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Or what’s the difference between them?
I want to try to stick to one shape so I don’t have to get used to other shapes all the time when getting a new deck
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They are all pretty square. Quasi tend to be way mellower in my experience. Much flatter
boards currently on PS wood. Rumoured to be moving to BBS perhaps. Quasi boards sometimes have a fair bit of taper too.
FA/Hockey have much steeper kicks, huge noses and are really square with exception of a new (8.44?) more regular popsicle. BBS wood.
BBS pressed AWS/Habitat are nice and full like however not as aggressively blunt as FA, and not as steep. Really nice compromise I have found.
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My buddy who loves FA swears that some Skate Warehouse blanks have a nearly identical shape. Clutch wood rather than BBS, though.
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wknd runs a similar shape also PSS
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1014/3147/products/BADFISH-TG_2048x2048.jpg?v=1639768777
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The BBS Quasi I have is super similar to a BBS FA just with a longer WB.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113235.0
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My buddy who loves FA swears that some Skate Warehouse blanks have a nearly identical shape. Clutch wood rather than BBS, though.
O shape clutch wood are very very similar to FA.
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My buddy who loves FA swears that some Skate Warehouse blanks have a nearly identical shape. Clutch wood rather than BBS, though.
Never rode an FA board but I can confirm that those blank natural SW boards were really blunt and had a big shovel of a nose. They were super thin though and razored fast, unlike FA I assume. But for $20-30, it's expected. This was in 2020 if that matters
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They are all pretty square. Quasi tend to be way mellower in my experience. Much flatter
boards currently on PS wood. Rumoured to be moving to BBS perhaps. Quasi boards sometimes have a fair bit of taper too.
FA/Hockey have much steeper kicks, huge noses and are really square with exception of a new (8.44?) more regular popsicle. BBS wood.
BBS pressed AWS/Habitat are nice and full like however not as aggressively blunt as FA, and not as steep. Really nice compromise I have found.
Bang on. I'll add, a few AWS decks I've had in the last couple years while not as steep as an FA/Hockey, had some seriously deep concave.
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They are all pretty square. Quasi tend to be way mellower in my experience. Much flatter
boards currently on PS wood. Rumoured to be moving to BBS perhaps. Quasi boards sometimes have a fair bit of taper too.
FA/Hockey have much steeper kicks, huge noses and are really square with exception of a new (8.44?) more regular popsicle. BBS wood.
BBS pressed AWS/Habitat are nice and full like however not as aggressively blunt as FA, and not as steep. Really nice compromise I have found.
Yep. They're also doing an 8.38" with a more standard shape. Currently skating it and it's great https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/boards/products/caleb-debut-black (https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/boards/products/caleb-debut-black)
I primarily skate the Quasi 8.38" shape and it's similar. very mellow.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=113235.0
Squarish shaped decks thread!!!
Not sure how I forgot about that thread, but I have added it into the new Woodshop links now.
Thanks for the reminder.
As for comparisons or differences, these were the main things to note, all on 8.5 decks as that is what I have here:
FA / Hockey on BBS are shorter overall, proportionate nose and tails, shorter wheelbases, a bit steeper kicks too.
WIDTH
8.5
LENGTH
31.91
WHEEL BASE
14.25
AWS / Habitat on BBS are longer overall, so with shorter wheelbases, the nose and tail are significantly longer than other boards, overall more medium kicks on the boards I have had, definitely not steep, but not mellow either.
WIDTH
8.5
LENGTH
32.25
WHEEL BASE
14.25
Quasi I haven't really compared a whole lot, but being on PS Stix the concave and angle of the kicks is often a bit more mellow (but not always) but the dimensions still fall fairly in the middle of the other two, some boards being different / longer that I have seen, others shorter. Note PS Stix measure with the concave, so they will be shorter when compared to BBS or other woodshops.
WIDTH
8.5
LENGTH
32.125 * PS Stix boards are shorter, so maybe more like 31.95 to 32.0
WHEEL BASE
14.25
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Or what’s the difference between them?
I want to try to stick to one shape so I don’t have to get used to other shapes all the time when getting a new deck
I forgot to add, be aware of the other Quasi shapes, like this one:
QUASI - MOON CHILD 8.5" SKATEBOARD DECK
WIDTH
8.5
LENGTH
33.0
WHEEL BASE
14.5
I know shapes and sizes might be a bit more uniform in smaller sizes, eg 8.25 or even 8.0 but it is easy enough to pull out info for whatever size you want too.
Any particular size you prefer or what do you usually ride?
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every quasi i rode that was listed @32.125 was actually 31.7 or so
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every quasi i rode that was listed @32.125 was actually 31.7 or so
Every proto I've ever ridden listed as 32.125 and was around 31.7ish as well. That's a massive discrepancy. They clearly measure with the concave.
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Thanks guys!
Ok; would you say it make sense to stick to really one brand and get comfortable with it?
I wonder if it’s harder to always get used to other shapes / steepnesses for stuff like manuals for example
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Thanks guys!
Ok; would you say it make sense to stick to really one brand and get comfortable with it?
I wonder if it’s harder to always get used to other shapes / steepnesses for stuff like manuals for example
Me in shop guy mode now:
What size board do you usually ride?
How long does a board last for you?
Do you have a budget, or can you afford the higher priced boards whenever you want?
Not to be nosey but they are all questions that would give some consideration to which would be best.
If it comes down to a size that is not as common, or is harder to get as everyone wants them, or more expensive and sometimes out of your budget, I would be thinking of whatever is easiest to get hold of in the right price range.
I know a lot of people who bought something, loved it but then found it painful to get more of them, especially if it was somewhat of a limited run, or only came out a couple of times a year.
In saying that, I have found something that I know is reasonably priced (also often on sale for that size / shape) so regardless of graphic, I can buy lots and always have the same board to ride over and over again, even with the slight differences that you would get from BBS (four to a press, some steeper and some more mellow) as per others who are in a similar situation too, but buy more when they can get their hands on them.
The graphic is often the least of my worries, but for some, if the graphic is not something they like, then they can leave themselves short for that run of boards too.
All thoughts and questions that might put a bit of madness in to your skateboarding, but also relevant to the initial question as well.
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Thanks guys!
Ok; would you say it make sense to stick to really one brand and get comfortable with it?
I wonder if it’s harder to always get used to other shapes / steepnesses for stuff like manuals for example
Sticking with one shape (and gear) that works for you is the best thing you can do; it takes shit out of the equation. Look at the pros, same shit every time no getting used to this turn, that concave, that shape, that length, etc...just setup and go.
Makes you wonder what most of us keep trying shit...looking for that holy grail I guess?
Find a deck that is constantly made/in rotation for seasonal drops tho.
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AWS/Habitat shapes are good, but the caveat that I have is that the tails are longer than Hockey or Quasi. That can throw some stuff off if you aren't ready for it.
Quasi are the most mellow of the bunch, with a very chill tail.
AWS tends to run about 32.25 whereas the Quasi/Hockey shapes are about 31.something. Maybe 32.
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Its funny i’m on a 8.25 FA Louie and love the blunt/square nose shape, but hate the short tail. Going to be trying a 8.5 AWS next… we all have our preferences…
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I‘m getting an AWS next. Maybe I’ll stick to AWS for a while then just to not switch up shapes anymore.
Habitat is the same shape? Any other brands with the exact same shape ?
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I am pretty confident WKND uses the same shape as Habitat
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
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My buddy who loves FA swears that some Skate Warehouse blanks have a nearly identical shape. Clutch wood rather than BBS, though.
Clutch O shape is basically a hybrid of the FA and quasi square/full 8.25 shapes. It's very similar. Pizza used it for a while and Flip uses it on some decks. I actually prefer it in some ways to the FA one.
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I am pretty confident WKND uses the same shape as Habitat
i don't think so
WKND run multiple shapes
Different factories
and read woodshop's posts
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
Thx again!
I honestly don’t know if I prefer long or short tails.
Last Decks I was skating were a supreme on old royals and a baker OG on thunder hollow light hi‘s and they all were alright to me.
I got some venture hollow v‘s now.
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Those are exactly the brands I’m interested in!
AWS/habitat really have such long kicks?
The question that’s the most interesting to me:
Do you have any issues when switching between those brands ? Do you have to get used to the new deck when it’s a different brand?
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My buddy who loves FA swears that some Skate Warehouse blanks have a nearly identical shape. Clutch wood rather than BBS, though.
Clutch O shape is basically a hybrid of the FA and quasi square/full 8.25 shapes. It's very similar. Pizza used it for a while and Flip uses it on some decks. I actually prefer it in some ways to the FA one.
It is an old shape guide, but here is the O shape, first on the left.
The pic should show all the details at full res too.
(https://i.ibb.co/3vRpQgF/Clutch-Woodshop-shapes-2012-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KDK2STs)
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Those are exactly the brands I’m interested in!
AWS/habitat really have such long kicks?
The question that’s the most interesting to me:
Do you have any issues when switching between those brands ? Do you have to get used to the new deck when it’s a different brand?
I should have added that AWS / Habitat boards, which actually have more like 14.2 or even 14.18 wheelbase are the longest there as well, being true 32.25 which is the same length as my other normal DLX boards with 14.5 wheelbase and my boards still have "normal" nose and tail lengths, so it might not seem like much, but it is quite a lot in a game of mm.
Skating different boards from those on that list, there are often different things you would get more used to, but I think the different woodshops are going to be the main issue - you get used to one concave, even between any brand on that woodshop and then go to a different concave from a different woodshop and the board will feel a bit weird, but it is not something that takes too long to get used to, if you are somewhat indifferent to overall board feels.
Being me, I am so terribly conditioned to a certain feel of board that almost anything else gives me a bad day, but that is not to say that I cannot get used to them and even grow to like them. It is just that I don't want to get used to them, as I know I can get more of the exact same thing that I am used to, play, repeat, play, repeat, etc.
Most of these were second hand to start with, so as I usually do, I will set them up and have a roll on them to see what they are like (and make sure they are still ok to ride) before taking them apart or keeping them setup for boards for people to skate and have a sample of what they are like.
For the new ones, I still stand on everything to see what they are like, in concave, kick angle and feel, then put them up, or if they are for someone specific, grip them and set them up for the person.
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Thx. I’ll try AWS or Habitat next, but still have a hockey deck here too. Maybe hockey after the AWS/ habitat and then let’s see what I like more.
Oh I didn’t set the hockey deck up yet because I heard some people struggle with them compared with high ventures. But I guess there’s enough people who combine those. Even that Beatrice Domond girl rides venture / fa
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Really it is down to what people get used to.
Coming from a more mellow or longer tail, almost anyone will get a little ghost pop if they don't bend their knees enough on boards with short steep kicks. I certainly did when skating a couple of steeper kick boards, when my usual board is the most mellow I can find.
Regardless of Indy, Thunder, Venture or other trucks too, once you are used to them, it is not a big deal.
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Really it is down to what people get used to.
Coming from a more mellow or longer tail, almost anyone will get a little ghost pop if they don't bend their knees enough on boards with short steep kicks. I certainly did when skating a couple of steeper kick boards, when my usual board is the most mellow I can find.
Regardless of Indy, Thunder, Venture or other trucks too, once you are used to them, it is not a big deal.
I bet you are right. I’m jumping from one shape to another since I started skating again. Magenta 8“ 14“ deck right now. Alien after. Hockey after this. Then I’ll decide what I liked best.
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
Is there another brand that shares the exact shape of gx?
What are you riding I would love to know? Are you sticking to one brand and shape or are you switching it up all the time?
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
Is there another brand that shares the exact shape of gx?
What are you riding I would love to know? Are you sticking to one brand and shape or are you switching it up all the time?
What size or shape of GX1000 are you thinking of, as a lot of brands will have generic shapes for some boards and specific shapes for others, just like the WKND list.
I had a lot more I had added here, but thought it is not really relevant to this thread, so copied it all to the Woodshop thread instead, which you can see here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3753439#msg3753439
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
Is there another brand that shares the exact shape of gx?
What are you riding I would love to know? Are you sticking to one brand and shape or are you switching it up all the time?
What size or shape of GX1000 are you thinking of, as a lot of brands will have generic shapes for some boards and specific shapes for others, just like the WKND list.
I had a lot more I had added here, but thought it is not really relevant to this thread, so copied it all to the Woodshop thread instead, which you can see here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3753439#msg3753439
Cool, I will check it out later.
I gx has different shapes too?
I would try to stick to 8 or 8.1 with 14 or 14.1 wb with high ventures hollows
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
Is there another brand that shares the exact shape of gx?
What are you riding I would love to know? Are you sticking to one brand and shape or are you switching it up all the time?
What size or shape of GX1000 are you thinking of, as a lot of brands will have generic shapes for some boards and specific shapes for others, just like the WKND list.
I had a lot more I had added here, but thought it is not really relevant to this thread, so copied it all to the Woodshop thread instead, which you can see here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3753439#msg3753439
Cool, I will check it out later.
I gx has different shapes too?
I would try to stick to 8 or 8.1 with 14 or 14.1 wb with high ventures hollows
A quick look at a few places including their own site has these dimensions:
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/garden-bouquet-8
8" X 31.625" WB 14"
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/flower-copper-8-125
8.125" X 31.75" WB 14.125"
The shapes look pretty standard, but I am more used to seeing the 8.5 and up which always look more blunt in the kicks, but they are not at all as blunt as the FA or AWS boards.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/gx1000-deck-gx1000-8-375-pig-one-skateboard-deck-27988997701702_1200x1200_crop_center.jpg)
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From anther thread, same question, so here is the same answer.
I feel like those shapes that AWS and Habitat use are exclusive to them, as no one else seems to have that same shape going on right now. From one deck of the same size (8.5) they were the same, but I couldn't say for everything in their range, but I am assuming they are, given they are run from the same place and have the same listed dimensions on their websites.
The older boards in normal shapes were the same as DLX shapes and sizes (of which I still have some) but they haven't done those more normal shapes in a while and everything I have seen lately from both brands have been pretty much the same, medium long blunt or squared off kicks with short wheelbases on the BBS made boards.
Both do seem to be different on other wood from various places round the world, with different shapes too, so just be aware of that. They are BBS in USA and here in AU, but EU might have a mix as does South Americas and Asian areas, as per people's comments about it.
To add to that, PS Stix does WKND and Quasi so it is a different woodshop and those shapes are significantly different, with PS Stix boards having significantly shorter tails than the BBS boards for AWS and Habitat, just for starters.
If you like shorter tails, try WKND, Quasi or FA / Hockey but if you prefer longer tails, then AWS and Habitat will work better for you.
Is there another brand that shares the exact shape of gx?
What are you riding I would love to know? Are you sticking to one brand and shape or are you switching it up all the time?
What size or shape of GX1000 are you thinking of, as a lot of brands will have generic shapes for some boards and specific shapes for others, just like the WKND list.
I had a lot more I had added here, but thought it is not really relevant to this thread, so copied it all to the Woodshop thread instead, which you can see here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3753439#msg3753439
Cool, I will check it out later.
I gx has different shapes too?
I would try to stick to 8 or 8.1 with 14 or 14.1 wb with high ventures hollows
A quick look at a few places including their own site has these dimensions:
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/garden-bouquet-8
8" X 31.625" WB 14"
https://gx1000.com/collections/products/products/flower-copper-8-125
8.125" X 31.75" WB 14.125"
The shapes look pretty standard, but I am more used to seeing the 8.5 and up which always look more blunt in the kicks, but they are not at all as blunt as the FA or AWS boards.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0020/1628/0646/products/gx1000-deck-gx1000-8-375-pig-one-skateboard-deck-27988997701702_1200x1200_crop_center.jpg)
Thx a lot!
And damn. It’s really not easy 😄
Maybe full shape should not be that important as it seems impossible to find what I want then.
Now somebody says short tail is not optimal neither for venture highs and it’s getting even more restricted. And I think gx have pretty short tails.
Edit: some gx habe 6.3 and some 6.5 tails.
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I liked Venture Hi with 6.5-6.675 tails. I found WB is what doomed them for me sometimes. Just made it hard to scoop and swing around.
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I should have added that AWS / Habitat boards, which actually have more like 14.2 or even 14.18 wheelbase are the longest there as well, being true 32.25 which is the same length as my other normal DLX boards...
This is going to make me try one out soon... I got so use to the Baker B2 but I'm being pissy about their prices and selection right now.
I went back to my FA and I truly miss the 32.25 length.
If the AWS is a combination of both (FA & the B2) that would be amazing.
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I liked Venture Hi with 6.5-6.675 tails. I found WB is what doomed them for me sometimes. Just made it hard to scoop and swing around.
So what wb- tail length ratio is best to you?
Anybody knows more about theories deck shapes?
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Hmm, never really thought of it, but I had and liked them on Quasi 8.25 with 14.25 and a Carpet 8.25 with a 14.25 and 6.625 tail.
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Hmm, never really thought of it, but I had and liked them on Quasi 8.25 with 14.25 and a Carpet 8.25 with a 14.25 and 6.625 tail.
Thanks. So another one with no issues on them with 14.25 wheelbase.
I’ll just test it out I guess. So many people that don’t skate them with 14“ wb. Can’t be too bad
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Really it is down to what people get used to.
Coming from a more mellow or longer tail, almost anyone will get a little ghost pop if they don't bend their knees enough on boards with short steep kicks. I certainly did when skating a couple of steeper kick boards, when my usual board is the most mellow I can find.
Regardless of Indy, Thunder, Venture or other trucks too, once you are used to them, it is not a big deal.
I bet you are right. I’m jumping from one shape to another since I started skating again. Magenta 8“ 14“ deck right now. Alien after. Hockey after this. Then I’ll decide what I liked best.
Are Magenta 8" usually 14" WB? I've seen them listed as 14.25" at certain shops online but if they're indeed 14", I'll need to try one out!
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Really it is down to what people get used to.
Coming from a more mellow or longer tail, almost anyone will get a little ghost pop if they don't bend their knees enough on boards with short steep kicks. I certainly did when skating a couple of steeper kick boards, when my usual board is the most mellow I can find.
Regardless of Indy, Thunder, Venture or other trucks too, once you are used to them, it is not a big deal.
I bet you are right. I’m jumping from one shape to another since I started skating again. Magenta 8“ 14“ deck right now. Alien after. Hockey after this. Then I’ll decide what I liked best.
Are Magenta 8" usually 14" WB? I've seen them listed as 14.25" at certain shops online but if they're indeed 14", I'll need to try one out!
I think absolutely most of their 8“ are 14“ in wb
Just checked some and all habe 14“ wb and 31.5 length.
Unfortunately I have no idea how long the tail is
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Hmm, never really thought of it, but I had and liked them on Quasi 8.25 with 14.25 and a Carpet 8.25 with a 14.25 and 6.625 tail.
Thanks. So another one with no issues on them with 14.25 wheelbase.
I’ll just test it out I guess. So many people that don’t skate them with 14“ wb. Can’t be too bad
I'm skating Venture highs on a Baker 8.0 mellow concave (14.25 WB) right now and it works for me. Previous decks were TKF 8.0 (14.25 WB) and 2 Bakers (same shape as current). Of the two brands, I like the TKF shape more as the tail is slightly longer and more full than the short, tapered tail on the Baker. I definitely think I would benefit more if I was on a 14 WB as 360 flips and 180's seem way easier in my experience, but 14.25 WB is way more readily available and is not a huge deal breaker.
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See for me when stuff gets easier, it can also get sketchier at speed
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I liked Venture Hi with 6.5-6.675 tails. I found WB is what doomed them for me sometimes. Just made it hard to scoop and swing around.
So what wb- tail length ratio is best to you?
Anybody knows more about theories deck shapes?
Theories and Hopps were BBS, then went with Clutch during pandemic times and the latest drops are all now back on BBS wood, so it is a mixed bag.
The shapes are generic popsicles, the 8" having a 14" wb from boards I looked up but could be either wood still.
One was definitely still Clutch with the number and letter stamp in the front bolts area, clearance on SW.
The Killing Floor, Carpet and most other brands on BBS are for the most part also the same popsicle shapes, fairly generic sizes and shapes too, from what I have seen, which to me is good.
I do tend to look more at the bigger (8.38 / 8.5) boards rather than the smaller ones, but even normal pics still seem like the usual popsicles in smaller boards too.
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Just rereading this. Interesting that quasi and gx decks are still different in shape.
I checked both websites and their 8.125s have the same length and wb. So you think just the steepness of the kicks is different ?
Aws/habitat only have a 14“ wb with their 8.125 Decks. 8.0 or 8.25 have 14.25. strange to me, but good to know.
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I'm not sure this has been brought up but my understanding is that the GX board brand is being distributed out of Quasi so I would imagine it would follow that the shapes are identical. No idea how the boards are pressed over there at PS Stix so I don't know about things like variations in concave due to place in the stack vs GX riders just liking and getting steeper molds though. Every Quasi I have seen has been a mellow fellow.
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Just rereading this. Interesting that quasi and gx decks are still different in shape.
I checked both websites and their 8.125s have the same length and wb. So you think just the steepness of the kicks is different ?
Aws/habitat only have a 14“ wb with their 8.125 Decks. 8.0 or 8.25 have 14.25. strange to me, but good to know.
Honestly I don't know that much about Quasi and GX1000 or really follow PS Stix as much as other woodshops, but I could guess in much the same way that others do their boards, FA prefers steeper, Baker has the mellow mold, both out of BBS (and Baker B2 are steeper concaves) so it stands to reason that if a certain company wants more mellow boards and another certain company wants steeper, that could easily be done, all through the same woodshop.
@jakeumms That is interesting to know as well - makes sense when doing things all yourself can be made a whole lot easier by getting in with an established brand, with their distribution lines and all that.
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Just rereading this. Interesting that quasi and gx decks are still different in shape.
I checked both websites and their 8.125s have the same length and wb. So you think just the steepness of the kicks is different ?
Aws/habitat only have a 14“ wb with their 8.125 Decks. 8.0 or 8.25 have 14.25. strange to me, but good to know.
Honestly I don't know that much about Quasi and GX1000 or really follow PS Stix as much as other woodshops, but I could guess in much the same way that others do their boards, FA prefers steeper, Baker has the mellow mold, both out of BBS (and Baker B2 are steeper concaves) so it stands to reason that if a certain company wants more mellow boards and another certain company wants steeper, that could easily be done, all through the same woodshop.
@jakeumms That is interesting to know as well - makes sense when doing things all yourself can be made a whole lot easier by getting in with an established brand, with their distribution lines and all that.
Sorry for another question, but do you know how long the AWS/ habitat tails of the 8.125 decks are? I guess they are not as long as 8.25 + tails.
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Just rereading this. Interesting that quasi and gx decks are still different in shape.
I checked both websites and their 8.125s have the same length and wb. So you think just the steepness of the kicks is different ?
Aws/habitat only have a 14“ wb with their 8.125 Decks. 8.0 or 8.25 have 14.25. strange to me, but good to know.
Honestly I don't know that much about Quasi and GX1000 or really follow PS Stix as much as other woodshops, but I could guess in much the same way that others do their boards, FA prefers steeper, Baker has the mellow mold, both out of BBS (and Baker B2 are steeper concaves) so it stands to reason that if a certain company wants more mellow boards and another certain company wants steeper, that could easily be done, all through the same woodshop.
@jakeumms That is interesting to know as well - makes sense when doing things all yourself can be made a whole lot easier by getting in with an established brand, with their distribution lines and all that.
Sorry for another question, but do you know how long the AWS/ habitat tails of the 8.125 decks are? I guess they are not as long as 8.25 + tails.
I mainly deal with boards around 8.38 and 8.5 so smaller boards are not something I usually have too many measurements on, besides the assorted decks I did have while working in a shop before covid 2020 issues.
Some shop sites like Tactics do have all measurements listed, so that is often the first stop, but as a lot of people say, don't take everything you see on there as 100% correct.
A couple of boards I know the dimensions of were correct, but then at least one other was a bit out, not by much though.
https://www.tactics.com/
I do think that a lot of boards of smaller sizes do have smaller tails, from that quick look around, so 6.5 is about the longest on those boards, some maybe a bit longer, but most are shorter coming in around 6.4 or so.
One board in 8.12 was the AH black eagle, 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb and 6.75 tail, which is why I rode that thing for a good ten years or more and had a lot of them. Just the length of the tail alone made it last an extra month and would usually last longer for anyone else I passed them on to after I was done with them as well.
Some people might not be a fan of that shape, but it was fairly normal for an 8 sized board, not at all stubby or blunt but not too tapered either.
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Did any of you ever skate a numbers board? Ideally a P.S stix one
If so was that similar to a fa/hockey board?
Maybe I should ask in the questions thread
I have a long winded reason why I'm curious
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I have a few boards that I compared today, all 8.5 which might be a bit big for some people, but it was the only size I had between all brands.
FA deck - steepest kicks, medium concave, fairly normal 14.25 wheelbase and normal tail (not as short as I thought it might be)
AWS and Habitat decks - about medium all round, normal 14.25 wheelbase but longer kicks than anything else
Quasi - PS Stix so a little different all up, steeper nose, not so steep tail but it was the shortest tail of all the boards
GX1000 - PS Stix again, steeper than the Quasi, but not as steep as the FA (well used / abused) so couldn't determine length of tail
In the PS Stix boards, Quasi, WKND, GX1000 are fairly similar in some shapes, so check these too if you want to work out some other blunt options for kicks like the FA boards.
Just rereading this. Interesting that quasi and gx decks are still different in shape.
I checked both websites and their 8.125s have the same length and wb. So you think just the steepness of the kicks is different ?
Aws/habitat only have a 14“ wb with their 8.125 Decks. 8.0 or 8.25 have 14.25. strange to me, but good to know.
Honestly I don't know that much about Quasi and GX1000 or really follow PS Stix as much as other woodshops, but I could guess in much the same way that others do their boards, FA prefers steeper, Baker has the mellow mold, both out of BBS (and Baker B2 are steeper concaves) so it stands to reason that if a certain company wants more mellow boards and another certain company wants steeper, that could easily be done, all through the same woodshop.
@jakeumms That is interesting to know as well - makes sense when doing things all yourself can be made a whole lot easier by getting in with an established brand, with their distribution lines and all that.
Sorry for another question, but do you know how long the AWS/ habitat tails of the 8.125 decks are? I guess they are not as long as 8.25 + tails.
I mainly deal with boards around 8.38 and 8.5 so smaller boards are not something I usually have too many measurements on, besides the assorted decks I did have while working in a shop before covid 2020 issues.
Some shop sites like Tactics do have all measurements listed, so that is often the first stop, but as a lot of people say, don't take everything you see on there as 100% correct.
A couple of boards I know the dimensions of were correct, but then at least one other was a bit out, not by much though.
https://www.tactics.com/
I do think that a lot of boards of smaller sizes do have smaller tails, from that quick look around, so 6.5 is about the longest on those boards, some maybe a bit longer, but most are shorter coming in around 6.4 or so.
One board in 8.12 was the AH black eagle, 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb and 6.75 tail, which is why I rode that thing for a good ten years or more and had a lot of them. Just the length of the tail alone made it last an extra month and would usually last longer for anyone else I passed them on to after I was done with them as well.
Some people might not be a fan of that shape, but it was fairly normal for an 8 sized board, not at all stubby or blunt but not too tapered either.
Thanks! And yeah, seems like tails getting longer work 8.25 decks.
I will just try different decks now and see how I like it.
Might try the real oval 8.125 too. Has a 14“ wb and a pretty long tail for that size. Looks interesting