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Title: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: tuesday on November 28, 2021, 12:16:49 PM
Every now and then someone adds a new twist to an old trick, opening a new perspective on it. I am thinking of for instance Ronnie Sandoval's tailboned fs inverts that look like sad plants:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.MlEIQs27tvp_XmhzA-D33QHaGl%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Or Mami Tezuka's fs smith grinds with the back knee and foot twisted to the side:
 
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/51fb0c31e4b07d5d9e44a6b7/1632499345560-0FM0TKTVW7KTWFQUSZEE/Screen+Shot+2021-09-24+at+9.01.54+AM.png?format=750w)

Or Jimmie Wilkins' not only taking vert ollies to new heights (head-high ollie 540ffs), but doing bs ollies with the knee (almost) touching the grip:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-q8dM4aGBnfoHazGAoJS3QHaEV%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Anyone can think of others to add something new and stylish to an old trick?
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Dark Knight on November 28, 2021, 12:54:48 PM
Herman and Carroll’s hardflips
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: friendly dave on November 28, 2021, 01:03:06 PM
Muska flips.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Easy Slider on November 28, 2021, 01:23:38 PM
Penny

Kickflips
Frontside Flips
Switch Kickflips
Switch Frontside Flips

First one to do them how they are meant to be done.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Mean salto on November 28, 2021, 03:00:11 PM
Dylan turned the impossible from a glorified pressure flip into a functional trick that can be done almost as high as an ollie over things/ controlled into other tricks.
Ed Templeton also reinvented it back in the early 90s and he even had a trick tip on the early 00s outright saying you can't really pop it its just good to do off bumps or hips etc

Kevin terpening made the step hop actually work as a functional thing to do.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: HatRemovalService on November 28, 2021, 04:54:00 PM
I forgot the part but I saw some shit on thrasher where a dude skaters like grocery store parking lot stuff and in it he did a pop shuv but wrapped it like an impossible, looked pretty cool and I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Circaskater420 on November 28, 2021, 07:07:20 PM
The trendy front 180 that went around Instagram for a week last summer. 
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: CorneliusCardew on November 28, 2021, 07:31:15 PM
People doing frontside flips by catching a kickflip straight and then turning a really late 180
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: cky enthusiast on November 28, 2021, 08:10:27 PM
a roast beef is technically a really poorly executed stalefish
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: ndsr on November 28, 2021, 08:18:02 PM
a roast beef is technically a really poorly executed stalefish
Grosso the inventor of the roast beef agreed.  RIP Grosso
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Mike Oxwelling on November 29, 2021, 06:40:17 AM
Every now and then someone adds a new twist to an old trick, opening a new perspective on it. I am thinking of for instance Ronnie Sandoval's tailboned fs inverts that look like sad plants:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.MlEIQs27tvp_XmhzA-D33QHaGl%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Or Mami Tezuka's fs smith grinds with the back knee and foot twisted to the side:
 
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/51fb0c31e4b07d5d9e44a6b7/1632499345560-0FM0TKTVW7KTWFQUSZEE/Screen+Shot+2021-09-24+at+9.01.54+AM.png?format=750w)

Or Jimmie Wilkins' not only taking vert ollies to new heights (head-high ollie 540ffs), but doing bs ollies with the knee (almost) touching the grip:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-q8dM4aGBnfoHazGAoJS3QHaEV%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Anyone can think of others to add something new and stylish to an old trick?

1) Neil Blender
2) Too many to list
3) The Gonz

Literally none of this is new.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: skunty on November 29, 2021, 07:05:31 AM
not sure if it fits the thread cuz i dont think ive seen him or anyone really do it the same way again, but remember Versace Plug's switch backside flip that put him on the map like 5 years ago?
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: cky enthusiast on November 29, 2021, 07:09:38 AM
blender didn’t do frontside inverts really, let
alone like that
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Mike Oxwelling on November 29, 2021, 07:21:13 AM
blender didn’t do frontside inverts really, let
alone like that
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lol
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Mickey Knox on November 29, 2021, 07:52:30 AM
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Every now and then someone adds a new twist to an old trick, opening a new perspective on it. I am thinking of for instance Ronnie Sandoval's tailboned fs inverts that look like sad plants:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.MlEIQs27tvp_XmhzA-D33QHaGl%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Or Mami Tezuka's fs smith grinds with the back knee and foot twisted to the side:
 
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/51fb0c31e4b07d5d9e44a6b7/1632499345560-0FM0TKTVW7KTWFQUSZEE/Screen+Shot+2021-09-24+at+9.01.54+AM.png?format=750w)

Or Jimmie Wilkins' not only taking vert ollies to new heights (head-high ollie 540ffs), but doing bs ollies with the knee (almost) touching the grip:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-q8dM4aGBnfoHazGAoJS3QHaEV%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Anyone can think of others to add something new and stylish to an old trick?
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1) Neil Blender
2) Too many to list
3) The Gonz

Literally none of this is new.
At least someone here knows their shit. All of these dudes got inspiration from people who did it 30+ years ago. Doesn’t make it any less sick though.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 29, 2021, 07:58:57 AM
This was way back, but I remember Bryan Herman doing a hardflip that looked like a combination of a fs shove and kickflip in this is skateboarding, at a time when most people weren’t doing them like that. Felt like he ushered in a wave of new hardflips.

I might be wrong, but I think Ellington reinvented pressure flips by taking them down big stairs like Hollywood high.

Nollie 360 flips weren’t popular for a long time, then they became more in vogue…maybe it was Biebel who started popping them higher and down bigger stairs?

Kyota may be reinventing Willy grinds…
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: MyUserName on November 29, 2021, 08:29:35 AM
I distinctly remember what was probably Herman’s first interview in Thrasher (the issue with his kickflip on the cover) they captioned a hardflip of his as an “inward kickflip.” Still the only time I’ve seen that, and goes to show how different his approach was.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: bust.factor on November 29, 2021, 08:34:59 AM
Antonio durao does a roast beef tailgrab in this clip “rump roast” good name and trick if you ask me. 7:08

Also worth it to stick around for Durao’s insane line starting at 7:40 and probably the best front heel I’ve ever seen right after

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GmESm3ap-sA&t=198s
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: rawbertson. on November 29, 2021, 08:38:20 AM
Penny

Kickflips
Frontside Flips
Switch Kickflips
Switch Frontside Flips

First one to do them how they are meant to be done.

fs shifty flips too and maybe bs? but if not then probably Braydon was the first person to really set those off
mason silva has his own way of doing hardflips too kinda id say with the feet tucked like that

not sure who invented the yo flip, josiah gatlin maybe, but that trend was ass  ;D

neen with the heelflips
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Patey on November 29, 2021, 08:44:42 AM
that one gif of forrest doing a back smith and his nose scrapes on the ground
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: mushroom slice on November 29, 2021, 08:46:07 AM
a roast beef is technically a really poorly executed stalefish
I thought stale fish was back hand behind back leg and roast beef was just back hand in the middle of both legs?
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: MR102889 on November 29, 2021, 10:13:43 AM
Frontside Crooked Grinds. Back in the day as long as the front truck was crooked, it was a Front Crook. Now people learned to pinch that front truck.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: dr.prestige on November 29, 2021, 10:35:26 AM
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Every now and then someone adds a new twist to an old trick, opening a new perspective on it. I am thinking of for instance Ronnie Sandoval's tailboned fs inverts that look like sad plants:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.MlEIQs27tvp_XmhzA-D33QHaGl%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Or Mami Tezuka's fs smith grinds with the back knee and foot twisted to the side:
 
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/51fb0c31e4b07d5d9e44a6b7/1632499345560-0FM0TKTVW7KTWFQUSZEE/Screen+Shot+2021-09-24+at+9.01.54+AM.png?format=750w)

Or Jimmie Wilkins' not only taking vert ollies to new heights (head-high ollie 540ffs), but doing bs ollies with the knee (almost) touching the grip:

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-q8dM4aGBnfoHazGAoJS3QHaEV%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Anyone can think of others to add something new and stylish to an old trick?
[close]

1) Neil Blender
2) Too many to list
3) The Gonz

Literally none of this is new.
I was thinking the same thing

blender didn’t do frontside inverts really, let alone like that
...
(https://i.imgur.com/tHu9pcv.gif)
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: jorge on November 29, 2021, 10:49:43 AM
Dylan turned the impossible from a glorified pressure flip into a functional trick that can be done almost as high as an ollie over things/ controlled into other tricks.
Ed Templeton also reinvented it back in the early 90s and he even had a trick tip on the early 00s outright saying you can't really pop it its just good to do off bumps or hips etc

Kevin terpening Jake Johnson Ray Barbee made the step hop actually work as a functional thing to do.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Mean salto on November 29, 2021, 06:33:04 PM
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Dylan turned the impossible from a glorified pressure flip into a functional trick that can be done almost as high as an ollie over things/ controlled into other tricks.
Ed Templeton also reinvented it back in the early 90s and he even had a trick tip on the early 00s outright saying you can't really pop it its just good to do off bumps or hips etc

Kevin terpening Jake Johnson Ray Barbee made the step hop actually work as a functional thing to do.
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Love ray barbee but he is like the Templeton to the impossible. A vital step along the way that also reinvented it from those before him but I wouldn't cross out terps name. He does it over benches onto Manny's on tables etc.


Did satva Leung mean to do his switch frontside flips like that? Not just you can't really tell if it flipped but on some you can't even tell if it left his feet or not.(welcome to hell)
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: DannyDee on November 29, 2021, 06:48:50 PM
Herman and Carroll’s hardflips
I feel Carroll's contribution to this is often slept on. His one in the opening line in Modus is in the style of how Herman did them but was a couple of years before Herman was filmed/documented doing them (and Herman did them down bigger things which helped).
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: JohnnyBoy on November 29, 2021, 07:53:40 PM
Austyn and Kevin Romar both have really unique switch front 180s.

Brad Cromer does wallride ollie/flick out stuff that seemed…different

Anything Mike Carroll does on a miniramp. Nobody skates them like Carroll







Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: DannyDee on November 29, 2021, 08:43:57 PM
Austyn and Kevin Romar both have really unique switch front 180s.

Brad Cromer does wallride ollie/flick out stuff that seemed…different

Anything Mike Carroll does on a miniramp. Nobody skates them like Carroll
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Flailfish on December 03, 2021, 02:51:07 AM
Thefuck . Thats like saying a crooked cop is a melon.
Thefuck. Weak stalefish are just weakness. Not tweakness.
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: Molte on December 03, 2021, 05:00:16 AM
Maité Steenhoudt does this thing with her fs smith stalls that I didn't see anyone do before her.. I've got a feeling somebody must have been doing them in the 80's though.
http://youtu.be/VpFRepAzKJ0?t=304
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: KMineo on December 30, 2021, 03:21:41 PM
but no... roast beef (the poor man's stale fish) is the trailing hand (not the leading) but a sick f'n trick non-the-less - thanks! ... more reminiscent of a fat lady?

Antonio durao does a roast beef tailgrab in this clip “rump roast” good name and trick if you ask me. 7:08
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GmESm3ap-sA&t=198s
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on December 30, 2021, 03:41:53 PM
I feel like Jake Johnson changed wallrides a bit
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: KMineo on December 30, 2021, 04:31:02 PM
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a roast beef is technically a really poorly executed stalefish
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I thought stale fish was back hand behind back leg and roast beef was just back hand in the middle of both legs?

Yes, and that's the point. Same hand, same rail but you don't bother going around your back leg.  A stale fish is much harder.  Thrasher's Grosso interview has a pic of him cheating a stale fish. To his credit his execution was almost equal in style - anyone else would look a fool.  The caption "Sporting his controversial graphics and roast beefin' it in Houston" and thus roast beef was born.  See Van's "Grosso Forever: The Loveletters Series Finale" https://youtu.be/ABWcMRUWvVM?t=1588
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: cherry on December 30, 2021, 04:35:32 PM
I feel like Jake Johnson changed wallrides a bit

Agree. Can’t recall any double set wall ride hammers pre his mindfield part. 
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: roba on December 31, 2021, 02:43:28 AM
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I feel like Jake Johnson changed wallrides a bit
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Agree. Can’t recall any double set wall ride hammers pre his mindfield part.

you don't remember ragdoll's infamous double set wallride from the classic 2004 pig wood flick "slaughterhouse"?
Title: Re: Reinvented tricks?
Post by: cherry on December 31, 2021, 04:37:52 AM
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I feel like Jake Johnson changed wallrides a bit
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Agree. Can’t recall any double set wall ride hammers pre his mindfield part.
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you don't remember ragdoll's infamous double set wallride from the classic 2004 pig wood flick "slaughterhouse"?

Fuck!!! I should really brush up on my ragdoll too as I hear he is moving to my neighborhood this spring lol