i expected
Haha love that!! 😂
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I don’t think it’s a problem to be inspired by a skater you look up to, where they influence your skating and even the way you dress, but it looks like Elijah went to fuckyeahdylanrieder.tumblr.com and analyzed every fit Dylan wore and tried to copy all of them. Maybe it’s because Dylan’s style was so specific that it looks so annoying that you know exactly where it’s from? Even Austyn has started to drift off from Dylan cosplay to have a bit of his own style. I guess what I’m trying to say here is I like Gilbert Crockett’s dogs....
I definitely have to agree on the first part of the first sentence.
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First re-watch. Gil's part is classic. Berle put together an incredible vid. He looked so much like Dylan i almost cried the second time around. Consider it a homage and not cosplay now. Good. fucking. video.
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dude almost cried to a trunk boy
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dude almost cried to a trunk boy
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dude almost cried to a trunk boy