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Lately when I skate I've noticed that immediately upon stepping on my board my feet feel really sore and like I'm coming of a 3 hour session. Thinking about trying some different insoles. For those who use aftermarket insoles, please share your experiences with them and recommend a particular model or brand if you can. Do you use FP? Remind? Dr. Scholls? Do you skate vulc or cupsole? Do you have a flat foot or a moderate arch? Are there any drawbacks to them?
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Medium/high arch. For the last year only skated Fp kingfoam elite. Noticed that my feet get less sore using them definately. Now on Remind cush impacts and they feel good also. I've only skate them few times so too early to do any reviews on them.
Dr scholls fucking suck, don't waste your money if you are looking for impact protection
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Get some Footprint Elite 7mm insoles. They help with any sort of impact, raises your feet a bit which make your shoe a lil more snug which I like and they last a very long time. Only downfall is that it makes your feet sweat a lot but they are game changers.
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I've tried a few different insoles and the most consistent success I have had is with the Remind Medic.
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Remind Destin work best for me but it ultimately comes down to arch type and what works for you, I had to try a bunch to find some that ticked all the boxes for me... Look at Remind and Footprint for starters in terms of brand, then shop by arch type.
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I’ve got some remind destin on the way, no idea on how it’ll workout tho.
I used to have a higher arch, and then I got old. Now my arches have sorta flattened. Whatever.
I’m always shook about the overall volume of the aftermarket insole, I don’t want to get too tall in the shoe, ankle twisting fears.
As an aside, I’m incapable of keeping the different companies differentiated in my head. Every time I look for some info it’s the first time.
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Couple of years ago I tried Etnies Marana and didn't liked them. They were too low cut around ankle for me but I did like insole that came with them.
Those insoles are around 7mm at the heel and 5mm at the toes and provide really good cushioning while not being too tall at the heel. They are dense and very durable so they can be reused in other shoes. If you skate Maranas or Joslins you can reuse insole from old pair in new shoes and save new insoles for later or for other pair of shoes.
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Couple of years ago I tried Etnies Marana and didn't liked them. They were too low cut around ankle for me but I did like insole that came with them.
Those insoles are around 7mm at the heel and 5mm at the toes and provide really good cushioning while not being too tall at the heel. They are dense and very durable so they can be reused in other shoes. If you skate Maranas or Joslins you can reuse insole from old pair in new shoes and save new insoles for later or for other pair of shoes.
I feel similar about the Tyshawn insoles, great for a stock insole.
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I definitely keep mine for a year or more, so they see several pairs of shoes. The Medics are durable but do end up stinking.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
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Couple of years ago I tried Etnies Marana and didn't liked them. They were too low cut around ankle for me but I did like insole that came with them.
Those insoles are around 7mm at the heel and 5mm at the toes and provide really good cushioning while not being too tall at the heel. They are dense and very durable so they can be reused in other shoes. If you skate Maranas or Joslins you can reuse insole from old pair in new shoes and save new insoles for later or for other pair of shoes.
I agree, the Maranas in general were some of the most well-made skate shoes I've ever had. I bought 2 pairs almost 6 months ago and I'm just now getting a hole through the bottom of the 2nd pair. Granted I don't skate nearly as much as some people here, but I try to lunch break sesh every day possible.
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FP insoles; just ordered a 3mm set today!
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FP insoles; just ordered a 3mm set today!
I know these are great, but the thought of supporting joey brezinski and paul hart makes me sick.
This thread is the first time I've seen people talk so highly of remind insoles, might check them out.
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Only downfall is that it makes your feet sweat a lot but they are game changers.
Put baby powder in your socks every morning, or whenever you put on fresh socks, my dude.
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I just got the 2nd cheapest FP, the "Gamechangers" and they're remarkably comfy. Considerable difference in arch support and how much less sore my feet are after using these for the past few days. I felt like I was able to push with a bit more "oomph" too, but that could just be a placebo type deal just from being hyped on them. I'm definitely going to be getting a pair of the nicer (more expensive) ones so I can have these to rotate out with lifestyle shoes and the better ones for skate shoes.
10/10 recommend.
this reply was paid for by FP Insoles
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I have some FP Gamechangers I got for my Jordans to skate in, but not a fan. I tried them in some other Vans, but the shoes feel more floppy and less structured due to the difference in height in the rear. I think a lot of shoes with huge insoles wouldn't work with them, but any thin insole shoe would. I wish I got the Kingfoam as I have flat feet and don't need the arch support.
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Remind Destin work best for me but it ultimately comes down to arch type and what works for you, I had to try a bunch to find some that ticked all the boxes for me... Look at Remind and Footprint for starters in terms of brand, then shop by arch type.
are the remind destin for cupsoles or vulcs? That’s what I can never figure out with remind…
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FP insoles; just ordered a 3mm set today!
I know these are great, but the thought of supporting joey brezinski and paul hart makes me sick.
This thread is the first time I've seen people talk so highly of remind insoles, might check them out.
Yeah, it's a tough call but the product is that good (the 6mm ones anyway); the 6mm push my heel up to much in some shoes so 3mm it is.
Remind, with the oven ready ones, if they were lower than 5.5mm I;d try them out but I know they won't work in my current fave NB.
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Lately when I skate I've noticed that immediately upon stepping on my board my feet feel really sore and like I'm coming of a 3 hour session. Thinking about trying some different insoles. For those who use aftermarket insoles, please share your experiences with them and recommend a particular model or brand if you can. Do you use FP? Remind? Dr. Scholls? Do you skate vulc or cupsole? Do you have a flat foot or a moderate arch? Are there any drawbacks to them?
I swear by these. If you’re familiar with adidas’ Boost cushioning, that’s essentially what these are, but in insole form.
The Standards are good for flatter arches, but I have a high arch and they’re comfortable for me, too. They have a thick heel cush.
https://www.hefe.com/products/starter-insoles (https://www.hefe.com/products/starter-insoles)
The Ultra Deluxe 2.0 is more contoured and cradles your heel bit more, probably best suited for high arches. Slightly thinner in the heel, but maybe a little more substantial padding in the forefoot. Can’t really tell, to be honest.
https://www.hefe.com/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles (https://www.hefe.com/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles)
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Lately when I skate I've noticed that immediately upon stepping on my board my feet feel really sore and like I'm coming of a 3 hour session. Thinking about trying some different insoles. For those who use aftermarket insoles, please share your experiences with them and recommend a particular model or brand if you can. Do you use FP? Remind? Dr. Scholls? Do you skate vulc or cupsole? Do you have a flat foot or a moderate arch? Are there any drawbacks to them?
I swear by these. If you’re familiar with adidas’ Boost cushioning, that’s essentially what these are, but in insole form.
The Standards are good for flatter arches, but I have a high arch and they’re comfortable for me, too. They have a thick heel cush.
https://www.hefe.com/products/starter-insoles (https://www.hefe.com/products/starter-insoles)
The Ultra Deluxe 2.0 is more contoured and cradles your heel bit more, probably best suited for high arches. Slightly thinner in the heel, but maybe a little more substantial padding in the forefoot. Can’t really tell, to be honest.
https://www.hefe.com/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles (https://www.hefe.com/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles)
They are very good. Absorb a lot of impact, and while you lose a little bit of boardfeel it still skates great.
I prefer these ones for skating since I cut off the arch support as I prefer skate insoles to be flat (unless it fits my arch perfectly, which it doesn't unless its an fp gamechanger)
https://www.hefe.com/collections/insole/products/original-insoles
The ultra deluxe 2.0 is probably a bit too thick to skate in, or may lift your feet up too high in the shoe and make things a little unstable.
One gripe I have is that the fabric on top seems to wear out pretty quickly if you skate in them. Doesn't affect things functionally though but does look kind of wack.
Definitely a very good option. Probably the best or at least one of the best if all your top priority is cushion.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green
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FP kingfoams or gamechangers, I’ve been running kingfoams in cupsoles for a couple years.
Put a pair of gamechangers I got send by mistake, into a set of old skools and I’ve skated them three sessions and walked back miles to my place and virtually no discomfort
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
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I was reading the reviews and it’s super confusing. Brad wrote a paragraph about them claiming they were thin, but the other 2 reviewers said they were thick but compared them to shoes that have other insoles. They look to be about 7mm in the heel, close to a FP but way less than Popcush.
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Gamechangers are great if you enjoy rolling your ankle.
I binned my pair after 3 ankle rolls in 12 months... they sit your foot crazy high in the shoe. Fine for chilling but no way i'd skate them again.
Buyer beware on those, and deffo be conscious of shoe choice with them.
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Appreciate the feedback so far. I just turned 30 a month ago and I skate primarily Emerica/NB# cupsoles and have a medium arch. I think the problem stems from skating a pair Vans sk8 lows after a 4 year run of cup soles. The Pop-cush insoles combo from my recent experience did nothing as far as impact or arch support and I'm not jumping down anything above 4 ft in height anymore. Pop - cush IMO just look "tech" cosmetically on the outside but I think they're just crap foam. I can overcome a thicker insole but can anyone speak on whether or not the model they have is thicker specifically around the arch?
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
Do these come standard in the G6 line? Are they what comes with the KSL's cause I was about to look for a white pair for summer.
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Likely no one will agree with this take, but once you get a certain age you can't solve stuff like this with just shoes. Chances are if your feet hurt or you are prone to ankle rolling, you need to do some sort of prehab or rehab to actually strengthen your ankles.
About 1 year ago I fell while rock climbing and ruptured all the ligaments in my right ankle. It was constantly sore for months and despite doing adequate rehab, it would still tweak. In November I started actually doing some ankle strengthening movements (largely from the Kneesovertoesguy youtube) and the difference is night and day. I can actually skate shoes that I would have considered tippy in the past and I never get sore ankles, calves, or knees unless I do something super weird. Insoles are nice, but essentially a crutch for the rest of the skeletal chain.
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I'm vegan so I find banana and orange peels work really well and they smell great....
I also have a pair of FP game changers in my sk8 hi they are OK but hard, and I wouldn't get them again, Dr Scholls wernt very good either and pushed my feet up in the shoe and moved around aswell.
I honestly reckon if you get a good shoe, that is good for YOUR feet and you don't need orthotic insoles, don't waste your money, but unicorn shoes are hard to find...
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Likely no one will agree with this take, but once you get a certain age you can't solve stuff like this with just shoes. Chances are if your feet hurt or you are prone to ankle rolling, you need to do some sort of prehab or rehab to actually strengthen your ankles.
About 1 year ago I fell while rock climbing and ruptured all the ligaments in my right ankle. It was constantly sore for months and despite doing adequate rehab, it would still tweak. In November I started actually doing some ankle strengthening movements (largely from the Kneesovertoesguy youtube) and the difference is night and day. I can actually skate shoes that I would have considered tippy in the past and I never get sore ankles, calves, or knees unless I do something super weird. Insoles are nice, but essentially a crutch for the rest of the skeletal chain.
Oh no, I VERY much agree with this take. I could probably ‘solve’ the genesis of 90% of my gear madness, by trying to recomposition my body. When I was ‘decent’, I probably weighed 20#s less (20 years younger as well). Now I’m trying all types of setups and bullshit because I’m trash, and although I don’t ‘look’ fat, I’m not right physically. I complain about my weight, which is really a poor metric for health, mainly because my lower body starts to hurt more, and I become less motivated to do physical shit, which in turn fucks with the mentals. I notice lower leg, and foot pain, quickly. It keeps me off of board more than anything else. Diet would solve it. But nooooo. Here I am bothering strangers on the net with my rants/questions about ‘which wb will make me young’.
So yes, it’s pretty funny how I can lose as little as 5#s and all of a sudden enjoy skating in vulcs again.
I’ll check knees over toes, he seemed a bit much, but you gotta be I guess.
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It’s not even about weight, just having some tendon and ligament strength as well as basic muscular strength around the joint. A lot of injuries happen from having too life strength to prevent the joint moving beyond the ROM.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
I haven't had the zoom or FP's myself but personally the G6 Foam don't feel too high to me all. I'd say it's a better version of Vans Pop Cush or Ultracush with being able to have a more padded insole but have solid board feel.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Ah so similar height to vans insoles?
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Ah so similar height to vans insoles?
I apologize in advance for my poor photo comparisons but as you can see the heel portion of our G6 is just slightly lower than the Vans Ultracush but the major thing is that the front of ours is a tad thicker than Vans so compared to theirs, ours is more "flat" which means your heel isn't as raised up in the back which hopefully answers your original question.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Ah so similar height to vans insoles?
(https://i.imgur.com/LKUrtUS.jpg)
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perfect thank you so much!
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Likely no one will agree with this take, but once you get a certain age you can't solve stuff like this with just shoes. Chances are if your feet hurt or you are prone to ankle rolling, you need to do some sort of prehab or rehab to actually strengthen your ankles.
About 1 year ago I fell while rock climbing and ruptured all the ligaments in my right ankle. It was constantly sore for months and despite doing adequate rehab, it would still tweak. In November I started actually doing some ankle strengthening movements (largely from the Kneesovertoesguy youtube) and the difference is night and day. I can actually skate shoes that I would have considered tippy in the past and I never get sore ankles, calves, or knees unless I do something super weird. Insoles are nice, but essentially a crutch for the rest of the skeletal chain.
Oh no, I VERY much agree with this take. I could probably ‘solve’ the genesis of 90% of my gear madness, by trying to recomposition my body. When I was ‘decent’, I probably weighed 20#s less (20 years younger as well). Now I’m trying all types of setups and bullshit because I’m trash, and although I don’t ‘look’ fat, I’m not right physically. I complain about my weight, which is really a poor metric for health, mainly because my lower body starts to hurt more, and I become less motivated to do physical shit, which in turn fucks with the mentals. I notice lower leg, and foot pain, quickly. It keeps me off of board more than anything else. Diet would solve it. But nooooo. Here I am bothering strangers on the net with my rants/questions about ‘which wb will make me young’.
So yes, it’s pretty funny how I can lose as little as 5#s and all of a sudden enjoy skating in vulcs again.
I’ll check knees over toes, he seemed a bit much, but you gotta be I guess.
I’ve been using some of his exercises as well, but some of his stuff also seems so fanatical and erroneous that I was not surprised when I heard he’s a scientologist.
Developing the strength or structural integrity in the feet and legs definitely is the cure for these issues, but as for the symptoms I can say for me I get back pain / stiffness in my lower back when I skate Vans (the Pro Classics or whatever they were) within 30 minutes, and mostly none with NB# 1010s and SB Bruin Reacts, so I’m sticking with cupsoles for now.
Also working with a physical therapist currently and would love to skate some wide-fitting vulcs like Sk8 His again in future, but I can manage with cups as well
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Likely no one will agree with this take, but once you get a certain age you can't solve stuff like this with just shoes. Chances are if your feet hurt or you are prone to ankle rolling, you need to do some sort of prehab or rehab to actually strengthen your ankles.
About 1 year ago I fell while rock climbing and ruptured all the ligaments in my right ankle. It was constantly sore for months and despite doing adequate rehab, it would still tweak. In November I started actually doing some ankle strengthening movements (largely from the Kneesovertoesguy youtube) and the difference is night and day. I can actually skate shoes that I would have considered tippy in the past and I never get sore ankles, calves, or knees unless I do something super weird. Insoles are nice, but essentially a crutch for the rest of the skeletal chain.
Oh no, I VERY much agree with this take. I could probably ‘solve’ the genesis of 90% of my gear madness, by trying to recomposition my body. When I was ‘decent’, I probably weighed 20#s less (20 years younger as well). Now I’m trying all types of setups and bullshit because I’m trash, and although I don’t ‘look’ fat, I’m not right physically. I complain about my weight, which is really a poor metric for health, mainly because my lower body starts to hurt more, and I become less motivated to do physical shit, which in turn fucks with the mentals. I notice lower leg, and foot pain, quickly. It keeps me off of board more than anything else. Diet would solve it. But nooooo. Here I am bothering strangers on the net with my rants/questions about ‘which wb will make me young’.
So yes, it’s pretty funny how I can lose as little as 5#s and all of a sudden enjoy skating in vulcs again.
I’ll check knees over toes, he seemed a bit much, but you gotta be I guess.
I’ve been using some of his exercises as well, but some of his stuff also seems so fanatical and erroneous that I was not surprised when I heard he’s a scientologist.
Developing the strength or structural integrity in the feet and legs definitely is the cure for these issues, but as for the symptoms I can say for me I get back pain / stiffness in my lower back when I skate Vans (the Pro Classics or whatever they were) within 30 minutes, and mostly none with NB# 1010s and SB Bruin Reacts, so I’m sticking with cupsoles for now.
Also working with a physical therapist currently and would love to skate some wide-fitting vulcs like Sk8 His again in future, but I can manage with cups as well
Oh shit he’s a Scientologist? We’ll if anyone wants the paid routine with YouTube links hit me up. Fuck those turkeys. The basic workout is really good though so was happy to pay.
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Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.
I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.
Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.
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Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.
I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.
Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.
I read it on Slap of course, where else?
Then I checked out this reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Kneesovertoes/comments/ncfo4d/ben_patrick_is_a_scientologist/
Not concrete, plausible perhaps
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Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.
I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.
Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.
Then I checked out this reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Kneesovertoes/comments/ncfo4d/ben_patrick_is_a_scientologist/
Not concrete, plausible perhaps
Ok, maybe more than just plausible
https://www.freedommag.org/magazine/florida/201910-clearwater-citizen/ben-patrick.html
https://www.scientology.org/videos/meet-a-scientologist/region/north-america/~mass-ben-patrik.html
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Ya that’s the info I found and his name isn’t super unique either. Who knows honestly, what I care about is that my joints feel pain free. It’s not like I don’t watch Tom Cruise movies.
I am really disliking the Gamechangers in my Jordan 1’s- what’s the closest insole to stock? Kingfoam?
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Ya that’s the info I found and his name isn’t super unique either. Who knows honestly, what I care about is that my joints feel pain free. It’s not like I don’t watch Tom Cruise movies.
I am really disliking the Gamechangers in my Jordan 1’s-what’s the closest insole to stock? Kingfoam?
Yeah but in those links I posted you can see his face as well, which is a bit more unique, and he is wearing ATG gear, so it’s pretty clear he is indeed willingly endorsing Scientology.
Whether or not that has anything to do with his training philosophy can then be decided by each individual themselves. I found his advice on knees and ankles interesting and his advice on diet and vaccines no so much, but that’s the deal with everything in this space, you can pick and choose what works for you.
(https://i.ibb.co/zRkRCDc/B553-CF3-F-8235-4063-BC8-E-8-A9-C8300-C2-B4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zRkRCDc)
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Gamechangers are great if you enjoy rolling your ankle.
I binned my pair after 3 ankle rolls in 12 months... they sit your foot crazy high in the shoe. Fine for chilling but no way i'd skate them again.
Buyer beware on those, and deffo be conscious of shoe choice with them.
I had the exactly same happen to me but with fp orthotics insoles. Never again. Yes, they are comfy but your foot sits just too high in the shoe.
I really like the Lakai XLK insoles. When I was younger and didn't had money, I put a small layer of cardboard under my insole once and that was fine too.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?
Gamechangers are great if you enjoy rolling your ankle.
I binned my pair after 3 ankle rolls in 12 months... they sit your foot crazy high in the shoe. Fine for chilling but no way i'd skate them again.
Buyer beware on those, and deffo be conscious of shoe choice with them.
That's partially why I switched to the 3mm ones.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?
Haha you happened to check these today of all days as today is our April fools day sale (buy an accessory and get a free pair of shoes).
To answer your question, the Spanky's have the pour-in G6 which is a foam midsole that doesn't come out. There is a thinner non-G6 insole that sits above the pour-in G6. The G6 insoles in the link above is the same insole that comes in all the vulc shoes such as the Dickson, Wino slip-on, etc.
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?
Haha you happened to check these today of all days as today is our April fools day sale (buy an accessory and get a free pair of shoes).
To answer your question, the Spanky's have the pour-in G6 which is a foam midsole that doesn't come out. There is a thinner non-G6 insole that sits above the pour-in G6. The G6 insoles in the link above is the same insole that comes in all the vulc shoes such as the Dickson, Wino slip-on, etc.
@EmericaTM Hah! Figures ;)
Thanks for the info!
FYI I tried to add the insoles to the cart, which it did, but there was no where to select a free pair of shoes ot specify size, etc. What am I missing?
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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.
How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!
Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?
Haha you happened to check these today of all days as today is our April fools day sale (buy an accessory and get a free pair of shoes).
To answer your question, the Spanky's have the pour-in G6 which is a foam midsole that doesn't come out. There is a thinner non-G6 insole that sits above the pour-in G6. The G6 insoles in the link above is the same insole that comes in all the vulc shoes such as the Dickson, Wino slip-on, etc.
@EmericaTM Hah! Figures ;)
Thanks for the info!
FYI I tried to add the insoles to the cart, which it did, but there was no where to select a free pair of shoes ot specify size, etc. What am I missing?
So it's any sale shoe comes free. Add a pair of sales shoes to the cart as well as whichever accessory you'd like and it should automatically change the price for you. Please let me know if this works or if you have any other issues.
https://emerica.com/collections/sale
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Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.
I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.
Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.
Then I checked out this reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Kneesovertoes/comments/ncfo4d/ben_patrick_is_a_scientologist/
Not concrete, plausible perhaps
https://www.freedommag.org/magazine/florida/201910-clearwater-citizen/ben-patrick.html
https://www.scientology.org/videos/meet-a-scientologist/region/north-america/~mass-ben-patrik.html
Damn, the images didn't render on mobile but those are pretty damning. He seems like a total weirdo honestly and is oddly always out of breath.
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for the people that hate the game changers did you put them in the oven before you put them in your shoes?
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Yes
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I am looking to buy another pair of NB 440. I have been having ankle issues the last couple of years, and I want to add insoles to make the shoe more cushioned. Any suggestions for good insoles that fit without raising the foot (especially the toe portion) too much? I want that portion to remain cupped from the outsole, to maintain normal shoe wear. Thanks in advance.
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I don't know if it's a good idea to stack insoles, especially with ankle issues. Surely that would just de-stablize things?
You might want to pull the stock one out and go with a Remind Medic.
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
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I have been using the fp insoles you stick in the oven, I was 150 pounds over weight for like fifteen years so I have fallen arches, those are the only insoles that have enough arch support for me with out pushing on them. All other insoles after five minutes of skating I can barely walk back out of the park.
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I'm reusing the insoles that came stock on two pairs of Maranas I had because they're so fucking good.
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I am looking to buy another pair of NB 440. I have been having ankle issues the last couple of years, and I want to add insoles to make the shoe more cushioned. Any suggestions for good insoles that fit without raising the foot (especially the toe portion) too much? I want that portion to remain cupped from the outsole, to maintain normal shoe wear. Thanks in advance.
I threw in 3mm Footprint Gamechangers (3mm are hard to find); they work great and didn't raise heel or toe like the regular 6-7mm ones did (they were unusable in the 440s).
My knees love these things.
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
got a pair of super feet on ice actually, how they treating you?
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Thanks guys. Of course I am planning to remove the stock insole, and want something that will cushion the impact when I walk/skate. My ankle is not rolled or anything, there is some bone bruising just above the cartillage of the leg bone where it connects to the foot and that gives me mad pain at random times. I guess I will try the remind medic or the microwaveable fp as the 3mm fp sounds like not much change compared to the stock.
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i do not recommend the microwavable footprints at all
plantar fasciitis wasnt a problem until those insoles
the moldable foam gets way too hard imo
threw those out, switched to kingfoam elites and recovered
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Maybe it's just me, but FP/kingfoam insoles do NOT seem to be the same quality they used to be. They seem much harder/stiffer these days (I used the elites). Once, they were amazing, but now....Vans insoles are better than them, IMHO.
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Fundamentally, I'd recommend getting a shoe with a good midsole - that makes more difference than an insole.
I've tried the FP Gamechangers, and the Remedy Medic as well as the Destin.
The Gamechangers are decent; good arch support and relatively stiff while still being slightly flexible/giving some board feel. They last the life of a few pairs of shoes. I'd definitely get them again.
However, as others have mentioned, sucks the owners are cringe.
The Medic has a really high arch and is super stiff. There was almost no board feel at all. To top that off the impact absorption isn't that great - seems to transfer more impact shock to the feet than the Gamechangers. Others swear by them, so maybe I got a bunk pair? YMMV, but I wasn't too impressed with them.
The Destins have some impact protection and are very flexible out of the gate but don't provide much arch support. If you want some shock absorption without sacrificing board feel I'd go with these.
TL;DR - If you can stomach the Kooks who run the company, go with the Gamechangers.
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I’ve used game changers in just about every pair I’ve skated. As others have mentioned, they don’t work very well if a shoe is low, like in janoskis they raised my foot up too much. I think they work well in 1010s and dunk lows. Anything mid or high they should be fine. I really like them in blazer mids and 440 highs. Didn’t like them with tyshawns because that shoe was already cramped and the game changers only make that worse.
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
Really nice. Again, everybody’s different, but I find they really help. Without them, my ankles, knees, and hips/lower back get all fucky, out of alignment, and sore. I tried orthotics for a while, but superfeet worked much better for me. That said, I never tried any of the skate brand insoles, so I don’t know how they compare.
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
Really nice. Again, everybody’s different, but I find they really help. Without them, my ankles, knees, and hips/lower back get all fucky, out of alignment, and sore. I tried orthotics for a while, but superfeet worked much better for me. That said, I never tried any of the skate brand insoles, so I don’t know how they compare.
This is the first I've heard of Superfeet. Perused their site. Have either of y'all used the orange ones?
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I have skated vans skate (formerly pro) series shoes for a few years straight now, and my go to insole for those has been some lunarlon ones from some converse CTAS back when they had lunarlon. They’re getting pretty beat up these days, and I wouldn’t mind replacing them with another insole, but it’s kinda hard to find lunarlon ones from old converse skate shoes.
Any recommendations on a similar/slightly more cushy version of lunarlon I could run in my Vans/the odd GT Blazer I skate?
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Maybe try the G6? The KSL (pour in g6) is amazing feeling.
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
Really nice. Again, everybody’s different, but I find they really help. Without them, my ankles, knees, and hips/lower back get all fucky, out of alignment, and sore. I tried orthotics for a while, but superfeet worked much better for me. That said, I never tried any of the skate brand insoles, so I don’t know how they compare.
No, unfortunately, I’ve only ever used the green ones.
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Maybe try the G6? The KSL (pour in g6) is amazing feeling.
Good shout. Had a pair of wino G6’s a while back and I remember the insole being pretty solid. But the heel lock on that shoe was probably why I don’t think about skating those again. I’ll keep my eyes out for some g6’s
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I have skated vans skate (formerly pro) series shoes for a few years straight now, and my go to insole for those has been some lunarlon ones from some converse CTAS back when they had lunarlon. They’re getting pretty beat up these days, and I wouldn’t mind replacing them with another insole, but it’s kinda hard to find lunarlon ones from old converse skate shoes.
Any recommendations on a similar/slightly more cushy version of lunarlon I could run in my Vans/the odd GT Blazer I skate?
I bought a pair of SB Bruins with react insoles on sale and I really like them. They're a thick, flexible, and high quality insole like the lunarlons, so I'm saving the insoles for whatever shoe I skate next.
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I have skated vans skate (formerly pro) series shoes for a few years straight now, and my go to insole for those has been some lunarlon ones from some converse CTAS back when they had lunarlon. They’re getting pretty beat up these days, and I wouldn’t mind replacing them with another insole, but it’s kinda hard to find lunarlon ones from old converse skate shoes.
Any recommendations on a similar/slightly more cushy version of lunarlon I could run in my Vans/the odd GT Blazer I skate?
Man, those Lunaron insoles were great. I did the same thing and kept them way beyond the pair of shoes they came in until they were trashed.
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
Really nice. Again, everybody’s different, but I find they really help. Without them, my ankles, knees, and hips/lower back get all fucky, out of alignment, and sore. I tried orthotics for a while, but superfeet worked much better for me. That said, I never tried any of the skate brand insoles, so I don’t know how they compare.
The Orange can be kind of bulky feeling, they’re great for running or even basketball but can feel a bit blocky in a skate shoe. Really hides the feel of your heel side rail when you stand on your board.
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Superfeet do not work for me, skating: good arch support, minimal impact protection. Superfeet worked ok, for work shoes (standing on feet for long hours).
So far the destins have been excellent. I was in a hurry to skate the day I trimmed them, and …the cut job I did looks insane. But I don’t notice my handiwork when they are in the shoe.
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Maybe try the G6? The KSL (pour in g6) is amazing feeling.
Good shout. Had a pair of wino G6’s a while back and I remember the insole being pretty solid. But the heel lock on that shoe was probably why I don’t think about skating those again. I’ll keep my eyes out for some g6’s
@MC3 On Sale ($13.99) https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green
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Maybe try the G6? The KSL (pour in g6) is amazing feeling.
Good shout. Had a pair of wino G6’s a while back and I remember the insole being pretty solid. But the heel lock on that shoe was probably why I don’t think about skating those again. I’ll keep my eyes out for some g6’s
@MC3 On Sale ($13.99) https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green
damn you're looking out for me today! ordered em now
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I have skated vans skate (formerly pro) series shoes for a few years straight now, and my go to insole for those has been some lunarlon ones from some converse CTAS back when they had lunarlon. They’re getting pretty beat up these days, and I wouldn’t mind replacing them with another insole, but it’s kinda hard to find lunarlon ones from old converse skate shoes.
Any recommendations on a similar/slightly more cushy version of lunarlon I could run in my Vans/the odd GT Blazer I skate?
Man, those Lunaron insoles were great. I did the same thing and kept them way beyond the pair of shoes they came in until they were trashed.
same, the fabric that was on top of the foam has long since came off and it's just my sock against the glue residue and the foam these days
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I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.
Really nice. Again, everybody’s different, but I find they really help. Without them, my ankles, knees, and hips/lower back get all fucky, out of alignment, and sore. I tried orthotics for a while, but superfeet worked much better for me. That said, I never tried any of the skate brand insoles, so I don’t know how they compare.
The Orange can be kind of bulky feeling, they’re great for running or even basketball but can feel a bit blocky in a skate shoe. Really hides the feel of your heel side rail when you stand on your board.
bummer, the orange ones are the ones I have on ice...
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i personally want a cloud of an insole
boardfeel is my third or fourth priority
im tall, heavy, and have hops. cushioning cant be neglected
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i personally want a cloud of an insole
boardfeel is my third or fourth priority
im tall, heavy, and have hops. cushioning cant be neglected
Vans Ultra cush?
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i personally want a cloud of an insole
boardfeel is my third or fourth priority
im tall, heavy, and have hops. cushioning cant be neglected
like adidas boost or hoka one one eva foam..like walking on clouds..
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Second the NIKE [Bruin] React insoles, they were very easy on my knees and fit well around the heel.
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My feet have been hurting bad skating the half cab pros. Said fk it and ordered KSL 1's and gamechanger insoles. That should do it.
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My feet have been hurting bad skating the half cab pros. Said fk it and ordered KSL 1's and gamechanger insoles. That should do it.
Even w/out the FP insoles, the KSLs are great.
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i personally want a cloud of an insole
boardfeel is my third or fourth priority
im tall, heavy, and have hops. cushioning cant be neglected
These are like adding adding an adidas Boost midsole to any shoe. I like the Starter Comfort model for tighter toe boxes as they have a higher heel and thinner forefoot, but they have less contour:
https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/starter-insoles (https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/starter-insoles)
I like the Ultra Deluxe 2.0 for support. More contour and more even thickness from heel to toe:
https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles (https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles)
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just bought a pair of Remind Medics Impact and they are way too thick for a SB Dunk High insole replacement.
Definitely not skateable if i dont want to twist my ankle serveral times per session.
Since i dont want to buy Footprints anymore and im not really sure which Reminds could fit im hoping someone got a hint.
Im looking for an insole which lets me skate longer since i get tired and sore legs pretty quick into the session in stock insoles.
I have a low to medium arch.
Im not skating big gaps anymore so i dont need that much impact protection but i guess it wont do harm either to have some.
Greatly appreciate any advice.
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just bought a pair of Remind Medics Impact and they are way too thick for a SB Dunk High insole replacement.
Definitely not skateable if i dont want to twist my ankle serveral times per session.
Since i dont want to buy Footprints anymore and im not really sure which Reminds could fit im hoping someone got a hint.
Im looking for an insole which lets me skate longer since i get tired and sore legs pretty quick into the session in stock insoles.
I have a low to medium arch.
Im not skating big gaps anymore so i dont need that much impact protection but i guess it wont do harm either to have some.
Greatly appreciate any advice.
I actually emailed them the other day and this is what they said:
Thanks for reaching out... Do you want something with an arch? What type of footwear is this going into?
Flatter and softer? That would be the Destin Impact.
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Just bumping what I wrote on the other pages.
I have used Superfeet Orange in Vans. They are thicker and are the closest in height to Popcush. I would say I prefer the Sole Performance Thick, which are slightly thinner, but heat moldable and brace the outer arch a bit better. They are made of cork and foam, which seems to absorb impact better than other things I have tried, but it is splitting hairs.
Insoles are for more than just cushioning. If your arch does not collapse and you are able to properly brace your body then your whole body can help absorb impact. A simple test is to stand on one leg and move your knee quickly side-to-side. If the ankle and/or shoe rolls laterally than your ankle musculature is going to have to compensate for your clear arch collapsing. Put the insole in and see how much it reduces this. I would wager a lot of older skaters would benefit from more support and lower body strength than some kind of foam cushion.
For me Reminds were super thick and had terrible support. There is no way I could run them in Vans. This goes for the Cush and the Medic. Frankly they felt worse than the stock insoles and I sent them back.
Footprint Gamechangers don't provide much support for me and they reduce board feel. I am not sure they do anything better than a non-skate orthotic and the things I care about are far worse.
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Just bumping what I wrote on the other pages.
I have used Superfeet Orange in Vans. They are thicker and are the closest in height to Popcush. I would say I prefer the Sole Performance Thick, which are slightly thinner, but heat moldable and brace the outer arch a bit better. They are made of core and foam, which seems to absorb impact better than other things I have tried, but it is splitting hairs.
Insoles are for more than just cushioning. If your arch does not collapse and you are able to properly brace your body then your whole body can help absorb impact. A simple test is to stand on one leg and move your knee quickly side-to-side. If the ankle and/or shoe rolls laterally than your ankle musculature is going to have to compensate for your clear arch collapsing. Put the insole in and see how much it reduces this. I would wager a lot of older skaters would benefit from more support and lower body strength than some kind of foam cushion.
For me Reminds were super thick and had terrible support. There is no way I could run them in Vans. This goes for the Cush and the Medic. Frankly they felt worse than the stock insoles and I sent them back.
Footprint Gamechangers don't provide much support for me and they reduce board feel. I am not sure they do anything better than a non-skate orthotic and the things I care about are far worse.
Recently got some Superfeet dynamic run max after years of trying stock insoles, fp insoles, and other variants of soft cushioned insoles in my shoes and I really think I can agree with this sentiment in general.
https://www.fleetfeet.com/products/superfeet-x-fleet-feet-dynamic-run-max?gclid=CjwKCAjwmJeYBhAwEiwAXlg0AeBNUG2h3IJnd8CduXmM83ivvDhIFX5qr4-9uWZ62IY62B09L60jYxoCsG4QAvD_BwE&size=C
These are much thinner than most of the softer and/or thicker insoles I've tried, but they're pretty dense and the arch support is hard so feels good under my feet. I'm pretty noticeably less sore and feet hurt less after skating. Feels like it just distributes everything better in a subtle way.
Was pretty skeptical at first because they feel so thin and walking around doesn't seem like there's as much cushion.
Your mileage may vary but I'll be buying these thin superfeet run variants to throw in my cupsoles for the foreseeable future.
I also got the superfeet orange, a little more forefoot cushioning in those, but for most of my cupsoles shoes, they make my foot a little too high up in the shoe for it to work well for skating, good for chilling though. I imagine if the stock insole is thick like a vans one, or a nike react, it could work well though.
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Ill echo what Ive read here before and say the FP Gamechangers used to be softer and amazing and then all of a sudden my new set were stiff and hard, and the next too. Mid 2020 I wanna say?
Swapped out the FP’s I always run in my Emerica Omen Hi’s with the G6 insoles they came with this week. So far so good. Feel pretty similar, maybe G6’s are slightly comfier. Caveat is I dont jump down stuff. But I pop around a lot and usually deal with pain if the shoes dont protect well.
I also felt like the contour/shape my FP’s were already molded to were too extreme for my foot, exacerbating my existing issues maybe? The G6’s feel better, could be the novelty... Will report back but I could be off that Brezinski tip (thankfully) for good
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i personally want a cloud of an insole
boardfeel is my third or fourth priority
im tall, heavy, and have hops. cushioning cant be neglected
These are like adding adding an adidas Boost midsole to any shoe. I like the Starter Comfort model for tighter toe boxes as they have a higher heel and thinner forefoot, but they have less contour:
https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/starter-insoles (https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/starter-insoles)
I like the Ultra Deluxe 2.0 for support. More contour and more even thickness from heel to toe:
https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles (https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles)
i use the starter ones in most of my vulc shoes. definitely well cushioned for the lack of bulk.
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i personally want a cloud of an insole
boardfeel is my third or fourth priority
im tall, heavy, and have hops. cushioning cant be neglected
These are like adding adding an adidas Boost midsole to any shoe. I like the Starter Comfort model for tighter toe boxes as they have a higher heel and thinner forefoot, but they have less contour:
https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/starter-insoles (https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/starter-insoles)
I like the Ultra Deluxe 2.0 for support. More contour and more even thickness from heel to toe:
https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles (https://www.hefeluxx.com/collections/insole/products/deluxe-comfort-insoles)
i use the starter ones in most of my vulc shoes. definitely well cushioned for the lack of bulk.
Yeah these are quite good too. My favourite ones I've tried outside of superfeet
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(https://i.ibb.co/jMBwR4c/PXL-20231014-222112718.jpg)
Bumping this thread cause I've never tried any aftermarket insoles and these were $20 with great reviews. I just helped someone move all day today and had these in the Jamie foy NB# slip ons and they felt amazing. Highly recommend
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Been skating the orange Superfeet for about two months and they work good for me. Only problem i've noticed is that the plastic is slowly separating and it's kinda annoying. Had them on Forums so the impact protection was top notch and i felt like i could stick any trick.
I have green ones in work shoes and they majorly reduced my knee pains. I would atleast recommend them for anyone who has to stand around whole day.
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I almost went with some superfeet insoles but they seem pretty pricey for the super supportive ones, and the more regular ones didn't seem to offer much protection. I remember having some skate shoes with stock ortholite insoles and I liked them a lot, so that's why I went with the Florsheims.
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I’m a big fan of super feet. At 1st they did suck for skating but then of after wearing them in my work shoes to break them in they were great. IG just got me on those Fulton insoles. So far I love them. Definitely needed break in period. I have no arch so I’m getting the ones
With lowest lech support to keep my foot from rolling in and it’s helping.
I like to rotate insoles keeping them fresh. Remind insoles seem to get a good review must I can’t stand the art work on them.