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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: zeroepedition on October 07, 2021, 08:11:38 PM
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Prove me wrong. Don't worry, I'll wait.
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Baker has a breathmint
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(https://c.tenor.com/9ItR8nSuxE0AAAAC/thumbs-up-computer.gif)
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While the boss laughs all the way to the bank thinking a bout slappers discussing which of his both brands are better.
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Video for video totally, but I think Baker could be most improved
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Wow, hot take. Really stirred up a shitstorm with this one.
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Wow, hot take. Really stirred up a shitstorm with this one.
Most people are too upset to comment
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Wow, hot take. Really stirred up a shitstorm with this one.
Most people are too upset to comment
That makes sense. Thoughts and prayers out to those struggling with this one.
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(https://i.imgur.com/1f5iciz.jpg)
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I'd still go baker over deathwish. Mostly because I love the boss and spankys low impact skating but I guess t funk and kader are cool too.
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Just copped a deathwish bloard so I can live with this assessment.
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In b4 anyone else asks what happened to Brian slash Hansen
But seriously, hope that dood ok
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This fool’s got me so angry I can barely breathe.
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Moose and Furby FOREVER. Someone please put their faces on the Shining twins.
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who has a better team than who? i’ve never heard of these companies
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True statement. Deathwish video and team is better but a bit in my opinion. Delfino Kirby foy and Julian are just fun to watch. Don’t care for neen but whatever. Boss and spanly are aging like fine wine though.
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
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Sort of like a style over substance debate. I would argue that Rowan, Kader, and Tyson have enough style to outmatch the objective substance that Foy, Kirby, and Pedro contribute. But that's just the skateboarding I would rather see personally, all those guys rip, really splitting hairs here.
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now im gonna go rewatch the deathwish vid, thanks for the reminder
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
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Shit take. Baker isn’t what it used to be but it’s still a pretty solid team. Pedro and Kirby are the only guys on Deathwish that are even remotely interesting.
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But Baker have Jacopo and Baca
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Pedro is insane but besides that deathwish doesn't really have any skaters that outdo the young guys on baker, or even the older guys. Figgy>Foy :-X
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The Deathwish team has had a refresh the last few years and just has less fat on it where the Baker team keeps adding people and doesn't let them go very often so it's more bloated. If you slimmed it down to a core size closer to the Deathwish team they'd seem stronger than they currently do.
Kader, T-Funk, Tyson, Jacopo, Baca, Reynolds, Spanky, Figgy and Rowan
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Moose and Furby FOREVER. Someone please put their faces on the Shining twins.
Moose, Furry, Antwuan, Ellington. Unbeatable man
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Figgy>Foy :-X
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Depends if Greco will put his pants on sale or not
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Low impact/dad skating footage of Boss and Spanly trumps all currently.
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Neen vs Theotis who you guys got?
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Neen vs Theotis who you guys got?
This the real thread. Ugh, neen I guess? Hate watching both of them.
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I like deathwish a little more than Baker but Deathwish might be one of the worst names for a successful skate company.
It's not like alien workshop or toy machine where the name is so bad its actually good.
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I’ve been waiting for a Pedro part since Uncrossed. Will he drop something this year in time for SOTY?
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Neen vs Theotis who you guys got?
theotis can do more than 2 tricks so i’ll take his side
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Neen vs Theotis who you guys got?
Neen could get a predatory loan from Theotis to open a Cross-fit gym
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As long is Pedro keeps that fking bandanna off if dome. Its worse than the red bull hats.
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I’ve been waiting for a Pedro part since Uncrossed. Will he drop something this year in time for SOTY?
I think I saw mention of a homies full length. If that happens maybe Pedro have a full part in it.
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Neen vs Theotis who you guys got?
I got Neen for providing a post skate session meal.
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I think the whole premise is kind of irrelevant. Deathwish has a great team of talented skaters and their image works and their videos consistently deliver.
Baker has a way more iconic legacy and mythos, and Reynolds seems to forgo skill assessments in favor of something else that I don't think even he can put his finger on.
Baker riders tend to become STARS and icons, while Deathwish is a great home for people who are nice and rip on a skateboard.
Andrew Reynolds has an amazing ability to identify not just great skaters, but generation-defining skaters. Think of all the quotes and memes and storied careers that came from Baker 3 alone. And give them the space to shine and bring out the best (and worst) of themselves and each other.
It's not 100% on the money every time (for every Jacopo or Kader, you get Cyril Jackson and Dee Ostrander) but wow it is incredible to see how Reynolds has managed to keep his finger on the pulse for several decades now.
I think that's why he will almost always be respected and borderline revered by the skateboarding community writ large.
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In b4 anyone else asks what happened to Brian slash Hansen
But seriously, hope that dood ok
Wait what did happen to him? Last i heard he was living in a storage container house.
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
Rowan is the answer.
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Baker has more street cred, better name, and better style...
DW has more technical talent on the board... KIRBY anyone?
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Baker has more street cred, better name, and better style...
DW has more technical talent on the board... KIRBY anyone?
Nah, no one.
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BAKER, BAKER, BAKER
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Who cares they're not meant to be the same thing which is why they exist. It's kinda like sayin Habitat is better than Alien these days, which could be true, but they're no longer the same duo they were when the child company was founded.
To me Deathwish is kind of a hesh Real, not in bad way either
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Who cares they're not meant to be the same thing which is why they exist. It's kinda like sayin Habitat is better than Alien these days, which could be true, but they're no longer the same duo they were when the child company was founded.
To me Deathwish is kind of a hesh Real, not in bad way either
In damn near every thread someone comes in hot with the "who cares". Such a low effort, predicable attempt at making a non-argument, but at least people know that you don't care now.
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Neckface graphics are the reason I never buy a deathwish or baker board. His art gives me trailer park vibes.
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I can't believe you'd put something so controversial on SLAP. Watch out, there's gonna be a witch hunt soon, you brave mad lad.
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I attribute deathwish's relative success these days to Reynolds kinda taking over. Seems like Ellington and Greco have all but abandoned the brand they started. Nowhere in sight when they welcomed Julian to the team. (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/images/image/Features/2020/Julian_Davidson_Deathwish/16_Julian_Davidson_Deathwish_1x.jpg?t=1597879431)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmuC7WTDwNw
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Low impact/dad skating footage of Boss and Spanly trumps all currently.
Would hardly call it "dad skating". Those fools are ripping harder than 90% of slap ever will myself included.
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take rowan tfunk and kader and put them against pedro kirby and jon dickson on a month long trip. the set of three that come back with the best/most enjoyable footage not only settle this argument, but give us something worth watching.
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Yeah and Deathwish has Ellington, and he skated to Danzig. So that sounds about right
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I guess you could say Baker has a Deathwish
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Yeah and Deathwish has Ellington, and he skated to Danzig. So that sounds about right
Had Ellington, he’s long gone… but you know who else had Ellington? Baker, so it’s a tie there I guess
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
tu tru
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
tu tru
same for Jacopo
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Who will be Soty this year? Hands down Jim Greco
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both brands are very visible/popular for very different reasons which is good,
deathwish slowly having more of its own renaissance sparked by Foy's SOTY SLAUGHTER/ shoe but who would've thought that Kirby would win that red bull solus thing and that other vans contest, Pedro's sister is pro means more visibility as well add Dickson being the focus of emerica and you have your self an era
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Subjective opinion. Not a bad way to get a conversation tho. Each team has really sick skaters. Jacopo, Kader, Spanky and Zorilla are my favs out of both teams so I guess I'm team Baker? Death wish has hella rippers I just prefer those 4 out of the whole bunch
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
Oceanside's finest
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
Love Rowan, but Jon Dickson footage is also gold in a different way.
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rowan > entire deathwish team combined
Does his footage stay gold after time? Is this ever green? Or is it just is what it is?
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Who cares they're not meant to be the same thing which is why they exist. It's kinda like sayin Habitat is better than Alien these days, which could be true, but they're no longer the same duo they were when the child company was founded.
To me Deathwish is kind of a hesh Real, not in bad way either
In damn near every thread someone comes in hot with the "who cares". Such a low effort, predicable attempt at making a non-argument, but at least people know that you don't care now.
Locking a brand to a static image and where a specific set of riders are at what stage in their life doesn't make sense for any brand. Baker has Jacopo, Rowan, Kader, AR (one of the best of all time), Figgy still kills it and has a market, and they've had hype around them for 20 years. They're not the Baker 3 dudes, but they're not trying to be and to me it's a better brand because their footage, videos, and boards are more interesting. They all skate and hang together and went from a stoner idea to a huge distro.
Deathwish put out a "better" video in terms of difficulty and gnar for sure. To me they have a less coherent image. Foy would be a better fit on a jock team like Real, Delfino is bonkers but fits AH better, and as I go through the mental list it seems they're forcing "good" riders to be an alt super team. They don't have a back catalog a fraction of the depth of Baker and their art direction seems to migrate.
So no, they are not comparable. They're not trying to be either. I care enough to reply, but it's just a stupid argument to be having. Brands evolve and go through phases, Baker has enough clout to easily bring on a few more dope riders and put out a video that is one for the ages.
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S Tier: Reynolds
A+ Tier: Ellington, Greco, Spanky, Foy, Kirby, Antuwan, Elissa, Kader, Herman, Dollin
A Tier: Jacopo, Leo Romero, Rowan, Tyson, Jake Hayes, Pedro Delfino, Jon Dickson
B Tier: Lizard King, Furby, Trapasso, Theotis, Slash, Braydon, Julian Davidson, Victoria Ruesaga, Evan Hernandez
C Tier: Moose, Dee Ostrander, Lenoce, Zach Allen
D Tier: Knox Godoy, TK, Sinner
Who am I missing? Donta Hill(sp?) I dont really know much about him also not sure if he was even fully on or just flow
i feel like they are pretty evenly stacked at the moment, baker just had a shittier video. I wish they would go with more short edits more often... long videos get too over hyped etc.
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Deathwish is a badass name for a skate company.
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S Tier: Reynolds
A+ Tier: Ellington, Greco, Spanky, Foy, Kirby, Antuwan, Elissa, Kader, Herman, Dollin
A Tier: Jacopo, Leo Romero, Rowan, Tyson, Jake Hayes, Pedro Delfino, Jon Dickson
B Tier: Lizard King, Furby, Trapasso, Theotis, Slash, Braydon, Julian Davidson, Victoria Ruesaga, Evan Hernandez
C Tier: Moose, Dee Ostrander, Lenoce, Zach Allen
D Tier: Knox Godoy, TK, Sinner
Who am I missing? Donta Hill(sp?) I dont really know much about him also not sure if he was even fully on or just flow
i feel like they are pretty evenly stacked at the moment, baker just had a shittier video. I wish they would go with more short edits more often... long videos get too over hyped etc.
Donta is on max allure i think, he was featured prominently in their new video
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supreme will sponsor you if you ride for baker, but they won't if you ride for deathwish. make of that what you will.
why because 2 guy on baker on got on supreme? lol i think it has moreso to do with the type of guys baker/deathwish in general attracts are kinda the opposite of what supreme pushes til now
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Baker = fresh, Deathwish = hesh!!!! Write that down in your diaries tonight. Get a tramp stamp of it. Call your mommy, call ya daddy. They are yin and yang. Is like Hockey if you shopped at Kohl’s as a child or FA when you bought your shit from Foot Locker Jr. It’s like if you go to the store, you can find different variations on the same soda: Pepsi, Cherry Pepsi. All those checks are going back to Dr. Pepper at the end of the day if you got the regular flavor or the cherry. They don’t care. It’s more about you: what do you like? They’re getting your money either way so you might as well pick the flavor you like the most.
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Baker = fresh, Deathwish = hesh!!!! Write that down in your diaries tonight. Get a tramp stamp of it. Call your mommy, call ya daddy. They are yin and yang. Is like Hockey if you shopped at Kohl’s as a child or FA when you bought your shit from Foot Locker Jr. It’s like if you go to the store, you can find different variations on the same soda: Pepsi, Cherry Pepsi. All those checks are going back to Dr. Pepper at the end of the day if you got the regular flavor or the cherry. They don’t care. It’s more about you: what do you like? They’re getting your money either way so you might as well pick the flavor you like the most.
Don’t you dare bring Dr Pepper into this mess of a thread!
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Deathwish died without Tuan. Greco and Ellington seem to have nothing to do with it anymore. Kader, Rowan, Jacopo...... Baker wins by far!!
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S Tier: Reynolds
A+ Tier: Ellington, Greco, Spanky, Foy, Kirby, Antuwan, Elissa, Kader, Herman, Dollin
A Tier: Jacopo, Leo Romero, Rowan, Tyson, Jake Hayes, Pedro Delfino, Jon Dickson
B Tier: Lizard King, Furby, Trapasso, Theotis, Slash, Braydon, Julian Davidson, Victoria Ruesaga, Evan Hernandez
C Tier: Moose, Dee Ostrander, Lenoce, Zach Allen
D Tier: Knox Godoy, TK, Sinner
Who am I missing? Donta Hill(sp?) I dont really know much about him also not sure if he was even fully on or just flow
i feel like they are pretty evenly stacked at the moment, baker just had a shittier video. I wish they would go with more short edits more often... long videos get too over hyped etc.
Donta is on max allure i think, he was featured prominently in their new video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISxlJl3tzCk
Donta was fully on for a quick second.
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supreme will sponsor you if you ride for baker, but they won't if you ride for deathwish. make of that what you will.
supreme barely sponsors anybody so i don't think this comparison is quite apt.
baker is better by far
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Interesting both teams have exactly one girl :-X
wonder if that is a brand decision to have a girl slot on each team and thats maybe why Aori isnt fully on?
Victoria has some great styles and Elissa has had some fantastic outfits over the years
i feel like the men on the team fashion has been lacking lately beisdes Jake Hayes. the rest of the guys do not look dateable at all besides maybe Rowan. Kirby looking pretty good too actually especailly if he smiles a bit more. Jon Dickson seems like he has went in the opposite direction I thought he was looking pretty good early on. some men age like a fine wine like ellington, others do not like dollin ;D
its funny for how mcuh they are all seemingly into fashion aside from a few of them, Baker / Deathwish really cant make clothes to save their life. they always try all these off brands like supra, krew, altamont etc. greco and ellington have all these weird shoe companies going on, and they have all failed as far as i can tell or are just some limited run bullshit. clothing manufacturers will always have skateboarders by the balls it seems
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You know what’s crazy? Skate mental has a better team then both of them in 2021.
Koston
Antonio
Karen
Fernando
Georgi
Wigwam
Jack Curtin
Motta
Plunker
Jake Anderson
That guy with the big pants
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Kader A+ tier?
I dunno about that
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Kader A+ tier?
I dunno about that
Yeah forreal that list is terrible
Both of these brands are for little kids. I ain’t fuckin with either of them tbh. Jamie foy does some insane shit though. And japoco.
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Kader probably has the most following + hype out of everyone on the entire team right now besides Foy. ppl will remember him for a long time you cant deny that. he has put out some pretty sick stuff too. him and rowan had the most memorable stuff on the baker video.
Kirby one of my favorite skaters on the squad but he is not as well known as those other guys but i think he will be in time, same with Pedro Delfino.
realized i forgot figgy on the list, id put him A tier. also forgot T Funk, I feel like he is B+ i just havent seen enough of his footage, ppl seem to like him though so could be A.
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^ you forgot Sammy B too
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oh yeah his part was actually really good on that video. id put him above lizard king for sure.
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^ you forgot Sammy B too
Probably the best part in Baker 4 tbh, was a huge surprise. Hadn't really seen much from him before (after baker 3), and haven't seen anything since, because of that I'm not sure I would rank him so high. Def rad though.
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As an ambassador for the youth here on Slap, I report that it is mind boggling how much young people love Kader.
Not in a way that is undeserved, just in the sense that he’s every 15-18 year old skater I run into’s favorite pro.
Reminiscent of the Dylan craze when I was that age.
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^^
im in that age group and Kader is literally everybody i know's favorite skater. i'd say most of the baker team is revered by 15-18 year olds. Deathwish doesnt really sell good here but people love Pedro
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You know what’s crazy? Skate mental has a better team then both of them in 2021.
Koston
Antonio
Karen
Fernando
Georgi
Wigwam
Jack Curtin
Motta
Plunker
Jake Anderson
That guy with the big pants
they just put curren on too
and is koston actuallt on skate mental? i thought he was just getting guest boards i never saw an announcement
honestly a pretty good fit for koston
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supreme will sponsor you if you ride for baker, but they won't if you ride for deathwish. make of that what you will.
Supreme has a Bakerwish
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Baker just aint what a it use to be.. Those young heads riding for baker rocking Piss Drunx hoodies at contests when the dudes not even born before Reynolds blacked out on his first beer. Deathwish is just in the name gnarly skaters doing impressive crazy shit I would just sit down for. Baker is washed up.
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Deathwish is a badass name for a skate company.
I came here to say the opposite. Its just a dumb name.
Tough choice for whos better but i’d lean towards deathwish. not a neen or foy fan they are good at what they do but don’t really fit anymore.