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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: RichardBarkley on September 24, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
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Does anyone ever take them after skating
I know it's obvs not good for you but I work a physical job and after a weekend skating. Work can be tough on Monday morning. My knees particularly.
I think taking some on Sunday evening would help.
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I take them before i go skating after work sometimes
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What do you take ?
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Like ibuprofen? I pop that shit like m&ms.
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I sometimes pop a few ibuprofen before skating especially when I'm sore beforehand. Careful if you like to throw back a few beers while skating, especially if you make both a habit. NSAIDs can give you a stomach ulcer by themselves, but alcohol being a blood thinner increases the risk.
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I'm allergic to NSAIDs so most of this advice will kill me.
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Ibuprofen
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Pineapple is the miracle cure for inflammation and also cleansing your tissue from residue after a sprain or injury.
There's an over the counter medication called Wobenzyme, also extracted from pineapple, that once made a tennis ball ankle recede in 5 days.
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A beer after 20 mins of skating. A beer when you get home. Fuck skating stairs
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I’m prescribed Mesalamine for my gut. but what helps me a lot are getting anti inflammatory meal prep cook books. A ginger and tumeric heavy diet complimented by a break up with ultra processed foods and added sugar really changed how well my body recovers after intense work outs. Meds work but you gotta meet them half way.
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Best to try and avoid them regularly. Take them after a session rather than before if you feel you need to. Taking them before is much worse for you as it can cause kidney problems, intestinal damage, etc. Also if you take it before you can numb pain that would indicate that you are pushing yourself too far and end up hurting yourself worse than you would otherwise. So definitely take it afterward if you have to but try to not take that shit regularly.
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I eat ibuprofen like smarties
I also put the arthritis voltaren on my hands in the morning, I’ll post a pic get this one brother
Also, those magnesium tablets
(https://i.ibb.co/g6prH59/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rvSQTC0)
Also, drink a metric fuck tonne of water in summer
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I’ve done 400-800 mg of Ibuprofen before long sessions. Like someone else said, especially if I was sore already. Or after a session before I go to bed. Past a certain point the soreness will mess with my sleep otherwise. I try to keep it in check though. Not more than once a week on average.
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Lots of stretching - I stretch all day long. I’m fortunate enough to work from home so I keep a yoga mat and foam roller in my home office, and use it periodically throughout the day, whether I am skating or not. Pilates really fucking helps - look at Brandon Turner! Dude keeps his instructor on speed dial and calls her up mid-sesh for advice.
For recovery, I love an epsom salt bath and I frequently use compression socks on my legs. There’s a lotta conflicting science on compression, but I find them soothing, so whateve - it works for me.
I agree with the no alcohol, sugar or grain bit, but I’m not too good at avoiding the latter two. These things absolutely and unequivocally promote inflammation, avoid them wherever you can.
I steer away from ibuprofen because it actually is pretty bad for liver and kidney function if you overdo it, so I’ve switched over to acetaminophen for the most part. Acetaminophen also helps with existential dread (no shit, this is real) so that’s a bonus.
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Lots of stretching - I stretch all day long. I’m fortunate enough to work from home so I keep a yoga mat and foam roller in my home office, and use it periodically throughout the day, whether I am skating or not. Pilates really fucking helps - look at Brandon Turner! Dude keeps his instructor on speed dial and calls her up mid-sesh for advice.
For recovery, I love an epsom salt bath and I frequently use compression socks on my legs. There’s a lotta conflicting science on compression, but I find them soothing, so whateve - it works for me.
I agree with the no alcohol, sugar or grain bit, but I’m not too good at avoiding the latter two. These things absolutely and unequivocally promote inflammation, avoid them wherever you can.
I steer away from ibuprofen because it actually is pretty bad for liver and kidney function if you overdo it, so I’ve switched over to acetaminophen for the most part. Acetaminophen also helps with existential dread (no shit, this is real) so that’s a bonus.
I agree that stretching is key and more advisable than Ibuprofen. I also feel that contrast showers help. Tiger Balm on muscles and Arnica on joints, too. I combine all of this with Ibuprofen for heavy cases of soreness and pain.
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Cold Showers.
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On and off they should be okay, but ask your doctor, not Slap lol.
Personally, I just listen to my body and I don't skate if it's not up for it. Do whatever you want as long as it feels good and there aren't drawbacks/side effects (stretching, icing, baths, compression sleeves, etc.) but in my opinion regular resistive/aerobic exercise (outside of skating. Even professional athletes can't sustain a long career on just playing alone) and taking rest days can't be replaced
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I don't. My knees and back no longer benefit from them. I just go the tiger balm, massage gun jigsaw, and massage rollers.
Ball crunches, planks, stretching, weighted hamstring curls, squats, and deadlifts have done a lot more to help my pain by strengthening my problem areas.
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glucosamine tablets, good stretching and Thai food
Mediterranean food also optional
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Yoga
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Cold bath, hot bath....
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Cheers lads yeah the livers probably rs
Rs means ratshit
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It’s also worth noting that inflammation is a normal bodily function. Without it your tissues will literally die lol. So in that sense I never use anti inflammatory agents like pills or even ice unless it’s really bad swelling that needs to be controlled.
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Pineapple is the miracle cure for inflammation and also cleansing your tissue from residue after a sprain or injury.
There's an over the counter medication called Wobenzyme, also extracted from pineapple, that once made a tennis ball ankle recede in 5 days.
This is exactly what I need. Thank you
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I steer away from ibuprofen because it actually is pretty bad for liver and kidney function if you overdo it
You have to do a lot of it, regularly, to seriously damage your organs. That being said, it’s obviously not a healthy choice, but if enables an extra session, I can see some benefit in it.
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I am also up for the yoga, cold baths, plant based diet with lots of green and berry smoothies, tumeric and giner in meals and as of supplementaion i do find magnesium quite useful.
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I wouldn’t. I got a 4 month straight stint of unbearable stomach pain from taking too much ibuprofen. Not worth it unless you’re really in pain.
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The range of answers in this thread is fantastic
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I beat my meat after
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Been taking ibuprofen for pain/fever/especially headaches since I was a kid and nothing else works better. 600mg. I don't have to take it that often and I make sure I eat a little food with it. Solubized liquigels are the best form and it kicks in fast.
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Try applying essential wintergreen oil. Powerful stuff. I use it in my showergel (I buy a gallon of neutral/unperfumed shower gel and add essential oils) but you can also apply it undiluted on the hurting joints.
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rest.
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Ice bath..
Grab a bag of ice on the way home its super cheap. Chuck it in the bath with cold water as deep as u can handle, hold your breathe realise its gunna suck and just climb on in for aslong as you can handle and then add another 5-10 mins onto that.
Ull get out shower and feel like you didnt bail once.
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Try applying essential wintergreen oil. Powerful stuff. I use it in my showergel (I buy a gallon of neutral/unperfumed shower gel and add essential oils) but you can also apply it undiluted on the hurting joints.
What is "shower gel" -sounds random, especially by the gallon. Do you know the ingredients?
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Try applying essential wintergreen oil. Powerful stuff. I use it in my showergel (I buy a gallon of neutral/unperfumed shower gel and add essential oils) but you can also apply it undiluted on the hurting joints.
I do. It‘s this:
https://cosmeticobs.com/en/products/centifolia-60/gel-douche-1451/neutral-shower-gel-1-liter-34-us-floz-3745 (https://cosmeticobs.com/en/products/centifolia-60/gel-douche-1451/neutral-shower-gel-1-liter-34-us-floz-3745)
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Lots of good stuff in here. I'd go easy with the ibuprofen and try elements of anti-imflamatory diet as much as possible. Extra virgin olive oil, fish, vegetables, nuts. I put some of that manuka honey in my porridge in the mornings too but it's expensive as shit. Interestingly, my friend got diagnosed with MS at 22 and has strictly followed an anti-imflammatory diet for 16 years and has had no further advancement of his symptoms.
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I wouldn’t. I got a 4 month straight stint of unbearable stomach pain from taking too much ibuprofen. Not worth it unless you’re really in pain.
My girl had this happen to her and she didn't really even take that much for her stomach lining to get inflamed.
I personally take ibuprofen 2-3x a week but it's normally for neck pain as opposed to any skate related pain. I've been nursing a tweaked ankle so I'll take some extra if the pain is bad, but I try to ice and stretch before that
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I eat pretty well and my diet is mostly anti inflammatory foods. All through my 20s and 30s beer and shit food had me inflamed/bloated/American. My knees and ankles felt like a flaming car wreck. In the past year I have made major changes and am 40 years old but feeling better than I have at any point in the past 20 years.
Now, I do a legs work out, and slimmed down 60 pounds through eating foods my body actually want. The most I do post session is yin yoga. The best defense for me is a good offense
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I eat pretty well and my diet is mostly anti inflammatory foods. All through my 20s and 30s beer and shit food had me inflamed/bloated/American. My knees and ankles felt like a flaming car wreck. In the past year I have made major changes and am 40 years old but feeling better than I have at any point in the past 20 years.
Now, I do a legs work out, and slimmed down 60 pounds through eating foods my body actually want. The most I do post session is yin yoga. The best defense for me is a good offense
Interesting man
Can you expand on your diet ?
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A good CBD balm combined with Epsom salt bath after skating works a treat 👌🏼
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Does anyone ever take them after skating
I know it's obvs not good for you but I work a physical job and after a weekend skating. Work can be tough on Monday morning. My knees particularly.
I think taking some on Sunday evening would help.
If you have the means, trust me and buy this stuff. it's kinda like a tiger balm CBD hybrid. works wonders.
https://www.saje.com/product/extra-strength-701083.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=us-smart-shopping&utm_term=_pla-1398508003355&ad_id={adid}&gclid=CjwKCAjw-sqKBhBjEiwAVaQ9a_IeuBdAo4N4_66AoAKuphKLMZn1B3rTRwvfbw1c8Svwor6d4woGlxoCiRAQAvD_BwE
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a lot of recent sports medicine research says that nsaids like ibuprofen actually slow down the removal of old crummy tissue from a swollen area, having something to do with the way they thin blood or something. im not a medical doctor so i don't know the details, but i do have a phd in a different stem field, and access to all the big journals thru my job, so i've skimmed thru a bunch of the relevant studies and it seems to make sense.
trainers today will often say to use acetaminophen instead of ibuprofen now because it doesn't have this effect. but it's still tough on your stomach and all that, so best to not make it too regular of a habit.
how do you avoid needing constant relief from pain meds like advil or tylenol? try as many of the other suggestions in this thread as possible. for me a regular strength training plan has done wonders. i could barely skate at all for a few years ago, but after working on core and glute strength for a while i am now skating pretty decently.
another thing that i didn't see mentioned is KT tape (also called kinesiology tape). this stuff helps me out big time. the difference between how sore my knees will be after a session when i tape them up vs how they'll feel if i dont is pretty huge. here's a link to the product i use: https://www.kttape.com/
the type of knee pain that i had, and a type that's very common among skateboarders, is patellofemoral pain syndrome, also known ass 'runners knee.' it's often caused by dysfunction in the glutes, and improved through lots of squatting type exercises, as well as foam rolling and targeted stretches.
physical therapist Kyle Brown did a series of workout plans, discussions, etc on this common issue and the ways to treat it. it's paywalled but i spent the 10 bucks to get what i wanted and then canceled, it was worth it (and cheaper than seeing an IRL physical therapist, although I hope to do that eventually as well): https://www.patreon.com/oldfriendsfitness
and finally, here's a tutorial for how to apply KT tape when you have patellofemoral pain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWSXhcb67-o
note that there are several other ways you might apply the tape and i'm not a trainer or physical therapist don't know if this is necessarily the best, but it seems to work for me.
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Aleve for body aches. Advil for headaches.
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a lot of recent sports medicine research says that nsaids like ibuprofen actually slow down the removal of old crummy tissue from a swollen area, having something to do with the way they thin blood or something. im not a medical doctor so i don't know the details, but i do have a phd in a different stem field, and access to all the big journals thru my job, so i've skimmed thru a bunch of the relevant studies and it seems to make sense.
trainers today will often say to use acetaminophen instead of ibuprofen now because it doesn't have this effect. but it's still tough on your stomach and all that, so best to not make it too regular of a habit.
how do you avoid needing constant relief from pain meds like advil or tylenol? try as many of the other suggestions in this thread as possible. for me a regular strength training plan has done wonders. i could barely skate at all for a few years ago, but after working on core and glute strength for a while i am now skating pretty decently.
another thing that i didn't see mentioned is KT tape (also called kinesiology tape). this stuff helps me out big time. the difference between how sore my knees will be after a session when i tape them up vs how they'll feel if i dont is pretty huge. here's a link to the product i use: https://www.kttape.com/
the type of knee pain that i had, and a type that's very common among skateboarders, is patellofemoral pain syndrome, also known ass 'runners knee.' it's often caused by dysfunction in the glutes, and improved through lots of squatting type exercises, as well as foam rolling and targeted stretches.
physical therapist Kyle Brown did a series of workout plans, discussions, etc on this common issue and the ways to treat it. it's paywalled but i spent the 10 bucks to get what i wanted and then canceled, it was worth it (and cheaper than seeing an IRL physical therapist, although I hope to do that eventually as well): https://www.patreon.com/oldfriendsfitness
and finally, here's a tutorial for how to apply KT tape when you have patellofemoral pain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWSXhcb67-o
note that there are several other ways you might apply the tape and i'm not a trainer or physical therapist don't know if this is necessarily the best, but it seems to work for me.
I'm glad you're doing better but I just want people to know that kinesio tape is most likely a huge scam and does absolutely nothing. Like literally think about how it could possibly work. Makes zero sense and there is no scientific proof whatsoever
https://www.painscience.com/articles/kinesio-taping.php (https://www.painscience.com/articles/kinesio-taping.php)
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a lot of recent sports medicine research says that nsaids like ibuprofen actually slow down the removal of old crummy tissue from a swollen area, having something to do with the way they thin blood or something. im not a medical doctor so i don't know the details, but i do have a phd in a different stem field, and access to all the big journals thru my job, so i've skimmed thru a bunch of the relevant studies and it seems to make sense.
trainers today will often say to use acetaminophen instead of ibuprofen now because it doesn't have this effect. but it's still tough on your stomach and all that, so best to not make it too regular of a habit.
how do you avoid needing constant relief from pain meds like advil or tylenol? try as many of the other suggestions in this thread as possible. for me a regular strength training plan has done wonders. i could barely skate at all for a few years ago, but after working on core and glute strength for a while i am now skating pretty decently.
another thing that i didn't see mentioned is KT tape (also called kinesiology tape). this stuff helps me out big time. the difference between how sore my knees will be after a session when i tape them up vs how they'll feel if i dont is pretty huge. here's a link to the product i use: https://www.kttape.com/
the type of knee pain that i had, and a type that's very common among skateboarders, is patellofemoral pain syndrome, also known ass 'runners knee.' it's often caused by dysfunction in the glutes, and improved through lots of squatting type exercises, as well as foam rolling and targeted stretches.
physical therapist Kyle Brown did a series of workout plans, discussions, etc on this common issue and the ways to treat it. it's paywalled but i spent the 10 bucks to get what i wanted and then canceled, it was worth it (and cheaper than seeing an IRL physical therapist, although I hope to do that eventually as well): https://www.patreon.com/oldfriendsfitness
and finally, here's a tutorial for how to apply KT tape when you have patellofemoral pain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWSXhcb67-o
note that there are several other ways you might apply the tape and i'm not a trainer or physical therapist don't know if this is necessarily the best, but it seems to work for me.
I'm glad you're doing better but I just want people to know that kinesio tape is most likely a huge scam and does absolutely nothing. Like literally think about how it could possibly work. Makes zero sense and there is no scientific proof whatsoever
https://www.painscience.com/articles/kinesio-taping.php (https://www.painscience.com/articles/kinesio-taping.php)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was introduced to taping by an actual physical therapist who i saw for 2 years or so, during which time I made some massive improvements. Since his advice was usually pretty good, I didn’t bother to look too deeply into studies about it.
Kyle Brown (an actual doctor, fwiw, although he didn’t exactly go to Harvard Medical school, but I digress) also advocates it, *at least for this particular condition* and he’s a PT who’s worked with a bunch of pro skaters we all know. I emphasize the “for this particular” condition” aspect here because I think it’s important to note that all of the things we’re discussing in this thread, from Advil to foam rolling to changes in diet, are going to work better for certain people with certain conditions and worse for others. Ideally we would all have a good PT who we trust who can help with this shit and give us personalized, educated advice.
Anyway, the article you shared here presents a review of other articles, and there’s a section that summarizes a few of them. They found that taping didn’t make people stronger, didn’t make them jump higher, etc. That’s all a bit different than “does it reduce some soreness from a chronic condition.” I’m not saying there aren’t any studies that find taping is ineffective in that sense. There probably are. But this gets to a really key point about research in sports medicine: it’s really tough to develop a consensus around anything like this because the studies are all designed to test subtly different hypotheses with subtly different methods.
The article you shared also has a really quick note that I think is worth highlighting: “[methods like taping] drive a more potent placebo effect by using persuasive sensations, like tape on your skin. A more potent placebo is still just a placebo, and it doesn’t mean the treatment works.”
This is a slightly incorrect premise. Our sense of proprioception (sensing input and adjusting the body accordingly) means that sometimes just introducing a “persuasive sensation” actually CAN provide certain kinds of relief, and may even help to re-train the way you perform certain motions to a positive end. This is basically the premise behind trigger point release therapy, which (I think) has become pretty accepted *for certain conditions* (again, it’s key to emphasize that none of these things are a magic bullet for every condition). It’s also at play with acupuncture, which is another treatment that you can find wildly varying opinions on in the literature. Some say it’s great, others say it’s BS, but I suspect it has way more to do with the particulars of who gets it, for what condition, and how it’s applied.
(Speaking of acupuncture, that’s another thing OP might try. I’ve done it a few times and had extremely varied results, ranging from good relief to pretty much no change to actually making shit worse. But maybe it’s worth a try.)
Anyway, this site you linked is called “painscience.com” and it’s run by a guy who calls himself a “science journalist” (not a doctor or practitioner of any kind, although I see he used to be a massage therapist), and it mostly exists to sell eBooks. Now I’m not saying this makes it disreputable. Hell, I’m interested to read some of his books! But we shouldn’t take his word to be gospel.
Maybe the real takeaway here is that pain relief is still a pretty mysterious field, and there is a LOT of disagreement. Hell, even ice, the thing many of us take for granted, is up for debate now. Sure, there’s new research saying it could be counterproductive. But there are also I guarantee legions of doctors, nurses, trainers, and parents who use ice to treat injuries all the time and do just fine.
So OP, don’t fret. Just try everything. I mean seriously, everything. Don’t expect it to actually work. Eventually you’ll find something that does, whatever it is. :)
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Foam roller and the secret weapon...
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Sauna, CBD & Magnesium.