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Ideally your truck axle width matches your board width. However there is much more variability and tweener widths in decks than trucks. So as long as the mismatch is not obscene what are you rockin, a hot rod (trucks wider than deck) or a magic carpet (deck is wider than trucks)?
I'll go: I have a 8.375" deck on 8.25" trucks for a street board and a 8.625" deck on 8.5" trucks on a park board, both being slight magic carpets. I suppose I have no real reasoning except attempting to gain stability without increasing the extra truck mass.
Your turn.
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This is a serious source of madness for me. I actually don't like when my axles match my board width. Something about being able to land perfectly primo doesn't sit well with me.
I'd always been a magic carpet guy. Back in the day when axle slip was a big problem, I wanted to keep my axles tucked inside my board. I've grown an appreciation for a reasonable hot rod with time though. I go back and forth between 139s and 144s. I'm comfortable skating 8.0 to 8.25 width decks.
I think 8.125 with 144s is a really nice combo but the magic carpet usually pulls me back in and go I with 139s on 8.25 or 8.125.
Although if I am being honest with myself, I would probably skate at my best if I just shrunk my whole setup down and went with 8.0 or even 7.875 with 139s. All my best skating was done on 7.5-8.0.
I say all this knowing my versions of magic carpet and hot rod are super tame. We're talking 1/16" or 1/8" per side.
Here's some true hot rod inspo. Alexis Ramirez on Indy 169s and an 8.5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8C6ArPoBXY
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as a huge ishod stan i thought for the longest time that magic carpet was the only way (or possibly flush)
but after continuing to experiment with my setup over the years i've found that i prefer a truck around the 8.5 range and my preferred board width is 8.38
thus.... leaving me in the slightest amount of hot rod territory
im sorry ishod, i hope you understand
Its not you, its me
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I ride more park/transition, so a bit of hotrodding for me is preferred. Feel more stable when I'm carving and slashing.
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im way too ocd to do either, mine have to be same size as my board
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No poll?
/focus
If truck size lines up with deck size it's a go. If the board is between sizes, I size down.
8.125" w/139/147"
8.25" w/144/148
8.3x" w/144/148/ML/ACE C
8.5"/8.6 w/149
etc.
Personally, I hate the way extreme hotrods or majik carpets look when filmed or shot head on. Gun to head to choose? Majik carpet for the extra bit of leverage.
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i skate 8.38 width with 8.25 trucks
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MieLnjhNxjM
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I think the wheels matter a bit too. Classics are going to let you tuck your wheels better on a hot rod. Also, how many speed rings you runnin and where?
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I think the wheels matter a bit too. Classics are going to let you tuck your wheels better on a hot rod. Also, how many speed rings you runnin and where?
Depends on the wheels and axle tbh, whatever gets deeznutz flush. No speedring nut side tho, nut does fine.
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I've always been into slight hot rod, but not quite a 1/4 of an inch - my timeline is as follows:
96' - first board 8" with 8" trucks - I was 11 with a size 7 shoe, could have gone smaller for sure
96'-99' - down to a 7.75" with my same 8" trucks, I was poor and legit skated my first set of indy's for 3 years (prob 4 decks, I remember having a new deal and a powell blank)
99'-00' - got on the 7.62" train with 7.75" trucks - thunders, and won some royals in a context - skated a lot of girls and AWS's - I learned a lot of flip tricks on this setup, I remember getting a wenning board in the first habitat drop and learned 360 flips, frontside flips, switch kickflips, and half cab kickflips in one weekend
00'-05' - got a shop sponsor and some distributor flow and landed on the setup that lasted through my best era of skating - 7.88" (almost always aws, habitat, girl, chocolate) on 8" destructos ... I know they get mad hate but at the time the mid height and crazy king pin clearance was perfect for me
became a full time touring musician around late 2005 and stopped skating as much
06'-2022' - randomly bought a board here and there and tried to skate but never got comfy - usually 8"-8.25"
2022 - 2023 - tried 8.5"s and 8.75"s, did okay on a 8.25" quasi proto for a min, but finally landed on 8.38" with 8.5" trucks, which is the same feel as my golden 7.88" with 8" trucks setup but half and inch bigger. Lots of tricks are coming back on this, I really need the slightly wider trucks to feel grounded I think. I'm 6'1" with size 11 shoes btw
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I think the wheels matter a bit too. Classics are going to let you tuck your wheels better on a hot rod. Also, how many speed rings you runnin and where?
Same. Double rings inside for me.
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Also, how many speed rings you runnin and where?
Three rings. If I'm hot rodding or trucks match the board, one speed ring inside and two outside. If I'm on magic carpet, two inside and one outside.
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DLX 8.38 with Indy 159s is a pretty sick combo shout out Peter Hewitt
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I got awefully self-conscious when a buddy of mine told me that my 8.5 axle trucks look too narrow for my 8.5 deck. Ever since I rock 8.75 axle trucks on 8.5 decks and 8.5 axles on 8.3 decks. I don't see axle nuts sticking out when I stand on my board and have more hanger to grind.
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Almost always magic carpet (or hoverboard as I prefer to call it). Sometimes even go crazy with a 9+ board with 7.6 trucks. Don't even have a reason it just feels right. Technically flips do go faster, my setups lighter and even slappys seem easier but not enough that I can do things I can't with flush board and axles
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I used to go back and fore on this. Hot rod for transition, magic carpet for street...
Then I realized I really like 8.75" trucks. The truck size is more important than the deck size to me. So I'll ride an 8.75" truck on everything from an 8.5 popsicle to a 9.25" egg...
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Running size 8 decks with 8.25 trucks. feels very solid to me and the hot rod isn't that bad since i usually run the F4 classics shape. I mainly skate ledges so I like the wider trucks and it hasn't been an issue with flip tricks.
magic carpet feels nice though for 360 flips. 8.25 on Thunder 147's did wonders for my 360 flip consistency
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This is a serious source of madness for me. I actually don't like when my axles match my board width. Something about being able to land perfectly primo doesn't sit well with me.
I'd always been a magic carpet guy. Back in the day when axle slip was a big problem, I wanted to keep my axles tucked inside my board. I've grown an appreciation for a reasonable hot rod with time though. I go back and forth between 139s and 144s. I'm comfortable skating 8.0 to 8.25 width decks.
I think 8.125 with 144s is a really nice combo but the magic carpet usually pulls me back in and go I with 139s on 8.25 or 8.125.
Although if I am being honest with myself, I would probably skate at my best if I just shrunk my whole setup down and went with 8.0 or even 7.875 with 139s. All my best skating was done on 7.5-8.0.
I say all this knowing my versions of magic carpet and hot rod are super tame. We're talking 1/16" or 1/8" per side.
Here's some true hot rod inspo. Alexis Ramirez on Indy 169s and an 8.5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8C6ArPoBXY
I think I'll try my AF-1 66s on an 8.5 since I don't have any other size truck. Hopefully I can find one lying around or trade with a homie.
I haven't tried a hot dog style board setup before but if I think I can manage, I'd probably wanna try the G096 Twin tip with af1 66's. The axles are stupid long on the aces so I guess I'd so 2 or 3 washers nutside would my choice
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Would an 8.75 on 169s be stoopid?
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Would an 8.75 on 169s be stoopid?
thats totally within reason
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Would an 8.75 on 169s be stoopid?
Anything 1/4" or so seems reasonable - I have some 151's I'll likely throw on an 8.5"
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Would an 8.75 on 169s be stoopid?
Is 1/2" beyond reason? Or is ±1/4" the most you'd wanna go as an axle to board size difference?
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Would an 8.75 on 169s be stoopid?
That’s been my preferred sizes for the last decade. 8.6-8.88 on Indy 169s. Now that 9 inch trucks are available from other brands I’ve tried Ace classic 55 and Thunder 161. A little axle pokes out but the side of the wheel is parallel to the board. It just looks and feels right to me. Currently on Thunders. Currently love them.
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skated 149s on 8.25 and loved it, and still skating 149s on 8.5 (and still love it). go figure.
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I used to ride 8 with 139s.
Then I moved to 8.125/139 or 147
I got a used board from a shop and rode 8.25 with 139s and it was nice. But then I got 149s and I’ve been running them with 8.25 and 8.38.
Hit a weird period when I rode shaped boards and got away with 169s.
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Would an 8.75 on 169s be stoopid?
Is 1/2" beyond reason? Or is ±1/4" the most you'd wanna go as an axle to board size difference?
Me personally, on a regular board that I want to do all types of tricks on, 1/4 is the biggest difference I'd want.
Really comes down to preference. Ellington and Reynolds have been known to have some pretty serious magic carpets at different points. And Alexis in the video above has no problem going the other way.
I used to ride 8 with 139s.
Then I moved to 8.125/139 or 147
I got a used board from a shop and rode 8.25 with 139s and it was nice. But then I got 149s and I’ve been running them with 8.25 and 8.38.
Hit a weird period when I rode shaped boards and got away with 169s.
This is my preferred setup.
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Magic carpet better for flips. Team 8.38/144
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as a huge ishod stan i thought for the longest time that magic carpet was the only way (or possibly flush)
but after continuing to experiment with my setup over the years i've found that i prefer a truck around the 8.5 range and my preferred board width is 8.38
thus.... leaving me in the slightest amount of hot rod territory
im sorry ishod, i hope you understand
Its not you, its me
Yeah I'm on this program. 8.38 and 149 Indy's. I got 56 conical fulls (probably 54 mm by now) and 2 washers inside 1 outside so might be a little more hotroddish with that configuration.
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as a huge ishod stan i thought for the longest time that magic carpet was the only way (or possibly flush)
but after continuing to experiment with my setup over the years i've found that i prefer a truck around the 8.5 range and my preferred board width is 8.38
thus.... leaving me in the slightest amount of hot rod territory
im sorry ishod, i hope you understand
Its not you, its me
Yeah I'm on this program. 8.38 and 149 Indy's. I got 56 conical fulls (probably 54 mm by now) and 2 washers inside 1 outside so might be a little more hotroddish with that configuration.
Ayyy! I run the same washer setup and 56mm wheels.
Classics though 99a f4
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8.25-8.38 on venture 5.8s, 2 washers on the inside of each wheel
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Magic carpet all the way. 8.25” deck with 8” axle trucks is where it’s at.
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Magic carpet all the way. 8.25” deck with 8” axle trucks is where it’s at.
while i deviate (very) often, this is the way
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My AF1 44’s with some huge 60mm Dogtown’s fit perfect on my current 8.5. If I had some “normal” sized wheels it would look too hotrod for my liking. I like 8.25”-8.38” boards when I’m not running huge wheels on the 44’s. The fit makes a lot more sense. In general, anytime I’ve ran wider trucks than board I can only do .25” wider of trucks. And the wheels have to just be a classic round shape and not wide or chunky or else they stick out way too much and I hate it. I really don’t prefer it either way. Rather have some magic carpet. And as much as I’m mainly a transition and slappy type, I just feel meh about wider trucks every time I set them up. Just too much of a big boat feeling. I like my setup to feel more nimble and snappy, wider trucks mellow things out and wheelbite seems easier.
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Currently on 148s. I fluctuate between board sizes so they’re my happy medium. Depending on what type of terrain I’m skating the most I’ll go from 8.125 (more street) up to 8.38 (more transition) so I’m kind of in the both camp. It’s more important for me to have consistency in how my trucks feel overall because It doesn’t change the way I aim at the ledge or coping depending on where and what I’m skating.
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kinda stuck with magic carpet but i dont mind
9.0+ with 8.75 axles isnt bad with a few inside washers
liked hot rodding when possible
but riding ace 66, 77, or 215 is overkill in a one setup scenario
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
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Grinding=hot rod, flipping= magic carpet
That said….there’s an argument that same board/truck is a magic carpet and 1/8th inch bigger trucks is actually perfect…..
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I was on hot rod for years but rn I have sort of magic carpet cruiser setup: 9.25 deck, Af1 55 and OJ super juice. The wheels are quite flush with the deck. Favorite setup in years.
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Flush.
I've been enjoying 8.25 boards with Indy/Thunder 149's and the wheels sit flush along the board sides.
I have experienced magic carpet and to me it felt like I'm on a mall board.
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i like hot rod more, but atm im skating 8.5 with indy 149s - so flush
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i like hot rod more, but atm im skating 8.5 with indy 149s - so flush
Flush.
I've been enjoying 8.25 boards with Indy/Thunder 149's and the wheels sit flush along the board sides.
I have experienced magic carpet and to me it felt like I'm on a mall board.
Guys can we define flush. Andre‘s set up would be hot rod in my book because the axles are wider than the bloard. Switchfakie would be same axle and bloard width. What‘s the consensus here?
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I have been riding 8 inch trucks for a lot of years and have tried it both ways. I do prefer the magic carpet but i have been on 8/7.875 decks for more than 2 years and don't think i would like to go for smaller trucks. I have grinded my axels to be flush with the nuts though :)
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8.25 on 8.5 trucks
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im running 8.25 on one of those big polar surf shapes, feels good
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“Guys can we define flush. Andre‘s set up would be hot rod in my book because the axles are wider than the bloard. Switchfakie would be same axle and bloard width. What‘s the consensus here?”
I can see the logic in qualifying the wheel as flush, but for arguments sake i would like to define the axle as flush. You do you though.
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149 is meant for 8.5" deck... etc. that is flush.
i like the way magic carpet looks way better than hot rod, i dont really give a shit about performance. hot rod probably makes more sense for if you want to win street league.
1/4" difference isnt even much at all. i encourage people to experiment with this a bit cause it really doesnt make a huge effect but enough you might decide you like it more or like the way it looks more.
i feel like true hot rods / carpet need to be at least 1/2" gap 8)
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I usually ride the standard dlx 8.25 (which is actually an 8.3) and 149 indys feel good. I don’t notice and bolt overhang.
I don’t think there’s anyone in these threads that is good enough or fine tuned enough that a 1/2 inch will ever make a difference in their skating.
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149 is meant for 8.5" deck... etc. that is flush.
i like the way magic carpet looks way better than hot rod, i dont really give a shit about performance. hot rod probably makes more sense for if you want to win street league.
1/4" difference isnt even much at all. i encourage people to experiment with this a bit cause it really doesnt make a huge effect but enough you might decide you like it more or like the way it looks more.
i feel like true hot rods / carpet need to be at least 1/2" gap 8)
I totally agree on the 0.5" theory
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Grinding=hot rod, flipping= magic carpet
That said….there’s an argument that same board/truck is a magic carpet and 1/8th inch bigger trucks is actually perfect…..
yup, track width isnt equal to axle length.
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Thunder 151 on 8.5s work well for me
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i like hot rod more, but atm im skating 8.5 with indy 149s - so flush
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Flush.
I've been enjoying 8.25 boards with Indy/Thunder 149's and the wheels sit flush along the board sides.
I have experienced magic carpet and to me it felt like I'm on a mall board.
Guys can we define flush. Andre‘s set up would be hot rod in my book because the axles are wider than the bloard. Switchfakie would be same axle and bloard width. What‘s the consensus here?
Outer wheel edge flush with board rail (nutz would stick out a hair usually).
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I don’t think there’s anyone in these threads that is good enough or fine tuned enough that a 1/2 inch will ever make a difference in their skating.
Pssshhh…who brought this guy ;D
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I’m a flusher and below.
If I see axle nuts, it reminds me of all the times the axle nuts hit me on the left inner ankle. The bone is noticeably sharpened and almost cone-like.
Even on my shaped loveseat I keep it 144 specifically so I can’t see deeznutz.
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I’ve always liked how the magic carpet comes with free switch heels and a substantial discount on nollie heels….
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I’m a flusher and below.
If I see axle nuts, it reminds me of all the times the axle nuts hit me on the left inner ankle. The bone is noticeably sharpened and almost cone-like.
Even on my shaped loveseat I keep it 144 specifically so I can’t see deeznutz.
same. also, after skating thunder 147 on a 7.75”, the axles were stripped in slipped, almost within less than 2 months. gonna assume from endless bashes to the ground, where the deck rails should’ve slammed instead.
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Flush or slightly wider than deck, but it also depends on what truck I'm skating. Independent and Venture do quite well, even on something like 8.25 with 8.75 trucks. Thunders feel like shit when the trucks get to wide for the deck.
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Standard rule: axle width = deck width
Better rule: wheel edge = deck edge
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Just set up a Polar 92 shape with Ace 55s: magic carpet in the front, hot rod in the back.
I hate it.
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i have a guy in my city riding a 8.38 with indy 169 and 58mm formula four wheels, his board looks like mad max's engine, i kinda like it but i wouldnt be able to just ollie with it, i would always wheelbite because of slightly off landing
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Just set up a Polar 92 shape with Ace 55s: magic carpet in the front, hot rod in the back.
I hate it.
^
This is my favourite post in the recent months
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Just set up a Polar 92 shape with Ace 55s: magic carpet in the front, hot rod in the back.
I hate it.
This is my favourite post in the recent months
Yeah, that which is neither magic carpet or hot rod.
I dub thee - MULLET BOARD
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im running 8.25 on one of those big polar surf shapes, feels good
Surf Jr or Surf Sr?
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im running 8.25 on one of those big polar surf shapes, feels good
Surf Jr or Surf Sr?
Surf Sr
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169's on the 10" mutant and egg shapes. pretty decent magic carpet.
i used to hotrod pretty badly riding 215's. switched back to 169's and now i gotten to a point where if i see my front wheels it throws me off.
i ditched a deck after 3 sessions cause it tapered too much at the nose poking my wheels out with the 169's. i just coulnt do it.
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Magic Carpet yo. I need to land every kick flip I try. Magic Carpet is more likely to go wheels down if primo too.
Everything is more dangerous for me when I hot rod. Especially flat bars.
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Hot Rod for me
(https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b273489279da0a91980c80facb8d)
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
With some brands, I think too that the riders are almost expected to skate whatever new product comes out, whether they are just sent that in their package, or some brands would have something in there, where they are told, setup the new product (like Indy Mids / Stage 4 trucks) and make a video with them, or something similar.
For others it might be curiosity more than anything, eg something new comes out, I gotta at least try it, just to see what all the fuss is about, then go back to what I am used to.
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
Haha,
:P
What size deck is he riding with 136/139's?
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9" deck with 8.5 trucks is such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.25" deck with 8.5 trucks is also such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.0" deck with 8.25 trucks is great as well.
There is no right answer. But I wanna say that axle width doesn't matter half as much as people think for me. All about hanger space and therefore wheel width for me. My 8.25 trucks with bones v3 have more hanger space than my 8.5 trucks with spit radials.
I've found that I feel most comfortable with a hanger space of about 140mm, which is exactly the thunder 148 with one speedring on the inside and bones v3 54mm wheels. The outside edge of the wheel doesn't really matter to me. Sure the v3 flip a bit easier, but it's not a problem with wide wheels at all. So in order to get this hanger space with radials, I need 3 speed rings on the inside I think.
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9" deck with 8.5 trucks is such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.25" deck with 8.5 trucks is also such a good feeling setup on any terrain.
8.0" deck with 8.25 trucks is great as well.
There is no right answer. But I wanna say that axle width doesn't matter half as much as people think for me. All about hanger space and therefore wheel width for me. My 8.25 trucks with bones v3 have more hanger space than my 8.5 trucks with spit radials.
I've found that I feel most comfortable with a hanger space of about 140mm, which is exactly the thunder 148 with one speedring on the inside and bones v3 54mm wheels. The outside edge of the wheel doesn't really matter to me. Sure the v3 flip a bit easier, but it's not a problem with wide wheels at all. So in order to get this hanger space with radials, I need 3 speed rings on the inside I think.
This is the way
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This question drives me mad every once in a while.
Currently riding an 8.25" deck with 144s, but as someone pointed out, having trucks that are the same width as the board actually results in a tiny bit of magic carpet. 144s are not spot on flush with an 8.25".
Pretty happy with how things are, but as I like my deck being 8.25", I think I'll try 149s next and see if there's a difference in feel.
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With some brands, I think too that the riders are almost expected to skate whatever new product comes out, whether they are just sent that in their package, or some brands would have something in there, where they are told, setup the new product (like Indy Mids / Stage 4 trucks) and make a video with them, or something similar.
For others it might be curiosity more than anything, eg something new comes out, I gotta at least try it, just to see what all the fuss is about, then go back to what I am used to.
Definitely. I think Reynolds falls into the latter category.
He's also a dream pro to sponsor given he's so good at promoting product without it coming across as pushy or weird. I doubt he needs to be encouraged to promote things. He just seems hyped on everything he rides and makes it look cool.
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Back to the hot rod/magic carpet thing. I think the degree to which you hot rod and magic carpet is affected not just by the absolute difference between truck and board width, but the relative difference as well. A 1/2" difference on an 8" board is going to feel way crazier than a 1/2" on an 8.5" board.
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Tried a lot of different setups, wheel sizes, and decks, and there's a huge difference between hot rods and magic carpets
Started skating street 13 years ago with a magic carpet ride, independents 129, 8" decks and 52mm wheels, clearly is a tech oriented setup where the board flips really easy, board really stuck in your feet after popping. grinds very easy and pop out feels light and somewhat right, but i find really unstable at high speeds and transition feels weird. It feels nice on parks and nice streets/ledges
Nowadays, i ride big transitions and street, 8.5 bbs wood, 55 aces and 56 bones. Hot rods feel insanely right anywhere, especially big transitions and landing airs, Huge trucks make the board stable at high speeds and rough landings plus a smaller deck gives a really lightweight feel to it. Street wise, feels really good having big trucks, board still flicks right and you can grind thought anything.
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
Is useless to try to keep up with Reynolds setups, the man changes them like we change socks
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
I mean, I haven’t been paying attention for quite awhile, but…he sorta changes it. THE Reynolds setup people tend to reference, is from like 10-12 years ago. Since then he did the 144 vs 139 thing, and seems to generally skate 139s, with 8.125-8.25. Not too wild
Probably a post for a different thread, but some pros really do switch up the trucks: peacock, puig, Tyler Bledsoe…those are some changes
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J got a new 8.5 I’m running on my 44 aces usually ride 8.2 deck but I don’t even really notice a difference tbh
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I think I mentioned this is another thread, bits I’m running an 8.625 (PS) GX1000 deck with Indy stage 4 166s 58mm con fulls and the wheels sit flush with the edge of the deck. Perfection. Truck sizes leave so much up to experimentation and tinkering, part of the joy for me.
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When in doubt consult The Boss- 139's on up to 8.5.
Think of it this way- it's easier to add washers than make a truck narrower. If you're like me and like a weirdo in between size like 8.38 get the size closest to the decks you might otherwise ride.
Boss rides 144 now. But yeah, he was actually still on 129s when he was skating 8"+ decks.
So if we're to go by him, a little Aladdin action is ok, but no more than a quarter inch or so if you wanna get with Princess Jasmine.
He's back on 139.
He was going back and forth between 144 and 139 a while ago but was skating on Stage 4 136 (8") quite a bit recently. In his most recent IG post someone asked if he skates 139 and he said yes. Looks like he's back on Stage 11 as well.
I feel guilty for being genuinely interested in this.
I am a shameless kook about shit like this. I love pro setup videos, I scan comments on instagram for tidbits, I zoom in on video to see what they're riding...
Monthly?
Hot rod - Flush - Magic Carpet, in that order of preference
8.38 / 8.5 - 5.8 trucks with 3 washers on the inside of each axle
8.25 - 5.6 trucks with 3 washers on the inside of each axle
My ledge / rail game far exceeds my flip game, I'm all about focusing on my strengths and not working against my weaknesses.
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Back in my day 90% of people magic carpet/hoverboard
So that
But a good 8.1-8.2 with some standard solid 144/148 is real nice like. Very responsive and just slightly heavy but not to the point you go old guy and stick to no pop skating
You know what I think ima go setup that setup now. Damn it guys!
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Been on 149's for like 20 years, used to run 8.5 decks now I use 8.25 decks. I think if you're within .25" either way it's fine. Some people run super magic carpety boards, Reynolds, herman, Leo Romero, I think Ellington, a lot of those dudes skate 8.25-8.5 decks on 139's. Leo used to skate like, an 8" deck with 129's and people have him shit for it hahah so now I think he has 139's
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Been on 149's for like 20 years, used to run 8.5 decks now I use 8.25 decks. I think if you're within .25" either way it's fine. Some people run super magic carpety boards, Reynolds, herman, Leo Romero, I think Ellington, a lot of those dudes skate 8.25-8.5 decks on 139's. Leo used to skate like, an 8" deck with 129's and people have him shit for it hahah so now I think he has 139's
So sad, he was ripping on that setup. He had 129 lows and popped so proper with such finesse, then he went to 139 maybe 144 standards and I can see in that footage his pop wasn’t as solid, it was more like up and over let me get on the rail and out, it doesn’t have that good pop and lock into grind like before
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Been on 149's for like 20 years, used to run 8.5 decks now I use 8.25 decks. I think if you're within .25" either way it's fine. Some people run super magic carpety boards, Reynolds, herman, Leo Romero, I think Ellington, a lot of those dudes skate 8.25-8.5 decks on 139's. Leo used to skate like, an 8" deck with 129's and people have him shit for it hahah so now I think he has 139's
So sad, he was ripping on that setup. He had 129 lows and popped so proper with such finesse, then he went to 139 maybe 144 standards and I can see in that footage his pop wasn’t as solid, it was more like up and over let me get on the rail and out, it doesn’t have that good pop and lock into grind like before
Here’s a wild one, on my part, that’s kooky: Joslin looked better on venture lo’s.
I’ve definitely had setups that I skated better, but didn’t ride, because I felt awkward with the look. And that’s a part of how I’ve really handicapped my skating over the last 10-15 years; as I’ve gotten older, weaker/more broken, and able to skate less often, I’ve simultaneously attempted to to skate shit that younger cool people skate, like big ass boards, wide trucks, and big wheels. And it’s still fun, and I can land some basic flatground, and sometimes the whole thing feels decent for a time, but…
As an example, I bought a board after not skating for awhile, this is now almost 10 years ago. I’d really messed up my front foot/ankle/lower leg, and just didn’t skate for too long. Bought an anti-hero green eagle, the little one, venture 5.0 HI’s, and like 54s. Go skate and land all of my dumbass not good flatground stuff. But the setup looked soooo weird, and everyone was skating 8.25 on 149s, and I uh…felt weird.
I’ve never been good at keeping it real.
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Thunder 151 on 8.5s work well for me
This is my jam! Love this setup. Every one in awhile I’ll throw on some tricks that sit flush, but then I immediately go back. I don’t like the way that feels. 1/4” wider trucks are my happy place.
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Reviving this bc I'm about to slap some heavily fucked with Venture Hi 6.1's on an 8.5 and cross into hot rod territory.
Really curious to see how it affects my learning curve with certain flip tricks. I do want to nollie heel very badly... but these loose converted Ventures feel really sick on transition and pushing fast down the street (turns quick but stabilizes quicker). I'm a big sucker for that feeling.
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Reviving this bc I'm about to slap some heavily fucked with Venture Hi 6.1's on an 8.5 and cross into hot rod territory.
Really curious to see how it affects my learning curve with certain flip tricks. I do want to nollie heel very badly... but these loose converted Ventures feel really sick on transition and pushing fast down the street (turns quick but stabilizes quicker). I'm a big sucker for that feeling.
straight flip tricks don’t bother me on hot rod setups, or setups that are ‘too wide’. you can always hit it harder.
the big big setups mess with me on rotational stuff, and learning ‘new’ tricks.
otherwise the stability is nice
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Thunder 151 on 8.5s work well for me
This is my jam! Love this setup. Every one in awhile I’ll throw on some tricks that sit flush, but then I immediately go back. I don’t like the way that feels. 1/4” wider trucks are my happy place.
8.75" trucks on 8.5" decks is the 8.25" with 149s scaled up, that's why it works so well; Wheels flush!
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I’m on team Hotrod. I skate an 8.38 and currently on Indy Stage 4 151’s. I love it.
Before Indy made 144’s, you either could skate 139’s or 149’s. I moved up from an 8.0 to an 8.25 and chose to skate 149’s.
I tried going down to 144’s on an 8.38. Didn’t like it.
I find the Hotrod set-up gives me more stability and things just work better.
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Indy 159s on a Girl G053 8.5 deck with 55m Spitfire Lock-In Fulls and Swiss Six. Plus some hard bushings. This setup is fast and stable as fuck. Supports my 245lbs nicely 🤤
It’s a hot rod technically, but the wheels don’t stick out to a noticeable degree.