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Title: New eTines rider
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on February 24, 2022, 01:00:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UQQflYMuU
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Post by: Filip on February 24, 2022, 01:01:59 AM
Andy Anderson
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Post by: Jud Nestorkins on February 24, 2022, 01:06:29 AM
Andy Anderson
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Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Filip on February 24, 2022, 01:26:08 AM
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Andy Anderson
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(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/95/708/9708095.gif)

I mean, he has been repping them for a while, and when they announced Jake Wooten a month ago, there wasn´t any teaser, was it? So its either Andy, or someone else that is a ´´bigger´´ pro, I guess. Or Gravette, I think he is wearing Etnies now, that would be tight, if he got fully on.
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Post by: HeapsCool on February 24, 2022, 02:08:29 AM
It’s Alex Olson
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Post by: Ghost Face on February 24, 2022, 02:09:13 AM
Looks like pool coping etc in that video image.


Would be amped if it's Gravette though.
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Post by: Prostate Exam on February 24, 2022, 02:20:06 AM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Those look like Minilogo trucks. I don't know anybody else than Andy Anderson riding them
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Post by: nitro89 on February 24, 2022, 02:35:18 AM
he (Andy Anderson) was saying in a recent NKA vid that he's been working on that yellow shoe he rocks a lot with the laces flap.
he was saying it was an old freestyle Etnies shoe he's bringing back iirc.
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Post by: lk130 on February 24, 2022, 04:03:06 AM
My first actual skateshoe was a Etnies, it was good quality too
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Post by: Jud Nestorkins on February 24, 2022, 06:19:38 AM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Those look like Minilogo trucks. I don't know anybody else than Andy Anderson riding them
I swear Xen and a few others on the boards have said ML trucks are surprisingly good.
My first actual skateshoe was a Etnies, it was good quality too
Mine too when I was like 14 (I'm 30 now.) All black suede cali cuts. They were the biggest shoe ever back then haha. Like 1/3 people at my school, both girls and guys, had them. I think in their heyday they were even bigger than DC courts.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: silhouette on February 24, 2022, 06:25:43 AM
This is actually pretty awesome. Think what you want about Andy or freestylers in general, he's a great representative of a niche kind of creativity in skateboarding and his general message as a skateboarder is a way healthier kind of inspiring to the average kid than a lot of the more contrived bullshit that's otherwise out there. Better see a whole new generation of skaters looking up to him and embracing a carefree approach than one more obsessing over wearing uniforms and how well they can backside tailslide their little skatepark box, really desperate for corporate validation. Etnies is also one of the least obnoxious brands out there right now. I can dig it.

My favorite skater is Jake Rupp, remember. Also I suck at back tails, remember.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Jud Nestorkins on February 24, 2022, 06:31:29 AM
a recent NKA vid

(https://i.imgflip.com/5jy4fl.gif)
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Post by: TwisT on February 24, 2022, 06:42:20 AM
Andy’s been Etnies flow for a while. Well deserved
He’s also on minilogo trucks and wheels. Which are great products, but put dude on bones official.

I’m not even a fan of the dude, but I do think his skating and influence is under valued.

If those are his color ways, then bleh.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Changes on February 24, 2022, 06:43:30 AM
Actually like those rainbow shoes, what are those?
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Post by: thebacker on February 24, 2022, 06:49:23 AM
This is actually pretty awesome. Think what you want about Andy or freestylers in general, he's a great representative of a niche kind of creativity in skateboarding and his general message as a skateboarder is a way healthier kind of inspiring to the average kid than a lot of the more contrived bullshit that's otherwise out there. Better see a whole new generation of skaters looking up to him and embracing a carefree approach than one more obsessing over wearing uniforms and how well they can backside tailslide their little skatepark box, really desperate for corporate validation. Etnies is also one of the least obnoxious brands out there right now. I can dig it.

My favorite skater is Jake Rupp, remember. Also I suck at back tails, remember.
what does his dick taste like? 
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Post by: silhouette on February 24, 2022, 06:52:37 AM
^ Oh so sadly predictable, fucking yawn Internet.
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Post by: sk8punk110 on February 24, 2022, 07:02:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UQQflYMuU
¨proudly¨
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Post by: urbneathme on February 24, 2022, 07:05:42 AM
shecks and && - the power couple we deserve
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Post by: sizzle_chest on February 24, 2022, 07:36:41 AM
Airwalk could do this better
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Post by: Mean salto on February 24, 2022, 07:40:19 AM
Mike Vs rolling over in his grave
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Post by: BoxStuffer on February 24, 2022, 07:45:18 AM
Is the yellow shoe like an Airwalk Vic?

&& and Etnics makes sense to me.
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Post by: lamfordie on February 24, 2022, 07:49:15 AM
Pretty cool to see Pierre doing some freestyle tricks
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Post by: shannamal on February 24, 2022, 07:58:36 AM
this makes me miss etnies skatepark
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Post by: lucascbn on February 24, 2022, 09:43:52 AM
shecks and && - the power couple we deserve

who's the chill one in that? ...
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Post by: WPG on February 24, 2022, 10:10:26 AM
Is the yellow shoe like an Airwalk Vic?

Yes Andy mentioned it on INstagram months ago. I’m kind surprised to see he’s only on now since he’s been riding a prototype pro model for months
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Post by: fernando the skater on February 24, 2022, 10:12:44 AM
Pretty cool to see Pierre doing some freestyle tricks

Didn't realise he was still pretty decent.

Andy's cool.
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Post by: Your Cousin Marvin on February 24, 2022, 10:13:42 AM
Boomers and the new skateboarder reddit crowd are going to love his pro model shoe the same way they buy up all his Powell Flight decks.
That crowd alone will get Etnies out of the poor house
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Post by: DESTROYER OF SENSES on February 24, 2022, 10:18:03 AM
couldn't make more sense. he belongs on Etnies for sure. happy for him. make that money.
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Post by: j....soy..... on February 24, 2022, 10:27:51 AM
Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Post by: Jowiththeflow on February 24, 2022, 10:38:55 AM
Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
Whoa! Straight to the dark and obscure thread!
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Post by: fernando the skater on February 24, 2022, 10:39:57 AM
Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..

Weren't there "issues" with his love life.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: somefucker on February 24, 2022, 10:45:22 AM
Pretty cool to see Pierre doing some freestyle tricks
Yo Pierre, you wanna primo out here?
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Síota on February 24, 2022, 10:47:07 AM
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Pretty cool to see Pierre doing some freestyle tricks
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Didn't realise he was still pretty decent.

Andy's cool.

Pierre has a "bro model" deck out at the moment on Into the Wild (Jérémie Daclin's little brand)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYOlXYiMHEd/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: GlenSuggittsflexfit on February 24, 2022, 10:50:11 AM
Shout out to this lil weirdo gettin his. Etnies should make a marana mid with tongue straps / no logo.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: breezer on February 24, 2022, 11:00:18 AM
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Those look like Minilogo trucks. I don't know anybody else than Andy Anderson riding them

I ride them......cheap, light, and they turn real good.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 24, 2022, 05:21:32 PM
Andy’s been Etnies flow for a while. Well deserved
He’s also on minilogo trucks and wheels. Which are great products, but put dude on bones official.

I’m not even a fan of the dude, but I do think his skating and influence is under valued.

If those are his color ways, then bleh.

I sort of disagree with this. I do like that there's room in skating for (almost) everyone, but parts of the industry are trying to make this dude happen and i'm pretty tired of it. There's a whole youtube subculture machine all cranking out andy anderson content, including people like the nine club and the berrics.

He's super creative, he obviously rips but his whole kit is wack and I just want him out of my face forever.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: braksabbath on February 25, 2022, 01:20:45 AM
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Andy’s been Etnies flow for a while. Well deserved
He’s also on minilogo trucks and wheels. Which are great products, but put dude on bones official.

I’m not even a fan of the dude, but I do think his skating and influence is under valued.

If those are his color ways, then bleh.
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I sort of disagree with this. I do like that there's room in skating for (almost) everyone, but parts of the industry are trying to make this dude happen and i'm pretty tired of it. There's a whole youtube subculture machine all cranking out andy anderson content, including people like the nine club and the berrics.

He's super creative, he obviously rips but his whole kit is wack and I just want him out of my face forever.
The freestyle overlord cabal has decided it so
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: trip35 on February 25, 2022, 06:31:39 AM
He’s also on minilogo trucks and wheels. Which are great products, but put dude on bones official.
He's on Bones already, often prototypes. Bones bearings and rails too. Powell boards (obviously) and Mini Logo trucks with a mix of Mini Logo and Bones bushings, so it's Skate One all the way. He's discussed his whole setup a heap of times such as here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMyXeQKexY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMyXeQKexY).

The vid's cool. The shoes, not so much. Maybe they'll grow on me.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on February 25, 2022, 07:11:43 AM
This guy skates like an 80s movie montage.
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Post by: ohyeabud on February 25, 2022, 07:18:56 AM
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Andy’s been Etnies flow for a while. Well deserved
He’s also on minilogo trucks and wheels. Which are great products, but put dude on bones official.

I’m not even a fan of the dude, but I do think his skating and influence is under valued.

If those are his color ways, then bleh.
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I sort of disagree with this. I do like that there's room in skating for (almost) everyone, but parts of the industry are trying to make this dude happen and i'm pretty tired of it. There's a whole youtube subculture machine all cranking out andy anderson content, including people like the nine club and the berrics.

He's super creative, he obviously rips but his whole kit is wack and I just want him out of my face forever.

That's the internet algorithms showing you what you secretly desire to see.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on February 25, 2022, 07:24:52 AM
My first actual skateshoe was a Etnies, it was good quality too

The outsole on the Marana Michelins lasts fucking forever.

Also OP did you have a stroke while typing the thread title
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Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on February 25, 2022, 07:36:57 AM
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My first actual skateshoe was a Etnies, it was good quality too
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The outsole on the Marana Michelins lasts fucking forever.

I had a pair of Dill's pro shoe and the flick was great. Currently have the Veers and it's not a bad shoe either. They can make good shoes. Unfortunately they went too far into the mallcore/extreme rabbit hole, the shoes largely look ugly, and there's no real brand identity or flavour to Etnies either. I get that it's a historic brand, but it's not appealing.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: lk130 on February 25, 2022, 09:26:58 AM
If you can get into skating for really cheap it's good, then just depends how u like ur shoes and like to spend. I personally got the Czar's in the days of catalogues and liked to see why shoes were priced that way. .
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 25, 2022, 10:40:23 AM
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Andy’s been Etnies flow for a while. Well deserved
He’s also on minilogo trucks and wheels. Which are great products, but put dude on bones official.

I’m not even a fan of the dude, but I do think his skating and influence is under valued.

If those are his color ways, then bleh.
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I sort of disagree with this. I do like that there's room in skating for (almost) everyone, but parts of the industry are trying to make this dude happen and i'm pretty tired of it. There's a whole youtube subculture machine all cranking out andy anderson content, including people like the nine club and the berrics.

He's super creative, he obviously rips but his whole kit is wack and I just want him out of my face forever.
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That's the internet algorithms showing you what you secretly desire to see.

You hate watch ONE Dan Corrigan video and the algorithm floods the zone with AnDy AnDe RsOn vids. Did this to myself...
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Post by: WavyDavy on February 25, 2022, 10:59:26 AM
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Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Weren't there "issues" with his love life.

what was the story with gunther? i remember an old roommate told me he was a pedo and was blacklisted by titus or something. does anyone know more?
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Post by: Lou Strux on February 25, 2022, 11:50:03 AM
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Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Weren't there "issues" with his love life.
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what was the story with gunther? i remember an old roommate told me he was a pedo and was blacklisted by titus or something. does anyone know more?
"Guenter Mokulys, the skateboard legend, has been a skateboarder for 36 years, specializes in freestyle / flatland skateboarding and has been a professional for 32 years. He is one of the most successful and best skateboarders worldwide."
from https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/ (https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/)

This website is another one of those special easter eggs from the internets, as far as rich content goes.
Please to enjoy.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 26, 2022, 12:13:37 AM
I'm just glad I got to see Pierre Andre do one of his hilariously fruity ollie one foots.

I also always forget he owns etnies.
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Post by: silhouette on February 26, 2022, 05:11:16 AM
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Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Weren't there "issues" with his love life.
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what was the story with gunther? i remember an old roommate told me he was a pedo and was blacklisted by titus or something. does anyone know more?
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"Guenter Mokulys, the skateboard legend, has been a skateboarder for 36 years, specializes in freestyle / flatland skateboarding and has been a professional for 32 years. He is one of the most successful and best skateboarders worldwide."
from https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/ (https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/)

This website is another one of those special easter eggs from the internets, as far as rich content goes.
Please to enjoy.

Thank you for sharing this @Lou Strux - this is great. I think my favorite is the Tricks Tips [sic] section where there actually are no tips and just more sequences of himself throughout the ages. Shout outs to Bob's Trick Tips if anyone remembers that amazing prehistorical website (because prehistory was before mankind invented social media, right?...). Skateboarding really drives all kinds of profiles, I genuinely fucking love it for that.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: breezer on February 26, 2022, 05:58:41 AM
wonder why @@ isn't on the Bones team? 
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Christmas Complete on February 26, 2022, 07:32:19 AM
wonder why @@ isn't on the Bones team?

(https://i.postimg.cc/PfZ55hSd/atatskate-small-bones.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: WavyDavy on February 26, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
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Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Weren't there "issues" with his love life.
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what was the story with gunther? i remember an old roommate told me he was a pedo and was blacklisted by titus or something. does anyone know more?
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"Guenter Mokulys, the skateboard legend, has been a skateboarder for 36 years, specializes in freestyle / flatland skateboarding and has been a professional for 32 years. He is one of the most successful and best skateboarders worldwide."
from https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/ (https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/)

This website is another one of those special easter eggs from the internets, as far as rich content goes.
Please to enjoy.

Remember seeing him in some wacky German tv show. Now i fell into a dark skaterscafe rabbit hole about freestyle skaters
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Post by: Bunk Moreland on February 26, 2022, 10:04:47 AM
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wonder why @@ isn't on the Bones team?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/PfZ55hSd/atatskate-small-bones.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I see you, and I appreciate you.
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Post by: Sativa Lung on February 27, 2022, 02:10:20 AM
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Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Weren't there "issues" with his love life.
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what was the story with gunther? i remember an old roommate told me he was a pedo and was blacklisted by titus or something. does anyone know more?
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"Guenter Mokulys, the skateboard legend, has been a skateboarder for 36 years, specializes in freestyle / flatland skateboarding and has been a professional for 32 years. He is one of the most successful and best skateboarders worldwide."
from https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/ (https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/)

This website is another one of those special easter eggs from the internets, as far as rich content goes.
Please to enjoy.
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Remember seeing him in some wacky German tv show. Now i fell into a dark skaterscafe rabbit hole about freestyle skaters


Dude holy shit I saw that "to tell the truth" one flipping channels one night! I think it was on one of the broadcast channels that came in on the antenna. That flipped a switch in my brain that hasn't been touched in like 15 years haha.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 27, 2022, 02:20:54 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaV4lcmFQ4I/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Those look like Minilogo trucks. I don't know anybody else than Andy Anderson riding them
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I ride them......cheap, light, and they turn real good.

Another ML truck fan checking in. I know they look dumb but they skate awesomely. They're one of the only low trucks with an axle over 8" I've skated and they're the best turning ones by far. They're responsive but not twitchy and they're stable as all hell. I don't love the grind, but not because it isn't functional or anything is wrong. It's just a preference thing.

They do look a better without the stupid embossed logo on the hanger but unfortunately 2 of my pairs are old ones that still have it . They're maybe the dorkiest looking truck I own now that I don't have navigators anymore.
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Post by: RoaryMcTwang on February 27, 2022, 04:07:51 AM
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Sucks Gunther Mokulys gets no love…..
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Weren't there "issues" with his love life.
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what was the story with gunther? i remember an old roommate told me he was a pedo and was blacklisted by titus or something. does anyone know more?
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"Guenter Mokulys, the skateboard legend, has been a skateboarder for 36 years, specializes in freestyle / flatland skateboarding and has been a professional for 32 years. He is one of the most successful and best skateboarders worldwide."
from https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/ (https://guentermokulys.de/en/home/)

This website is another one of those special easter eggs from the internets, as far as rich content goes.
Please to enjoy.

Gnarred for pitch-perfect word choice.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: CrappyChan on February 27, 2022, 06:40:13 AM
I don't know why I watched the video but i will say the axle stall to axle stall on the rail was pretty sick
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Post by: MexicanSpaniard on February 27, 2022, 07:05:59 AM
I didn't know that was Pierre, I thought it was somebody from Foundation
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Post by: manysnakes on February 27, 2022, 07:45:41 AM
It’s always so funny to see the nostalgic dinosaurs here bemoaning Andy Anderson. The kid has massive appeal, the best selling deck in the world (despite costing like $100), and he is an absolute ripper. But to the Boomer wanna-be Hellriders of Slap, since he wears a helmet and appeals to the wrong type of skateboarder (young people with their lives ahead of them, successful and well adjusted adults with jobs), he’s persona non grata.

Of course no one here could ever skate like him, and if he were actually shredding your local, you’d all stop what you were doing and watch him. And if he were branded differently but skated in a similar way (as is the case with Ben Koppl/rollersurfer), I suspect that the same people would claim to love him.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 27, 2022, 08:14:32 AM
It’s always so funny to see the nostalgic dinosaurs here bemoaning Andy Anderson. The kid has massive appeal, the best selling deck in the world (despite costing like $100), and he is an absolute ripper. But to the Boomer wanna-be Hellriders of Slap, since he wears a helmet and appeals to the wrong type of skateboarder (young people with their lives ahead of them, successful and well adjusted adults with jobs), he’s persona non grata.

Of course no one here could ever skate like him, and if he were actually shredding your local, you’d all stop what you were doing and watch him. And if he were branded differently but skated in a similar way (as is the case with Ben Koppl/rollersurfer), I suspect that the same people would claim to love him.

You’re sort of making a lot of people’s point. He’s being foisted on the industry as an *alternative* to everything those people think is wrong with skating, and I think that does rub people the wrong way.

Also, I have a much bigger issue with the wack ass full wrap shoes than I do the helmet…
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Post by: j....soy..... on February 27, 2022, 08:20:17 AM
I think it’s kinda understood that no one on here can skate as well as the said pros they are criticizing……

Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: manysnakes on February 27, 2022, 08:23:39 AM
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It’s always so funny to see the nostalgic dinosaurs here bemoaning Andy Anderson. The kid has massive appeal, the best selling deck in the world (despite costing like $100), and he is an absolute ripper. But to the Boomer wanna-be Hellriders of Slap, since he wears a helmet and appeals to the wrong type of skateboarder (young people with their lives ahead of them, successful and well adjusted adults with jobs), he’s persona non grata.

Of course no one here could ever skate like him, and if he were actually shredding your local, you’d all stop what you were doing and watch him. And if he were branded differently but skated in a similar way (as is the case with Ben Koppl/rollersurfer), I suspect that the same people would claim to love him.
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You’re sort of making a lot of people’s point. He’s being foisted on the industry as an *alternative* to everything those people think is wrong with skating, and I think that does rub people the wrong way.

Also, I have a much bigger issue with the wack ass full wrap shoes than I do the helmet…

Well then you’re tacitly admitting that you like what you like because you buy into a certain image that a brand presents, which is really something one should consider if they’re older than like 17.
Title: Re: New eTines rider
Post by: BartHarleyJarvis on February 27, 2022, 09:30:09 AM
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It’s always so funny to see the nostalgic dinosaurs here bemoaning Andy Anderson. The kid has massive appeal, the best selling deck in the world (despite costing like $100), and he is an absolute ripper. But to the Boomer wanna-be Hellriders of Slap, since he wears a helmet and appeals to the wrong type of skateboarder (young people with their lives ahead of them, successful and well adjusted adults with jobs), he’s persona non grata.

Of course no one here could ever skate like him, and if he were actually shredding your local, you’d all stop what you were doing and watch him. And if he were branded differently but skated in a similar way (as is the case with Ben Koppl/rollersurfer), I suspect that the same people would claim to love him.
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You’re sort of making a lot of people’s point. He’s being foisted on the industry as an *alternative* to everything those people think is wrong with skating, and I think that does rub people the wrong way.

Also, I have a much bigger issue with the wack ass full wrap shoes than I do the helmet…
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Well then you’re tacitly admitting that you like what you like because you buy into a certain image that a brand presents, which is really something one should consider if they’re older than like 17.

Sure. I support brands I like, I don’t support brands I don’t like. Brand image is a part of that. Do you make decisions differently?

Not being snarky either, just curious what point you’re trying to make.