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Hey Pals 44 years young. Been on a strictly meat only diet for 2 weeks. Starting to feel the benefits after having long covid for over a year and inflimation in my lungs.
Meat is rather bland by itself but man do I feel the energy and lack of hunger. So much easier to fast. Going well so far.
Anyone else gone down this meat path.
Interested in tips and personal stories.
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Didn’t that twerp Jordan Peterson do this and get really sick?
Just go Keto and throw some veggies in there
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
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So what do you eat in a day exactly
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
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So what do you eat in a day exactly
Start day with coffee with a cube of butter.
Water sometimes with salt for electrolytes.
No need for breakfast as I'm not hungry until 1pm. I will vary my lunch between a grass fed steak, bacon (nitrate free of course) and eggs, smoked salmon , mince meat, and sometimes sardines.
A bone broth is also helpful.
I had steak yesterday for lunch and dinner as it has the most nutrient rich.
The funny thing is that my family is fully vegetarian so I have to prepare a vege meal before I chow down on protein.
The best part is that I don't snack. I don't eat sugar. And I no longer fart.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
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So what do you eat in a day exactly
Start day with coffee with a cube of butter.
Water sometimes with salt for electrolytes.
No need for breakfast as I'm not hungry until 1pm. I will vary my lunch between a grass fed steak, bacon (nitrate free of course) and eggs, smoked salmon , mince meat, and sometimes sardines.
A bone broth is also helpful.
I had steak yesterday for lunch and dinner as it has the most nutrient rich.
The funny thing is that my family is fully vegetarian so I have to prepare a vege meal before I chow down on protein.
The best part is that I don't snack. I don't eat sugar. And I no longer fart.
One reason to never try this type of diet. wtf dude
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So where do you get vitamins and fiber from?
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How did you eat before you started this carnivorus thing? Could it be you’re just feeling hood because you don’t put processed foods into your body atm?
I’m all for eating healthy (which I personally don’t excel on) but I don’t think I could justify a all-meat diet for myself.
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but vegetables are cool
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
So are you like a Liver King / Andrew Tate guy?
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I get the no processed food aspect.
But why not include veg?
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Listen. It's like trying to clean off the canvas. I will introduce vegetables one at a time and see what works for me. But right now a very basic diet is helping my health.
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So where do you get vitamins and fiber from?
Meat! No need for fibre
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
So are you like a Liver King / Andrew Tate guy?
Not sure who they are?
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So what do you eat in a day exactly
Start day with coffee with a cube of butter.
Water sometimes with salt for electrolytes.
No need for breakfast as I'm not hungry until 1pm. I will vary my lunch between a grass fed steak, bacon (nitrate free of course) and eggs, smoked salmon , mince meat, and sometimes sardines.
A bone broth is also helpful.
I had steak yesterday for lunch and dinner as it has the most nutrient rich.
The funny thing is that my family is fully vegetarian so I have to prepare a vege meal before I chow down on protein.
The best part is that I don't snack. I don't eat sugar. And I no longer fart.
One reason to never try this type of diet. wtf dude
Trust me. My wife nearly got a divorce because my flatulence was so rancid. Of course I still fart but it's so minimal now.
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So where do you get vitamins and fiber from?
Meat! No need for fibre
so you havent shit in like 2 weeks then
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So where do you get vitamins and fiber from?
Meat! No need for fibre
so you havent shit in like 2 weeks then
Still shit . Just not as much due to not needing as much to eat. Look up the cons of fibre in your diet.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
Fair enough point. I get it. I would say that a diet high in animal fat has plenty of energy as i have recently discovered. The diet is extreme and takes a real shift in mentality from the norm. I'm not trying to convert anyone I'm just seeing if anyone else had experience of it that I could learn from them.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Thanks man, glad to hear it's working for you as well. I didn't even start this diet to lose weight, honestly. I was experiencing dermatographia the last few years out of nowhere and it has subsided but not entirely and I still have to take an antihistamine every day. I was also having digestive issues and extreme stomach aches. The animal-based diet thing definitely jives with my body and reversed the issues I was having. So I am sticking with it for the foreseeable future.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
Fair enough point. I get it. I would say that a diet high in animal fat has plenty of energy as i have recently discovered. The diet is extreme and takes a real shift in mentality from the norm. I'm not trying to convert anyone I'm just seeing if anyone else had experience of it that I could learn from them.
it will kill your organs and you are going to find out if you keep this up for a year and get bloodwork done. it's also irresponsible towards the climate. if every human would live like this, we'd need so much cattle, we'd probably need gasmasks, because you can't put those cattle on the carnivore diet, so they don't fart. they will do be fartin a lot. not to mention that you 100% don't eat every part of an animal. you probably alternate between a few different cuts which just means that most likely for every 125g of meat you eat, some other animal had to be slaughtered to deliver you that cut. and as long as you don't hold those animals yourself and only feed them grain(pfoooih, veggies...), any piece of meat is going to be processed in some way, that means it's curated for you to eat. and if it's not organic, it's probably ripe with all sorts of traces of hormones, medicine/antibiotics, pesticides from the stuff the animals eat, to a much higher degree than any vegetable could be because it lasts longer and gets more concentrated in meat, especially some organs.
eating only meat is barbaric and selfish. the only reason you feel better is probably because your diet before was trash, too. you're eating anabolic(high protein all the time), which in the short term makes everyone feel strong. but it's not sustainable! and you can get that protein from other sources just as easily.
there's a reason 9/10 nutritionists will think you're crazy when you ask them if meat only is a good idea, and the one who tells you to do so usually will sell you a bunch of supplements and books just so you don't die, like so many prominent proponents of carnivore diet do. i.e. mikaela peterson. the social implications can't be ignored also. there's a reason meat only diets are the favorite diet of gun toting, climate change denying, transphobic racist bigots and conservatives in search of lost manliness. it's one of their big lies that we used to eat only meat and things were so much better, along with other things like social structures or concepts that didn't exist when we lived as nomadic tribes, like marriage. the claim that we used to eat only meat is especially ludicrous, since meat simply wasn't available all the time. and while hunting for game we only accelerated or caused the extinction of said game. wo when a few hunts go wrong everyone just starved to death, refused to eat berries, potatos and just died cause no meat? we'd be long extinct if this was true.
anyways, i don't really care, if you want to only eat meat and feel great about it, ok. but don't go around here claiming it's healthy. scientifically that's a niche opinion that you shouldn't state as fact. if carnivore diet was actually healthy it would be a thing by now. but humanity tries to eat less meat because our consumption is a big problem for the whole planet. i wish you the best and hope you don't end up needing a kidney transplant or some shit. Expand Quote
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Thanks man, glad to hear it's working for you as well. I didn't even start this diet to lose weight, honestly. I was experiencing dermatographia the last few years out of nowhere and it has subsided but not entirely and I still have to take an antihistamine every day. I was also having digestive issues and extreme stomach aches. The animal-based diet thing definitely jives with my body and reversed the issues I was having. So I am sticking with it for the foreseeable future.
ill be a fucking asshole here and say this: you were fat, of course you feel better after losing weight. you basically did keto for 7 months. now your eating seems to normalize, you actually eat fruits too, and now, since eating carbs, you even feel better. yeah go figure, you need those carbs. every human needs carbs, fiber, fat, protein, in certain amounts. you guys go all protein. it's powerful and makes you feel stronger and healthier than you are.
losing 70lbs in 7 months is way too fast, still congrats tho if that's what you wanted to achieve. it would have been better if you kept more weight and turned it into muscle mass tho.
i'll leave this here, too: for a large part of my 20s, i pretty much only consumed beer. i felt great for the most part, until a few years later. what i mean is just because your high energy diet makes you feel good it doesn't mean it's actually good for you.
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Fuck FRANK. What do you eat to keep that rant energy up. ???keen to try it. Beef I eat comes from one local farm. It travels maybe 50km. Pork is a little different. Half the shit in the supermarket travels halfway around the world to end up in a packet for you. Animals natural habitats are killed to grow grain and vege similar to growing cattle.. There is no such thing as a vegan diet because of this. No one is perfect.
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right now the top two threads here are "Milf Manor" and "Carnivore Diet"...SLAP has arrived
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
What if I said that I have been two weeks off the booze and drugs. Would you stand up and clap like on Oprah? I'm not pushing shit on anyone .
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I have done this and it fully cleared up my eczema. Started feeling the good effects after 3-4 weeks. Did it for 2.5 months and lost about 15-20lbs and the eczema. Also never realized I had brain fog until I did this. Was thinking clear af after a month and was like wtf. Getting back into it next week as I just made a large order of grass fed/finished meat. Let me know if you want to discuss real world results as I've been through it.
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Fuck FRANK. What do you eat to keep that rant energy up. ???keen to try it. Beef I eat comes from one local farm. It travels maybe 50km. Pork is a little different. Half the shit in the supermarket travels halfway around the world to end up in a packet for you. Animals natural habitats are killed to grow grain and vege similar to growing cattle.. There is no such thing as a vegan diet because of this. No one is perfect.
i could eat a lot better tbh. and i'm not even vegan, i eat meat occasionally and especially if it means the food my roommate cooked would go to waste. your choice to eat meat isn't my gripe. i'm also not mad if it makes you feel better, i believe that. it's still not healthy in the long run. you feel better than before, but what does before mean? did you go from a conventional healthy diet to this or was it that munched down massive amounts of junk like doritos and mt dew and thought this might be the solution? feeling better than before is always relative. and your body can get by for a while with this eating habit, but not forever.
we could never even provide a third of the human population with a diet such as this, especially organically fed. it's impossible on that scale. we will never get totally rid of using animals for work or food, this i am certain of. some of it will remain for religious and cultural reasons. so the question is how we can reduce this consumption while maintaining a good health. the fact that you only eat organic meat doesn't make you a better meat eater either. the animal is still fucking dead my guy. no way around that fact. and all this "comes from a nice farm where it was organically fed and peacefully sung to death" that doesn't matter. an animal bred and fed to be slaughtered is functionally an object turned into a consumer product and the fact it had a nice life is of no moral value, it's just qc. i still eat meat because i'm desensitized to its consumption. i literally have no moral backbone regarding this anymore, only rational thought keeps me from it, the occasional realization that it's a crime and insult towards all semi-sentient lifeforms i share this planet with.
and how is the first thing you think when you get the idea that you want to avoid processed foods to go full carnivore instead of maybe farming some veggies or fruits on your own? and how is it enjoyable to live like this, living off of (as you admitted yourself) bland meats? it's not fun. i feel especially insulted because i'm a cook. making people hungry and having them like my food is my job. if everyone was like you i'd be pennyless. you seem to hate flavor. that's ok but why advertise eating bland food? have you considered searing your meats and maybe put that salt you put in your drinking water on that steak? that way you could just drink normal water and have some electrolytes. you could also just eat a bit of salt. sorry i'm really getting hung up how you got the idea to salt your water. this is something i can't rationally understand.
lastly, the deforestations you mentioned are mainly for cattle grain and biofuel. not for veggies we eat. that only makes up a tiny part. fucking mc donalds is world famous for deforesting large swaths of rainforest for cattlegrain. soyfields are planted not to make tofu out of it, but also food for cattle. corn as food for cattle. maybe you get it now. we don't need these fields for veggies, we can already grow enough veggies. everyone can grow their own in a green house, even up north. we figured this out forever ago. the deforestations are mainly there because of the massmeatindustry. so you got that the wrong way.
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I have done this and it fully cleared up my eczema. Started feeling the good effects after 3-4 weeks. Did it for 2.5 months and lost about 15-20lbs and the eczema. Also never realized I had brain fog until I did this. Was thinking clear af after a month and was like wtf. Getting back into it next week as I just made a large order of grass fed/finished meat. Let me know if you want to discuss real world results as I've been through it.
i am convinced you are all dumbass nerds who were addicted, but also allergic to doritos. then you got hairloss and was looking up male pattern baldness cures and you found the sigma male dominance life tips channel on yt. on the side you were put on the meat only thing. now you do keto without knowing, thus losing weight way(!) too rapidly, thinking wow, this is fucking sick bro! i'm getting ripped. and since you don't eat actual poison anymore, you lost your eczema, but of course, the meat healed it! it's the meat, praise the meat! it was the veggies all along.
guys let's be real here, no one goes from a healthy diet to all meats. that's like crisis mode/i gotta change shit/reinvent myself in a wacky way. it goes along with the stupid keto fad that's been going on. these are special diets for people with illnesses or athletes.
if i try this shit out and i still smoke cigarettes after two weeks i will sue tf out of every meathead in this thread, yall gave me lung cancer basically.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
They both ended up in the hospital and there is nothing to substantiate any of their claims for how this diet helped them and there is no reputable doctor that recommends such a diet. Dr. Peterson seems to have come completely unglued after his benzo episode and an apparent overwhelming sense of impending doom brought on by...cider.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
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Fuck FRANK. What do you eat to keep that rant energy up. ???keen to try it. Beef I eat comes from one local farm. It travels maybe 50km. Pork is a little different. Half the shit in the supermarket travels halfway around the world to end up in a packet for you. Animals natural habitats are killed to grow grain and vege similar to growing cattle.. There is no such thing as a vegan diet because of this. No one is perfect.
i could eat a lot better tbh. and i'm not even vegan, i eat meat occasionally and especially if it means the food my roommate cooked would go to waste. your choice to eat meat isn't my gripe. i'm also not mad if it makes you feel better, i believe that. it's still not healthy in the long run. you feel better than before, but what does before mean? did you go from a conventional healthy diet to this or was it that munched down massive amounts of junk like doritos and mt dew and thought this might be the solution? feeling better than before is always relative. and your body can get by for a while with this eating habit, but not forever.
we could never even provide a third of the human population with a diet such as this, especially organically fed. it's impossible on that scale. we will never get totally rid of using animals for work or food, this i am certain of. some of it will remain for religious and cultural reasons. so the question is how we can reduce this consumption while maintaining a good health. the fact that you only eat organic meat doesn't make you a better meat eater either. the animal is still fucking dead my guy. no way around that fact. and all this "comes from a nice farm where it was organically fed and peacefully sung to death" that doesn't matter. an animal bred and fed to be slaughtered is functionally an object turned into a consumer product and the fact it had a nice life is of no moral value, it's just qc. i still eat meat because i'm desensitized to its consumption. i literally have no moral backbone regarding this anymore, only rational thought keeps me from it, the occasional realization that it's a crime and insult towards all semi-sentient lifeforms i share this planet with.
and how is the first thing you think when you get the idea that you want to avoid processed foods to go full carnivore instead of maybe farming some veggies or fruits on your own? and how is it enjoyable to live like this, living off of (as you admitted yourself) bland meats? it's not fun. i feel especially insulted because i'm a cook. making people hungry and having them like my food is my job. if everyone was like you i'd be pennyless. you seem to hate flavor. that's ok but why advertise eating bland food? have you considered searing your meats and maybe put that salt you put in your drinking water on that steak? that way you could just drink normal water and have some electrolytes. you could also just eat a bit of salt. sorry i'm really getting hung up how you got the idea to salt your water. this is something i can't rationally understand.
lastly, the deforestations you mentioned are mainly for cattle grain and biofuel. not for veggies we eat. that only makes up a tiny part. fucking mc donalds is world famous for deforesting large swaths of rainforest for cattlegrain. soyfields are planted not to make tofu out of it, but also food for cattle. corn as food for cattle. maybe you get it now. we don't need these fields for veggies, we can already grow enough veggies. everyone can grow their own in a green house, even up north. we figured this out forever ago. the deforestations are mainly there because of the massmeatindustry. so you got that the wrong way.
Frank I love your passion mate. Don't freak out. If you read what I had to say earlier you could see that I was giving it a trial. You would also have seen that my family are vegetarian and we ate a well balanced vegetarian diet for years. My daughter is the driver of this and we all have adapted for her .I am not over weight . I don't drink or smoke but have struggled with autoimmune problems since covid . I have been diagnosed with long covid and have inflammation of the lungs called sarcoidosis, this was given to me by the jab (Another controversial subject that no one is allowed to even discuss )I have been struggling through life over the past year. Not being able to skate much or even hold down a job. No form of doctor could give me an answer or a solution. I then spoke to a friend who has had great health benefits from this diet. So here I am . I'm giving it a go. So far so good. It's not been easy because I love veges and I hate steak. But the changes after a few bumpy days have been positive.
I don't intend to do this forever as it's lots to carry all the time. I kind of regret bringing it up on slap because most people just jump on their soap box. That's the internet for you.
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Fuck FRANK. What do you eat to keep that rant energy up. ???keen to try it. Beef I eat comes from one local farm. It travels maybe 50km. Pork is a little different. Half the shit in the supermarket travels halfway around the world to end up in a packet for you. Animals natural habitats are killed to grow grain and vege similar to growing cattle.. There is no such thing as a vegan diet because of this. No one is perfect.
i could eat a lot better tbh. and i'm not even vegan, i eat meat occasionally and especially if it means the food my roommate cooked would go to waste. your choice to eat meat isn't my gripe. i'm also not mad if it makes you feel better, i believe that. it's still not healthy in the long run. you feel better than before, but what does before mean? did you go from a conventional healthy diet to this or was it that munched down massive amounts of junk like doritos and mt dew and thought this might be the solution? feeling better than before is always relative. and your body can get by for a while with this eating habit, but not forever.
we could never even provide a third of the human population with a diet such as this, especially organically fed. it's impossible on that scale. we will never get totally rid of using animals for work or food, this i am certain of. some of it will remain for religious and cultural reasons. so the question is how we can reduce this consumption while maintaining a good health. the fact that you only eat organic meat doesn't make you a better meat eater either. the animal is still fucking dead my guy. no way around that fact. and all this "comes from a nice farm where it was organically fed and peacefully sung to death" that doesn't matter. an animal bred and fed to be slaughtered is functionally an object turned into a consumer product and the fact it had a nice life is of no moral value, it's just qc. i still eat meat because i'm desensitized to its consumption. i literally have no moral backbone regarding this anymore, only rational thought keeps me from it, the occasional realization that it's a crime and insult towards all semi-sentient lifeforms i share this planet with.
and how is the first thing you think when you get the idea that you want to avoid processed foods to go full carnivore instead of maybe farming some veggies or fruits on your own? and how is it enjoyable to live like this, living off of (as you admitted yourself) bland meats? it's not fun. i feel especially insulted because i'm a cook. making people hungry and having them like my food is my job. if everyone was like you i'd be pennyless. you seem to hate flavor. that's ok but why advertise eating bland food? have you considered searing your meats and maybe put that salt you put in your drinking water on that steak? that way you could just drink normal water and have some electrolytes. you could also just eat a bit of salt. sorry i'm really getting hung up how you got the idea to salt your water. this is something i can't rationally understand.
lastly, the deforestations you mentioned are mainly for cattle grain and biofuel. not for veggies we eat. that only makes up a tiny part. fucking mc donalds is world famous for deforesting large swaths of rainforest for cattlegrain. soyfields are planted not to make tofu out of it, but also food for cattle. corn as food for cattle. maybe you get it now. we don't need these fields for veggies, we can already grow enough veggies. everyone can grow their own in a green house, even up north. we figured this out forever ago. the deforestations are mainly there because of the massmeatindustry. so you got that the wrong way.
Frank I love your passion mate. Don't freak out. If you read what I had to say earlier you could see that I was giving it a trial. You would also have seen that my family are vegetarian and we ate a well balanced vegetarian diet for years. My daughter is the driver of this and we all have adapted for her .I am not over weight . I don't drink or smoke but have struggled with autoimmune problems since covid . I have been diagnosed with long covid and have inflammation of the lungs called sarcoidosis, this was given to me by the jab (Another controversial subject that no one is allowed to even discuss )I have been struggling through life over the past year. Not being able to skate much or even hold down a job. No form of doctor could give me an answer or a solution. I then spoke to a friend who has had great health benefits from this diet. So here I am . I'm giving it a go. So far so good. It's not been easy because I love veges and I hate steak. But the changes after a few bumpy days have been positive.
I don't intend to do this forever as it's lots to carry all the time. I kind of regret bringing it up on slap because most people just jump on their soap box. That's the internet for you.
speak your truth. i think open dialogue makes the world better. i am veg btw but enjoy hearing others' experiences.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
Oh, you don't want me to do that. Seems you missed the modifier in front of doctor. It's considered important by most people.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
Please don't eat them, look them up. Very funny.
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So what do you eat in a day exactly
Start day with coffee with a cube of butter.
Water sometimes with salt for electrolytes.
No need for breakfast as I'm not hungry until 1pm. I will vary my lunch between a grass fed steak, bacon (nitrate free of course) and eggs, smoked salmon , mince meat, and sometimes sardines.
A bone broth is also helpful.
I had steak yesterday for lunch and dinner as it has the most nutrient rich.
The funny thing is that my family is fully vegetarian so I have to prepare a vege meal before I chow down on protein.
The best part is that I don't snack. I don't eat sugar. And I no longer fart.
I just let one rip on the bus, must be nice
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
You're not big on the whole paying attention thing I see.
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You are getting a lot of negative pushback for your posts and you know what, I used to be the type of person who would agree with them. I used to think an all meat diet was absurd, dangerous, and morally irresponsible. But recently something happened to me that totally changed my mind and converted me into a carnivore believer. Suddenly, it made total sense to eat meat for every meal! What happened you might ask? Well it’s simple really, just the other day, a piano was dropped on my head.
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You are getting a lot of negative pushback for your posts and you know what, I used to be the type of person who would agree with them. I used to think an all meat diet was absurd, dangerous, and morally irresponsible. But recently something happened to me that totally changed my mind and converted me into a carnivore believer. Suddenly, it made total sense to eat meat for every meal! What happened you might ask? Well it’s simple really, just the other day, a piano was dropped on my head.
Obviously it was dropped on purpose.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
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Fuck FRANK. What do you eat to keep that rant energy up. ???keen to try it. Beef I eat comes from one local farm. It travels maybe 50km. Pork is a little different. Half the shit in the supermarket travels halfway around the world to end up in a packet for you. Animals natural habitats are killed to grow grain and vege similar to growing cattle.. There is no such thing as a vegan diet because of this. No one is perfect.
i could eat a lot better tbh. and i'm not even vegan, i eat meat occasionally and especially if it means the food my roommate cooked would go to waste. your choice to eat meat isn't my gripe. i'm also not mad if it makes you feel better, i believe that. it's still not healthy in the long run. you feel better than before, but what does before mean? did you go from a conventional healthy diet to this or was it that munched down massive amounts of junk like doritos and mt dew and thought this might be the solution? feeling better than before is always relative. and your body can get by for a while with this eating habit, but not forever.
we could never even provide a third of the human population with a diet such as this, especially organically fed. it's impossible on that scale. we will never get totally rid of using animals for work or food, this i am certain of. some of it will remain for religious and cultural reasons. so the question is how we can reduce this consumption while maintaining a good health. the fact that you only eat organic meat doesn't make you a better meat eater either. the animal is still fucking dead my guy. no way around that fact. and all this "comes from a nice farm where it was organically fed and peacefully sung to death" that doesn't matter. an animal bred and fed to be slaughtered is functionally an object turned into a consumer product and the fact it had a nice life is of no moral value, it's just qc. i still eat meat because i'm desensitized to its consumption. i literally have no moral backbone regarding this anymore, only rational thought keeps me from it, the occasional realization that it's a crime and insult towards all semi-sentient lifeforms i share this planet with.
and how is the first thing you think when you get the idea that you want to avoid processed foods to go full carnivore instead of maybe farming some veggies or fruits on your own? and how is it enjoyable to live like this, living off of (as you admitted yourself) bland meats? it's not fun. i feel especially insulted because i'm a cook. making people hungry and having them like my food is my job. if everyone was like you i'd be pennyless. you seem to hate flavor. that's ok but why advertise eating bland food? have you considered searing your meats and maybe put that salt you put in your drinking water on that steak? that way you could just drink normal water and have some electrolytes. you could also just eat a bit of salt. sorry i'm really getting hung up how you got the idea to salt your water. this is something i can't rationally understand.
lastly, the deforestations you mentioned are mainly for cattle grain and biofuel. not for veggies we eat. that only makes up a tiny part. fucking mc donalds is world famous for deforesting large swaths of rainforest for cattlegrain. soyfields are planted not to make tofu out of it, but also food for cattle. corn as food for cattle. maybe you get it now. we don't need these fields for veggies, we can already grow enough veggies. everyone can grow their own in a green house, even up north. we figured this out forever ago. the deforestations are mainly there because of the massmeatindustry. so you got that the wrong way.
Frank I love your passion mate. Don't freak out. If you read what I had to say earlier you could see that I was giving it a trial. You would also have seen that my family are vegetarian and we ate a well balanced vegetarian diet for years. My daughter is the driver of this and we all have adapted for her .I am not over weight . I don't drink or smoke but have struggled with autoimmune problems since covid . I have been diagnosed with long covid and have inflammation of the lungs called sarcoidosis, this was given to me by the jab (Another controversial subject that no one is allowed to even discuss )I have been struggling through life over the past year. Not being able to skate much or even hold down a job. No form of doctor could give me an answer or a solution. I then spoke to a friend who has had great health benefits from this diet. So here I am . I'm giving it a go. So far so good. It's not been easy because I love veges and I hate steak. But the changes after a few bumpy days have been positive.
I don't intend to do this forever as it's lots to carry all the time. I kind of regret bringing it up on slap because most people just jump on their soap box. That's the internet for you.
speak your truth. i think open dialogue makes the world better. i am veg btw but enjoy hearing others' experiences.
Amen, brother.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
When it comes to words put in an order in a sentence among other things.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
When it comes to words put in an order in a sentence among other things.
On slap hahahaha !!! You're worse than my boomer dad.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
This isn't even close to accurate unless by "forever" you mean about 200 years.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
When it comes to words put in an order in a sentence among other things.
Words mean the same wherever you type them. Maybe you should have listened to your father.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
When it comes to words put in an order in a sentence among other things.
Your talents are wasted here on slap. You should listen to me. Please stop now, you're putting me off my dinner.
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
When it comes to words put in an order in a sentence among other things.
You're welcome.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Do you mean 2000? The euros had already been fucking Aus with their livestock 200 years ago and very late as far as farming/raising livestock goes.
(I also don't think any of it is relevant to what people should or shouldn't eat in 2023)
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
(I also don't think any of it is relevant to what people should or shouldn't eat in 2023)
No, I mean exactly what I wrote. There has not been 2000 years of industrial agriculture. Europeans weren't just farming all over everywhere with ease. There's an entire field of study about this.
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I have done this and it fully cleared up my eczema. Started feeling the good effects after 3-4 weeks. Did it for 2.5 months and lost about 15-20lbs and the eczema. Also never realized I had brain fog until I did this. Was thinking clear af after a month and was like wtf. Getting back into it next week as I just made a large order of grass fed/finished meat. Let me know if you want to discuss real world results as I've been through it.
i am convinced you are all dumbass nerds who were addicted, but also allergic to doritos. then you got hairloss and was looking up male pattern baldness cures and you found the sigma male dominance life tips channel on yt. on the side you were put on the meat only thing. now you do keto without knowing, thus losing weight way(!) too rapidly, thinking wow, this is fucking sick bro! i'm getting ripped. and since you don't eat actual poison anymore, you lost your eczema, but of course, the meat healed it! it's the meat, praise the meat! it was the veggies all along.
guys let's be real here, no one goes from a healthy diet to all meats. that's like crisis mode/i gotta change shit/reinvent myself in a wacky way. it goes along with the stupid keto fad that's been going on. these are special diets for people with illnesses or athletes.
if i try this shit out and i still smoke cigarettes after two weeks i will sue tf out of every meathead in this thread, yall gave me lung cancer basically.
guys let's be real here, no one goes from a healthy diet to all meats.
I'm in my 40's and have a full head of hair and was strict vegan 3.5 years prior to this and not shit vegan junk food, all organic/non-gmo produce. The same way when I was carnivore, I ate only grass fed/finished meat. If you haven't tried it, you're talking just as much shit as you assume others are. I've done both. I like to try different ways of eating to see what works best for me. I was way healthier carnivore than I was vegan. I then went through a period of depression on a journey of self growth while working through some early trauma where I stopped eating healthy and got out of shape. Currently eating meat, raw dairy, organic fruit primarily. If I cut my raw dairy back, I'd probably be the happiest healthwise I've ever been tbh. So I will thank you for your post. It made me really contemplate why I was going back to full carnivore and I realized with where I'm at it isn't really necessary. Thank you
Also I think if you tried it for 1 month you'd probably change your mind ;)
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I have done this and it fully cleared up my eczema. Started feeling the good effects after 3-4 weeks. Did it for 2.5 months and lost about 15-20lbs and the eczema. Also never realized I had brain fog until I did this. Was thinking clear af after a month and was like wtf. Getting back into it next week as I just made a large order of grass fed/finished meat. Let me know if you want to discuss real world results as I've been through it.
i am convinced you are all dumbass nerds who were addicted, but also allergic to doritos. then you got hairloss and was looking up male pattern baldness cures and you found the sigma male dominance life tips channel on yt. on the side you were put on the meat only thing. now you do keto without knowing, thus losing weight way(!) too rapidly, thinking wow, this is fucking sick bro! i'm getting ripped. and since you don't eat actual poison anymore, you lost your eczema, but of course, the meat healed it! it's the meat, praise the meat! it was the veggies all along.
guys let's be real here, no one goes from a healthy diet to all meats. that's like crisis mode/i gotta change shit/reinvent myself in a wacky way. it goes along with the stupid keto fad that's been going on. these are special diets for people with illnesses or athletes.
if i try this shit out and i still smoke cigarettes after two weeks i will sue tf out of every meathead in this thread, yall gave me lung cancer basically.
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guys let's be real here, no one goes from a healthy diet to all meats.
I'm in my 40's and have a full head of hair and was strict vegan 3.5 years prior to this and not shit vegan junk food, all organic/non-gmo produce. The same way when I was carnivore, I ate only grass fed/finished meat. If you haven't tried it, you're talking just as much shit as you assume others are. I've done both. I like to try different ways of eating to see what works best for me. I was way healthier carnivore than I was vegan. I then went through a period of depression on a journey of self growth while working through some early trauma where I stopped eating healthy and got out of shape. Currently eating meat, raw dairy, organic fruit primarily. If I cut my raw dairy back, I'd probably be the happiest healthwise I've ever been tbh. So I will thank you for your post. It made me really contemplate why I was going back to full carnivore and I realized with where I'm at it isn't really necessary. Thank you
Also I think if you tried it for 1 month you'd probably change your mind ;)
Thanks for your post.
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Feel better frank lol. I'm not here to argue about mine or anyone else's diet. Just sharing my experience with OP. I'll keep doing my thing and you can wish the worst happens to me dude, if that's your thing. God bless.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
(I also don't think any of it is relevant to what people should or shouldn't eat in 2023)
Think we've split into two different lanes now.1 How long we've been regularly farming/eating meat and 2 at what scale/how fucked farming is
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
(I also don't think any of it is relevant to what people should or shouldn't eat in 2023)
Eating meat was relatively rare prior to the advent of industrial agriculture.
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Just ate a whole bag of beef jerky and already feel like I'm gonna shit a brick. Meat only diet sounds just awful
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
Okay, fair enough. I misinterpreted your post in a way that made me think you were saying humans got most of their diet just from foraging, which is certainly not true for any race of people that evolved in a cold climate.
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I've been a pescetarian for six months. The only thing I miss is bbq brisket. Pretty amazing how close to meat-tasting these plant-based alternatives have gotten (the "chicken" nuggets and beyond/impossible burgers).
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
Okay, fair enough. I misinterpreted your post in a way that made me think you were saying humans got most of their diet just from foraging, which is certainly not true for any race of people that evolved in a cold climate.
No, I specifically talked about polar/marginal climates. Anywhere else, including Europe, foraging was the main source of food pre-agriculture. You can forage in the winter too. All herbivore mammals that don’t hibernate do it. Maybe exceptions like herders like the Sami, but as the general rule, foraging was always a main part of the diet, and this image of a caveman-style reliance on meat is overblown for the majority of humanity.
And with agriculture, plants were probably the majority of food, even in winter (as there are lots of ways to preserve vegetables, and they usually preserve better than meat, which can spoil more easily.
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so you made it to 2016 in the Joe ROgEn archives and made a thread about i?
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so you made it to 2016 in the Joe ROgEn archives and made a thread about i?
Lol,
Why people take health advice from this guy is beyond me. He doesn’t even look very healthy.
What the carnivore diet and the vegan diet have in common is that both have more to do with identity and belief than with health. Not that you can‘t be healthy on a vegan diet, but health isn‘t usually the reason people choose it. My wife was vegan for a long time and her doctor recently told her to eat Red meat occasionally, because she‘s iron deficient. My baby, too, so I finally get to cook some meat for them!
As a German I find it weird that in most American diets carbs are vilified. Complex carbs are super good for you IMO.
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so you made it to 2016 in the Joe ROgEn archives and made a thread about i?
Why people take health advice from this guy is beyond me. He doesn’t even look very healthy.
What the carnivore diet and the vegan diet have in common is that both have more to do with identity and belief than with health. Not that you can‘t be healthy on a vegan diet, but health isn‘t usually the reason people choose it. My wife was vegan for a long time and her doctor recently told her to eat Red meat occasionally, because she‘s iron deficient. My baby, too, so I finally get to cook some meat for them!
As a German I find it weird that in most American diets carbs are vilified. Complex carbs are super good for you IMO.
I think part of the issue is that heavily processed or refined carbs are far more widespread in the US (see corn syrup being used in fucking everything). The food pyramid, which used to be used as the basis for a complete diet recommended absolutely absurd levels of carbs per day, so I think there's a lot of pushback on carbs bc of that
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so you made it to 2016 in the Joe ROgEn archives and made a thread about i?
Why people take health advice from this guy is beyond me. He doesn’t even look very healthy.
What the carnivore diet and the vegan diet have in common is that both have more to do with identity and belief than with health. Not that you can‘t be healthy on a vegan diet, but health isn‘t usually the reason people choose it. My wife was vegan for a long time and her doctor recently told her to eat Red meat occasionally, because she‘s iron deficient. My baby, too, so I finally get to cook some meat for them!
As a German I find it weird that in most American diets carbs are vilified. Complex carbs are super good for you IMO.
He turned bro science into a lifestyle brand. I can only imagine his impact on the prices of Elk meat and Brazilian Jiu-jitsu classes.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
It's only February and this is the dumbest false equivalency I'll see all year
Really ate my words on this one lol
There's a world of difference between taking zoloft and having a drinking problem
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
Okay, fair enough. I misinterpreted your post in a way that made me think you were saying humans got most of their diet just from foraging, which is certainly not true for any race of people that evolved in a cold climate.
No, I specifically talked about polar/marginal climates. Anywhere else, including Europe, foraging was the main source of food pre-agriculture. You can forage in the winter too. All herbivore mammals that don’t hibernate do it. Maybe exceptions like herders like the Sami, but as the general rule, foraging was always a main part of the diet, and this image of a caveman-style reliance on meat is overblown for the majority of humanity.
And with agriculture, plants were probably the majority of food, even in winter (as there are lots of ways to preserve vegetables, and they usually preserve better than meat, which can spoil more easily.
You believe pre-agricultural European people got enough calories to avoid starvation during winter from foraging berries and mushrooms? HMMMMM lol
To get the same amount of calories as a handful of red meat you would have to spend probably every waking moment of your day foraging and even then you would be very deficient in fat and protein.
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so you made it to 2016 in the Joe ROgEn archives and made a thread about i?
As a German I find it weird that in most American diets carbs are vilified. Complex carbs are super good for you IMO.
When I give people diet advice, the first thing I suggest is to spend a small bit of time learning how food works on your body. Understanding the difference between potatoes and pizza crust. Bananas and candy. For me it's a lot easier to avoid the shitty carbs when i realize that my body thinks it just found the jackpot source of energy, but I'm going to crash out and feel like I need a nap in an hour.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
Okay, fair enough. I misinterpreted your post in a way that made me think you were saying humans got most of their diet just from foraging, which is certainly not true for any race of people that evolved in a cold climate.
No, I specifically talked about polar/marginal climates. Anywhere else, including Europe, foraging was the main source of food pre-agriculture. You can forage in the winter too. All herbivore mammals that don’t hibernate do it. Maybe exceptions like herders like the Sami, but as the general rule, foraging was always a main part of the diet, and this image of a caveman-style reliance on meat is overblown for the majority of humanity.
And with agriculture, plants were probably the majority of food, even in winter (as there are lots of ways to preserve vegetables, and they usually preserve better than meat, which can spoil more easily.
You believe pre-agricultural European people got enough calories to avoid starvation during winter from foraging berries and mushrooms? HMMMMM lol
To get the same amount of calories as a handful of red meat you would have to spend probably every waking moment of your day foraging and even then you would be very deficient in fat and protein.
These papers represent the first time that scientists have analyzed carbon isotope data from all early human species for which significant samples exist: 175 specimens representing 11 species, ranging from 4.4 to 1.3 million years in age. The results show that prior to 3.5 million years ago, early humans ate almost exclusively C3 plants. But starting about 3.5 million years ago, early humans acquired the taste for C4/CAM plants as well, even though their environments seemed to be broadly similar to their ancestors’. The later genus Homo, including modern-day Homo sapiens, continues the trend of eating a mixture of C3 and C4/CAM plants—in fact, people who enjoy mashed potatoes with corn are practicing a 3.5 million-year-old habit.
https://www.calacademy.org/explore-science/early-human-diets#:~:text=Prior%20to%20about%203.5%20million,modern%2Dday%20gorillas%20and%20chimpanzees.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
Okay, fair enough. I misinterpreted your post in a way that made me think you were saying humans got most of their diet just from foraging, which is certainly not true for any race of people that evolved in a cold climate.
No, I specifically talked about polar/marginal climates. Anywhere else, including Europe, foraging was the main source of food pre-agriculture. You can forage in the winter too. All herbivore mammals that don’t hibernate do it. Maybe exceptions like herders like the Sami, but as the general rule, foraging was always a main part of the diet, and this image of a caveman-style reliance on meat is overblown for the majority of humanity.
And with agriculture, plants were probably the majority of food, even in winter (as there are lots of ways to preserve vegetables, and they usually preserve better than meat, which can spoil more easily.
You believe pre-agricultural European people got enough calories to avoid starvation during winter from foraging berries and mushrooms? HMMMMM lol
To get the same amount of calories as a handful of red meat you would have to spend probably every waking moment of your day foraging and even then you would be very deficient in fat and protein.
Are you just really bad at reading?
I never said they were vegan.
I just said the role of meat has been overemphasized , that the role of foraging accounted for more than most people think. I never said pre-agricultural people were vegan hippies.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
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My wife does it on and off, really helpful for her as a short term thing. I can't really add anything more to your post but good luck and I do think it is a completely natural way for humans to eat for short periods of time
Yeah it's totally natural. We hunted meat which sustained us until we hunted again. If times were lean we may have dug up some roots to chew on to survive until the next kill.
My eyes are open now to how much crap is pumped into humans through the supermarket system . It's a really bland way to eat but once you feel the benefits it outweighs your old habits.
No. Not at all, except in extreme environments lie the Arctic. Hardly any society existed like this, because the energy output to hunting (which often not successful) to the energy received by mean is so low. Our ancestors, and modern peoples who live on the land mainly foraged (led mainly by women, no less) and hunted on the side.
The only other exception i know of is coastal cultures, that are lots of fish. But even they greatly subsided on ‘gathered’ food like shellfish. The whole ‘we survived on meat’ thing is fully overblown.
You're acting like Europeans haven't been farming livestock forever, which obviously greatly reduces the amount of energy needed to obtain meat. And with that we also started breeding mammals for milk and poultry for eggs, another way that we could get animal protein into our diets with very little energy expended (compared to hunting).
Also what do you think the people of northern Europe ate during cold winters when it became almost impossible to grow vegetables because of the cold?
Read his post (the part I bolder) to see what I was replying to.
Then it might make sense why I chose to focus on HUNTING.
Okay, fair enough. I misinterpreted your post in a way that made me think you were saying humans got most of their diet just from foraging, which is certainly not true for any race of people that evolved in a cold climate.
No, I specifically talked about polar/marginal climates. Anywhere else, including Europe, foraging was the main source of food pre-agriculture. You can forage in the winter too. All herbivore mammals that don’t hibernate do it. Maybe exceptions like herders like the Sami, but as the general rule, foraging was always a main part of the diet, and this image of a caveman-style reliance on meat is overblown for the majority of humanity.
And with agriculture, plants were probably the majority of food, even in winter (as there are lots of ways to preserve vegetables, and they usually preserve better than meat, which can spoil more easily.
You believe pre-agricultural European people got enough calories to avoid starvation during winter from foraging berries and mushrooms? HMMMMM lol
To get the same amount of calories as a handful of red meat you would have to spend probably every waking moment of your day foraging and even then you would be very deficient in fat and protein.
Right, whereas killing an animal to eat is so much easier than walking around.
6am: roll out of cave
6:30am: kill a deer, cut and clean the carcass
7am: breakfast!
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humans are just fancy monkeys which is why i'm on the termite and fig diet
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humans are just fancy monkeys which is why i'm on the termite and fig diet
10/10 post, would pick the bugs off your scalp
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
Carnivore diets do not "work" in any magical way and can be quite detrimental to the health of some people.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/ulcerative-colitis/diet/foods-avoid-with-ulcerative-colitis/?utm_source=google_search_preroll&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=eh_cs_ag_138642979630&utm_content=eh_cs_cid_589075557106&gclid=CjwKCAiArY2fBhB9EiwAWqHK6ufZGJJDjpKMlQQpiSac1B-TjDFcEGq_s4-6eVpVLJgsYyDkPvr_MBoCPcEQAvD_BwE
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What I’m saying is fifty thousand years isn’t a very long period of time (and honestly you chop the last 8-10k off of that for the agricultural revolution) for the evolutionary adaptations to have been made to the degree you seem to be implying. They survived and endured, obviously, but to claim some sort of genetic heritage disposes you to that diet is shit… dense, hard, infrequent, painful shit.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
You're just making shit up at this point. And I think it's more than obvious what you're getting at with the "northern European descent" nonsense talking point.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What I’m saying is fifty thousand years isn’t a very long period of time (and honestly you chop the last 8-10k off of that for the agricultural revolution) for the evolutionary adaptations to have been made to the degree you seem to be implying. They survived and endured, obviously, but to claim some sort of genetic heritage disposes you to that diet is shit… dense, hard, infrequent, painful shit.
Why not? It's much harder to survive in a cold climate which means more evolutionary pressure. Obviously the evolutionary adaption DID happen because Europeans are far less likely to be lactose intolerant than any other race of people.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What am I getting at? Do you think I'm a racist for acknowledging my European genes are different to the genes of an Asian or African?
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Why not? It's much harder to survive in a cold climate which means more evolutionary pressure. Obviously the evolutionary adaption DID happen because Europeans are far less likely to be lactose intolerant than any other race of people.
European is not a race of people you dipshit.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What I’m saying is fifty thousand years isn’t a very long period of time (and honestly you chop the last 8-10k off of that for the agricultural revolution) for the evolutionary adaptations to have been made to the degree you seem to be implying. They survived and endured, obviously, but to claim some sort of genetic heritage disposes you to that diet is shit… dense, hard, infrequent, painful shit.
Why not? It's much harder to survive in a cold climate which means more evolutionary pressure. Obviously the evolutionary adaption DID happen because Europeans are far less likely to be lactose intolerant than any other race of people.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What am I getting at? Do you think I'm a racist for acknowledging my European genes are different to the genes of an Asian or African?
I think you’re conflating regional variations and environmental/exposure driven gut health (bacteria, enzymes, etc.) with genetic evolution. And if you’re going to own the aversion to LI (again this largely nurture not nature), own the higher rates of heart disease too.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What I’m saying is fifty thousand years isn’t a very long period of time (and honestly you chop the last 8-10k off of that for the agricultural revolution) for the evolutionary adaptations to have been made to the degree you seem to be implying. They survived and endured, obviously, but to claim some sort of genetic heritage disposes you to that diet is shit… dense, hard, infrequent, painful shit.
Why not? It's much harder to survive in a cold climate which means more evolutionary pressure. Obviously the evolutionary adaption DID happen because Europeans are far less likely to be lactose intolerant than any other race of people.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What am I getting at? Do you think I'm a racist for acknowledging my European genes are different to the genes of an Asian or African?
I think you’re conflating regional variations and environmental/exposure driven gut health (bacteria, enzymes, etc.) with genetic evolution. And if you’re going to own the aversion to LI (again this largely nurture not nature), own the higher rates of heart disease too.
Whether or not this person truly believes it, this is rooted in some weird European superior race theory that has no basis in any actual fact. Of course they can't say what they want directly, so they have to make shit up like they evolved to drink dairy and eat eggs and meat. There is no scientific evidence that supports any of the claims, of course, which becomes evidence that it's true. This is not normal behavior. It teeters on the edge of...well, it's pumped out by right wing charlatans. What more is there to say?
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What am I getting at? Do you think I'm a racist for acknowledging my European genes are different to the genes of an Asian or African?
Yeah. It's a problem you have and are going to continue to have.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What I’m saying is fifty thousand years isn’t a very long period of time (and honestly you chop the last 8-10k off of that for the agricultural revolution) for the evolutionary adaptations to have been made to the degree you seem to be implying. They survived and endured, obviously, but to claim some sort of genetic heritage disposes you to that diet is shit… dense, hard, infrequent, painful shit.
Why not? It's much harder to survive in a cold climate which means more evolutionary pressure. Obviously the evolutionary adaption DID happen because Europeans are far less likely to be lactose intolerant than any other race of people.
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Man, I feel like now more than ever especially on social media all these different "gurus" and whatnot are pushing different kinds of diets and there are so many anectodes from people claiming this or that diet changed their life. It can be overwhelming. I don't subscribe to any diet dogma, I just listen to my brain and body.
I lost 70lbs in 7 months and counting, literally from diet alone and not even going to a gym for one second. I eat grass fed ground beef, steak, dry pork ribs, butter, and all types of fruit. Recently started incorporating organic white rice and I noticed some improvements including sleeping more soundly. So I learned carbs are also my friend. I have never felt better in my life and when it comes to skating, it drastically improved not being inflamed and fat from eating like shit. I still drink plenty of coffee, but just black or I'll put some butter or ghee in it. It definitely has an antidepressant effect and keeps me alert and engaged. And yeah, my shits are perfectly smooth and healthy 2-3 times a day.
Yeah that's awesome. The weight loss thing is unreal. It's been dropping off me as my body is no longer trying to burn carbs for energy and has converted to fats. I look forward to introducing new things to my diet in the future. As for mental clarity it's better than it's ever been. 20 years of antidepressants is finally feeling like it is no longer needed.
Extremely irresponsible to suggest shit like this. Let alone the goofy all meat shit which has been proven to be a scam put forth by "alpha male" influencer types.
That's why i said suggest. It's irresponsible to suggest that eating only meat would mean you don't need anti depressants.
Lol how is that irresponsible? Diet plays a massive part in mental health. If a carnivore diet works for someone then good for them, I would bet a lot of money that you wouldn't say anything if someone was to say that going vegan cured their depression and helped them get off anti-depressants. Really cool of you to support the huge big pharma anti-depressant industry though, with the complete lack of evidence that SSRIs actually do anything it's really helpful to have guys like you around
You're really dense. I most certainly would say something if they said they didn't need their meds simply because they're on some wacky new diet. Also my partner probably wouldn't be alive today if she didn't take antidepressants. It's not something that you magically cure, but having meds has certainly helped her.
But it's not a 'wacky new diet'. The reason why carnivore diets work is because they eliminate all potential inflammatory foods. Gut health is very strongly linked to mental health, and it's hard to think of a diet that is more alien and inflammatory to a person of northern European descent than the modern American diet.
The severe depression I suffered from in my teens and early 20s was 'magically cured' by giving up gluten, or at least it coincidentally disappeared once I completely cut gluten out of my diet. I have Celiac's disease. Maybe your partner suffers from something similar and changing her diet would work for her and she could get off her meds.
If you’re going cite history, cite all of it. Human’s have been around for 2 million years, and in Northern Europe for only about 50,000 of those. And while I don’t have any problem believing that their diet was more meat heavy than some of their global contemporaries, it was undoubtedly still very omnivorous. Also keep in mind that their life expectancy was more or less half of what we enjoy today so something like the colon cancer someone today would run a very high risk of on an all/near-all meat diet wouldn’t have been of any concern.
And for the earlier arguments about the ethics and land-use ethics of producing animal vs plant calories at scale, that’s not something that should even be up for debate at this point. Absolute no-brainer.
Do what you want, but try to not kid yourself or spread bullshit to others about it.
I'm not going to 'cite all of history' because I am of completely northern European descent so that is all that is relevant to me when it comes to health and diet. My ancestors adapted to a diet where most of their calories came from meat and dairy while vegetables were very limited in the colder parts of the year and the vegetables, fruits and grains that make up the modern American diet weren't even available, ie corn, tomatoes, wheat, oranges, etc.
What am I getting at? Do you think I'm a racist for acknowledging my European genes are different to the genes of an Asian or African?
I think you’re conflating regional variations and environmental/exposure driven gut health (bacteria, enzymes, etc.) with genetic evolution. And if you’re going to own the aversion to LI (again this largely nurture not nature), own the higher rates of heart disease too.
I’m not reading this but I like the shape of the quote turd you two have produced here, keep on pushing!
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Don't think he got sick. Maybe he got sick of it. He supposedly did it to support his daughter. Who cured her I'll health with it.
Try Dr.Paul Mason or Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
He said reputable sources.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-2jLd7KxiI
Came here to post some Vegan Reich but this will do as well.
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I don't believe in extreme diets like this carnivore thing for long term use, but I do believe it could be a good elimination diet. I have a skin problem cause by yeast overgrowth, and I'm at my breaking point with it. Some stuff I read is to go with a diet like the carnivore diet to starve the yeast since they feed on sugars and carbs. Once you can get the overgrowth under control, you can then start adding stuff to your diet that won't cause the overgrowth to return. Lately I've cleaned up my diet as much as possible to see if that works, but if not, I'm going to try the carnivore thing for 3 weeks.
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If you don't eat vegetables, then how do you get ranch dressing into your mouth?
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If you don't eat vegetables, then how do you get ranch dressing into your mouth?
Ranch dressing is just what they renamed bull semen so it's technically ok for the carnivore diet (assuming they use traditional recipe)
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If you don't eat vegetables, then how do you get ranch dressing into your mouth?
Ranch dressing comes directly from the udder of the female cow. You should take a class on bovine reproduction.
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If you don't eat vegetables, then how do you get ranch dressing into your mouth?
Ranch dressing comes directly from the udder of the female cow. You should take a class on bovine reproduction.
You've been fooled by an extensive marketing campaign. Ranch hands of the old west couldn't get enough of that hot bull batter. What could be more manly?